#ossasepia Logs for 23 Sep 2019



April 20th, 2020 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-22-Sep-2019#1003484 - no, this is perhaps "what whaack thinks" but most certainly not what everyone thinks. [03:59]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 19:44:32 whaack: ssage one thinks: "well..thimbronion agrees to what? since he doesn't specify, this is a blank agreement to anything, which is worthless, and thus should be ignored" so the only damage done is the key signing "I agree" looks quite silly [03:59]
diana_coman: there are several layers to it but even at the most superficial level it's proof of such misunderstanding of gpg-contracts and the WoT that he's basically out of it entirely. [04:04]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-22-Sep-2019#1003486 - it's a clearer account of what you did so far at least; the task list works more as "what I already know/am aware of" with not much to show re actually looking around; overall it sort of scrapes by for now. [04:10]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 20:15:36 whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1001998 <<>> http://ztkfg.com/2019/09/past-tmsr-work-potential-future-tmsr-work/ [04:10]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:13:17 diana_coman: whaack: maybe make a summary with any tmsr-related things that you did so far and otherwise any tmsr parts/items you find interesting [04:10]
diana_coman: whaack: now that's done, there's http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-14-Sep-2019#1002518 that is still pending afaik [04:11]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 09:08:16 diana_coman: have a look around, ask any questions you need to ask and if/when you decide you want to submit to training here, say so. [04:11]
diana_coman: welcome billymg ; what brings you here? [04:13]
diana_coman: for log readers, billymg followed from http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937645 [04:14]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 21:50:52 billymg: anyway, ima swing by diana_coman's castle since there seems to be a cr convoy thread building over there [04:14]
diana_coman: shrysr: what happened there with week 10 review as it was initially on a different date and getting messed up; seems fixed meanwhile but what was it [06:11]
diana_coman: shrysr: also, it's getting hard to follow the numbers by themselves, please add from now on the dates ie "Plan for week 12: 30/9 - 29/9" or similar [06:13]
diana_coman: shrysr: mind running your script on lobbes's logs too ie comparing the #o logs from logs.ossasepia.com to those on logs.ericbenevides.com ? [06:14]
diana_coman: lobbes: you are doing quite well there from what I see with planning and sticking to it on the mp-wp work but at any rate - would you find it useful to have also a more general plan+review for yourself on younghands.club? ie going beyond just this one mp-wp current task; maybe for 2 weeks/1 month stretches at a time? [06:20]
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whaack: diana_coman: Yes the post was laying out in words my tmsr interests that were already in brain-ram, it was not the product of additional research done in the last week. [10:00]
whaack: diana_coman: I am strongly inclined to say yes I would like to submit to training should I be honored for you to take me. My reservation however is that I first want to be sure I fully understand what commitment it takes to submit. However, the reservation seems silly since if I understand http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/18/the-pageboys-pledge/ correctly I would naturally be "submitting to the judgement of how much judgment I su [10:15]
whaack: bmit to" [10:15]
whaack: Let me know if the above makes no sense, it is a point of confusion in my own head so i'm not sure it presents itself clearly. [10:18]
diana_coman: whaack: it does; and yes, you can't know upfront what you don't know, that's the inevitable issue facing everyone really; hence my "ask any questions you need to ask" - this means literally ask what you need to figure out if you trust me, because you will have to decide on precisely trust, nothing else. [10:22]
diana_coman: jfw: probably the above is of interest to you too. [10:23]
diana_coman: you can't have certainty of the sort "she'll ask me to do this and that, not the other" nor of the sort "it'll all be about x and y and z but not t; requiring q and y but not w"; simply because it can't be known upfront, no. [10:26]
diana_coman: another way of putting it is this: decide if you are better off on your own / under someone else or if you are better off throwing your lot in with mine because that's pretty much what it amounts to. [10:28]
billymg: diana_coman: whaack and i traded a few messages about our escape plans and he mentioned there was some discussion in here so i figured as he and i execute these plans any related discussion could occur here, in the event some bits are useful to others [10:33]
diana_coman: billymg: sure; feel free to ask/read around /figure out if there's anything else of interest. [10:34]
billymg: diana_coman: sounds good, will do [10:34]
whaack: diana_coman: (i interpret "it does" as "it does make sense" from the context) okay. well i feel more comfortable knowing that you understand that issue clearly. my intuition is that i do trust you, from reading the logs/your key's reputation. Already from asking advice in here i have been guided to set myself with a better living situation for an entire year. [10:38]
