#eulora Logs for 13 Dec 2016



December 13th, 2016 by Diana Coman
EDLionX: internet is messing with my ass again [00:15]
EDLionX: i only have a bandwith of 3mbps can you believe that? [00:16]
mircea_popescu: im off to bed. cya tomorro! [00:16]
EDLionX: sheesh! [00:16]
EDLionX: night! [00:16]
diana_coman: hello usman [05:23]
usman: hello! i need some help [05:27]
usman: ??? [05:28]
usman: ??? [05:32]
diana_coman: so what do you need help with? [05:35]
diana_coman: what did you try and how did it fail usman ? [05:36]
usman: i need a account to login. [05:36]
usman: but not understanding how to do all the procedure for account set up [05:37]
usman: can you help me pleaseeeee? [05:37]
diana_coman: are you following the steps on the wiki? [05:39]
mircea_popescu: waves [05:39]
diana_coman: usman, this: http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup [05:39]
lobbesbot: Title: Account Setup - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [05:39]
diana_coman: bwhahahaha http://digitalmoneytimes.com/bitcoin-mmorpg-eulora-potential-needs-ton-work/ [05:40]
diana_coman: it's even old lolz but somehow it surfaced for me only now [05:40]
mircea_popescu: i think it's from like 2015 [05:41]
diana_coman: yeah, but it's hilarious , what can I say [05:41]
diana_coman: "To make matters even worse, there are no gameplay videos of this game to be found anywhere" [05:41]
diana_coman: oh noes, no gameplay videos!!!! [05:41]
mircea_popescu: actually there are now [05:42]
mircea_popescu: let it not be said mp doesn't take suggestions from the internetbox. [05:42]
mircea_popescu: how's tricks EDLionX ? [05:42]
diana_coman: there are, but I find the complaint utterly hilarious [05:42]
diana_coman: next will be: and the guides are all...text! like with words! [05:42]
diana_coman: what next in this unfair world!! [05:42]
diana_coman: did usman run out of eeee in pleaseeee? [05:43]
mircea_popescu: laugh if you will, but i can see the sense in it. you and me, if computers dun work we get pissed off, but we flatten them into shape, within an hour or w/e. most users ? can't. TAKES WEEKS. have nfi what to do. gotta read forums. total pain in the ass ; and if our efforts to fix a game fuck the os, we fix it. they... have to reinstall. [05:43]
mircea_popescu: so in a sense, watching how the game goes for five minutes before committing to the sort of hassle makes sense [05:43]
EDLionX: sup guys [05:43]
EDLionX: just got back from the movies [05:44]
EDLionX: lemme read the chat [05:44]
EDLionX: oh [05:44]
mircea_popescu: you should see what i went through to get mm7 to go. WITH sound. WITH non-fucking sound (had to change pulseaudio from speex to ffmpeg compression. it's one line in the config, BUT you gotta know a) configs exist and b) HOW EVERYTHING WORKS!) [05:44]
EDLionX: see one of them guys [05:44]
diana_coman: oh, I can see their "sense" - I just still think it's nonsense because if one can't read then go and dig/draw in the mud whatevs [05:44]
EDLionX: anddddd he went away [05:44]
EDLionX: kewl [05:44]
mircea_popescu: heh. [05:44]
EDLionX: anyways gotta afk again for maybe 2 hours [05:44]
mircea_popescu: "dude's it's hard help me" "bye" "here you go... oh!" [05:45]
mircea_popescu: laters! [05:45]
EDLionX: yeah sorry busy with studdf [05:45]
diana_coman: EDLionX, best he went away now then wasting everyone's time longer basically [05:45]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's even more fun: "it's hard help meeee!" "here you go" "bye" [05:45]
mircea_popescu: that's not so bad even. but i think he closed the page before your link [05:46]
