#eulora Logs for 01 Mar 2016



March 1st, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: there's something amiss here. [00:21]
mircea_popescu: my tome is q 14x, my inks q 150. [00:21]
mircea_popescu: 88462 * 1.44 + 29170 * 1.5 + 999 * 10 * 1.43 + 100 * ? is like 185525.98 at a minimum\ [00:24]
mircea_popescu: i guess this bundle stretches you out ? [00:26]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu> kinda odd nobody seriously bid on them <- I can't bid while sleeping [02:23]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu> DianaComan you mean digestible. digerable isn't english. <- indeed, thanks [02:26]
Birdman: anyone have high q threads for sale, besides danielpbarron? [02:57]
DianaComan: I can sell some at 135\% Birdman [02:59]
Birdman: ill take 2k [02:59]
DianaComan: ok [02:59]
Birdman: just ping when to come to town, im in no rush [02:59]
DianaComan: better come now, lol [03:00]
Birdman: just started a stick [03:00]
DianaComan: I'll take them out in a sec and I'll be around for about 10min [03:00]
DianaComan: well, that should take you at most 5 min, but up to you [03:00]
DianaComan: 2k cft at 119q [03:01]
DianaComan: if you don't make it while I'm still around now, I'll be back in about 1 hr [03:01]
DianaComan: guess it's for later then [03:12]
Birdman: that works, not still there are you [03:14]
Birdman: my tlc remark the only non basic one found so far? [03:37]
DianaComan: Birdman, I'm back; you around? [04:31]
DianaComan: oh wow, 10 levels up in tinkering on the 400 ltf run; somehow building/farming never get THIS easy [04:32]
DianaComan: 10 levels over 1 night, good god [04:33]
danielpbarron: DianaComan> I can sell some at 135\% Birdman << lol mine are cheaper and he takes yours [06:56]
Birdman: yours are like 175\% [06:56]
Birdman: 250 for q110 [06:56]
danielpbarron: ok take whatever coppers you think you saved and buy a calculator [06:57]
Birdman: what am i not seein here? [06:58]
danielpbarron: 180 bv, 110 q, 125\%, comes to 247 or so [06:58]
Birdman: whaat i thought they were 130 each [06:59]
Birdman: well then ill buy yours! [06:59]
danielpbarron: so then foxy's percent would also be higher [07:00]
Birdman: yeah [07:00]
danielpbarron: is it because she talks in percents and not total price? [07:00]
Birdman: no, i just thought threads were 130 bv [07:01]
Birdman: im not brain dead [07:01]
Birdman: danielpbarron you in town soon [07:22]
danielpbarron: in town now [07:23]
Birdman: finishing a stick, ill take 2k threads [07:23]
Birdman: danielpbarron ready [07:34]
Birdman: ty [07:36]
danielpbarron: ty [07:36]
DianaComan: <Birdman> whaat i thought they were 130 each <- why did you think that exactly? [08:01]
DianaComan: I said quite clearly 135\%, the base value is known/available so dunno what you got there [08:07]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan yeah, that's also a problem. course conversely you could say you don't leave low bid behind if you go to sleep. but that's petty bickering, the fact remains that hanbot has the blessing of weird. like that thing in fallout, where you get to see extraordinary results, whatever it was called. [08:13]
mircea_popescu: once she got a whole official auction at open price, because nobody else was on. another time she bought a package for 140 mn, sold the parts for 80. another time she got rare stuff at 2/3 bv, because weird cloud of mystery. on it goes. [08:13]
DianaComan: yeah, good for her, that's all [08:14]
mircea_popescu: in other news : there's going to be a miniupdate of the server wednesday, should fix the recently discovered char creation problems and other small things here and there. [08:15]
mircea_popescu: mostly bugfixes. [08:15]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> ok take whatever coppers you think you saved and buy a calculator << i lolled. [08:17]
mircea_popescu: truth be told, eulora is a harsh mistress, but especially cruel to the innumerate. [08:17]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan 400 * 4070 * 1.25 * 1.25 + 250000 = 2793750 [08:22]
mircea_popescu: oh sorry was it 130 ? /me goes looks [08:23]
