#eulora Logs for 15 May 2016



May 15th, 2016 by Diana Coman
alikim: claims higher than small also work on cft or other types of threads? [02:02]
Wise: Morning [02:03]
mircea_popescu: alikim nah, they get their own bundles ; see diana's site it has the composition listed [02:06]
Birdman: no, claims higher than smalls have different ingredients [02:07]
mircea_popescu: got your pw Wise ? [02:07]
alikim: kk thanks [02:07]
Wise: Yes! [02:12]
mircea_popescu: good deal. [02:12]
Wise: Thank you, trying it out now [02:12]
mircea_popescu: come meet me in town ima give you some odds and ends [02:12]
Wise: I just spawned ingame [02:15]
Wise: Not sure where to go, at some water :) [02:17]
mircea_popescu: :) [02:18]
mircea_popescu: uphill [02:18]
Wise: im inside some portal, at a large ring/fence, up at the hill, was 3 houses here [02:20]
Birdman: idk the coords, but if someone gives them to you you can type /pilot x z y and it'll point your guy towards those coords [02:22]
mircea_popescu: something like 180 160 [02:22]
Birdman: Wise type /pilot 180 0 160 and head that way [02:22]
Birdman: you should see people on a bill eventually [02:23]
mircea_popescu: 00 bill [02:23]
Birdman: its the hill next to that orb [02:23]
Birdman: lol [02:23]
Wise: There´s a male Eulorian in front of me named Mirscea Mirscescu [02:25]
mircea_popescu: aite, trade me [02:25]
hanbot: welcome Wise [02:25]
Wise: Thank you! [02:26]
Birdman: do you judge he's about as strong as you? [02:26]
mircea_popescu: lol [02:26]
Wise: However, I´m not at a town but at a Craft-Table (and only you there)? [02:26]
mircea_popescu: aha [02:27]
Birdman: for now that is town [02:27]
mircea_popescu: accept is tyhe bottom left button [02:27]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [02:27]
Birdman: mircea_popescu do you have stocks of slag sitting around? [02:28]
Birdman: preferably high quality [02:28]
mircea_popescu: nah, im going to have to make some [02:28]
Wise: thank you for trade! [02:28]
Birdman: would you want to trade low q slag bps for high q? [02:28]
mircea_popescu: notrly [02:29]
Birdman: dont blame you [02:29]
Birdman: anyone found a good sr spot? [02:31]
hanbot: Birdman i've had not-terrible luck in the same old sr valley behind the crater [02:32]
Birdman: cool thanks [02:32]
Wise: So may I ask, ... I suppose you don´t go making a game & calling it RealCashEconomy, without having played/got influenced by other RCE´s (as there have not been to many). How close to the ProjectEntropia/Afterworld.ru is the core game mechanics (like crafting, how money flows etc)? [02:35]
hanbot: Wise eulora's a rather lone wolf, especially in terms of its complexity. i won't presume to speak for the designer/devs, but i doubt it's "based" on any other game's mechanics. [02:37]
mircea_popescu: Wise you probably should read the section on trilema, lots of detail there. [02:38]
hanbot: you might find http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora#Game_Mechanics interesting too. [02:38]
Wise: Reading some now :) [02:38]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/category/smg/ [02:38]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [02:38]
lobbesbot: Title: S.MG on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [02:38]
mircea_popescu: eulora is a bitcoin derivative. has ~nothing to do with this "rce" thing. i googled it because people coming in chan here kept mentioning it, best i can discern it's a dead spammy keyword [02:38]
mircea_popescu: if you look at the site that owns google for it, it's a pretty painful mfa sorta shit. [02:39]
Wise: Then you should remove "real cash economy" from top of here [02:39]
Wise: http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora#Game_Mechanics [02:39]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [02:39]
mircea_popescu: hey, i have no problem with players describing it in whatever terms they wish [02:39]
Wise: The sentence Real Cash Economy was removed from Wikipedia, as they seemd it was a non.existing word. [02:40]
Wise: Ok, no problem :) [02:40]
mircea_popescu: (eulorum is player-run, i've not much to do with it) [02:40]
Wise: It´s just that I been looking for RCE´s since 2005, and not many have turned up ;) [02:40]
Birdman: well look no further [02:40]
