#eulora Logs for 04 Nov 2016



November 4th, 2016 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: ahaha, that "pop" was simply...the scaffolding itself, lol [03:40]
diana_coman: yay, tokens! hanbot , you around? [03:41]
diana_coman: !~calc 7Ã\u00972.05Ã\u00973780+3Ã\u00971.5Ã\u009759+3Ã\u00973.21Ã\u009787556+18Ã\u00971.5Ã\u009758+29034Ã\u00975 [04:30]
jhvh1: diana_coman: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [04:30]
diana_coman: !~calc 7*2.05*3780+3*1.5*59+3*3.21*87556+18*1.5*58+29034*5 [04:30]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 7*2.05*3780+3*1.5*59+3*3.21*87556+18*1.5*58+29034*5 = 1044408.7799999999 [04:30]
diana_coman: so the us basically costs 1mn at bv even ignoring that there are no bps going around at all [04:33]
Birdman: Yeah you'll get a pop at over 1mn bv even if you worked at a loss i found [06:12]
mircea_popescu: sure, it only cares how much you get, not how oyu got there [06:20]
mircea_popescu: congrats to foxy and me :D [10:49]
mircea_popescu: course i did spend 10mn bv to get 6, but what can you do. [10:49]
diana_coman: the 6mn which cost 10mn, lol [11:41]
diana_coman: I did a cs run on pss: so far 75 cs -> 6 ord + 1 remark [11:41]
diana_coman: but anyways if your eps remark was 4mn initially, it actually did increase to 6mn after the build, right? [11:43]
diana_coman: and anyways it seems my remark is half of yours to start with, lol [11:43]
hanbot: diana_coman i'm around for a while for tokens etc [11:54]
diana_coman: yay, I'll finish this stick and come to town then hanbot [11:54]
mircea_popescu: remark is pretty good though. that was the pop ? [11:55]
mircea_popescu: re eps remark : the pop was 5mn for the stick, i spent 5mn and change for the bundle. so like 10. [11:56]
diana_coman: yes, my pop 0.2 was the pss remark [11:59]
mircea_popescu: so it paid for the whole cs run just there [11:59]
diana_coman: trouble is this "value" of a stick in the mud is most problematic [11:59]
diana_coman: I suppose one could sell it based on this pop [11:59]
mircea_popescu: myeah [11:59]
diana_coman: other than that though there is no way to "get it" as such [12:00]
mircea_popescu: hey, fair is fair, bv of 2.14mn [12:00]
mircea_popescu: one of the advantages of the top : lets one price the higher valued mining claims [12:00]
mircea_popescu: im certainly willing to pay 3mn cash for it. [12:00]
diana_coman: it is an advantatge of the top indeed; I'm not sure I'm yet at selling remarks, esp non-lumber ones [12:01]
mircea_popescu: aite. [12:02]
diana_coman: anyways, I'm gathering pss for that potential run making ma [12:02]
diana_coman: after making any toils you can sell/supply waters for, lol [12:02]
mircea_popescu: you got bps ? [12:02]
diana_coman: I'll check exactly, but I remember I had ; I stopped on that only because of lack of water/ horribly expensive water from daniel (I even used that but it really was too much) [12:04]
mircea_popescu: and also i'll have to supply the dusts i imagine [12:05]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm looking at making 1-200 waters or so, will aim for higher q. [12:05]
mircea_popescu: so far almost done with ibs for qf [12:05]
diana_coman: perhaps we can agree on fair prices for numina and waters and then just do it as any usual trades rather than a special thing that can get more complicated [12:07]
diana_coman: hanbot, I'm in town [12:07]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how to price numina [12:08]
diana_coman: myeah, that's what I keep pondering re those mites even, lol [12:08]
mircea_popescu: and i certainly can't afford any loss in water pressure in the cycle\ [12:08]
diana_coman: do you have any shards btw? [12:08]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [12:08]
diana_coman: what do you want for them? [12:08]
hanbot: diana_coman cool, hit me [12:08]
mircea_popescu: lemme see what i got [12:08]
diana_coman: thank you hanbot ! [12:09]
hanbot: thankya kindly :) [12:09]
mircea_popescu: so i got 5k q 99. that serve you ? [12:09]