DianaComan: yeah, I think so [08:23]
mircea_popescu: 400 * 4070 * 1.25 * 1.3 + 250000 = 2895500 [08:24]
mircea_popescu: got 10 coins ? [08:24]
DianaComan: even the smaller change to some extent, lol [08:25]
mircea_popescu: s'okay. [08:25]
mircea_popescu: tyvm [08:25]
DianaComan: enjoy [08:25]
DianaComan: this tinkering ranking is really quite weird [08:25]
mircea_popescu: ftr i need about 4k more of these things. also, anyone got a lot of nt ? [08:25]
DianaComan: 10 ranks in one night, wtf [08:25]
mircea_popescu: must be in a valley. i've noticed sometimes it gets sweetly easy. [08:25]
DianaComan: I have yet to notice such a valley for farming for instance, sheesh [08:26]
mircea_popescu: heh. [08:26]
mircea_popescu: so i could basically sell some cheese, but dunno if any interest ? [08:27]
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of rare stuff i could sell but no idea if anyone else is chasing it. [08:27]
DianaComan: tbh I'm mostly into increasing my sortage/tink and farming/mining, not really anything rare in tehre [08:27]
DianaComan: or rather: not as far as I can see atm [08:28]
mircea_popescu: aha [08:28]
mircea_popescu: well not anymore, with the electron. [08:28]
DianaComan: yes, precisely [08:28]
mircea_popescu: well, i feel like making an auction, so let's see this : [08:28]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 opening 4mn (bv 3.6mn) ; WOS, d580k, opening 1mn. eta 17:00 ART mar 2nd. [08:31]
DianaComan: 1mn on the screens [08:31]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 opening 4mn (bv 3.6mn) ; WOS, d580k, 1mn heard DianaComan . eta 17:00 ART mar 2nd. [08:31]
DianaComan: and out of curiosity: why did you start the auction on the maculature and stuff so much below bv? there was no bv listed either so I assumed the starting price was bv [08:32]
DianaComan: it's a side consideration as anyway I had calculated my max bid based on what I would get out of the stuff, not at all on bv [08:33]
DianaComan: but still curious [08:33]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just threw in some numbers to see what happens. [08:34]
mircea_popescu: there's this theory in economic (as a science) circles that auctions are a price finding tool. i never had much opportunity to study the matter per se [08:35]
mircea_popescu: neither had anyone else. [08:35]
mircea_popescu: the bs "laboratory" stuff they do is about as laughable as it gets. yeah totally someone is going to make a serious effort for 3 dollar candies or w/e. [08:35]
DianaComan: heh, there is also crowd-consensus and all that :D [08:35]
mircea_popescu: there's some stuff that's correctly constructed (such as for instance the dollar auction discussed here in the logs) to show definite things about definite models [08:35]
mircea_popescu: but as far as experimental basis goes, economics is as much a science as alienfucking is a science. [08:36]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan exactly. [08:36]
DianaComan: I honestly never considered I knew enough economics to have an opinion on these matters, but so far what I saw failed at every turn to seem scientific to me [08:37]
mircea_popescu: well, i'm supposed to be a master at it and it doesn't get any better. [08:37]
mircea_popescu: anyway. in no sense do i begrudge the woman her maculature pile. i'm just interested in teh theoretical aspect. [08:39]
DianaComan: I suspect it is all (theoretical aspect include) just a load of bits of nothing :D [08:40]
mircea_popescu: possibru. maculature! [08:40]
mircea_popescu: which is why that got called that, by and large. [08:40]
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's another thing that sets eulora apart - not so common for a computer game to have things to say and aim to say things bout teh real world. [08:40]
mircea_popescu: in other news, i lj q 158 now [09:47]
DianaComan: wow, congrats [10:04]
DianaComan: mind saying what lj rank you get that at? [10:04]
mircea_popescu: let's just say over 100 [10:05]
DianaComan: somehow mining seems to go way easier than farming and by what you say I start suspecting that lj is *also* going faster than farming [10:06]
