#eulora Logs for 19 Oct 2016



October 19th, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: 3096 tries went by without a hitch. now i'm going to go to bed, and watch it fucking instadie. [01:16]
diana_coman: morning all [05:10]
mircea_popescu: heya [05:41]
diana_coman: anyone selling low q grass/ [05:42]
diana_coman: ? [05:42]
mircea_popescu: guess not huh. [05:55]
diana_coman: we are kind of back to the "no-noobs" square 1 thing [05:56]
diana_coman: I suppose I will be happy that I still have q9 cft bps then [06:00]
diana_coman: funny how this goes [06:00]
mircea_popescu: lol [07:00]
mircea_popescu: course the no noobs thing is more of a "need someone to dig up my ords" than anything, at least in my mind. [07:00]
mircea_popescu: in other news, since i just looked, minigame server pumped out 250gb last month. (this is just the download client part ; actual server traffic is separate) [07:18]
shinohai: Well at least the 0.0013\% did something. [07:20]
mircea_popescu: kek [07:22]
mircea_popescu: the best part being that linux and windows are about even split in download counts, but of course windows is 10x the bw [07:23]
shinohai: http://trilema.com/2016/the-planetary-model-of-software-development/ <<< I started to write about my first full month experience in Eulora, and how despite my noobish mistakes still managed to make 10x the bits as compared to the subjects of our btctalk experiment. [07:58]
lobbesbot: Title: The planetary model of software development. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [07:58]
mircea_popescu: cool. where is it ? [07:59]
shinohai: I have it in my drafts folder, should polish it up but had to move hosting for my wptron [07:59]
shinohai: is seriously considering buying his own box capable of being a webserver [08:00]
mircea_popescu: it's fiddy bux [08:01]
shinohai: Yeah I really just need an old desktop or something I guess. Pogo makes a fine webserver for vanilla pages, but kinda chokes under mysql load xD [08:02]
Framedragger: shinohai: or, i can lend you an ssh account with php-fpm and everything working, that box runs several wp's and it seems to be doing fine :p [08:03]
shinohai: nice Framedragger ... I have an account with sdf and it is uber-reliable, I just gotta pay for my vhost. Haven't decided if I am ready to part with the btc for my full membership yet xD [08:04]
shinohai: I've had mid-level membership there for lik 10 years now lol [08:05]
Framedragger: oh yeah i've heard of sdf, seems like a nice kommunity, too :) [08:05]
Framedragger: nice [08:05]
shinohai: I live the netbsd part of things, it all just works [08:06]
shinohai: s/live/like/ [08:07]
mircea_popescu: so then support them, what. [08:10]
mircea_popescu: if you don't feed the things yo ulike, who will ? hillary ? [08:11]
shinohai: I do regularly feed them Bitcoinz, they started accepting it 2 yrs ago. That's how I paid for membership [08:12]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [08:12]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> course the no noobs thing is more of a "need someone to dig up my ords" than anything, at least in my mind. <- indeed [08:12]
mircea_popescu: i think shinohai's still taking mining orders ? [08:13]
mircea_popescu: how's the smalls batch btw ? you finish it ? [08:13]
diana_coman: trouble is he already gets some 60q iirc [08:13]
shinohai: Yup anytime I'll fill orders, and still whittling down the smalls [08:13]
shinohai: yeah I kinda got a higher q - decisions, decisions [08:13]
mircea_popescu: i like q 60 myself. [08:14]
mircea_popescu: btw you were gonna auction some grass or something ? [08:14]
shinohai: yeah prolly next auction, see how it turns out :) [08:14]
mircea_popescu: what do you mean next auction ? [08:15]
shinohai: Sundays? [08:15]
mircea_popescu: yo ucan start one anytime you want. [08:15]
mircea_popescu: minigame dun hold an auction every sun. nothing announced for this sunday at any rate. [08:15]
diana_coman: talking of auctions: how's it going with the grimy thing hanbot ? [08:15]
mircea_popescu: ya srsly. [08:16]
mircea_popescu: hanbot didja get yourself all grimed up yet ? [08:16]
diana_coman: and uh, any chance of getting the new books too? [08:16]
mircea_popescu: prolly next week. what did you get again ? [08:17]
shinohai: The grime might lube your next tryst with the NFC a bit [08:17]
mircea_popescu: !~google nfc [08:17]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Near field communication - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication>; Near Field Communication: <http://nearfieldcommunication.org/>; Home - NFC Forum NFC Forum: <http://nfc-forum.org/> [08:17]