Wise: I do have some small knowledge of bitcoins to, but not much. Tried some mining, tried some exchange, but just about 0 so nothing much. [02:41]
mircea_popescu: well, there's a lot to read on / figure out etc. don't rush yourself. 3-4 years' worth of republican history won't fit in an evening. [02:42]
Wise: ;) I will read up [02:42]
Wise: See you in 3-4 years! [02:42]
mircea_popescu: lol [02:42]
mircea_popescu: anyway. eulora does have a ECu = satoshi equivalency. [02:43]
Wise: And it´s always at a fixed rate trading against bitcoin? [02:43]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [02:43]
Wise: k [02:44]
mircea_popescu: well, there's a specific mechanism enforcing it, it's discussed at length in the reports. [02:44]
Wise: I do have some bitcoins in a wallet somewhere to spend (here comes the fish...) [02:44]
mircea_popescu: prolly want to talk to jurov then\ [02:44]
diana_coman: morning [02:45]
mircea_popescu: hola. [02:45]
diana_coman: welcome Wise [02:45]
Wise: I´ll see if i figure anything out at all first ;) [02:45]
Wise: Thank you Diana! [02:45]
diana_coman: what did you get as starter items? [02:45]
Wise: 1 stone adze, 111 bit of nithing, and 27 coarse frangible thread (I think) [02:46]
diana_coman: aha, set for a bit of gathering then [02:46]
Wise: Got that talking to mircea mirsecu (who i´m starting to think is a kind of bot and maybe not mircea_popescu´s live character :) ? [02:47]
mircea_popescu: whyssat ? [02:47]
diana_coman: the wiki is a good starting point, otherwise ask in here and there might also be jobs for you from people [02:47]
diana_coman: ahahaha mircea_popescu but he has a point, no? [02:47]
Wise: Oh, just a guess, but I guess I was wrong :) [02:47]
diana_coman: foxybot is a bot [02:47]
Wise: Just trying to diugre things out ^^ [02:47]
Wise: figure* [02:47]
diana_coman: take it slowly Wise , lots of stuff to figure out [02:48]
mircea_popescu: well... i mean... it runs foxybot yeah, but depends what he means by live [02:48]
hanbot: well Mircescu *is* kinda dressed as though he were incapable of basic human decisionmaking... [02:49]
Wise: I will try not to ask to much (but that is already to late, I get to exited) [02:49]
mircea_popescu: lol [02:49]
Wise: :) [02:49]
diana_coman: Wise, if you get any coppers, you might want to get yourself some skills so that you don't lose the experience you get while gathering ( /explore) and building claims (getting resources) [02:49]
Birdman: yeah good idea to get the skills asap [02:52]
Birdman: plus some of the books have been easy to buy lately [02:52]
Wise: Hmm, sry for private messaging you. I thought that when your name was in red diana, it was a private msg (but from what I understand and see, also Birdman can read it)? [02:53]
Birdman: no i think your client shows a red name when you get a ping [02:54]
diana_coman: no Wise [02:54]
Birdman: Wise ? [02:54]
diana_coman: he can't read it, but it's common knowledge [02:54]
diana_coman: lol [02:54]
Birdman: o [02:54]
Wise: hehe, ok :) [02:54]
diana_coman: and yeah, you can talk here no problem [02:54]
mircea_popescu: oh incidentally - don't lose your pgp key. [02:56]
mircea_popescu: among other things in the future eulora will move to rsa encryption for client/server comms [02:56]
Wise: Ok :) [03:02]
Birdman: i should probably generate a better key soon [03:04]
Wise: afk [03:05]
Birdman: is that an irc normality? to announce afk status? [03:13]
Wise: I´m used to it anyway :) Seems rude when I chat so (too) much, and then just go into oblivion [03:30]
Birdman: i dont do much irc outside of a few channels [03:38]
Wise: I did 15 years ago, but now maybe visit a channel once every year or so :) [03:42]
Wise: Hello again! [03:54]
Wise: One question. Just rebooted my computer, but still no sound ingame. So... is there any sound in-game, or I can reboot my system in all eternity without getting any sound? [03:55]
Birdman: i havent heard any [03:56]
Birdman: ever [03:56]
Birdman: the game is still pretty beta i guess [03:57]
Wise: Ok :) [03:58]
Wise: Does it need a sound engineer :) ? [03:58]
Wise: Theres so much to read... [04:34]
Wise: :) [04:34]
Wise: And I´m not much smarter, but a little! [04:34]
Wise: I see the word "Apprentices" in-game. Is there a mentor system :) ? [04:39]
diana_coman: player-to-player agreement, yes Wise [04:40]