mircea_popescu: (there's a ~5 min delay before it gets reported here because of how irc works) [05:46]
diana_coman: ah, it's ping timeout not quit [05:46]
diana_coman: yeah [05:46]
mircea_popescu: yup [05:46]
diana_coman: for some reason I thought it was quit [05:46]
diana_coman: and yeah, I remember the pain of setting up planescape on a box a few years ago, sure [05:47]
mircea_popescu: right. so that's what i think it is - software sucks and people want some sort of way to tell before [05:53]
diana_coman: tbh I think you are being optimistic there, but in any case the thing that makes me laugh is more the idea that one considers a video will tell them whether what is actually important about a game pretty much; basically the baked-in notion that visual is the essence and the only thing that matters [06:00]
diana_coman: a video will tell them whether it's worth playing or not, what is... [06:00]
diana_coman: ugh [06:00]
mircea_popescu: hey, cam tells one whether a girl's worth taking out or not... [06:02]
mircea_popescu: btw i gotta say - under the load of wine emulation ; firefox firefuckery AND eulora playing, the client's so fucked the progress bar for mining jumps in 1-2 second installments, rather than moving smoothly it does 1cm jumps at a time. [06:04]
mircea_popescu: nevertheless - the bot trudges on, undisturbed! [06:04]
diana_coman: heh, why would it care; only if things get really jammed and packages get lost [06:05]
mircea_popescu: yeah. impressively resilient. [06:06]
diana_coman: re cam my understanding is more like one quick fuck than all that taking out complicated thing that might even involve...talking; as in more than 10 pre-rehearsed words, gasp [06:06]
mircea_popescu: this is not so. yes, it's true that most men are dorky ; but no, it's not true that the bright ones are not men. the decision driver is visual. [06:07]
diana_coman: as in most men are not blind; perhaps [06:08]
mircea_popescu: oddly, this doesn't need to be put in the form of "most men aren't mute". [06:09]
diana_coman: might be why I find men funny then :D [06:09]
usman: hello [06:09]
mircea_popescu: hola usman [06:09]
usman: can you help me? [06:09]
mircea_popescu: yeah see up in the log, she gave you a link. [06:09]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t10:39:34 <\ [06:10]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Tuesday, 2016-12-13 (at logs.minigame.bz) [06:10]
diana_coman: the "most men are not blind" was paraphrased on "most men are stupid, but only few of them are blind" [06:13]
mircea_popescu: lol [06:13]
usman: hahaha [06:34]
mircea_popescu: lol. [06:34]
mircea_popescu: no telling him jokes on fridays! [06:34]
usman: can you tell me how to create an account for eulora? [06:35]
usman: i have followed every step on the wiki [06:35]
mircea_popescu: do you have your pgp key ? [06:36]
usman: yes [06:36]
mircea_popescu: sec [06:36]
mircea_popescu: did you register it with deedbot ? [06:37]
usman: key id is the pgp key ?? right ? [06:37]
mircea_popescu: it's like : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-27#1573643 [06:37]
lobbesbot: Title: tmsr (at btcbase.org) [06:37]
usman: what is this ? [06:39]
mircea_popescu: that's how you register [06:39]
usman: i try again [06:40]
Framedragger: (that wotpaste link expired but it's archived here just in case -- it contains an example of what kind of thing deedbot expects: https://archive.is/Tilgt#selection-9.55-9.250 ) [06:41]
mircea_popescu: basically, the pubkey [06:41]
usman: done with the key but didn't understand the deedbot registration part [06:46]
mircea_popescu: do you have your pubkey ? [06:46]