lobbesbot: Title: Near field communication - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [08:17]
mircea_popescu: uhm [08:17]
diana_coman: should be gathering 600 and lapidary 200 iirc; will have to check the logs if there was something else [08:17]
mircea_popescu: damn 200 lappy ? you got me... [08:18]
diana_coman: meanwhile gathering > 700 but I don't quite see it getting to 800 quickly [08:18]
diana_coman: weirdly enough I still have tinkering > gathering despite doing mostly gathering, huh [08:18]
diana_coman: well, you got tink all the way to 1k or what? [08:19]
mircea_popescu: aha. [08:24]
mircea_popescu: almost 1100 actually. [08:24]
mircea_popescu: and bouq over 500 also [08:24]
mircea_popescu: so it'll be gathering 3 and lapidary 1 for you, tink 5 and boug 2 for me. [08:24]
diana_coman: 1100 wow [08:27]
mircea_popescu: yeah been doing lots of it [08:31]
mircea_popescu: oh, i also get sortage 2, i forgot. [08:31]
diana_coman: awww, I'm only 335 in sortage [08:51]
diana_coman: shinohai, want to build 1 ord for me? [10:04]
shinohai: sure diana_coman you in town? [10:05]
diana_coman: yes [10:05]
shinohai: on my way [10:05]
diana_coman: hm weird, I can see your toon in town although I can't right-click it [10:05]
diana_coman: must be a phantom-shinoa [10:06]
shinohai: Weird I'm just logging back in [10:06]
diana_coman: ajhaha, 2 shinoas [10:06]
shinohai: O.o [10:07]
shinohai: only sees one [10:07]
diana_coman: yeah, my client sometimes does this phantom-things stuff [10:07]
diana_coman: anyways, got a screenshot of it for my collection [10:07]
diana_coman: usual 10\%; it's one of those down that hill [10:08]
shinohai: oh joy [10:08]
shinohai: prepares for 3x the death this round [10:09]
diana_coman: maybe get to it through the water then? [10:09]
shinohai: I'll eventually find some trick, like that steep hill out of town used to ALWAYS kill me [10:09]
diana_coman: "death on the hills!" - nb for eulora's tabloid [10:10]
diana_coman: I usually go through the water myself, hence mentioned it, kind of not bothered with the water at all [10:10]
shinohai: You need this key back or should I leave it [10:13]
shinohai: thinks it's kinda pretty down here by the water at night. [10:18]
diana_coman: you can leave it, no need [10:22]
shinohai: so 1.4k @ q77 [10:24]
shinohai: >.> [10:24]
diana_coman: not bad at all [10:24]
diana_coman: some 65k there for a cs ord quite all right [10:24]
diana_coman: actually hmm, would you like to try using a cs for me? [10:25]
diana_coman: you should get only ords with it, but kind of curious if it still holds [10:25]
shinohai: finally got around to editing some shortcuts in, makes life so much easier. [10:25]
diana_coman: ahh, yeah; you can set some keys for commands too (I have a key for explore since way,way back) [10:26]
shinohai: I'm in town btw whenever you get ready just ping me [10:29]
diana_coman: on my way as soon as I finish this cs; should be in town in ~5min [10:32]
shinohai: kk no rush [10:33]
diana_coman: shinohai, ping [10:48]
diana_coman: did you keep your 10\%? [10:50]
shinohai: Nah, was gonna tell you you can keep it for now if you like since I may be selling the other grass directly to you [10:50]
shinohai: in lieu of auction [10:50]
diana_coman: yum [10:50]
diana_coman: but you should still get your money on this then [10:51]
shinohai: kk [10:51]
diana_coman: !~calc 0.10*1.5*0.77*60*1438 [10:52]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 0.10*1.5*0.77*60*1438 = 9965.340000000002 [10:52]
diana_coman: 10k, not bad [10:53]
diana_coman: shinohai, trade please [10:53]
diana_coman: thanks! [10:54]
shinohai: ty [10:54]
shinohai: cheers! [10:54]
hanbot: heya all. re the grimy thing: all i can report so far is that it's not a container, and it can be equipped in either hand. moar when i figure it out. [12:22]
diana_coman: ahh, so a tool of some sorts, interesting [12:22]
diana_coman: kind of makes sense I guess seeing how it is a tool-kit, lol [12:22]
hanbot: oh, and anyone who has/loots a bp that includes the phrase "using grimy toolkit" may be monetarily incentivized to share details ofc. [12:26]
diana_coman: has never seen "grimy toolkit" on anything so far [12:32]
hanbot: kk [12:34]
diana_coman: but usually isn't it containers that are "using x"? [12:34]
hanbot: oh right, i suppose i meant "with a x" [12:45]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha i got a smelly murky something! [14:59]