diana_coman: whaack: well, look at what is missing, if anything/unsure; (and yes, it was "it does make sense") [10:40]
whaack: diana_coman: tbh i don't have any pressing questions, but i don't want you to lose trust in me for not demonstrating scrutiny in choosing to work under you. i know myself to get excited at seemingly good opportunities and i just try to search for justifications to pull the trigger [10:42]
diana_coman: whaack: the danger is more from the other end really ie if you say yes and then don't stick with it/vanish /fade away or something; because in that case I will negrate you guaranteed. [10:43]
whaack: that is also a concern of mine. but i think i need the threat of that axe to move forward lest i do the perpetual "thumb twiddling" [10:44]
diana_coman: aha, that sounds quite likely to be the case, yes. [10:48]
whaack: on a practical note - i am going to Japan for 2 weeks starting this Thursday on a vacation with a meatwot friend that has been planned months prior. after that i move to CR - and then I have my spot/time where with i can say with confidence that i will be in a situation where i can commit to training and work for the republic [10:48]
diana_coman: whaack: feel free to take the time off to think it through (but do use it for that rather than for postponing); other than that though, note that commitment doesn't mean "won't take vacations anymore" for sure, lolz; and at any rate: do blog your Japan trip! [10:50]
whaack: diana_coman: Japan certainly will be blogged! Well I do feel already decided; I don't feel the need to think it over in Japan - I would rather just have guidance on how to make best use of that trip. The only doubt I would have would be that perhaps asciilifeform or another lord is looking for someone and i would be better off serving them... but it seems you are the lord interested in training with younghands et all and woul [11:01]
whaack: d xfer me if that were the best option. [11:01]
diana_coman: whaack: so ask them directly, why not ask? fwiw yes, I would send you to someone else if I think it's a better fit but I don't know if "transfer" is the word for it; for one thing, you're not a package to just transfer; for the other, you can't and shouldn't eschew choice; see http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/08/fog-of-war/#comment-43 [11:07]
diana_coman: and going at it with lingering doubts is not helping at all either; because at first hurdle, the natural impulse will forever be "oh, but it would have been better if/with"; kill those doubts one way or another now and if you commit do it fully or it will backfire. [11:10]
whaack: makes sense. a "transfer" then would need to happen today rather than tomorrow. [11:16]
diana_coman: whaack: it's certainly way easier today for everyone involved, precisely because things are quite straightforward: if you want to work with X, go and ask them what would it take for them to take you in; and just in case you have doubts re this point: nobody will mind. [11:21]
whaack: diana_coman: well then, what is required for you? [11:22]
whaack: brb ~10 minsx01 [11:25]
diana_coman: your full commitment as detailed in http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/18/the-pageboys-pledge/ and a reasonable fit (on which I'll judge after I probe to get to figure you out a bit better - there are already examples of this in the logs). [11:27]
shrysr: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-23-Sep-2019#1003516 << I just checked the formatting and it looks okay? It looked a little weird on my phone, but the computer shows it right... I needed to make a correction to it which was found after posting. [11:46]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 06:11:05 diana_coman: shrysr: what happened there with week 10 review as it was initially on a different date and getting messed up; seems fixed meanwhile but what was it [11:46]
shrysr: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-23-Sep-2019#1003517 << Okay. [11:47]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 06:13:04 diana_coman: shrysr: also, it's getting hard to follow the numbers by themselves, please add from now on the dates ie "Plan for week 12: 30/9 - 29/9" or similar [11:47]
diana_coman: shrysr: it wasn't just formatting; the first I looked at it, it was dated 16th (and as a result it didn't even appear in recent posts); probably at correction time the rest got fixed too and you didn't even notice; not a big thing in itself, just check when publishing, in the future. [11:48]
whaack: diana_coman: okay. i can dig through the logs to find the examples later but if you have a link handy that would help [11:58]
diana_coman: whaack: I meant examples of what probing tends to look like; see the conversation yest with thimbronion for instance); obv, can't tell upfront exactly what it will look like for you, lol. [11:59]
whaack: lol k [12:00]
diana_coman: whaack: what date is that for finally moved to CR and ready to get started? [12:02]
whaack: diana_coman: i do not yet have the flight ticket. It is going to be between October 15-September 1st. [12:03]
diana_coman: that's rather..difficult, lolz [12:03]
shrysr: diana_coman: Re: date, hmm I corrected that last night actually right after posting. thats weird, cause i don't even set the post date. anyway, i will pay attention to it next post. [12:04]
shrysr: diana_coman: just a quick check of eric's logs .. it appears there is a difference. ima rechecking to confirm. [12:05]