usman: it is confusing me so much [06:46]
usman: yes i have pubkey [06:48]
Framedragger: you probably need to submit it to keyservers. [06:48]
mircea_popescu: so put it in http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/ then give it to deedbot [06:49]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger nah we have own keyserver nao [06:49]
Framedragger: ah right! so deedbot can be pointed to a specific pubkey like that, right right.. [06:49]
usman: already done that but now how to give it to deedbot? [06:50]
mircea_popescu: /query deedbot [06:50]
usman: is this cmd command ? [06:50]
mircea_popescu: yeah you type it in here. [06:51]
usman: i have give a key to deedbot. what should i do now? [06:56]
mircea_popescu: did it say it's registered ? [06:56]
usman: nothing [06:57]
mircea_popescu: you didn't do it right. [06:57]
usman: !!register<> is this the part of the key or not ?? [06:58]
mircea_popescu: yes., [06:58]
usman: !!register <i have placed pubkey in this section> [06:59]
mircea_popescu: you mean link to it ? like in the example i gave you ? [06:59]
usman: now it said import failed for usman [07:00]
mircea_popescu: what did you tell it ? paste here [07:00]
usman: !!register <-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFhPqhMBCADAMoW59ohImWRZmF6rLxGVv1a0HLvcSVdSI+LUjz1VQb+v7iG8 F2WXtxHy69eG8VIQvfAGV6HkoypbaCGWaJw4IQzQWVyr5Z73dTmH8rNWki3Gl8j5 8mIRuX1iAbws0JoFBM+H1kemNVdC7lAIm25J/Xn+qKTXeWXCGKrzydxMUQZmWPSH Nc0BM24zHSYDoOnI22tqUWfovWuYXH/KZrnEGj1AtyWqCdIMiPBIjf65levXkmG8 BqdlaoXjFYebNHmMACO52i3JjMchPJscJbw1lpVrhTI/2AcVoNXTrrzXrQdaLlfW 5ccNiO+zJXLmmnglbr5w+Eo6Lhbi0YBvlUfLABEBAAG0JH [07:00]
mircea_popescu: does that look like the example i showed you ? [07:01]
usman: can you show me again example please.. [07:02]
mircea_popescu: it's like : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-27#1573643 [07:03]
lobbesbot: Title: tmsr (at btcbase.org) [07:03]
usman: registered as usman [07:05]
mircea_popescu: aha! [07:05]
mircea_popescu: nicely done usman [07:06]
mircea_popescu: just gime me a minute i'll set you up. [07:06]
usman: now how to get username and pass [07:06]
usman: ok [07:06]
mircea_popescu: usman http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/fQlsZ/?raw=true [07:08]
usman: now what to do with this? [07:10]
mircea_popescu: you decrypt it [07:12]
mircea_popescu: use same program that made your key, it has a decrypt function somewhere. [07:12]
usman: ok ok [07:12]
usman: thank you thank you thank you [07:16]
mircea_popescu: :)! [07:16]
mircea_popescu: so did you make it in ? [07:21]
usman: yes sir [07:37]
mircea_popescu: oddly i don't see you, what's your name ? [07:41]
usman: usman [07:49]
usman: usman khan [07:49]
mircea_popescu: ah therre you are! [07:50]
mircea_popescu: come meet me i'll give you a few things. [07:50]
diana_coman: welcome to the game usman [07:58]
usman: i am just walking and walking [07:59]
mircea_popescu: i can't dance... i can't sing... [07:59]
diana_coman: heh, go up the hill to the town and get some stuff; you can /explore anyway [07:59]
mircea_popescu: only thing about me is the way that i waaalk! [07:59]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman are you in town ? [07:59]
diana_coman: I can log back in again for a bit [07:59]
diana_coman: so yeah [07:59]
usman: ok [08:00]
mircea_popescu: give him some tools / cft / lbn on my account. [08:00]
diana_coman: ok [08:00]
mircea_popescu: im out at teh grass spot [08:00]
diana_coman: hm, will see if I still have any tools, lol; cft + lbn though I have for sure [08:00]
mircea_popescu: justafew [08:00]
diana_coman: 20 bits 232q, 65 cft 115q, 1 hoe 14.3 durability [08:02]
