#eulora Logs for 23 Feb 2017


February 23rd, 2017 by Diana Coman
thestringpuller: hanbot: you need to use the one for 2.62+. faces was upgraded to polygons after 2.45 [00:14]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (16 hours 38 mins) [00:18]
thestringpuller: https://github.com/alexeyd/blender2cal3d/commit/f1b3da8f2383534b96dadc471887f3d394d43897 [00:20]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (15 hours 38 mins) [01:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (14 hours 38 mins) [02:18]
diana_coman: hanbot, aha, thanks for testing that - it was more of a long shot just in case something might actually work, seems not really [02:21]
Birdman: getting some error message while trying to pick up my craft table, says "this item cannot be picked up" [02:50]
Birdman: i think the server might be about to crash or something, i cant read any bps or examine things [02:51]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (13 hours 38 mins) [03:18]
diana_coman: sorry folks, db trouble and it will have to wait for mircea_popescu [04:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (12 hours 38 mins) [04:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (11 hours 38 mins) [05:18]
diana_coman: hm, hanbot, I actually managed to export your thingie with that exporter [05:45]
diana_coman: but I think the "instructions" are...wrong, lolz [05:45]
diana_coman: it's wiggling its bum all right in the test code; I'll write it up and provide a script to bridge the gaps so you can take it from blender to the test program to see it [05:46]
diana_coman: the material so far is the only thing that seems to have been lost [05:47]
diana_coman: that'll have to be looked at separately [05:47]
diana_coman: !Qbid 27 3.8mn [05:52]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Heard: 3.8mn from diana_coman overbidding hanbot Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (11 hours 4 mins) [05:52]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.8mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (10 hours 38 mins) [06:19]
thestringpuller: diana_coman: you can't use XRF files in crystal space. there is a script to dump them in <material> tags in the *.cs/*.cal3d file [06:23]
diana_coman: thestringpuller, you know, I have everything working while you still talk around for some reason [06:54]
thestringpuller: me too. the viewer you posted was quite helpful. [07:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.8mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (9 hours 38 mins) [07:19]
mircea_popescu: ok, server back up everyone. sorry for the downtime - automated updates fucked our db arrangement. [08:07]
diana_coman: so thestringpuller let's clarify something: links and random bits and whatnots you keep spurting here as a sort of google impersonator are NOT helpful and you are NOT contributing anything that way; either you have a question and then ask nicely or you have something to show and then upload it somewhere and point to it; otherwise shut up [08:13]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.8mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (8 hours 38 mins) [08:19]
danielpbarron: !~calc 180*3 [09:17]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 180*3 = 540 [09:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.8mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (7 hours 38 mins) [09:19]
danielpbarron: !~calc 0.71*4*540 - 1.49*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 [09:19]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 0.71*4*540 - 1.49*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 = 655.0199999999999 [09:19]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1.27*4*540 - 4.85*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 [09:22]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1.27*4*540 - 4.85*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 = 50.219999999999814 [09:22]
danielpbarron: !~calc 0.72*4*540 - 1.54*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 [09:23]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 0.72*4*540 - 1.54*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 = 649.62 [09:23]
danielpbarron: !~calc 0.65*4*540 - 1.25*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 [09:24]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 0.65*4*540 - 1.25*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 = 655.02 [09:24]
hanbot: diana_coman wow and it works an all? great. wonder what i messed up there. [09:26]
danielpbarron: shinohai, Birdman can you see what quality bct bundles you can make? [09:29]
danielpbarron: i can't go lower than 125 right now [09:29]
hanbot: did someone get my altar? [09:31]
danielpbarron: !~calc (655/26)*60*60*24*30 [09:37]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (655/26)*60*60*24*30 = 6.529846153846155E7 [09:37]
