#ossasepia Logs for 11 Aug 2019



April 19th, 2020 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: shrysr: done with the blog-futzing? ~16hours left for that. [03:18]
diana_coman: !q help [10:21]
snsabot: diana_coman: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime [10:21]
diana_coman: !q src [10:21]
snsabot: diana_coman: my source code can be seen at: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3452 [10:21]
diana_coman: !q uptime [10:25]
snsabot: diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 1d 12h 33m [10:25]
shrysr: diana_coman: almost..... n i know you are going to laugh. [10:35]
diana_coman: a few hours left; and you also need to publish the week summary for this week & past one that you missed :D [11:02]
diana_coman: tests botx01 [11:02]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: actions seem to show in logger as text said rather than in any way different; is that intended? I don't quite grok what's the thing with *nick then? [11:03]
diana_coman: also: should there be a space or not? i.e. *nick or * nick? (I'm awk-ing that log-before-the-bot file) [11:04]
diana_coman: shrysr: hopefully it's plenty clear that past midnight GMT, further site-messing means I'll totally ignore your site and read *only* what you publish on younghands.club [11:05]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's intended. i wrote bot so as to 'store all possible' bits, but for www display i cribbed phf's styling, which had no scheme for marking 'actions'. thought 'will devise one later, if anyone asks' [11:20]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you have idea for how to mark'em in the log, with minimal mutilation, plox to offer vpatch, i'ma read & deploy [11:21]
shrysr: diana_coman: its cleaaaar. the site as it is - is a reasonable compromise. It is not exactly what i set out to do.... but i think it still ticks the major boxes I wanted. Had to go back to WP and ditch hugo (only due to lack of skills+patience+time)... but i learnt a lot in the process and hopefully, will complete my notes so i know wtf i have been obssessed abt. [11:26]
shrysr: i relied on help from other IRC channels... and its been so nice to have ppl respond and to connect with them, based on 'work', rather than the meaningless posting on linked in. It wd not have been possible without that. [11:30]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: ah, I see; meanwhile I looked in the raw txt from the dump of btcbase and figured out re * too: it's meant to be a field by itself (and that makes it even easier), so cool. [11:30]
diana_coman: shrysr: meaning is much nicer than no meaning, certainly. [11:31]
diana_coman: and yes, linked in and dev.to and all the rest are mainly advertisement places - i.e. most there "talk" to fill the void, not because they have something to say; doh. [11:32]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: see 'eat_dump.py' also, it correctly eats the format. [11:32]
diana_coman: (for extra lulz, check out what they call "strategy" - it's ~= lemme post this in 5 places so it counts as 5*activity) [11:32]
diana_coman: ofc 5*noise is just...a lot more noise, but who cares, right? [11:33]
diana_coman: shrysr: while in general I'm all for "anything you do, it's STILL something learnt", the trouble is that you might end up learning stuff that you'll have to ...unlearn later on. [11:34]
shrysr: i see what you mean. THe indieweb concept actually helps with dealing with the noise, and increasing meaningful interaction across platforms. Especially after coming on to IRC - i'm becoming increasingly irritated with linked in. Unfortunately, it also seems the 'norm' that you should have a github and linked in account ... from recruiters who typically do not understand most things anyway. [11:44]
shrysr: in the whole process, I helped sort of discover a bug in the indieweb-wordpress plugin too ! [11:49]
shrysr: diana_coman: well technically, i 're-posted' my blog post on dev.to and thats how I got to connect with you and get onto IRC... and then subsequent activities - all of which has led to a lot of ...'changes'. The noise helped ..! [11:56]
diana_coman: shrysr: the only unfortunate part is that you don't yet have (or perceive) any other option than to work for those "recruiters"; it's not that they don't understand, no; it's inevitable that they "require" precisely nonsense; but this is deeper and atm you still have to dig yourself out of *previous* holes you got yourself into, so it will wait. [11:57]
diana_coman: shrysr: eh, you realise that it's because I wasted some time in that shithole, precisely trying to see if there was anyone lost in there [11:57]
diana_coman: not as much "the noise helped", not at all [11:57]
diana_coman: the noise almost drowned you. [11:58]
shrysr: Its true. I was drowning.... a lot more than I let on. I hope at some point I find options/answers to free myself of those recruiters. [12:06]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LkNwh/?raw=true -> old log for the logger; let me know if you'd rather I upload the file somewhere or something? [12:48]
diana_coman: shrysr: that's the whole point in growing here :) ; but it takes time, so don't despair. [12:49]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: loox good, lemme test on staging box and meanwhile deedbot it, i'ma feed it into dulap then [12:52]
shrysr: what does plox mean ? [12:53]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: eats w/out issue [12:54]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: feel free to deedbot signed copy [12:54]
diana_coman: shrysr: well, it's a version of please with a hint of ....depending on exact context; does this help tremendously? [12:56]
diana_coman: may be playful, may be parodic, may be pointing out silliness, quite the range [12:57]
shrysr: i've seen asciilifeform use it in the logs and could not understand it. [12:57]
diana_coman: shrysr: base meaning is still please, that much is safe to say. [12:59]
shrysr: thats interesting. [12:59]
shrysr: plox = please + herp derp ? [13:00]
diana_coman: shrysr: ahaha, can be in some cases, yes; can also be for instance please + wtf_is_this_not_done_already [13:00]
diana_coman: human language, you know? viciously NOT independent of context [13:01]
diana_coman: and molded by shared experience, even of the online sort [13:01]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: #o logs imported. [15:15]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know if you notice anyffin missing. [15:16]

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