mircea_popescu: nice ty [08:02]
diana_coman: usman, come and trade Foxy [08:02]
usman: how ? [08:02]
diana_coman: do you see Foxy? [08:03]
diana_coman: do a /pilot 174 57 159 [08:03]
diana_coman: and then walk until you see her [08:03]
diana_coman: then right click on her and click on the trade (bag) button [08:03]
usman: how to do this pilot ?? [08:04]
diana_coman: type in game's window there : /pilot 174 57 159 [08:04]
diana_coman: it will point your character towards where foxy currently is [08:05]
usman: ok [08:05]
diana_coman: if you are by the shipwreck/sand, just come up the hill on your left [08:07]
diana_coman: (on the left as you come out of the water) [08:07]
diana_coman: usman, accept [08:09]
diana_coman: ugh usman [08:09]
diana_coman: accept, NOT cancel [08:09]
usman: how to accept :P [08:10]
diana_coman: one last chance [08:10]
diana_coman: trade foxy [08:10]
diana_coman: the bag button at the left, bottom [08:10]
mircea_popescu: usman bottom left butto nin window [08:10]
mircea_popescu: looks like a bag [08:10]
mircea_popescu: we need better buttons for trade [08:10]
diana_coman: usman, trade... [08:10]
diana_coman: there, well done [08:11]
diana_coman: use them wisely [08:11]
usman: ok ok [08:12]
usman: what is our mission to do?? i am not understanding [08:13]
mircea_popescu: usman you can mine for resources ; and craft items (if you have blueprints) [08:13]
EDLionX: um [08:25]
EDLionX: hey guys [08:25]
mircea_popescu: hey [08:25]
EDLionX: what's cooking [08:25]
mircea_popescu: not much [08:26]
mircea_popescu: usman is new :) [08:26]
EDLionX: cool [08:28]
EDLionX: whats he doing [08:28]
usman: hello edlionx [08:28]
EDLionX: hey usman [08:28]
EDLionX: hows your as- i mean how's things? [08:28]
usman: just walking all around :D [08:30]
EDLionX: great [08:30]
EDLionX: hey is fiverr down? [08:30]
EDLionX: cant get to the site [08:31]
EDLionX: it 404'd on me, weird [08:32]
usman: yes here too [08:34]
usman: 404 error [08:34]
mircea_popescu: lol you brought it down [08:34]
usman: hahaha [08:35]
EDLionX: oh thank god [08:38]
EDLionX: thought i was ip banned or something [08:38]
usman: relax relax [08:39]
EDLionX: i wonder where are the other fiverr "kids" [08:43]
usman: will be back in a hour [08:43]
EDLionX: !~eu town [09:46]
jhvh1: EDLionX: Error: "eu" is not a valid command. [09:46]
EDLionX: !~eu.town [09:46]
jhvh1: Town is located @ 176, 56, 161 [09:46]
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun [09:49]
EDLionX: dun [09:52]
EDLionX: is daniel here? [09:52]
EDLionX: ive done his work [09:52]
EDLionX: danielpbarron [09:52]
EDLionX: so much grass [09:53]
mircea_popescu: o hey well done. [09:53]
EDLionX: 3200 weight's worth of grass [09:59]
EDLionX: how much money does that net me [10:00]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what's your deal with danielpbarron ? [10:02]
EDLionX: eh? dunno, just openinng his grass claims [10:05]
EDLionX: not sure how many percent would he give me [10:05]
EDLionX: now im just stuck here, heavy a.f., waiting for him [10:07]
mircea_popescu: so tablewalk to town [10:07]
EDLionX: i am in town [10:08]
EDLionX: :D [10:08]
mircea_popescu: ah [10:08]
EDLionX: he's not online, is he? [10:08]
mircea_popescu: lol you should start charging port fees. [10:09]
EDLionX: how do i check who's online and who's not? [10:09]
mircea_popescu: /who [10:09]
mircea_popescu: but you know, he could be online but afk [10:09]
EDLionX: haha [10:09]
EDLionX: yeah he's online all right [10:09]
EDLionX: oh well [10:09]
EDLionX: just gotta wait for him [10:10]