danielpbarron: !~calc ((655/26)*60*60*24*30)*0.00000001*1100 [09:38]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: ((655/26)*60*60*24*30)*0.00000001*1100 = 718.283076923077 [09:38]
shinohai: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-02-23.log.html#t10:46:47 <<< to me, bum wiggling is the epitome of great art. [09:47]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-02-23 10:46:47: <diana_coman> it's wiggling its bum all right in the test code; I'll write it up and provide a script to bridge the gaps so you can take it from blender to the test program to see it [09:47]
shinohai: danielpbarron: got a bp I can use to try? I have none [09:47]
danielpbarron: yes [09:51]
danielpbarron: trade me [09:51]
shinohai: kk one sec signing in [09:51]
shinohai: is late getting started today! [09:51]
danielpbarron: remember, don't actually craft it. just make the bundle so i can click it [09:52]
danielpbarron: what's it say? [09:56]
shinohai: accept? [09:56]
danielpbarron: what does it say? [09:56]
danielpbarron: i'm gonna give you threads too [09:57]
shinohai: I cant see it until the trade acdepts [09:57]
shinohai: *accepts [09:57]
danielpbarron: that can't be true [09:57]
shinohai: I mean, I can't click the item [09:57]
danielpbarron: so how many threads does it want? [09:58]
shinohai: 1 cft [09:58]
danielpbarron: no range? neat [09:58]
danielpbarron: don't craft it! just bundle [09:59]
danielpbarron: you can do this in a claim, or a craft table but you need to grab the bundle quick before the craft finishes [09:59]
danielpbarron: actually that might not work now, might not let you take all while craft is going [09:59]
shinohai: it like finished instantly lol [10:00]
shinohai: i was unable to get bundle over [10:00]
danielpbarron: ok take another thread and this time do it in a claim [10:00]
danielpbarron: or a used toolkit or something [10:00]
shinohai: oh cool I got a used toolkit in old town [10:00]
shinohai: gona give me the bp too? [10:02]
shinohai: heh q22 bct [10:02]
danielpbarron: you can keep that [10:02]
shinohai: kk imma run back and get my toolkit, gimmie 5 minutes [10:02]
danielpbarron: what is it on the ground? [10:03]
shinohai: wait i forgot i can check my stprage with heina [10:03]
shinohai: danielpbarron: made a q9 bundle [10:05]
danielpbarron: k gimme [10:06]
danielpbarron: !~calc 0.18*4*540 - 0.09*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 [10:07]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 0.18*4*540 - 0.09*540 - 1.37*0.1*540 = 266.21999999999997 [10:07]
danielpbarron: and the results are in! [10:07]
danielpbarron: shinohai, you are NOT the bundler for me [10:07]
danielpbarron: maybe Birdman can make me one slightly under where i make 'em. i'm either on the sweet spot or it's a little lower [10:08]
shinohai: lol, well I tried anyway [10:08]
danielpbarron: thanks shinohai [10:12]
shinohai: no worries, never hurts to experiment .... unless said experiment costs your patron 10 bitcents [10:13]
mircea_popescu: lol [10:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.8mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (6 hours 38 mins) [10:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 3.8mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (5 hours 38 mins) [11:19]
hanbot: !Qbid 27 4mn [12:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Heard: 4mn from hanbot overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (4 hours 38 mins) [12:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 4mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (4 hours 38 mins) [12:19]
danielpbarron: !~calc 4*646*540*0.65 - 646*540*1.25 - 646*54*1.37 [12:31]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 4*646*540*0.65 - 646*540*1.25 - 646*54*1.37 = 423142.92 [12:31]
danielpbarron: !~calc 423143*0.00000001*1132 [12:32]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 423143*0.00000001*1132 = 4.78997876 [12:32]
danielpbarron: !~calc ((646*26)/60)/60 [12:33]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: ((646*26)/60)/60 = 4.665555555555556 [12:33]
danielpbarron: dollar an hour [12:34]
danielpbarron: !~calc 250*0.65*540 [12:36]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 250*0.65*540 = 87750 [12:36]
danielpbarron: !Qauction 87750 6 250 BCT q 65 [12:38]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28 STARTED by danielpbarron: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87750 coppers Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (6 hours) [12:38]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 4mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (3 hours 38 mins) [13:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87.75k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (5 hours 19 mins) [13:19]
Birdman: need something done danielpbarron [14:14]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 4mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (2 hours 38 mins) [14:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87.75k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (4 hours 19 mins) [14:19]