mircea_popescu: woot. [14:59]
diana_coman: oooo, congrats! [15:00]
mircea_popescu: this 5.4k run is so totally in the black... [15:00]
diana_coman: what did you get that out of? [15:00]
mircea_popescu: the problem is i have nfi [15:00]
mircea_popescu: i tookl a bath [15:00]
mircea_popescu: still i found it around the fire pit [15:01]
diana_coman: oh, does the bot report it as some sort of smelly murky claim??? [15:01]
mircea_popescu: nope. it evidently came out of one of the normal claims [15:02]
diana_coman: I somehow thought it was loot for some reason [15:02]
diana_coman: aha [15:02]
mircea_popescu: i think so ya [15:02]
diana_coman: does it match the quality of any specific resource? [15:02]
mircea_popescu: nope. [15:03]
diana_coman: server coming down in 50 minutes; usual maintenance&update [15:04]
diana_coman: server back on, enjoy! [16:38]
mircea_popescu: yee [16:38]
shinohai: ty diana_coman [16:40]
diana_coman: shinohai, want to build some pss ords? [16:40]
diana_coman: just got a new crop, lol [16:40]
shinohai: sure, lemme fire up client [16:40]
diana_coman: chants: eulora client's always ooooon [16:41]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:42]
mircea_popescu: he's young yet, doesn't have the skills to burn through his skin [16:42]
shinohai: ok diana_coman ... trade you? [16:44]
diana_coman: yes please [16:44]
shinohai: o7 [16:45]
diana_coman: good luck, they are all around same place [16:45]
diana_coman: weird place that: got 7 ords out of 14 cs, which is kind of way better than what I got anywhere else recently [16:45]
diana_coman: and oh, no more seeing double-shinoas, yay [16:45]
shinohai: 1 is enough? :( [16:46]
diana_coman: awww shinohai [16:46]
diana_coman: better one, the one and only [16:46]
shinohai: ok I have a weird issue diana_coman. I developed all 4 claims, left them locked. Now I go back for the goods and all but ONE claim will open [17:37]
shinohai: I can see the stuff inside [17:38]
shinohai: but wont let me unlock it [17:38]
diana_coman: do you still have the key for that? [17:39]
diana_coman: and what does it say? [17:39]
diana_coman: basically it would not let you open it if you don't have the key [17:39]
diana_coman: shinohai ^ [17:40]
shinohai: Yup still have all 4 keys, just says "This lock is impossible to open by lockpicking" [17:40]
diana_coman: uhm, that is what is says when you have the wrong key [17:40]
shinohai: looks to see if he picked up an extra somehow [17:40]
diana_coman: can you check that the coords on one of your keys are exactly those on the claim? [17:40]
diana_coman: there were a few other ord claims there which I built and then put the key in them so maybe you picked one of those? [17:41]
diana_coman: give me the coords of the locked claim too so I can check if I have the key for it [17:41]
shinohai: one sec [17:42]
shinohai: nm found it [17:43]
diana_coman: heh, happens :) [17:43]
shinohai: dropped the damned thing xD [17:43]
diana_coman: yeah, a key chain would be nice [17:44]
diana_coman: all the nice things that one cannot get in eulora ... [17:44]
diana_coman: btw that's usually my check when I drop a key: I try to open the claim I thought it was for as it should fail with that message if I am right; it saves me the horrible mess when I actually drop the wrong key otherwise [17:45]
shinohai: 1045 q77 [17:45]
diana_coman: !~calc 1045*0.77*262 [17:46]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 1045*0.77*262 = 210818.3 [17:46]
diana_coman: how many was that, 4 claims? [17:46]
shinohai: yup [17:46]
diana_coman: about 50k each, basically as expected/according to current theories, lol [17:47]
diana_coman: not bad, anyway [17:47]
diana_coman: shinohai, do you want pss or ecu? [17:52]
diana_coman: (I grabbed the stones from the table, lol) [17:52]
shinohai: oh ok i was wonderin where dafuq they went [17:54]
shinohai: ecu again please [17:54]
diana_coman: !~calc 0.10*1.8*0.77*262*1045 [17:54]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 0.10*1.8*0.77*262*1045 = 37947.29400000001 [17:54]
shinohai: ty again had fun on that one lol [17:55]
diana_coman: 40k, thanks! [17:55]
diana_coman: heh, learnt about keys at least? [17:55]
diana_coman: oh btw, do you want to try a chetty stick? [17:56]
shinohai: I have no idea what to do with it but sure [17:56]
diana_coman: it's a mega exploration tool basically [17:56]
shinohai: O.o [17:56]
diana_coman: so it'll probably bump you up one level in gathering [17:56]