Wise: Cool! In short, how does it work? [04:41]
diana_coman: well, I can't talk for others; I tend to offer new people guidance and some work to do (to get them some coppers too) and if they keep at it I usually give them some books too [04:42]
diana_coman: and obv, my apprentices come before others if I have work [04:42]
Wise: So atm it is just an agreement between two individuals, no game-mechanics involved? [04:42]
diana_coman: the point is that they get to learn the ropes faster while doing some work [04:43]
diana_coman: yes [04:43]
Wise: Hm, ok. But when I rightlick Mircea avatar, i says " Crafting Apprentice, Daniel Baron, Mastered 2015"? [04:44]
Wise: And again, sry for all questions! I try to read but hard to find the right posts and to understand as new! [04:44]
diana_coman: that's what he wrote there [04:48]
diana_coman: you can write a description of your character too [04:49]
diana_coman: where you can write "Crafting apprentice, Wise, Mastered 2016" [04:49]
diana_coman: nothing will stop you [04:49]
Wise: Aha! [04:49]
diana_coman: right click on foxy and see what it says [04:50]
diana_coman: I wrote some small para although not about apprentices [04:50]
Wise: She´s not very intelligent, and obviously i´m not either :) [04:52]
diana_coman: ahaha, that's the game's own description and yes, it's a clue to underlying character stats [04:52]
diana_coman: you are "an apprentice magic user" and "very frail and feeble in physical combat [04:53]
diana_coman: somehow this seems to be quite usual lately, don't know [04:53]
mircea_popescu: Wise the channel is logged. if you can't keep a client/bouncer on to pass you any highlights you may receive, it's polite to read the logs and see if anyone talked to you. other than that, no need to say afk or such. [12:18]
mircea_popescu: there was some sound in game - greyhawk talks. we turned it off because it's a mess and well... not a priority atm. will eventually get something. [12:18]
mircea_popescu: Wise> So atm it is just an agreement between two individuals, no game-mechanics involved? << quests work the same way. eulora is very much a player's own thing. [12:19]
Wise: Thank you for your answers! [12:20]
Wise: So! Since your here ;) I did get a axe from you and something else that I dont know what it is yet. But I was also told that I will not go up in skill (at all?) if I havn´t read some book of some kind. I therefore belive it´s importent that I read some book before I start my adventures, am I right? [12:22]
Wise: I figure I could go mine with the pickaxe, but If I dont go up in skill, they go to waste and we don´t want that (if I understood everything right). [12:23]
mircea_popescu: well, it's not exactly clear skills are good or bad yet. people generally level them up, which costs money. some don't, it'\s a toss-up. [12:25]
mircea_popescu: but yes if you want skills you'll have to get books. [12:25]
Wise: Is there a list of books, are they many (I do have some bitcoin in a wallet, so I should be able to transfer money). [12:26]
mircea_popescu: i think diana_coman gives them out for people who do her bidding. i been selling some at 100k a pop also. [12:29]
mircea_popescu: there's maybe a dozen or so of them known currently ? [12:31]
Wise: Ok, tx [12:38]
mircea_popescu: jurov ow shit, 1bn huh ? [13:24]
mircea_popescu: alright i'll have to brb with dough. [13:24]
jurov: :) [13:24]
mircea_popescu: i guess i got a little confused. [13:24]
mircea_popescu: again plox. [13:26]
mircea_popescu: have an empty bottle extra! [13:28]
jurov: ty! [13:28]
mircea_popescu: my pleasure. [13:28]
jurov: danielpbarron et al.: grundin is back in business! [13:28]
danielpbarron: ah [13:48]
danielpbarron: jurov, ready now? [13:48]
jurov: yes [13:48]
jurov: i don't see you around [13:49]
danielpbarron: i'm omw [13:49]
danielpbarron: lemme get 300 mn [13:50]
danielpbarron: ty [13:51]
mircea_popescu: heh that sure goers fast does it. [14:02]
danielpbarron: i hadn't reuped in a while [14:06]
mircea_popescu: i guess ima get a bitcoin's worth myself. gotta keep up! [15:21]
hanbot: auction's on [16:03]
hanbot: 160 million all told [16:25]
mircea_popescu: not bad huh [16:37]
Birdman: who won those imp tool bps? [16:46]
Gaxaro: Hello! [23:52]

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