diana_coman: shrysr: did you subscribe with feedbot to the posts and comments on younghands.club and on your own blog? it helps so you also get to see what others see; at times I think your "update/tweaking" of posts also messes up with the rss. [12:06]
whaack: diana_coman: heh i'll try to get my ticket by the end of Wednesday. [12:07]
shrysr: Ahh - actually i have subscribed. I think you mean that trackback to week4 which i accepted only yesterday [12:07]
shrysr: hmm i think i have subscribed only to the comments of younghands though. [12:07]
shrysr: yea. only comments. [12:08]
diana_coman: no, this was on top of the above, not directly relevant to it. [12:08]
whaack: is off to the saltmines.x01 [12:09]
diana_coman: whaack: listen, you seem rather scattered/ with a tendency for superficial and I don't know if it's just that you are doing 1001 things right now and not properly focusing on any or it's a more general thing. [12:10]
shrysr: hmm.. one thing I rem doing different is trying the 'quick post' thingy which i aborted because it seemed I cd not set the category, only tags. The correction was anyway minor and I just copied the html output and clicked update. Hey > i logged in and checked post revisions for week 10 review - it says 23 sep tho [12:14]
diana_coman: shrysr: prolly on "clicked update" it was properly published including setting the date to current so yes, won't see any trouble *now*; let it be and just check/look next time. [12:16]
shrysr: okies [12:16]
shrysr: diana_coman: is p.bvulpes.com down ? I have other sites loading. wanted to paste the diff i get. The lines are not missing, but there appears to be a mismatch in line id's? I re-checked with nosuchlabs - and diff was empty as before. See https://paste.debian.net/1102198 [12:38]
asciilifeform: shrysr: it died and ben vulpes is awol. use trinque's pastetron. [12:40]
shrysr: asciilifeform: ty. hope hez ok... diana_coman repasted diff for eric's log @ http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=iB4l [12:42]
diana_coman: shrysr: use paste.deedbot.org [12:50]
diana_coman: shrysr: that's already on 1mn line and apparently lobbes's bot was on so it has a different time [12:54]
diana_coman: look at the diff and compare http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/ossasepia?istart=999999&iend=1000000 with http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log-raw/ossasepia?istart=999999&iend=1000000 - the only difference is the timestamp on that line [12:55]
shrysr: ok. i see. [12:57]
diana_coman: so it's ok; but nevertheless, good that you pointed it out since it appeared to be a problem. [12:58]
diana_coman: actually now looking at it: wtf why is my nickname there diana-coman all of a sudden for like..6 lines?? http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/19/ossasepia-logs-for-08-Aug-2019#1000000 - asciilifeform any idea? [13:00]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:27:06 diana-coman: lolz, kk [13:00]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in mine also : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-08#1000000 [13:02]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:27:06 diana-coman: lolz, kk [13:02]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: well yes, from 1mn on it's from your dump [13:03]
diana_coman: hm; lemme check in my local log, maybe some fleanode shenanigans and nick changes [13:03]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nop, in local log it's diana_coman there at that line precisely; some weird stuff at start of that dump /log somehow? [13:04]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: but look at this: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=F7_o [13:05]
diana_coman: so yeah, snsabot saw me as diana-coman for a while, lolz [13:05]
asciilifeform: ooops grr elbowed [13:06]
diana_coman: wb asciilifeform ; see paste above. [13:06]
asciilifeform: looksx01 [13:06]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my local log shows same btw ( as yours ) [13:07]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: found any other instances of this oddity ? or only there ? [13:07]
diana_coman: it seems it was snsabot that flipped _ for - but how did it...auto-correct or what [13:08]
diana_coman: uhm, let's search [13:08]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fwiw nothing in the bot log that would suggest a cause [13:08]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this was 8th aug. which is shortly after bot bringup... [13:09]
diana_coman: I can't seem to find another instance at least while using the search box; might need to grep the dump; it's not a huge thing, I can live with it but it's...weird to not enough know wtf happened. [13:09]
diana_coman: even* not "enough" [13:10]
asciilifeform: the only 'invasive' manipulation of the log db since, was the utf8 fixup. but i can't presently think of how it could be the culprit here [13:10]
diana_coman: weird stuff; it does seem like an initial bot-hiccup that got fixed as a side-effect of later fixes I suppose. [13:11]
asciilifeform: !q s f:diana-coman [13:11]
snsabot: 6 results for "f:diana-coman" in #ossasepia [13:11]
asciilifeform: ^ loox like just there. [13:11]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is pretty interesting find tho, because wtf, no changes were made to bot at that specific moment [13:12]
diana_coman: aha [13:12]
asciilifeform: !q s f:- [13:15]
snsabot: 6 results for "f:-" in #ossasepia [13:15]
asciilifeform: same, fwiw [13:15]
asciilifeform: haven't found in e.g. #t any instance of mircea_popescu turning into mircea-popescu [13:16]