diana_coman: it takes its time though so you need to equip it in hand then go to some place and start explore and do NOT move until it finishes [17:57]
diana_coman: if you move, the tool is wasted [17:57]
diana_coman: it has only one shot too [17:57]
shinohai: so dont use it with the bot [17:57]
diana_coman: no, no [17:57]
diana_coman: actually you *can* use it with the bot if you know what you are doing and have a pile of them [17:58]
diana_coman: but with only one there is no point anyway [17:58]
shinohai: "Use once and destroy" ? [17:58]
mircea_popescu: curious what he gets. [17:58]
mircea_popescu: esp curious if he can find basics with it. [17:58]
diana_coman: it has q about 20k; when you use it, it will go down to about 62 and then it will say it's worn out if you try to use it again [17:59]
diana_coman: I do want it back so don't throw it away [17:59]
diana_coman: anyways, come to where Foxy is [17:59]
shinohai: kk [17:59]
diana_coman: aha mircea_popescu that's what I'm curious about too [17:59]
mircea_popescu: watch him get canines or some crazy shit. [18:00]
shinohai: xD [18:00]
diana_coman: just dig where you are shinohai [18:00]
shinohai: ok was abt to ask that [18:00]
diana_coman: ahahaha, that'd be fun [18:00]
diana_coman: ftr never found canines here, lol [18:00]
mircea_popescu: ya but who knows [18:00]
diana_coman: there's always a first time though [18:00]
diana_coman: my bets are on pss or wpl, but boulder would be really interesting [18:01]
diana_coman: shinohai, did it start working? (the progress bar) [18:01]
mircea_popescu: my bet is sizable boulder [18:01]
mircea_popescu: because why the fuck not. [18:01]
shinohai: yes it started finally [18:02]
diana_coman: cool, just don't move, wait for it to finish [18:02]
shinohai: Got a polished stone ord [18:09]
mircea_popescu: aha [18:09]
diana_coman: aha, well done shinohai ; did you rank up in gathering at least? [18:12]
shinohai: lvl 28 [18:12]
mircea_popescu: nb [18:12]
diana_coman: I'll be back in town in some ~4 min [18:12]
shinohai: kk [18:13]
diana_coman: or even better: mind buying a bundle from spirover and building the ord for me too? [18:13]
diana_coman: I'll give you the ecu for the bundle + 10\% as usual, ofc [18:13]
shinohai: will do! [18:13]
diana_coman: thanks [18:13]
diana_coman: curious if he still gets around 50k on it [18:13]
mircea_popescu: ya really [18:14]
diana_coman: actually how's the bot going mircea_popescu ? [18:16]
diana_coman: or no complaints = works fine [18:16]
shinohai: The green bar stopped but still hasnt shown me anything, I think this happened before [18:26]
shinohai: reset and started again :/ [18:26]
diana_coman: what does it say in the chat bar? [18:26]
diana_coman: did it say that you stopped working or something like that? [18:26]
shinohai: nope [18:27]
diana_coman: hm, weird [18:27]
shinohai: i moved to reset it and it started over again though so see ya in 5-10 mebbe lol [18:27]
diana_coman: kk [18:27]
shinohai: diana_coman: I'm there can u move close when u have a sec? [18:36]
shinohai: lol [18:36]
diana_coman: sure [18:36]
shinohai: kk [18:37]
diana_coman: !~calc 592*0.35*262 [18:37]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 592*0.35*262 = 54286.399999999994 [18:37]
diana_coman: apparently even more than 50k [18:37]
diana_coman: so by this single data point it's more if you dig the claim too, lol [18:37]
diana_coman: anyways let's see [18:37]
shinohai: This game loves throwing you curveballs. [18:38]
diana_coman: !~calc 48522+0.10*1.8*0.35*592*262 [18:38]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 48522+0.10*1.8*0.35*592*262 = 58293.551999999996 [18:38]
diana_coman: that fine? [18:39]
diana_coman: thanks! [18:39]
shinohai: Perfect thanks that was interesting :) [18:39]
diana_coman: and yeah, game is very...curvy [18:39]
shinohai: finally used the mysterious chetty stick [18:40]
diana_coman: heh; liked it? [18:40]
shinohai: That was way better than stone adze lol [18:41]
shinohai: but the adze lasted a few attempts longer [18:41]
diana_coman: ahahaaha; gotta say I somehow loathe adzes; for some reason always seem to perform worst among basic tools for foxy at least [18:41]
shinohai: anyone wants one for the repair pile I have it in storage [18:42]
diana_coman: can be made into improved adze [18:42]
diana_coman: lol mircea_popescu are you crafting ppb out in the open? [18:44]
mircea_popescu: yeh [19:10]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the bot did 5.3k without a hitch until server went down [19:11]

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