Birdman: these ords can really eat up some resources now [14:33]
Birdman: could only imagine what some of foxy's ords take [14:33]
Birdman: also seems i cant get farming or mining to come out nearly as high as basics [15:00]
Birdman: best ive seen from farming was ~q180, with basics almost q500 [15:01]
Birdman: my farming is higher than my sortage too, but has less of an impact. its not so much of a difference in skill to expect such different qualities from claims but i guess thats how it is [15:03]
thestringpuller: diana_coman: http://thestringpuller.com/2017/02/simple-blender-2-66-cal3d/ << my writeup at least. not much but probably similar process to yours. [15:10]
diana_coman: thestringpuller, interesting, as that's for sure a different exporter to start with; [15:15]
diana_coman: cal3d comes with a converter xml<->binary too ftr [15:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 4mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (1 hours 38 mins) [15:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87.75k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (3 hours 19 mins) [15:19]
thestringpuller: diana_coman: i'm using the converter that installs in ; had problem with the one that installs from apt-get [15:21]
diana_coman: ah, you DO mean the cal3d one, yes [15:21]
diana_coman: and indeed, that's the one to use: the one from your distro is probably a different version/not matching our cal3d version [15:21]
diana_coman: will you write a bash script to do those steps ? [15:22]
diana_coman: thestringpuller, ^ [15:24]
thestringpuller: yea i can build a script to run cal3d_converter xml -> binary [15:24]
thestringpuller: in theory you could trigger it would os package in python from exporter itself. [15:24]
thestringpuller: s/would/with *** [15:25]
diana_coman: thestringpuller, a script to run the converter + create the cal3d file for the viewer [15:26]
diana_coman: I'll update the viewer to work with any file one gives as parameter [15:26]
diana_coman: what's that jinja-minja-ninja thing and why does one really NEED it? [15:29]
thestringpuller: simplicity of generating the *cal3d file from a template. I can do it programmatically,but will have to look into rendering XML-esque stuff directly [15:30]
diana_coman: rummages around for some old scripts that spit out xml [15:31]
thestringpuller: bbl [15:33]
diana_coman: the xml element tree api should be enough in any case [15:35]
diana_coman: the point is to make the whole process lean, effective and sane, not to saddle people with all sorts of libraries they don't need [15:35]
danielpbarron: !~calc (304*0.02*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/0.5 [15:39]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (304*0.02*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/0.5 = 10716.720000000001 [15:39]
danielpbarron: !~calc (304*0.02*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/10717 [15:40]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (304*0.02*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/10717 = 0.4999869366427172 [15:40]
danielpbarron: !~calc (304*0.02*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/10716 [15:40]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (304*0.02*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/10716 = 0.5000335946248601 [15:40]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1787/10716 [15:41]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1787/10716 = 0.16675998506905562 [15:41]
danielpbarron: !~calc 246/0.23 [15:43]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 246/0.23 = 1069.5652173913043 [15:43]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1069*0.23 [15:43]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1069*0.23 = 245.87 [15:43]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1787*4 - 10716*0.5 - 1070*0.23 [15:43]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1787*4 - 10716*0.5 - 1070*0.23 = 1543.9 [15:43]
danielpbarron: !~calc 2115*4 - 10716*0.7 - 1070*0.23 [15:45]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 2115*4 - 10716*0.7 - 1070*0.23 = 712.7000000000002 [15:45]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1908*4 - 10716*0.57 - 1070*0.23 [15:48]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1908*4 - 10716*0.57 - 1070*0.23 = 1277.7800000000002 [15:48]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1941*4 - 10716*0.59 - 1070*0.23 [15:52]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1941*4 - 10716*0.59 - 1070*0.23 = 1195.4600000000005 [15:52]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1891*4 - 10716*0.56 - 1070*0.23 [15:55]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1891*4 - 10716*0.56 - 1070*0.23 = 1316.9399999999991 [15:55]