diana_coman: better than none and if I am to get ma bps I need probably to click quite a lot of cons [12:10]
mircea_popescu: that should be enough for 5 clicks. anyway, what do you think is fair for lvl2 numina ? 250\% say ? [12:10]
diana_coman: are you fine to pay the same for the mites? [12:11]
mircea_popescu: certainly. [12:11]
diana_coman: on numina I really have no idea how to price since I couldn't even do enough runs of toils to see where it would be at [12:11]
mircea_popescu: i fear the mites may end up costing more though. 1 toil only makes 21 [12:11]
diana_coman: funnily enough it's precisely toils of bouq that I have more than the rest, lol [12:12]
mircea_popescu: nice. what q ? [12:13]
diana_coman: some 579q? [12:13]
diana_coman: lol [12:13]
mircea_popescu: o sweet jesus. that... that may be too much lol [12:13]
diana_coman: I have some lower ones too, so I can mix, yeah [12:13]
diana_coman: plus if I click cons, I might get more seeing how they are for lappy [12:13]
mircea_popescu: i got 1k q 150, we should prolly mix [12:13]
diana_coman: I have some at 139q too [12:14]
diana_coman: but if I need to lower below what I can do, I'll ask you for sure [12:14]
mircea_popescu: ah ok then mix those. i'm thinking i'll want you to use bps in the 2-300 range, depending what q i end up making these waters [12:14]
diana_coman: I guess it's best if you tell me what sort of q of output you want [12:14]
diana_coman: and I'll let you know if I need help to adjust to that [12:15]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (100*5.79 + 100*1.39)/(100+100) [12:15]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (100*5.79 + 100*1.39)/(100+100) = 3.59 [12:15]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (100*5.79 + 200*1.39)/(100+200) [12:15]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (100*5.79 + 200*1.39)/(100+200) = 2.856666666666667 [12:15]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i generally want "as high as possible", but the main concern is to you know, avoid waste in the process. [12:16]
diana_coman: it seems all toils actually make 21 only, not more [12:16]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [12:16]
diana_coman: so then all lvl2 numina would end up quite the same, it's not that only mites would be more expensive, isn't it? [12:17]
mircea_popescu: well, you can also loot them\ [12:17]
mircea_popescu: which i imagine would be cheaper. so depending what \% of the supply is looted vs crafted, i imagine they'd go for diff prices [12:18]
diana_coman: supposedly you can even loot them while doing the toils if oc? [12:18]
mircea_popescu: the lapidary yes [12:18]
diana_coman: ah, right, only the shards [12:18]
diana_coman: hm [12:18]
mircea_popescu: the mites i mostly looted doing lbn, but now out of wos [12:18]
diana_coman: ouch, that's a huge problem [12:18]
mircea_popescu: yeah we gotta loot some wos bps [12:18]
diana_coman: I kind of preserved my wos as much as I could; used it only to click cons [12:18]
diana_coman: not for lbn [12:18]
mircea_popescu: i still have a little, but that's the point : can't really go into lbn frenzies anymoar. [12:19]
diana_coman: but yeah, that's why I bought those full stacks of lbn from you some time ago, lol [12:19]
mircea_popescu: iirc hanbot did too. [12:19]
diana_coman: (which by the way are mostly gone) [12:19]
mircea_popescu: whoever did, got it, whoever didn't will be pickling keys, i guess. [12:19]
mircea_popescu: of course... maybe grenadine repairs the wos lol. [12:20]
diana_coman: actually we should ideally loot bp for her grimy thing [12:21]
diana_coman: come to think about it [12:21]
mircea_popescu: well the plan here is pretty much ima do some bouq clicks see maybe i get the higher level bouq cons. if i do, we're made. [12:22]
diana_coman: I suppose that's why she is rather reluctant to repair something other than her altar, namely that her toolkit wears down too [12:22]
mircea_popescu: yup. [12:22]
diana_coman: I suppose one can't repair the toolkit with the toolkit, lol [12:22]
diana_coman: that'd be fun [12:22]
mircea_popescu: well how, there's only one. [12:23]