DianaComan: don't know what's with farming (or foxy + farming) [10:06]
mircea_popescu: aha [10:07]
mircea_popescu: what q do you mine ? [10:07]
mircea_popescu: also any pss/ae for sale ? [10:07]
DianaComan: last time I checked it was some 142q [10:07]
mircea_popescu: so equal to farming pretty much ? [10:07]
DianaComan: hmmm, I could sell some 100ae I suppose, let me check exactly what I have when back in town [10:07]
DianaComan: well, farming went meanwhile to some 146 but it's still double the skill [10:07]
mircea_popescu: i want more like a stack of pss and 2k ae or so [10:07]
mircea_popescu: it would seem to me, by the trouble i have with tinkering q gains, [10:08]
mircea_popescu: that 1 point from say q 158 to 159 is even three times as tough as from 100 to 101 [10:08]
DianaComan: I still have that remarkable pss to build, but I want to get mining high enough so that the remarkable is not a loss of xp [10:08]
mircea_popescu: yeah. i'm definitely buying the output once it's out of the ground. [10:08]
DianaComan: well, that'd be fine and dandy but still doesn't quite explain the difference between farming and mining really [10:09]
DianaComan: I'm curious if I get mining to same q as farming [10:09]
DianaComan: before skill gets same [10:09]
mircea_popescu: yeah, worth looking at. [10:09]
mircea_popescu: aaactually... 3 times doesn't do it justice. looking through my records i'd say a point from 158 to 159 is easily 100 times harder than from 100 to 101 [10:12]
mircea_popescu: not measurably, but clearly HARDER than that even [10:12]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan you got NT ? [10:23]
DianaComan: got NT 333q, so if I am to part with that, I'll want a hefty markup [10:24]
DianaComan: I paid for it 135\% anyway + it's irreplaceable still [10:24]
mircea_popescu: myeah. i'd rather have q5 tbh [10:25]
DianaComan: somehow all noobs vanished meanwhile [10:25]
mircea_popescu: isn'tr that odd! [10:25]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 opening 4mn (bv 3.6mn) ; WOS, d580k, 1mn heard DianaComan . eta 17:00 ART [15:12]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman incidentally i noticed something, now that i have very well measured ords and remarks : [15:17]
mircea_popescu: you get more specialist skill with higher bundles. [15:17]
diana_coman: aha [15:17]
mircea_popescu: you noticed this too ? [15:18]
diana_coman: interestingly enough the mechanics makes it so that a noob gatherer can in fact level up faster his building skill including specialist building [15:18]
diana_coman: it seemed so to me too but I did not measure it precisely to be absolutely sure [15:19]
mircea_popescu: depending how much variance is from the exp needed for one skill to the next, but it'd seem you need about say 10\% more ords to get the same lj than the value of a remarkable would imply. [15:20]
diana_coman: well, what I noticed was that bits of nothing give you less than ords (as xp on specialist skill) - which I was quite unhappy about, given the fact I had bid on a "high q bundle of your choice" which turned out to be not a bundle, but a bit of nothing [15:21]
mircea_popescu: wait what was this ? [15:21]
diana_coman: an auction long time ago, let me go and fish it out [15:22]
diana_coman: uhm, this is weird, I have the page saved , but I can't find it on trilema?? [15:25]
diana_coman: this would be the link but it seems to redirect http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-auction-sunday-the-end-of-november/ [15:25]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ^ [15:25]
diana_coman: bwahahahah you have broken links! [15:26]
mircea_popescu: da fucl [15:26]
diana_coman: look here: http://trilema.com/2015/paradigm-shit/ [15:26]
lobbesbot: Title: Paradigm shit! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [15:26]
diana_coman: try the lbn link in that article of yours [15:26]
mircea_popescu: how is it broken ? [15:27]
diana_coman: have you tried it? [15:27]
mircea_popescu: lemme se [15:27]