asciilifeform: so remains mystery. [13:16]
diana_coman: your bot played tricks on me!!111 [13:16]
diana_coman: funny how nobody noticed at that time though, when bot replied (or failed to speak up on it); anyways, it'll be filed as mystery for now. [13:18]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ty for the eagle eye. and plox to lemme know asap if you find any similar oddity elsewhere in log [13:36]
diana_coman: np; and will do, certainly. [13:38]
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003571 << unfortunately i have to say it's a more general problem at the core of my self. i struggle to structure my day properly and to focus on a task at hand. it is from a mixture of lack of discipline and a dose of "frantic activity to cover for incompetence". as for a tendency to superficial - it's weird a weird thing to admit but that is true. i want that to change bu [14:33]
whaack: t i've grown up around superficial people, being a dilettante is basically considered a virtue in the US. i try to be genuine in what i do but i often go to the shortcuts/paths of least resistance [14:33]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 11:54:21 diana_coman: whaack: listen, you seem rather scattered/ with a tendency for superficial and I don't know if it's just that you are doing 1001 things right now and not properly focusing on any or it's a more general thing. [14:33]
thimbronion: diana_coman: I am throwing an exception early on my first post. I'm only seeing one, maybe two layers of problems with the contract, not several, so with the time I have I won't be able to figure them all out by myself by Weds. Here is what I have so far: http://thimbron.com/2019/09/how-i-fucked-up-my-gpg-key/ [14:45]
whaack: diana_coman: and i believe the superficialness comes from self-defense mechanisms of my ego. here is an example of said self-defense mechanism: i had another blog before ztkfg.com at http://www.whaacked.com/ but reading it over and realizing how much stupidity/dishonesty was there for things like speccing out a game that took concepts from Eulora without citing it http://www.whaacked.com/blog/view/zylon-game-design.html and l [14:47]
whaack: inking to some blogs without sending trackbacks, i decided not to share it, always telling myself "oh i'll pull it into my new blog and then fix it all later" because that's one of the ego's protection tools: tomorrow, tomorrow [14:47]
diana_coman: thimbronion: well, that's why the order of the tasks was originally the other way around: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-22-Sep-2019#1003465 [16:39]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 19:18:20 diana_coman: thimbronion: 1 yes; 2 no, it's http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-22-Sep-2019#1003386 [16:39]
diana_coman: thimbronion: but it works as a reasonable statement of what happened; let it stand as such and move on to the WoT post. [16:40]
diana_coman: whaack: good for you on admitting to it all; now, is http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-23-Sep-2019#1003541 still an actual doubt or just yet another protection/avoidance spew? [16:44]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 11:01:46 whaack: diana_coman: Japan certainly will be blogged! Well I do feel already decided; I don't feel the need to think it over in Japan - I would rather just have guidance on how to make best use of that trip. The only doubt I would have would be that perhaps asciilifeform or another lord is looking for someone and i would be better off serving them... but it seems you are the lord interested in training with younghands et all and woul [16:44]
diana_coman: thimbronion: maybe update that post to make it clear you are talking about a previous key though. [17:19]
diana_coman: whaack: is this Japan-friend the emotional blackmail type? or how friend is this friend really. [17:27]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 06:27:06 diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-17-Sep-2019#1002836 - you know, guilt-tripping is emotional blackmail; do you really imagine that your blackmailers are your friends? [17:27]
diana_coman: and btw, I don't think you ever answered the above q. [17:27]
diana_coman: whaack: re the 2 blogs - you can't run away from yourself; so do yourself a favour and stop trying to split: get the content in one single place, redirect the other domain so no links are broken and stick with it; it's fine to cringe at your own past-doings and it's even healthy because it IS a sign of growth. [17:45]
diana_coman: whaack: fwiw, whaacked.com is an easier to remember domain than ztkfg.com [17:48]
diana_coman: and it's anyway a good idea to actually own your name online as everywhere. [17:49]
diana_coman: !o uptime [17:56]
ossabot: diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 2d 3h 31m [17:56]
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003628 << Well it is no longer a doubt after having spoken with asciilifeform. It may have been a protection/avoidance spew, but i can't recognize it as one myself. [18:24]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 16:28:43 diana_coman: whaack: good for you on admitting to it all; now, is http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-23-Sep-2019#1003541 still an actual doubt or just yet another protection/avoidance spew? [18:24]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 11:01:46 whaack: diana_coman: Japan certainly will be blogged! Well I do feel already decided; I don't feel the need to think it over in Japan - I would rather just have guidance on how to make best use of that trip. The only doubt I would have would be that perhaps asciilifeform or another lord is looking for someone and i would be better off serving them... but it seems you are the lord interested in training with younghands et all and woul [18:24]