mircea_popescu: go like "dawg, ytou had my harvester stuck here, it's 1k ecu/hour!" [10:10]
EDLionX: just like a good jew [10:10]
EDLionX: huh am i allowed to say that [10:10]
EDLionX: I'll just assume i can [10:11]
mircea_popescu: :p [10:11]
EDLionX: oh yeah [10:13]
EDLionX: whos grenadine? [10:13]
EDLionX: oh wait grenadine is hanbot! [10:14]
EDLionX: huh! [10:14]
hanbot: mhm [10:15]
EDLionX: eek [10:15]
EDLionX: how come ure just standing there 24/7? [10:16]
mircea_popescu: prolly crafting [10:17]
hanbot: i'm usually sacrificing or repairing these days. i mine a fair amount, but not so much these days. [10:17]
mircea_popescu: did i win yet btw hanbot ? [10:17]
hanbot: auction ends midnight tonight, and you currently have the high bid at 12mn. [10:18]
mircea_popescu: oh ended up with 13 as a hour in my head [10:18]
EDLionX: wow [10:18]
hanbot: 13 as in the date. you famished for tokens? :D [10:19]
EDLionX: how does one even get to a mn? [10:19]
mircea_popescu: EDLionX i had... check this out... 10 BILLION. [10:19]
EDLionX: ouch [10:19]
hanbot: EDLionX you ever seen the top? (type /show top in game) [10:19]
EDLionX: i just did [10:20]
EDLionX: how do you loot 8.1 mn worth of stuff is beyond me [10:20]
hanbot: well if we knew exactly how to do it (at a profit ofc) we'd do nothin' but ;p [10:21]
EDLionX: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [10:22]
mircea_popescu: EDLionX it's random, iirc the top loot came from danielpbarron building one small. [10:22]
mircea_popescu: and he got like whatever, 100mn [10:22]
hanbot: keep playing, you'll pop. helps if you give yourself more coppers to work with naturally. [10:22]
EDLionX: dammit [10:22]
EDLionX: finding claims is prolly harder than mining bitcoins [10:22]
hanbot: imagines finding a block 4/5ths of attempts if only she wore a cruddy hoe in her hand, froths at the mouth. [10:24]
mircea_popescu: EDLionX certainly not, you have any idea how long it would take a computer to dig up a bitcoin ? [10:24]
EDLionX: i know im just joking but oh well ill bit [10:25]
EDLionX: bite* [10:25]
EDLionX: how long? [10:25]
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> ;;genrate 1 [10:25]
mircea_popescu: <gribble> The expected generation output, at 1.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 2.86765766821e+11, is 8.41785023935e-10 BTC per day and 3.50743759973e-11 BTC per hour. [10:25]
mircea_popescu: about one billion days, turns out. [10:25]
mircea_popescu: provided the computer in question spits out 1mhps, which i very much doubt. [10:25]
EDLionX: heh? [10:26]
EDLionX: but thats just 1mbps right? [10:26]
mircea_popescu: no it's Mhps [10:26]
EDLionX: oh oops [10:26]
EDLionX: oh [10:27]
EDLionX: now i see it [10:27]
mircea_popescu: cpus do more like 50-200 Khps ; graphics cards can maybe touch 1/4 - 1/2 Mhps per [10:27]
EDLionX: huh then howd you mine bitcoins nowadays? [10:27]
mircea_popescu: special hardware. [10:27]
mircea_popescu: like, purpose built processors. [10:27]
EDLionX: hmmmm [10:28]
EDLionX: then with specialised mining rigs, how long would one mine one up? [10:28]
mircea_popescu: well depends on the rig of course. [10:28]
EDLionX: sure [10:29]
mircea_popescu: but a computer sized unit eats like 2kW and makes maybe a few bitcents/hour [10:29]
EDLionX: what about like, the absolute best [10:29]
EDLionX: ah [10:29]
EDLionX: so theres the electricity bill to think about as well [10:30]
mircea_popescu: yep. [10:30]
mircea_popescu: kinda why mining by cpu and gpu is no longer done. [10:30]
EDLionX: i see [10:31]
EDLionX: is googling bitcoin mining machines [10:31]
mircea_popescu: just like a good chinese person :D [10:32]
