#eulora Logs for 03 Nov 2016

November 3rd, 2016 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: weirdly enough despite all cries about cft, there is no demand even for that; anyways: [03:30]
diana_coman: AUCTION: 1320 TLC 230q 10mn heard mircea_popescu; 700 cft 262q opening bid 660k; closing Nov 3rd 8pm GMT [03:30]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, t'was a remark [03:31]
shinohai: diana_coman 660k on the cft [06:13]
diana_coman: AUCTION: 1320 TLC 230q 10mn heard mircea_popescu; 700 cft 262q 660k heard shinohai ; closing Nov 3rd 8pm GMT [06:13]
diana_coman: what q do you get on grass nowadays shinohai ? [06:13]
shinohai: Haven't had any to make lately, sold you all I had. [06:14]
diana_coman: ok, want to build 1 ord for me? [06:14]
shinohai: Sure lemme log in here. [06:15]
diana_coman: good luck with it [06:17]
shinohai: thanx diana_coman [06:18]
diana_coman: !~calc 0.1*2340*60*1.04*1.5 [06:33]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 0.1*2340*60*1.04*1.5 = 21902.4 [06:33]
diana_coman: not bad at all, thanks! [06:33]
shinohai: q104 heh [06:33]
diana_coman: my enum bumps up your quality too [06:34]
diana_coman: but it's anyway good since I am totally out of anything below 200q [06:34]
shinohai: And I only died once instead of 4 times this round! [06:34]
diana_coman: ahaahha [06:34]
diana_coman: getting the hang of it [06:34]
shinohai: yeah ... keep forgetting about "The Glow" on the way back though [06:37]
shinohai: get burned every. single. time. [06:37]
diana_coman: lol! [06:43]
diana_coman: it is basically... at the end of the world sort of [06:44]
mircea_popescu: ohohoh left it working snails overnight, 13 ords + 1 remark! [07:05]
shinohai: Nice one! [07:05]
mircea_popescu: yep, 4.98mn pop [07:07]
diana_coman: wow, congrats [07:07]
mircea_popescu: >D [07:08]
mircea_popescu: it's really nice to come back to a forest of ord keys i tell you that. [07:17]
diana_coman: heh, it is indeed [07:17]
mircea_popescu: btw, diana_coman hanbot you won, meet me in town in about half hour to settle ? [07:17]
diana_coman: I am in town, lol [07:17]
mircea_popescu: aite i just wanna let this run finish, few sticks left. [07:18]
diana_coman: I'll go afk in about 5 min so laters [07:18]
mircea_popescu: aite. [07:19]
mircea_popescu: so the way i figure this, i'm pretty much guaranteed to pop on those snails - again! [07:46]
hanbot: so i make technicolor dreamcoats at piddly 30k quality. i'ma need several, high q preferably, over the course of repairing, make me some mircea_popescu? [15:30]
mircea_popescu: alright lemme look into it. [15:31]
mircea_popescu: boy dat snail remark bundle is 5mn [15:37]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tzzg9/?raw=true [15:55]
mircea_popescu: ahh that sweet sweet moment when you get 100+ snails from an ord [16:15]
diana_coman: nice [16:16]
shinohai: Did auction end yet? [16:42]
mircea_popescu: mine ? surely. [16:43]
mircea_popescu: ended yest just gotta get the gals lined up for delivery. [16:43]
shinohai: nah I meant diana_coman 's [16:46]
diana_coman: AUCTION: 1320 TLC 230q 10mn heard mircea_popescu; 700 cft 262q 660k heard shinohai <- closed, come pick up [16:48]
diana_coman: indeed shinohai , it ended :) [16:48]
mircea_popescu: im coming to town diana_coman [16:48]
shinohai: \o/ [16:49]
diana_coman: foxy's in town shaving splinters or what is that [16:49]
shinohai: Do I just come trade w/ you? [16:50]
diana_coman: aha, gimme 1 min to take them out of storage [16:50]
shinohai: kk no rush [16:50]
diana_coman: trade me shinohai [16:51]
mircea_popescu: 23.5-10 = 13.5 [16:52]
diana_coman: do you have change? [16:52]
mircea_popescu: happens i do [16:52]
diana_coman: thank you [16:53]
mircea_popescu: thankee [16:53]
diana_coman: enjoy shinohai [16:53]
shinohai: ty diana_coman o/ [16:53]
shinohai: Heh that was forst auction bid I have ever won [16:54]
mircea_popescu: hanbot 29 coats q 96497 ready for pickup, bill's 6.4mn. you also got 403 wines at 67mn waitin fer ye. [16:55]
diana_coman: heh, congrats shinohai [16:55]
diana_coman: first auction won, not bad [16:55]