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003520 << I cannot think of a reason to turn this offer down, so I will say 'yes'. Maybe at the one per month frequency. [18:32]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-23 09:21:05 diana_coman: lobbes: you are doing quite well there from what I see with planning and sticking to it on the mp-wp work but at any rate - would you find it useful to have also a more general plan+review for yourself on younghands.club? ie going beyond just this one mp-wp current task; maybe for 2 weeks/1 month stretches at a time? [18:32]
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003633 << No, and you're not even the first person to point this out re this "friendship" with this particular person. [18:32]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 17:11:52 diana_coman: and btw, I don't think you ever answered the above q. [18:32]
lobbes: to tie in that thread from #t into here: I see your point. I've made the decision to step into knighthood, and it isn't like there's a "cancel button", so I ought to make use of it. And if diana_coman is offering to gift reviewing of my general plans, I figure it is a good idea to accept [18:34]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 20:33:24 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936552 - so regret your haste then and/or specific choice-avoidance but not your decision; it was made at that time and it's done; regretting the decision only puts you in a very awkward position moving on because now what - you'll be a knight who regrets his decision of being a knight? [18:34]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 14:46:06 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936485 << because my decision was made hastily and prematurely imo. I don't think I needed to resign. I did so thinking I could eschew choice, but that is stupid; can't ever eschew choice wtf. And this dumb move will result in loss of coolness, as mircea_popescu pointed out; loss of privilege. [18:34]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 12:57:02 diana_coman: I just realised that it was probably not clear above: my point was why regret the *decision*. [18:34]
lobbes: whaack: I'm looking forward to your bloggings on Japan btw. I've always wanted to visit there [18:35]
lobbes: For a small second I considered JP as a possible escape destination, but holy shit it sounds both expensive and hard to get permanent residency. Plus the language barrier is tall. South / Central America just seems more rational a destination w/ re: to both of those qualifiers [18:40]
asciilifeform: lobbes: lang is not half as difficult as it looks. moar serious problem is that it's a straight-out usg colony. [18:41]
lobbes: sure, but could always 'break free from yoke' one day, as I think you've pointed out before. (perhaps a slim chance, but who knows) [18:41]
asciilifeform: lobbes: unlikely , imho, to happen before the 2e6-strong occupation army goes home. [18:42]
asciilifeform: but when it does, i dun expect it'll be a mega-seekrit. [18:42]
lobbes: makes sense [18:43]
whaack: whaack: is this Japan-friend the emotional blackmail type? or how friend is this friend really. << Long term friend from childhood. He is not the emotional blackmail type as far as i can tell, he wouldn't guilt trip about . But I will have to meditate on this. I feel with him I enjoy our time together, we do interesting new activities (like take a trip to Japan), but I am not quite sure I grow much out of the relati [18:48]
whaack: onship. [18:49]
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003635 << ztkfg.com was based on http://trilema.com/2014/why-everything-you-think-you-know-about-dns-is-entirely-wrong/ and grabbing a small character count. but i will consider switching to whaacked [18:50]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 17:32:28 diana_coman: whaack: fwiw, whaacked.com is an easier to remember domain than ztkfg.com [18:50]
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003634 << ack. [18:51]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 17:29:43 diana_coman: whaack: re the 2 blogs - you can't run away from yourself; so do yourself a favour and stop trying to split: get the content in one single place, redirect the other domain so no links are broken and stick with it; it's fine to cringe at your own past-doings and it's even healthy because it IS a sign of growth. [18:51]
whaack: lobbes: cool! I am going to Tokyo and Kyoto. I also am stopping in Seoul, Korea for a few days [18:55]
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003630 updated. [19:06]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 17:04:12 diana_coman: thimbronion: maybe update that post to make it clear you are talking about a previous key though. [19:06]
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003627 << moving on [19:07]
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 16:25:07 diana_coman: thimbronion: but it works as a reasonable statement of what happened; let it stand as such and move on to the WoT post. [19:07]

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