| diana_coman: | serje, it's quite usual to get tiny claims at every explore, yes | [02:10] |
| diana_coman: | just build the claim to get the resources and then sell the resources for some coppers | [02:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other news, anyone got ancient stove grimes ? or very valuable vapors ? to the tune of like 1k | [07:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got... 3 vvv ;/ | [07:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wait. more like half a stack, what's 1k gonna do | [07:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | o shit, this is what the drudgery bps are for!! | [07:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyone got remembrance tinctures ? | [07:37] |
| diana_coman: | I think danielpbarron was even selling remembrance tinctures or at least they are still in his shop? | [08:22] |
| diana_coman: | actually: danielpbarron is that shop still up to date? | [08:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron i need a bunch, how much ? | [08:23] |
| danielpbarron: | it's been a while since i updated | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | you ready to pick up thjese j cons ? | [10:52] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [10:52] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | eenjoy | [10:53] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 312320/10.00 | [10:54] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 312320/10.00 = 31232 | [10:54] |
| lobbes: | !Qauctionsalestodate | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | Total auction sales to date: 296.043mn ecu (~2.96 BTC) | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes the correct move here is to make a website, present the data with settable granularity. | [11:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's be the other growth direction (besides getting the bot to move a character in game) | [11:09] |
| lobbes: | Agreed. Website is long overdue. | [12:05] |
| Birdman: | my ords are starting to disappear | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | o.O | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | nothing is forever though | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not dig them up? | [15:00] |
| Birdman: | no bundles / ingreds | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | so then maybe just auction them? | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | how could you possibly not have bundles, electron was selling all ofg them ? | [15:08] |
| Birdman: | well i have the wrong bundles | [15:10] |
| Birdman: | i couldnt afford to buy a ton of em too | [15:11] |
| Birdman: | have key bits always had the same description as the key after they turn? 'key to this claim at these coords' | [15:15] |
| diana_coman: | description lasts way longer than the actual thing it turns out, lol | [15:18] |
| diana_coman: | that will get fixed at some point | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh so they are new bundles ? | [16:05] |
| Birdman: | no they are from electron | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't get this. are the claims that are disappearing made after electron ran out of bundles ? | [16:10] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | o. | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | so danielpbarron can you make remembrance tinctures ? | [21:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i need almost wine | [21:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. /me adding to the list. | [22:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | anything else ? | [22:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | seems i got 18. how much do you need ? | [22:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman hoiw are you for wwb ? | [22:01] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 12*41 | [22:01] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 12*41 = 492 | [22:01] |
| danielpbarron: | that many ^ | [22:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh. | [22:01] |
| danielpbarron: | or maybe more if you wanna bundle them for even higher quality | [22:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i expect like ... a coupla stacks good q wwb needed then | [22:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe mnore as you say | [22:02] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 4*41 | [22:02] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 4*41 = 164 | [22:02] |
| danielpbarron: | also mishaped ampoules ^ | [22:03] |
| danielpbarron: | and the third ingredient is chetty sticks! so the question is: fresh or used? | [22:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | o brother. | [22:05] |
| danielpbarron: | i have plenty of used ones | [22:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i got some used, and i got some very high q ones | [22:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose i might as well auction those huh, ifg they now have utility. | [22:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qauction 3.5mn 24 13 CS d 89114 ea | [22:06] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 91 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 13 CS d 89114 ea Opening: 3.5mn coppers Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (24 hours) | [22:06] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 13*89114 | [22:07] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 13*89114 = 1158482 | [22:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron how many ma do you need ? | [22:07] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 91 3.5mn | [22:07] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 91: 13 CS d 89114 ea Heard: 3.5mn from danielpbarron Ending: 2017-05-06 02:06:56 UTC (23 hours 59 mins) | [22:07] |
| danielpbarron: | the almost wine is the bigger issue as i can't make those myself | [22:08] |
| danielpbarron: | but the number is 164' | [22:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i mean, i have 41 RT blueprints and they want 3 to 4 MA each | [22:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | well if you got the ma then all's good. though i got q 282 ones. | [22:08] |
| danielpbarron: | maybe more if i get you to bundle them | [22:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm willing to bundle. want me to look at bp ? | [22:09] |