diana_coman: now if I get those tokens, I can do some cons, get some tm bps and finally use the cheez [17:00]
diana_coman: got tons of bods and the like and anyway bods were lapidary I think and I have highest skill in lapidary anyway [17:01]
diana_coman: so will make more wheels to do more lapidary, lol! [17:01]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:17]
mircea_popescu: im trying to make some of my own bod actually. [17:17]
diana_coman: ah, actually it's the ampoules that are lappy [17:20]
diana_coman: bod is samovar so you are prolly way better there [17:20]
mircea_popescu: im making some ampoules too. coming out q 117 which... meh! [17:21]
diana_coman: well, I have some old ones at 157q [17:22]
mircea_popescu: selling ? [17:22]
diana_coman: sure, I think they are in the shop, no? [17:22]
mircea_popescu: looks [17:23]
diana_coman: omg, I'm even selling pickaxes, lol! [17:23]
mircea_popescu: 390\% ? [17:23]
diana_coman: and myeah, I can sell a few pickaxes but not many [17:23]
diana_coman: yeah, I'll trust my previous calculations, lol [17:23]
mircea_popescu: grits his teeth [17:23]
mircea_popescu: btw you buying the lapidary numina ? [17:24]
diana_coman: hm, so far I'm still kind of out of storage space in numina really [17:26]
mircea_popescu: ah k [17:26]
shinohai: likes how snails are classified as [17:27]
diana_coman: maybe later after I get to burn with some cons [17:27]
diana_coman: and eggs are mining , shinohai :D [17:27]
shinohai: xD [17:27]
shinohai: While wpl qualifies as groceries [17:27]
diana_coman: I guess the price on lappy stuff including ampoules might come down depending on what hanbot charges for repairing a table [17:32]
diana_coman: but atm I have to go with previous calculations [17:32]
mircea_popescu: she didn't seem to excited to repair my wos [17:40]
mircea_popescu: i got quite the pile of worn ones [17:41]
mircea_popescu: btw you got bps ? [17:41]
diana_coman: wos bps? sadly no:( [17:41]
mircea_popescu: me either. [17:41]
mircea_popescu: that may turn pretty fuckin tight. [17:41]
diana_coman: still have some wheel bps but that's all [17:42]
diana_coman: indeed [17:42]
mircea_popescu: no wos no lbn [17:42]
mircea_popescu: and what's worse - no lbn, no bouq cons clicking [17:43]
diana_coman: that's the worse, the no cons [17:45]
mircea_popescu: mhm. [17:46]
diana_coman: tbh I suspect that wos bps in fact cannot be obtained with what cons we saw so far [17:58]
diana_coman: wos is mcguyver and the apprentice mcguyver cons stopped well below the 40k that the wos bp would be [17:58]
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess ima have to do a run of app book cons clicking to see maybe i manage better [17:59]
mircea_popescu: anyone got uber high q mites ? [17:59]
mircea_popescu: ohohoho wait wait, i have a path via toils. [18:04]
mircea_popescu: ooookay, ima be doing this then. [18:04]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman if i supply the poc, are you making ma ? [18:06]
diana_coman: what deal do you have in mind exactly? [18:07]
mircea_popescu: i dunno. but i should be making bod but not really ma. [18:07]
mircea_popescu: did a test run, am nonplussed with results. [18:07]
mircea_popescu: and this is using q 332 ps ;/ [18:08]
diana_coman: I'd be quite happy to make ma, yes [18:08]
diana_coman: quite ouch indeed [18:08]
mircea_popescu: what's it take 2 poc 17 pss ? [18:09]
diana_coman: yes [18:09]
diana_coman: and 1 bp, obv [18:10]
mircea_popescu: well think about it get back to me ? [18:10]
diana_coman: what quantity do you have in mind? [18:10]
mircea_popescu: i could make 1k+ poc [18:11]
diana_coman: 17k pssl would clearly need a remark first, lol [18:13]
mircea_popescu: aha. [18:14]
mircea_popescu: well, 500 * 17 so only about a stack pss needed [18:14]
diana_coman: !~calc 17*262*1.8 + 2273*4.94 +1345*10 [18:15]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 17*262*1.8 + 2273*4.94 +1345*10 = 32695.82 [18:15]
diana_coman: that's an estimate of what 1 single click costs at current market prices for what goes in, ignoring the pocc entirely since it's yours [18:19]
