#ossasepia Logs for 21 Jan 2020



April 21st, 2020 by Diana Coman
whaack: jfw: Hm yeah, I don't plan to switch languages mid project. That said maybe I'll try using your client when I setup my new comp [00:39]
whaack: diana_coman: EOD Report: I went overtime on the Panama article / computer planning so I did not make too much distance with TheFleet (I created an outline for a plan article.) I did about 30 minutes of reading and no Spanish. The computer planning article will be published early tomorrow, it just needs a final review. Then after I publish the compl plan article I'm going to get right ahead to using it and build the machine. [00:42]
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auctionbot: S#1078 O=17mn LB=18mn E=2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 (184h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [03:29]
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diana_coman: whaack: re computer sounds fine. [04:15]
auctionbot: S#1077 O=17mn LB=None E=2020-01-29 05:43:03.567830 (179h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [08:29]
auctionbot: S#1078 O=17mn LB=18mn E=2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 (179h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [08:29]
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whaack: dorion: reading your article w/ all its double rainbows, cigars and suits on the beach, exotic drinks, and surfing was a nice way to start my day [12:15]
whaack: and btw, i think i'm going to visit Panama again in 3 months for my next visa run. there are some flights from Liberia (shaves a cool 6-10hrs off the trip each way) I can get if I don't buy the tickets last minute [12:32]
dorion: whaack cheers x 2! [12:33]
dorion: whaack i did have fun writing the article, so glad you enjoyed reading. [12:49]
auctionbot: S#1077 O=17mn LB=None E=2020-01-29 05:43:03.567830 (174h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [13:29]
auctionbot: S#1078 O=17mn LB=18mn E=2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 (174h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [13:29]
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whaack: so it looks like i was mistaken in thinking i need an auxillary power cable for the PCIe slot graphics card. Am I correct in thinking that it's possible the 8 pin 'CPU' power supplies power to the PCIe slot as well? [15:54]
diana_coman: dorion: quite the whirlwind of fun in hawaii by the sounds of it, good for you! [16:00]
diana_coman: whaack: why don't you check the spec for your components, it should say exactly, no? [16:02]
whaack: is checking [16:05]
whaack: yes it must, because there is no listed connector for the PCIe auxiliary cable [16:07]
dorion: diana_coman yeah, now back to the whirlwind of fun here :) [16:08]
diana_coman: ahaha, the whirlwind-you is welcome of course but otherwise here things be of the boring type! [16:15]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-19 17:46:29 diana_coman: jfw: glad to know it! only boring stuff around here really, testing, going to sleep when tired, speaking up when needing to communicate, seriously, boring. [16:15]
diana_coman: fwiw that part with the "1 week sleep deprivation" terrible exercise got me laughing the most [16:16]
billymg: whaack: i think they are different cables/connectors, though both are 8-pin and look very similar. i would research a bit more what's coming out of your PSU before attempting to connect it to the PCIe card [16:16]
billymg: it's been a while since i've messed with any heavy duty video cards though, my most recent FX build has a dinky GPU that's powered only by the slot itself [16:17]
whaack: billymg: ^ right, my q was whether or not the GPU was powered by the slot itself, and that is the case [16:18]
billymg: ah ok [16:18]
diana_coman: whaack: your question was not that clear as you just stated above though, ugh. [16:18]
whaack: diana_coman: I didn't format the question as "can the GPU be powered by the slot itself"? Because I thought that on other motherboards the auxillary PCIe power cable plugged into the motherboard and thus the GPU still would get its power through the PCIe slot. [16:21]
diana_coman: iirc at least some higher end GPUs might need the auxiliary PCIe cable as they basically don't get enough power just through the slot [16:22]
whaack: i see, so the cable would plug directly into the GPU [16:22]
BingoBoingo: whaack: From what I understand if the GPU needs it. Usually there will be a place to plug a cable. Otherwise many GPUs can get all the power they find useful from the slot. [16:57]
whaack: successfully made it to the bios. CPU Freq: 4k MHz, Mem Frequency : 1.6kMHz, Mem Size: 16,384MB, CPU Temp: 40-50 C, both hard drives detected [17:10]
BingoBoingo: Congrats [17:24]
auctionbot: S#1077 O=17mn LB=None E=2020-01-29 05:43:03.567830 (169h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [18:29]
auctionbot: S#1078 O=17mn LB=18mn E=2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 (169h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [18:29]
auctionbot: --- end of auction list, 18mn total bids --- [18:29]
whaack: BingoBoing: thx! [18:39]
whaack: BingoBoingo* [18:39]
whaack: installing centos6 with sha256sum = 422af57b493b8af49d485885a730c5a1d955f803fac85aa51311c393168b9080 atm [18:40]
jfw: whaack: from the remote hash table of I take it this is CentOS-6.9-x86_64-minimal.iso [18:46]
whaack: yes [18:46]
whaack: jfw: hm, i am prompted the q what type of media contains the installation image. my options are: "Local cd/dvd, hard drive, nfs directory, URL" I am installing off a usb, not quite sure what to pick. [18:51]
whaack: (looks like hard drive was the right choice) [18:55]
jfw: woulda been one of the first two for sure. [19:03]
whaack: yeah my guess was local cd/dvd, but that was wrong [19:04]