| danielpbarron: | we probably want to go as high quality as possible on these things | [22:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i expect. | [22:09] |
| danielpbarron: | since the journeyman consids are quality 1000 | [22:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i can make wine, just need wwb got the rest. | [22:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course, part of the problem here is that these toils actually are... lapidary. | [22:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | so which one of you two is the lapidary expert ? | [22:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow, http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-official-april-auction-or-a-story-of-toils/ << danielpbarron didja buy the drudgeries / tinctures for like 200\% just about a year ago ? | [22:30] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess so | [22:37] |
| danielpbarron: | i think i've got highest lapidary rank but third highest tinkering which seems to play a larger role | [22:37] |
| danielpbarron: | or my character just sucks at all crafting | [22:37] |
| danielpbarron: | i make 3 units per click on all craft lines | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what's your drudgery recipe say ? | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | mine is 6-8 tincture 371 to 719 handles | [22:39] |
| danielpbarron: | 4 to 5 tincture, 255 to 494 numina | [22:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [22:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | my lapidary is not that low i guess ? | [22:40] |
| danielpbarron: | your tinkering is that high | [22:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | a tinkering huh. | [22:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | i do have ~150 lapidary so not exactly noob | [22:40] |
| danielpbarron: | i have almost twice that | [22:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | but less than half tink ? | [22:41] |
| danielpbarron: | heh that wouldn't surprise me | [22:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, show me the tincture recipe see what it sdays to me ? | [22:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | 10-12 sticks ampoules, 30-35 wine | [22:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh, this is cooking item ? | [22:42] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [22:42] |
| danielpbarron: | didn't you come up with all these recipes? or did you order someone else to do it so that it would be fun for you to discover? | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | so apparently we got this backwards, i should prolly click the tinctures you should prolly click my drudgeries | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron either i have split-brain and i can get myself to do things i don't know about, or else i emulate it! | [22:43] |
| danielpbarron: | don't you just have 1 of each drudgery? | [22:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah | [22:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh you have like 10 don't you | [22:44] |
| danielpbarron: | 10 of each, minus the 1 of each you bought, and minus a few more i already clicked | [22:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | thing is i expect i'd get 9 maybe 10 tinctures per click | [22:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much i paid for the 1s, do you even recall ? | [22:45] |
| danielpbarron: | about how much i paid | [22:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | 200\% ? killer deals huh. | [22:45] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah | [22:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | the thing is though, since tincture itself is gumbo, you should probably do all gumbos first | [22:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | in the hope that clicking the j gumbo i get more tincutre bps | [22:46] |
| danielpbarron: | i have 41 tincture blueprints and they make 3 each if i click, or what 8 if you click? | [22:47] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 41*8 | [22:47] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 41*8 = 328 | [22:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm though maybe i don't have this right. if your 41 make me say 360 tinctures, that's enough for you to click all 50 isnt it | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron nah, 9,, maybe 10 even | [22:48] |
| danielpbarron: | so yeah it's enough | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah like that it'd work. | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | though if youi click the tinctures and i click the lapidary, it's 41 * 3 vs 8 * 50 | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | o, you clicked a few already ? so how much do you get ? do they drop numina ? | [22:50] |
| danielpbarron: | that was before the blueprint changes | [22:50] |
| danielpbarron: | haven't done it in a long while | [22:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [22:50] |
| lobbesbot: | A#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (23h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea | [22:50] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids --- | [22:50] |
| danielpbarron: | so i got a miserable 1 per click | [22:50] |
| danielpbarron: | but drudgery also only used 1 per click | [22:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh shit. | [22:50] |
| danielpbarron: | and i think it made 2 numina per click | [22:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i need like... 722 vapors for 1 bp ;/ | [22:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i've got a few of these uber numina already | [22:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | how the fuck am i getting the 3500 to do all 5 ? | [22:51] |
| danielpbarron: | 10 | [22:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, 3500 vapors 3500 grimes | [22:51] |
| danielpbarron: | doesn't have to be all at once | [22:52] |
| danielpbarron: | also, doesn't have to be soon | [22:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you got like 10 drudgeries, you're seriously going to make like 3 per click ? that's... i mean wtf, should i click 30 / 722 loadout ? | [22:52] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't know that i'd get 3 per click on those | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [22:53] |