EDLionX: damn, those setups must have cost a fortune [10:32]
EDLionX: yesh [10:32]
EDLionX: ching chong to the ling long [10:32]
EDLionX: wow [10:32]
mircea_popescu: yes, peoplespent billions of dollars on bitcoin mining rigs. [10:33]
EDLionX: antminer s5 mines 1.16TH/s [10:33]
EDLionX: pomg [10:33]
EDLionX: Antminer S9 14.0 TH/s [10:33]
mircea_popescu: well yeah [10:34]
EDLionX: how does one even make that kinda machine [10:34]
mircea_popescu: exactly the same way intel / amd / nvidia etc make their chips [10:34]
EDLionX: hmmm! [10:34]
mircea_popescu: there's three major types of processor these days : cpu ; gpu and bm. [10:35]
EDLionX: bm? [10:36]
EDLionX: i just read that chinese companies are making a fortune mining bitcoins [10:36]
EDLionX: something about their cheap electricity [10:37]
mircea_popescu: eh, reports may be exaggerated. [10:37]
EDLionX: I guess [10:37]
EDLionX: you would know all about them wouldnt you mircea [10:37]
EDLionX: well i can't argue with that [10:40]
EDLionX: this guys on fiverr just crying to me now saying he cant do it anymore [10:40]
EDLionX: oh well [10:40]
mircea_popescu: the one who logged in ? [10:41]
mircea_popescu: you should give him his 5 bux, he did ok [10:41]
EDLionX: nah another guy [10:41]
EDLionX: the usman guy is still on for another 6 days i think [10:42]
mircea_popescu: are you having fun ? [10:42]
EDLionX: me? [10:42]
mircea_popescu: yea you [10:42]
EDLionX: im having fun just chatting with you [10:43]
EDLionX: so yeah [10:43]
mircea_popescu: lol cool [10:43]
EDLionX: i guess [10:43]
EDLionX: learning about stuff is neat [10:43]
EDLionX: but kinda hard cuz im too much of a newb [10:43]
EDLionX: though i can't play for long because family/work stuff [10:44]
mircea_popescu: dja live with your parents ? [10:44]
EDLionX: now? yeah [10:45]
EDLionX: just taking care of my mom [10:45]
mircea_popescu: ah [10:45]
EDLionX: she had a stroke some months ago [10:45]
mircea_popescu: tsk. [10:45]
EDLionX: my siblings are all still studying, so as the elest son i had to do what i had to do [10:46]
mircea_popescu: was it the first ? [10:46]
EDLionX: aye [10:46]
EDLionX: came as a shock really [10:46]
EDLionX: i was livin in taiwan [10:46]
EDLionX: gotta pack and come back [10:47]
mircea_popescu: well, the good news is that often people recuperate very well after 1st stroke [10:47]
mircea_popescu: just have to put the entire day in exercises etc. [10:47]
EDLionX: yeah she's doing better than we though [10:47]
EDLionX: thank god [10:47]
EDLionX: and she's teaching me how to cook [10:47]
EDLionX: which is pretty neat [10:48]
EDLionX: well enough about me [10:48]
EDLionX: imma just gonna go take a shower [10:49]
mircea_popescu: ah man, i almost dragged myself back out from under my mountain of lbn! [15:56]
danielpbarron: !~later tell EDLionX sorry i missed you. ping me next time you're around [18:00]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded. [18:00]
danielpbarron: hanbot, 13mn [19:05]
hanbot: AUCTION: pack of 20x inconsequential sacrifice tokens q347. 13mn heard danielpbarron , auction ends midnight december 13th AST. ~3hrs. [19:07]
EDLionX_: how odd [21:17]
hanbot: danielpbarron, a winner is you. ping for pickup w/e. [22:01]
EDLionX_: is danielpbarron even online [22:37]
EDLionX_: i cant get to him [22:37]
EDLionX_: i has his grass [22:37]
hanbot: EDLionX_ most people stay in the channel(s) 24/7, but that doesn't mean they're at their desk/looking at w/e gadget 24/7. danielpbarron is pretty active, hang tight and he'll see your highlight whenever he's back. [23:43]

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