diana_coman: the link on "that lbn" [15:27]
diana_coman: it should go to the auction I'm talking about (the link I first gave) [15:27]
mircea_popescu: o.o [15:27]
diana_coman: aha [15:27]
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoininvestornews.xyz/investing/eulora-auction-sunday-the-end-of-november/ << meanwhile the spammers preserved it. [15:28]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i recall this : you chose the type to be a tiny iirc ? [15:29]
diana_coman: no [15:29]
diana_coman: whaaaat? [15:29]
mircea_popescu: then ? [15:29]
diana_coman: you said it will be a bit of nothing and that was that [15:29]
diana_coman: at the end of the auction [15:29]
diana_coman: no question of what should it be? [15:29]
diana_coman: I have the page with the added report on that too [15:30]
diana_coman: in case you want it back or something, lol [15:30]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-11-19.log.html#t22:38:06 it's in the logs too [15:30]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Thursday, 2015-11-19 (at logs.minigame.bz) [15:30]
diana_coman: what do you mean? [15:30]
diana_coman: oh, the link [15:30]
diana_coman: of course it is, how wouldn't it be [15:31]
mircea_popescu: but this makes no sense - you can't mine ordinaries with a lbn ? [15:31]
diana_coman: well, precisely [15:31]
mircea_popescu: oh i suppose i did it as a courtesy, so people don't have to get an ord to use it ? [15:31]
diana_coman: you wrote bundle and I assumed it was at least a small if not ord [15:31]
diana_coman: and then when I got the item I saw it was a bit of nothing, whatevs [15:32]
mircea_popescu: lol article on the 19th announcing auction sunday the 15th ?! [15:32]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman no cuz it says "ordinary" [15:32]
diana_coman: I think the ordinary thing was meant for the week after? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: oddly no discussion of the matter in the logs that sunday or monday or anything [15:33]
diana_coman: as in that was a success, you thought of making another one for an ord? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: did the auction happen nov 22nd ? or 29th ? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: i have no idea! [15:33]
diana_coman: oh,actually no, it did even say ordinary, true [15:33]
mircea_popescu: so you won and got a lbn instead ? [15:34]
diana_coman: then I suppose I should have cried foul louder for ending up with a bit of nothing [15:34]
diana_coman: yes [15:34]
mircea_popescu: well but why ? [15:34]
diana_coman: because you changed mind in the middle of it apparently [15:34]
mircea_popescu: makes no diff whatsoever to me, why would this be ?! [15:34]
mircea_popescu: da fuck do i care lol. [15:34]
diana_coman: how would I know? I did say at that time in game that it was said bundle but I suppose I didn't kick enough of a fuss to register [15:35]
diana_coman: Sunday November the 28th, at 6 PM GMT, there will be offered for auction on behalf of S.MG one Ordinary Bundle, of quality so calculated that its base merchant value comes to 10000 ECU. [15:35]
diana_coman: this is what the saved page says though [15:35]
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of arcana impoact of skill discussions in the 29th [15:35]
diana_coman: so 28th november, not whatever elese [15:35]
mircea_popescu: but nothing re bundle [15:35]
diana_coman: well, afterwards there wasn't much left to do [15:35]
diana_coman: I tried to make the best of it, what else [15:36]
mircea_popescu: odd. [15:36]
mircea_popescu: lol! what about you know, dood where's my bundle! [15:36]
mircea_popescu: right then as opposed to you know, 5 months after using it o.O [15:36]
mircea_popescu: or do you still have it ? [15:36]
diana_coman: I DID ask exactly when I got the lbn [15:37]
mircea_popescu: 400k lines in my logfile for november... [15:37]
diana_coman: in game [15:37]
mircea_popescu: do you remember any exact words ? [15:37]
diana_coman: not even in the logs, but in game [15:37]
mircea_popescu: yes in game logs i mean. [15:38]
diana_coman: oh god [15:38]