| danielpbarron: | the toils make me about 100 per click | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | o they do ? | [22:53] |
| danielpbarron: | they count differently from other things | [22:53] |
| danielpbarron: | i get 3 per click on non-numina stuffs | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [22:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | well if you get 100 that'd be nice, at least i could do one click with peace of mind. | [22:54] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm not saying i'd get 100 vapors per click. but i do get ~100 flags per click on a toil | [22:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | this high numina is rare as all fuck, in all my crafting i got a grand total of 3 of them | [22:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | and also they're exp-ensive like fuck, 100k | [22:55] |
| danielpbarron: | you got some from crafting?? | [22:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | yea | [22:55] |
| danielpbarron: | i've never seen that | [22:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think they've been in my storage for a year and a half. | [22:55] |
| danielpbarron: | are they tinkering? | [22:55] |
| danielpbarron: | aspirations | [22:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | vapors | [22:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | which are mcguyver i think | [22:56] |
| danielpbarron: | yes | [22:56] |
| danielpbarron: | aptly named, very valuable vapors | [22:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-04-10.log.html#t16:16:32 <<< check it out, a year almost to the day! | [22:56] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2016-04-10 16:16:32: <mircea_popescu> holy shit i looted "very valuable vapors" | [22:56] |
| danielpbarron: | what quality vapors? | [22:57] |
| danielpbarron: | i have 2 of them, quality 472 | [22:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | 99 | [22:58] |
| danielpbarron: | and i have 1 petrified aspiration quality 676, the result of a glitch | [22:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh ? | [22:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i mentioned this in here when it happened, and it was fixed | [22:59] |
| danielpbarron: | but the drudgery blueprint had the wrong text | [23:00] |
| danielpbarron: | turned the bundle into the product instantly and without using up the blueprint | [23:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [23:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i recall now | [23:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-04-20.log.html#t19:37:11 | [23:00] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2016-04-20 19:37:11: <danielpbarron> instead of a bundle, it turned directly into a single petrified aspiration | [23:00] |
| danielpbarron: | i also have 6 priceless golden spectacles, that's the lapidary one | [23:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey | [23:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's your j cons say to you ? | [23:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | going through year old log... that alikim dude. why the fuck did he have to go off the deep end ? he seemed promising. | [23:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | dude's head, dude's worst enemy. | [23:02] |
| danielpbarron: | 1 to 3 tomes and tokens, 5 to 7 BoD, 1 to 227 numina | [23:02] |
| danielpbarron: | was he the one that modified the client on windows? | [23:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, he was trying anyway. | [23:02] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah it's a shame he left. that was good stuff he did | [23:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | issuez. | [23:03] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 227*100000 | [23:04] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 227*100000 = 22700000 | [23:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah it occurs to me we're not able to click these anyway, won't fit in a week. | [23:04] |
| danielpbarron: | lol these consids are gonna cost at least a whole BTC to click, each | [23:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron mine'd cost 72 mn just in bv numina, if i could get it together. which i don't iomagine i couild, currently. | [23:05] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah, just the base value. what's the market value? | [23:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | nfi. | [23:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | it'd be great just about now if we had a working formula for how long it takes to craft | [23:06] |
| danielpbarron: | but yeah, won't fit in a week is right. i've been meaning to ask, can the server reset schedule switch to every 2 weeks? | [23:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | we could calculate what q bundle fits in a weekl | [23:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron the idea is to not do it anymore at all, eventually. | [23:07] |
| danielpbarron: | is there always going to be a week cut-off? | [23:07] |
| danielpbarron: | oh | [23:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah. | [23:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | just while the code still sucks. | [23:07] |
| danielpbarron: | so i'd rather just hold these until then | [23:07] |
| danielpbarron: | not try to undercraft them | [23:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly. i don't see myself clicking a 1-2-3\% loaded cons tbh. esp with high q cons. seems insane. | [23:07] |
| danielpbarron: | they say they make maculature.. i don't want more of that | [23:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [23:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | i find it very strange that you are so much closer to me in bouquinism than lapidary | [23:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | is your bouq skill actually above your lap ? | [23:08] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [23:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | then wtf. | [23:09] |
| danielpbarron: | that's my lowest skill in the crafting line | [23:09] |