whaack: weird, the install failed, and now it wont let me boot from the usb again [19:12]
whaack: (error was "an error was encountered while formatting device / format failed: 1") [19:13]
whaack: now i have the option to boot from the SSD from the failed install, but it just takes me to a blinking cursor screen [19:21]
jfw: hah, did you fdisk the usb drive instead of the ssd like everyone seems to do these days? [19:22]
jfw: ( http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-12-Jan-2020#1014943 ) [19:23]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-12 12:57:16 dorion: lobbes thanks for the updates, glad you're making progress. one point I'll alert you on is when you get to partitioning the disk with the installer, double check which /dev/sdX is the install media and which is the internal, target disk. [19:23]
whaack: jfw: lol i think i set those right...but looks like maybe not [19:24]
jfw: strange error though, why would something be trying to format a device while booting [19:26]
jfw: oh possibly I misread and that was from when the install failed; in that case got any more detail on "wont let me boot from the usb"? [19:28]
jfw: but yeah first suggestion is to sanity-check the usb from other machine, rewrite the .iso if needed [19:29]
whaack: jfw: so when I first booted from the usb all I did was plug in the USB and turn on the machine, and it took me right to the centos6 installer [19:29]
whaack: now it takes me to a blinking cursor page. I did sanity-check the usb and rewrote the .iso, but i'm getting the same problem [19:30]
jfw: ah so you had it too easy the first time :) Found how to get to the BIOS boot menu? [19:30]
whaack: i will triple-sanity check rn though, because a botched usb is the only thing that makes sense [19:31]
whaack: jfw: yes I can get to the BIOS boot menu, but within there i have no option to select the usb [19:31]
jfw: dare I ask, is there UEFI involved here? [19:31]
whaack: There's Boot Mode Selection, with three options, "UEFI and Legacy" "Legacy Only" "UEFI Only" . right now "UEFI and Legacy" are selected [19:33]
jfw: oof, so 10x the potential problems then. IIRC (possibly from spyked's research) there's no clearly established meaning to any of those choices. I'd expect "legacy only" would be most promising [19:35]
whaack: derp, my problem may have been a mechanical error. i have one of those shit usbs that can hide their head like a turtle. so i may have retracted the head when i thought i plugged it in [19:38]
whaack: alright here we go round 2, this time running "install or update an existing system" instead of the "install system with video driver" option [19:40]
whaack: hm. now i'm given 4 options for the q: 'what partition and directory on that partition holds the installation image for centos?: /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdc1' [19:42]
whaack: i'm pretty sure its sdc1, i guessed that and was taken to the centos install screen [19:43]
jfw: the unstated question is "how would I check on that"? [19:43]
whaack: maybe if i unplugged and replugged the usb one option would disappear/reappear [19:44]
jfw: get a shell on another TTY, run fdisk -l /dev/sdX, check the size/partition layout, usually that's enough to figure it out [19:44]
jfw: I would not recommend replugging, not sure if the root FS is mounted from it or what. [19:45]
jfw: dmesg is your friend too [19:47]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-12 13:57:45 dorion: lobbes cool, dmesg is a good friend to have :) [19:47]
whaack: i'm not sure exactly what you meant by get a shell on another tty. are you saying there's a way i could connect to my machine from another computer? [19:48]
whaack: dang, same error [19:49]
jfw: whaack: https://www.linux.org/threads/virtual-terminals.4135/ [19:49]
whaack: hm but that requires me to already have linux installed, i am not there yet. anyways, it seems my problem was i was trying to install on both my ssd and hdd. [19:53]
jfw: the installer itself is linux, what [19:54]
jfw: did you intend to install on both? should certainly be possible, like / on ssd and /home on hdd or something [19:56]
whaack: ah yeah for some reason i had in my head i was locked into the installer sequence. alright i finished the install but i will try to run the installer again and switch to a shell on another tty [19:57]
whaack: jfw: hm i can't get into a terminal with alt-f2 or any other alt function combination [19:59]
jfw: the ctrl-alt-fN, possibly the single biggest distinction between Linux and Windows in regards to whether human controls machine or vice versa. [19:59]
jfw: if it's a GUI installer, might need to add the ctrl. [19:59]
whaack: had to click num lock [20:00]
whaack: the other terminals though don't allow any input [20:00]
jfw: no login prompts? possibly centos installer is dumb like that then. [20:00]
whaack: i just have a blinking cursor [20:00]
whaack: anyways, i got centos6 installed on my ssd and arrived at a terminal. now i have to figure out how to connect to the network + start installing drivers, but all that is for tomorrow/later this week. [20:12]
jfw: cool. The 'minimal' install is indeed quite minimal if I recall - might not even have man pages and syslog for example. You'll have some yum installing to do. [20:14]
whaack: yup, no man pages [20:18]
auctionbot: S#1077 O=17mn LB=None E=2020-01-29 05:43:03.567830 (165h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from U.S. (Server-A) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [22:29]
auctionbot: S#1078 O=17mn LB=18mn E=2020-01-29 05:43:42.679910 (165h28) >>> Dell R610 PE Server ships from Uruguay (Server-B) http://blog.mod6.net/2020/01/physical-specifications-for-the-bitcoin-foundations-servers/ [22:29]
auctionbot: --- end of auction list, 18mn total bids --- [22:29]

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