danielpbarron: !~calc (304*0.04*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/10716 [15:57]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (304*0.04*57+255*0.02*88+13*540*0.65)/10716 = 0.5323740201567749 [15:57]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1840*4 - 10716*0.53 - 1070*0.23 [16:00]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1840*4 - 10716*0.53 - 1070*0.23 = 1434.4199999999996 [16:00]
danielpbarron: !~calc 71*1434 [16:01]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 71*1434 = 101814 [16:01]
danielpbarron: !~calc (101814/40)*60 [16:01]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (101814/40)*60 = 152721.00000000003 [16:02]
danielpbarron: !~calc (101814/40)*60*0.00000001*1130 [16:02]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (101814/40)*60*0.00000001*1130 = 1.7257473000000005 [16:02]
danielpbarron: !Qauction 55200 6 30 CFTH q 1840 [16:06]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29 STARTED by danielpbarron: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55200 coppers Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (6 hours) [16:06]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27: one stack cft q 132 Opening: 2.5mn Highest Bid: 4mn Ending: 2017-02-23 21:57:26 UTC (0 hours 38 mins) [16:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87.75k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (2 hours 19 mins) [16:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55.2k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (5 hours 47 mins) [16:19]
danielpbarron: attention noobs and poor folks ^ shinohai Birdman etc [16:19]
Birdman: what would we need bct for [16:19]
Birdman: and whats cfth [16:20]
danielpbarron: figure it out [16:20]
danielpbarron: that's base value, how could you not make money [16:20]
danielpbarron: chair for the head [16:20]
Birdman: fair enough [16:20]
Birdman: !Qbid 29 55200 [16:20]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Heard: 55.2k from Birdman Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (5 hours 45 mins) [16:20]
Birdman: !Qbid 28 87750 [16:21]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Heard: 87.75k from Birdman Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (2 hours 17 mins) [16:21]
danielpbarron: !~calc (30*0.65*540)/2.78 [16:53]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: (30*0.65*540)/2.78 = 3787.769784172662 [16:53]
danielpbarron: !~calc 0.94*4*3780 - 2.78*3780 - 1.29*378 [16:57]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 27 has ENDED: one stack cft q 132 SOLD to hanbot for 4mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu [16:57]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 0.94*4*3780 - 2.78*3780 - 1.29*378 = 3216.7799999999997 [16:57]
danielpbarron: !~calc 12625/3.34 [16:59]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 12625/3.34 = 3779.9401197604793 [16:59]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1.02*4*3780 - 3.34*3780 - 1.29*378 [17:05]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1.02*4*3780 - 3.34*3780 - 1.29*378 = 2309.580000000001 [17:05]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87.75k Highest Bid: 87.75k Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (1 hours 19 mins) [17:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55.2k Highest Bid: 55.2k Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (4 hours 47 mins) [17:19]
danielpbarron: !~calc 846098/5.98 [17:21]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 846098/5.98 = 141487.95986622074 [17:21]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28: 250 BCT q 65 Opening: 87.75k Highest Bid: 87.75k Ending: 2017-02-23 23:38:53 UTC (0 hours 19 mins) [18:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55.2k Highest Bid: 55.2k Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (3 hours 47 mins) [18:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 28 has ENDED: 250 BCT q 65 SOLD to Birdman for 87.75k coppers. Attn: danielpbarron [18:39]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55.2k Highest Bid: 55.2k Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (2 hours 47 mins) [19:19]
lobbesbot: Post from dianacoman: Basic toolchain for Blender â\u0080\u0093 Cal3d â\u0080\u0093 Crystal Space <http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/02/24/basic-toolchain-for-blender-cal3d-crystal-space/> [19:21]
diana_coman: hanbot, ^ [19:22]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55.2k Highest Bid: 55.2k Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (1 hours 47 mins) [20:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29: 30 CFTH q 1840 Opening: 55.2k Highest Bid: 55.2k Ending: 2017-02-24 03:06:18 UTC (0 hours 47 mins) [21:19]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 29 has ENDED: 30 CFTH q 1840 SOLD to Birdman for 55.2k coppers. Attn: danielpbarron [22:06]

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