| danielpbarron: | it goes: tinkering, mcguyver, gumbo, lapidary, bouq | [23:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 719 / 494 | [23:10] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 719 / 494 = 1.4554655870445343 | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | ^ bough | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 12 / 4 | [23:10] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 12 / 4 = 3 | [23:10] |
| danielpbarron: | what is 494? | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're like... twice as close in bouq as lapidary | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | the max numina your bp uses | [23:10] |
| danielpbarron: | i said 227 | [23:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron 4 to 5 tincture, 255 to 494 numina | [23:11] |
| danielpbarron: | that's lapidary | [23:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | ircea_popescu mine is 6-8 tincture 371 to 719 handles | [23:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [23:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you're 1.4554 in lapidary | [23:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | so how many vapors or w/e do the j cons want from you ? | [23:12] |
| danielpbarron: | 1 to 227 | [23:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 722 / 227 | [23:13] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 722 / 227 = 3.180616740088106 | [23:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol check that out, reverse number. | [23:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i'm actually better at bouq than lapidary by... 3 / 719 ie 0.4\% ? | [23:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wonder if this is right | [23:14] |
| danielpbarron: | it was 719 last you checked. it went up by 3 since then? | [23:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, no. the cons is 722. the drudgery is 719 | [23:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | lemme recheck | [23:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, drudgery is 372 to 719. cons is 1 to 722 | [23:15] |
| danielpbarron: | it could have gone up. my toils always want a different number | [23:15] |
| danielpbarron: | like, after 10 minutes they want a new number | [23:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wonder why, not like i'm clicking anything this short. | [23:15] |
| danielpbarron: | they take around 5k, so they feel a very small effect | [23:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's see my neophyte cons | [23:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | 6 to 72870 | [23:16] |
| danielpbarron: | lol | [23:16] |
| danielpbarron: | does that even fit in a container? | [23:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. 16 slots. | [23:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | still same, 72870 | [23:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima check over a few mins and see. | [23:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron that's why i was telling diana_coman , i guzzle them like water. what, s 22 stacks, like 3 clicks ? pshew. | [23:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i thought i used them fast at 5k a click | [23:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | the bitch is im stuck burning 6 tokens per click. | [23:18] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 72870/9999 | [23:18] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 72870/9999 = 7.287728772877288 | [23:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | 72871! | [23:18] |
| danielpbarron: | the real bitch is the tomes | [23:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | wow it does change. | [23:18] |
| danielpbarron: | aha! | [23:19] |
| danielpbarron: | and it went up!? wtf | [23:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron im totally going to sell tomes, juust gotta get this cons out of the way and then make the gs. i got the snakeskin and all. | [23:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | making some real nice q350 gs, too. should be good tomes. | [23:19] |
| danielpbarron: | 8 slots the numina, 2 slots the token and ink, and .. the tomes? how many slots is that! | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | 6 | [23:20] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 8 + 2 + 6 | [23:20] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 8 + 2 + 6 = 16 | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | but afaik new tomes stack | [23:20] |
| danielpbarron: | oh | [23:20] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a running pile of used toolkits that's over 20 now | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | burned off the old tomes in app clicks | [23:21] |
| danielpbarron: | wait is it that the older toolkits will just never stack? | [23:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah | [23:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | still 72871 | [23:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | it doesn't change very fast. | [23:22] |
| danielpbarron: | fast enough that it'll be different by the time the craft finishes | [23:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | tru. | [23:23] |
| danielpbarron: | this is how i got into pre-bundling | [23:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | tbh i never yet chained cons clicks. | [23:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | they take ~week | [23:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | im not even sure the current one will fit till wed. | [23:24] |
| danielpbarron: | a toil takes me 3 to 4 hours | [23:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah yeah. | [23:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | gs takes me like ... 8 | [23:24] |
| danielpbarron: | and they used to rank me up all the way but now they get most of the way, and i have to click something smaller inbetween | [23:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | a there is that | [23:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | 72873 | [23:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha-HA! | [23:31] |
| danielpbarron: | for me it's usually less, not more | [23:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [23:39] |
| lobbesbot: | A#91 O=3.5mn HB=3.5mn E=05-06 02:06:56 (22h16) >>> 13 CS d 89114 ea | [23:50] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 3.5mn total bids --- | [23:50] |
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