mircea_popescu: lots of game spam [15:38]
diana_coman: let me grep myself and see if I find something, there should be in there, you're right [15:38]
mircea_popescu: i can't grep for lbn because tons of entries [15:38]
mircea_popescu: a look gave foxy might work [15:38]
mircea_popescu: apparently lots of tpt, sr, [15:39]
mircea_popescu: 3k lbn [15:39]
mircea_popescu: found it [15:39]
mircea_popescu: (13:18:45) >Foxy gave Mircea 12000000 Copper. (13:18:45) >Mircea gave Foxy a Little Bit O' Nothing. (13:18:45) >Trade complete (13:18:55) Mircea says: may it multiply under your very hoe. (13:19:05) Mircea says: and now... do you want to auction anything foxy ? [15:39]
mircea_popescu: well so you ask how it changes into a bundle, but i was in teh middle of auction. [15:41]
diana_coman: well, I asked as soon as I realised something was not as advertised [15:41]
mircea_popescu: anyway, pretty sure i made it a lbn as a courtesy, so player can use it on whatever. [15:41]
diana_coman: uhm [15:42]
diana_coman: kind of many problems with the idea that it's better that way [15:43]
mircea_popescu: i guess. [15:43]
mircea_popescu: but you gotta say! heckovaload of difference between "hey, this isn't the thing i bid for!" and "how do you make lbn into a bundle"! [15:43]
diana_coman: for one thing that excluded any cs-gotten claims, which suck enormously right from the start [15:43]
mircea_popescu: did we have cs back then ? [15:44]
diana_coman: lol, of course we did [15:44]
diana_coman: knows she has to kick a much bigger fuss , yeah [15:44]
mircea_popescu: yeah cuz auction for materials earlier [15:45]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i dunno. [15:45]
mircea_popescu: wasn't intentional at any rate. [15:45]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you got ss ? [15:54]
diana_coman: I got ss, yes, thank you for asking [15:54]
diana_coman: :D [15:55]
mircea_popescu: are you selling it ? [15:55]
diana_coman: hm, what do you offer for it? [15:55]
mircea_popescu: 2k ea [15:55]
diana_coman: aha; no, not selling it [15:56]
mircea_popescu: well what do you want for it ? [15:56]
diana_coman: I have 15ss at 119q that I could let go of, for 3k each and 34 at 140q that I could let go for 4k each [15:57]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i need like 500 ;/ [15:57]
diana_coman: well, we can make a deal if you supply cs and I go to get them [15:57]
mircea_popescu: im flat out of cs [15:58]
diana_coman: or do you need them low q? [15:58]
diana_coman: aha [15:58]
mircea_popescu: am jus a poor boi from a poor fambly! [15:58]
diana_coman: oh yeah, that 100+ in lj got made out of poor boy's family [15:58]
diana_coman: sure [15:58]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:59]
mircea_popescu: fine, i make some bods [15:59]
diana_coman: oh, how's that auction thing? did I miss some announcement or is there 0 interest ? [16:01]
mircea_popescu: which ? [16:38]
diana_coman: the one on screens and cft bps [17:10]
mircea_popescu: yeah, still going [17:19]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 opening 4mn (bv 3.6mn) ; WOS, d580k, 1mn heard DianaComan . eta 17:00 ART [17:19]
Birdman: 1.1mn [17:19]
Birdman: wos [17:19]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 opening 4mn (bv 3.6mn) ; WOS, d580k, 1.1mn heard Birdman . eta 17:00 ART [17:24]
mircea_popescu: and in other news i'm about to run out of stuff to craft omygerd. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: where's all the noob miners and their noobish products! [17:25]
diana_coman: are those cft bps all the new bps we got? [17:25]
diana_coman: tbh it's really that precisely CFT bps I have full inventory, lol [17:26]
mircea_popescu: nah, these are ancient. [17:32]
mircea_popescu: all the bps i got are what i said, a bunch of considerations. [17:32]
mircea_popescu: haven't done more clicks on abc since then [17:32]
mircea_popescu: (kinda shocked that high q, irreplaceable bps of arguably the most important kind won't even fetch 110\%, tbh) [17:33]
diana_coman: well, the auction is not yet over; on the other hand I think it's also the trouble of limited inventory space [17:40]