mircea_popescu: well if you're gonna charge it at 1.8 i'd rather supply the pss myself. [18:19]
diana_coman: don't you buy it at 1.8? [18:20]
mircea_popescu: i thought i sold it at hm lemme see [18:20]
mircea_popescu: ah right not a basic. kay. [18:20]
diana_coman: you are selling it at 1.95 lol [18:20]
mircea_popescu: ya lol. [18:20]
mircea_popescu: im actually kinda tempted to do a large pss run and see if i can sell some [18:20]
diana_coman: I'm not going to pay 1.95 on it [18:20]
mircea_popescu: im chronically short on pss somehow. [18:21]
diana_coman: but I'm fine if you supply that too, I don't mind [18:21]
diana_coman: well, I just used a ton to make cs [18:21]
mircea_popescu: there is that yeah. [18:21]
mircea_popescu: im making q 147 bod. [18:22]
diana_coman: that's where my pss goes mainly [18:22]
mircea_popescu: considering how shitty my bps are, i count this as an accomplishment. [18:22]
mircea_popescu: anyway diana_coman this fixed cost thing doesn't really account for qualities you know ? [18:25]
mircea_popescu: so it costs 32.7k per click to make... what q md ? [18:25]
diana_coman: this is all at bv [18:25]
mircea_popescu: well the wheel'd better be at bv lol. [18:26]
diana_coman: ? [18:26]
mircea_popescu: 2273*4.94 < [18:26]
diana_coman: that's the decay, 2273 [18:26]
mircea_popescu: right. [18:27]
diana_coman: and 4.94 is the current markup for the wheel [18:27]
mircea_popescu: yes, and it's always bv. [18:27]
mircea_popescu: but anyway - so out of a bundle what q you get a md what q ? [18:27]
diana_coman: lemme see [18:27]
diana_coman: it depends on bv q too though so not sure what you want to find out [18:28]
mircea_popescu: an' what q would teh bps be [18:28]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman bv q ? whassat ? [18:28]
diana_coman: bp* [18:28]
mircea_popescu: right. [18:28]
diana_coman: bps would be just as shitty as it's only at 50q what I have for the quantity you want [18:30]
mircea_popescu: ouch huh [18:31]
diana_coman: do you have bps too? lol [18:31]
mircea_popescu: so did you do any crafting with these ? what sort of bundle/product q did you see ? [18:31]
mircea_popescu: i have a few, but they're about there too. [18:31]
diana_coman: lemme dig out a skullcap and do this bundle I still have somehow [18:31]
mircea_popescu: kk [18:31]
diana_coman: btw if you supply everything (bps, pss, pocc), I'll provide the ampoules only and I'm fine to do it for the cost of decay only [18:36]
diana_coman: so made ampoule with bp 50q, bundle 233 -> 124q, sigh [18:37]
mircea_popescu: hahaha [18:37]
mircea_popescu: so basically this is a way to get ... numina [18:37]
diana_coman: it is [18:38]
mircea_popescu: well... sux [18:38]
diana_coman: do you prefer to pay instead and keep the numina or what? [18:38]
diana_coman: yeah, the q sucks [18:38]
mircea_popescu: i guess im just gonna make the poc and sell it at some point [18:38]
diana_coman: I really used much higher q bundles, I think this is why this one remained; plus some higher q bps of which I just don't have enough anymore atm [18:38]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well the problem is, paying (in bps, and in tool decay) for the priviledge of turning 100q points of stuff with a \% of 180+ into stuff that doesn;t sell for 105\% is iffy [18:39]
diana_coman: I think you are mixing something there [18:40]
diana_coman: the stuff 105\% I take it to be numina, right? [18:40]
mircea_popescu: yeah [18:40]
diana_coman: so then how are you paying in bps and tool decay? [18:40]
diana_coman: or you mean that making it sucks [18:40]
diana_coman: true, I see [18:40]
mircea_popescu: well, you take 233 q points of bundle, which is stuff that goes for 200\% mark-up, and get 109q points of... numina [18:40]
mircea_popescu: basically half. [18:40]
diana_coman: myeah [18:41]
diana_coman: that's the shitty bp really [18:41]
mircea_popescu: more even, because the tool decayu also goes there. [18:41]
diana_coman: I suppose this gets unblocked when more higher q bps to mix them up [18:41]
