| whaack: | diana_coman: EOD Report: I did 4h of saltmines + the trip to Santa Cruz + wrote my article. the lost 4h on saltmines and no dedicated Spanish time are b.c. of going a little over time with my article and b.c. i was awake for fewer hours today | [00:49] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: well, spill over is spill over, yes. | [04:38] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: a previous report was a major overstatement - i have ~40,000 channels from ~200 networks rather than [700,000 channels from ~500 networks][http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-28-Dec-2019#1014202] | [10:10] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-28 02:17:11 whaack: just under 700,000 channels right now. I am missing channels from roughly 100 networks. They mostly offline, but some have a few rules that are messing up my script, such as "you must be connected for 60s before grabbing the channel list" | [10:10] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: lolz, quite the difference there; how come? and are there in the end ~500 networks and you're missing ~300 or are there simply ~200 total or what? | [11:14] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: there are 597 listed networks on netsplit.de, but some of them appear dead (i can't connect via the advertised hostname/port) | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: btw this is NOT programming ffs, it's monkeying at the keyboard, ugh. | [11:18] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: did you even spot-check those to see if it's perhaps just your bot(s)? | [11:20] |
| diana_coman: | it seems rather too large a chunk to be just bogus although it's not impossible nowadays either. | [11:21] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: i got the 500 networks-with-channels number because i ran an improper reduce on my list of networks. atm now i have nfi how i got the 700,000 channel total | [11:21] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [11:22] |
| diana_coman: | well, at least it's funny. | [11:22] |
| whaack: | i think i did something like pipe it to wc and counted the words instead of the lines | [11:22] |
| whaack: | yup, that's what i did | [11:24] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: no i didn't spot check the networks where I received USOCKET errors | [11:26] |
| diana_coman: | it's just too many to leave it at that; one way or another it needs looked into; can still wait since there's a whole lot otherwise to get started on those you could connect to, but you can't say "they don't exist, netsplit.de is wrong" just on what you have so far; leave them for now in "??? category" perhaps, for laters. | [11:27] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: yes, I plan to investigate all the networks I was unable to connect to. | [11:30] |
| diana_coman: | all right; but it can wait. | [11:31] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: I think right now I need to design the pipeline that connects channel-snagger and fleetbot. So fleetbot can use what is available atm and begin logging, and then when new networks and channels appear it will start logging those as well | [11:31] |
| diana_coman: | sounds sensible, yes. | [11:31] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: For the issue regarding connecting enough bots to the bigger networks, it will take more time to build this - but I am willing to get enough ips and route through them. | [11:34] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: The work for that would be to setup ~10-20 proxy servers, and then find out how to set CL to route through different proxy servers on a per-thread basis. | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: that can also wait though; first make at the very least a "test run" that fully works and you know what's going on in there. | [11:41] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: also re "silence", do notice that it might be due to the holidays time to some extent; it is New Year's Eve, after all. | [11:42] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: of course, two networks were in Bulgaria and it was late at night for the majority of the time i was connected | [11:43] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: does the bot log the join/parts too? | [11:44] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: no, would you like it to? | [11:44] |
| diana_coman: | I'd rather it did; ideally marked as a different category (so you can filter them out/in later, at analysis time) | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | but it can give I suppose an idea of just how much of the whole imagined "activity" is nothing more than ...automated processes basically. | [11:46] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: okay. i will look into adding it | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | cool. | [11:48] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: as for doing the "test run", should I connect a fleet to say ~50 or so small networks where I don't run into the max-connections-per-host problem? | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: yes; and monitor it's run for at least several days/ a week, it's basically a first chance to get some idea of the practical issues; atm it's even unclear how much data you'll get for instance (and I expect that's anyway going to end up on some power law basically but still); test run indeed. | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | its* ; ugh. | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: do select your sources better, really; that "definition" of codependency is worse than useless really; the first part is microsoft-style and the 2nd part reads more like a confusion than a definition; the core of it is the enabling of one's faults (hence the previous clue re don't use tmsr as a crutch) | [13:10] |
| diana_coman: | also, you glossed over/chose only some parts to answer to in that comment, lol. | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | will bbl | [13:14] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: okay i'll reread and comment addressing the points i missed. i had already waited 2 days to respond and i wanted to get _some_ response in. | [13:28] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: why the delay anyway? | [14:56] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: i thought writing a reply would take a while | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | you can always ack the point(s) otherwise and note you'll need to think it some more or something but even better maybe discuss it instead of just spinning around it. | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: heh; did it take then more than alloted and so you cut out parts or how does this even work? | [14:58] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: i just addressed the points I saw most important to respond to and eventually decided i had spent enough time and hit the comment button | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | basically "the rest is not worth my time" then? | [15:01] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: arg no i don't think that even if my actions say it | [15:02] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: but spinning on it is not worth my time, and i'm worried that i'll lose hours doing that | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | heh, good; but yeah, that's what they say and why I said you should have at least explicitly stated that you need more time to consider the other points. | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: so...don't; hence - discuss/ask/talk, do NOT spin. | [15:05] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: alright i will get back to that comment thread later today after some saltmines. writing the article and reading the comments helped me quite a bit. the most important discovery was from mp calling out the b.s. 'worthy-because-worthless' reasoning that was underlying my "his strategy to stay safely seated on his throne and keep the council well indoctrinated" | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: ok; possibly "next year" even, no hurry. | [15:13] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: erm i need to clarify that is a light new years reference and not stinging sarcasm lol | [15:17] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: ^ that is a malformed q : you are saying that it's okay if I get to it tomorrow, correct? | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: ahaha; yes, it's okay if you get to it tomorrow, no worries. | [15:26] |
| dorion_road: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-30-Dec-2019#1014287 - I wasn't using the <, but I changed those << for << and that indeed solved it, thank you! | [16:03] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-30 04:53:15 diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-29-Dec-2019#1014265 - possibly it gets confused by those < < that remained as such, try making them < since you do that for the rest anyway, right? | [16:03] |
| dorion_road: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-30-Dec-2019#1014289 - yeah, I let myself get caught in, "this should be so simple, wtf am I overlooking ?" | [16:05] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-30 04:57:24 diana_coman: dorion_road: also, don't bang head alone for that long - come in here and someone will bang your head for you if needed - or otherwise help you out way faster, you know? | [16:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | diana_coman: While I'm doing DNS things, did you have the minigame.biz restored anywhere? | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | BingoBoingo: sadly no; it's only logs.minigame.biz that lobbes handles and so it's up. | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | dorion_road: aren't those/the other < normally handled by jfw's script? ie did you just find a bug in jfw's script in fact? | [16:25] |
| dorion_road: | diana_coman I didn't use his logotron2wp script there, but won't neglect to use it moving forward. | [16:45] |
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