mircea_popescu: what did she end up paying for it i forget, like 200\% ? [12:23]
diana_coman: aha, plan sounds goof; meanwhile I'll go dig those pss out anyways; and I'll take for now those shards you have since I need to click some lappy cons anyway [12:23]
mircea_popescu: total fucking steal lol. [12:23]
mircea_popescu: alrighty lemme fish them out. [12:23]
diana_coman: good for her and maybe for everyone else too since any higher price would anyway get translated into higher price for tokens [12:24]
mircea_popescu: guess so yeah. [12:24]
mircea_popescu: o look cordages. damn. [12:25]
diana_coman: uat? [12:26]
mircea_popescu: in the flagons [12:26]
diana_coman: hm [12:26]
mircea_popescu: ima have to make some high q of those too [12:26]
diana_coman: I have only 145 cordages left of my stocks and they are 126q only so prolly not much help [12:26]
diana_coman: but that's a lot of cft you need to eat up then [12:26]
mircea_popescu: myeah ;/ [12:29]
mircea_popescu: there goes my high q bct stock. i was saving it for a... well for a day just like this [12:30]
mircea_popescu: q 519 cc. BECAUSE I CAN. [12:33]
diana_coman: can-cordages, the new craze [12:42]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, got those shards now or we trade later? [12:47]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman now ? [13:46]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman qf q 777 [15:07]
mircea_popescu: there's ss and ppb going into the wa. i can get my own ppb, but do you have ss q 500+ ? [15:20]
diana_coman: not such quantities of ss at that q; I can do another run of cs on ss but even that is unlikely to get a stack of ss; possibly hanbot gets a lot of ss at that q from sacrificing; [15:48]
mircea_popescu: ah i don't need a stack [15:51]
mircea_popescu: i only want say 200 ss q 500+ so if you hit it with sticks and then 7thread on high q threads the smalls you'll fix me up. [15:52]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but ready for the shards ? [15:52]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 5181 * 1000 * .99 * 2.5 [15:52]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 5181 * 1000 * .99 * 2.5 = 12822975 [15:52]
diana_coman: on my way to town [15:52]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 200 * 1165 * 5.5 * 3 [15:53]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 200 * 1165 * 5.5 * 3 = 3844500 [15:53]
mircea_popescu: even 200 is a pretty penny check that out [15:53]
diana_coman: ah, 200 of those, yes [15:54]
diana_coman: thanks [15:54]
diana_coman: at 2.5, yeah [15:54]
mircea_popescu: at 3 even [15:54]
mircea_popescu: dang i ran out of head chairs [16:09]
diana_coman: lol [16:09]
mircea_popescu: whoa needs more ... btc. and flotsam. jesus [16:09]
diana_coman: btc? [16:10]
mircea_popescu: bct [16:10]
diana_coman: ahahaha [16:10]
mircea_popescu: i had stacks of flotsam [16:10]
mircea_popescu: and now... i don't. [16:10]
diana_coman: I just started a cs so can't really check much [16:11]
diana_coman: I might even still have some chairs [16:11]
mircea_popescu: that's ok im making a dozen [16:11]
diana_coman: a, thought you didn't have flotsam to make them even [16:11]
diana_coman: cool then [16:11]
mircea_popescu: i kinda learned that lesson the hard way, i never empty the stores completely now [16:11]
mircea_popescu: as in that ro joke, "mai am asa, putin, pe fund" [16:12]
diana_coman: ahaha, quite [16:12]
hanbot: diana_coman> not such quantities of ss at that q; I can do another run of cs on ss but even that is unlikely to get a stack of ss; possibly hanbot gets a lot of ss at that q from sacrificing; << not unless someone has like q11tymn moss to sell me ;p [20:53]
mircea_popescu: looks [20:54]
mircea_popescu: though... nah all i got is lowish q [20:55]
mircea_popescu: but listen, isn't it mostly the wine ? [20:55]
hanbot: it is, and since the highest i have is ~q200, i'd need nutso high moss to compensate [20:55]
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem too likely. [20:56]

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