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : since the bp is so shitty, how about i pay for the pss and you are so happy to get the xp for a large bundle that you don't charge for the rest. [18:42]
diana_coman: wait what? lol [18:42]
diana_coman: I pay for the xp with my own bp and my own table decay too? [18:42]
diana_coman: and my time ? [18:42]
diana_coman: and what else? [18:42]
mircea_popescu: hm. [18:42]
mircea_popescu: but you get 233 q points of xp, and i get 100q points of result! [18:43]
mircea_popescu: somebody's gotta pay! [18:43]
mircea_popescu: do crafting like normal people, where you take q 150 bundle, spit out q 210 product, then you're on your rights to ask for 2722$ for the bp etc. [18:43]
diana_coman: but you know, I can get those points of xp and keep the ampoules and wait until someone will pay for them something [18:43]
mircea_popescu: i guess. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: well... if you get coal, that is. [18:44]
mircea_popescu: which is why i guess the only practical thing here is for me to sell it. [18:44]
diana_coman: basically the bps at this moment are too shitty for this to work [18:46]
mircea_popescu: yeah [18:46]
diana_coman: so out of this solutions that I see would be about 2: either I get some higher q bps [18:46]
mircea_popescu: oh that's maybe a solution : do some clicks on lapidary cons. if you get the bundle say 400+ you might loot some q 300 or w/e bps [18:46]
mircea_popescu: mix with these, suddenly you got something. [18:47]
diana_coman: or otherwise I buy pocc and do my stuff and then sell the ma [18:47]
diana_coman: myeah, but waiting on the tokens, lol [18:47]
diana_coman: that's why I actually placed my bid on that: for the tokens [18:47]
mircea_popescu: what else is there in lapidary, rastrums and stuff [18:47]
diana_coman: it is for some reason that sort of buy this book and take this shit with it, but hey [18:48]
diana_coman: that's the sad thing [18:48]
diana_coman: there isn't much in lapidary still [18:48]
diana_coman: so one gets shit [18:48]
diana_coman: the numina thing [18:48]
mircea_popescu: oh and all the toils! wowza. [18:48]
diana_coman: but for that daniel has the waters [18:48]
mircea_popescu: no dude the toils are huge. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: i got water. [18:48]
diana_coman: and he doesn't even seem to be around anymore [18:48]
diana_coman: oh, you have? [18:48]
mircea_popescu: sure, i looted on cooking cons. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: i was actually preparing to do a run of toils, i didn't realise it's lapidary. [18:49]
diana_coman: wow, didn't know that; all of a sudden things look better, lol [18:49]
mircea_popescu: alright, let me get all this shit lined up and ima talk to you about that. [18:49]
mircea_popescu: toils are the sine qua non condition of unsticking the bouq cons clicking because need mites. [18:49]
diana_coman: do you have that remambrance tincture thing too? [18:51]
mircea_popescu: lemme see [18:56]
mircea_popescu: nop [18:56]
diana_coman: that's needed for those famed lvl 3 numina from what I see [18:57]
diana_coman: btw, anyone ever got one of those? [18:57]
diana_coman: livresque horrors? [18:58]
diana_coman: I have only 490 mites 295q, lol [19:06]
mircea_popescu: i got some vapors [19:24]
mircea_popescu: but like...3 [19:24]
mircea_popescu: anyway how much for teh mites ? [19:25]
hanbot: AUCTION: package of 50 Inconsequential Sacrifice Tokens, q101; 50 Doubtful Tome Doodles, q200; and 50 Giant's Rotten Canines, q1337. 60mn heard diana_coman ; ETA Thursday Nov 3rd at 23:59 ART. << only a coupla hours left [19:27]
hanbot: mircea_popescu i'll pickup coats + aw here [19:27]
mircea_popescu: cool [19:28]
mircea_popescu: sweet delishius 73 mn :D [19:29]
hanbot: thanks mr. vinterweaver [19:31]
mircea_popescu: lol my pleasure [19:33]
mircea_popescu: grats diana_coman [22:19]
hanbot: auction package goes to diana_coman - pick up at your leisure [23:02]
lobbesbot: Post from eulora: MiniGame (S.MG), October 2016 Statement <http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-october-2016-statement/> [23:22]

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