Birdman: only takes up a single space [17:40]
diana_coman: Birdman, are you bidding on them or what are you talking about otherwise? [17:40]
Birdman: im just a lowly farmer/gatherer, with my own stocks of cft bps so ive no interest [17:41]
Birdman: im not bidding on them [17:41]
diana_coman: aha [17:41]
diana_coman: there's also the fact that overcraft on cft is not really a big thing or not exactly reliant on bps so not so sure I see a big value in the bp itself being high q [17:41]
Birdman: yeah [17:42]
Birdman: still wondering what bp value can really be used for [17:42]
Birdman: besides shredding bundle q [17:43]
Birdman: but that seems to be the most expensive way to get maculature regardless [17:43]
Birdman: maybe when people finally get bps the bv will be changed to make them worth much more [17:43]
mircea_popescu: for all you know higher q loots better. [17:43]
Birdman: right [17:44]
Birdman: but they are still 1/10 of bundle bv [17:44]
Birdman: so its sort of still irrelevant [17:44]
diana_coman: oddly enough it would seem that bps of low q items might fetch kind of higher markups on low value (hence quantity basically) than high value, while bps of high q items the opposite; maybe; more of a thinking-aloud thing than proper thought or anything [17:46]
mircea_popescu: pretty weird in any case [17:47]
diana_coman: 1.25 on the wos mircea_popescu [18:18]
diana_coman: and 4mn on the cft bps [18:20]
Birdman: 1.35 [18:24]
danielpbarron: what am i doing wrong here: shouldn't the base value of 9999 q202 cft blueprints be 364k ? [18:36]
Birdman: no [18:37]
Birdman: 180*2.02*9999 [18:37]
danielpbarron: 180 is the threads [18:37]
Birdman: oh duh [18:37]
Birdman: good point! [18:37]
mircea_popescu: o.O [18:38]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 4mn heard diana_coman ; WOS, d580k, 1,3mn heard Birdman . eta 17:00 ART [18:38]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's like 18 c each bp bv, these are 36.x cuz quality. [18:39]
mircea_popescu: so a stack is [18:39]
mircea_popescu: omfg no wonder people weren't bidding [18:39]
mircea_popescu: doh [18:39]
danielpbarron: aha [18:39]
Birdman: 1.35mn ** [18:39]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 4mn heard diana_coman ; WOS, d580k, 1,35mn heard Birdman . eta 17:00 ART [18:39]
mircea_popescu: well i'm sure diana will be thrilled to hear. [18:40]
Birdman: anything i can do to grease wheels on cs production mircea_popescu ? [18:42]
mircea_popescu: O.o didn't you just get a huge bunch [18:43]
Birdman: well [18:43]
Birdman: i wouldnt call it a huge bunch [18:43]
Birdman: btw do you have the highest building mircea_popescu? [18:44]
mircea_popescu: nah not even close [18:44]
Birdman: oh right, then sortage [18:45]
mircea_popescu: well i wasthe first over 400 [18:45]
Birdman: your quality on basics is the highest right? [18:45]
mircea_popescu: afaik yeah [18:45]
Birdman: thats pretty awesome [18:47]
Birdman: can get overcraft on your best tinkering cheaply with your best q basics [18:48]
Birdman: not sure how else you could use that position [18:49]
Birdman: and considering you're crazy high in gathering too you find your own rare claims [18:51]
Birdman: like remarkables [18:51]
Birdman: so you want my mid q wpl mircea_popescu ? [19:29]
Birdman: got a bout a stack, think itll mix out to ~ 50 [19:29]
mircea_popescu: say didja see my shop page ? [19:29]
Birdman: alright alright [19:31]
Birdman: figured i'd ask [19:31]
Gaxaro: Hey there [20:23]
mircea_popescu: hola! [20:24]
Gaxaro: Soo any luck yet? lol [20:24]
Gaxaro: Feels like i been waiting a month heh. [20:27]
Birdman: might've been a eulora month [20:28]
mircea_popescu: Gaxaro yeah was announced, miniupdate wed. [20:33]
mircea_popescu: see teh log. [20:33]
Gaxaro: Ah cool,cool [20:34]
hanbot: 1.45M on your WOS mircea_popescu [23:51]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 9999 CFT recipes, q 202 4mn heard diana_coman ; WOS, d580k, 1,45mn heard hanbot . eta 17:00 ART [23:52]

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