#eulora Logs for 28 Feb 2016



February 28th, 2016 by Diana Coman
Birdman: dropped some 20 tubers out in the woods the other day [00:29]
Birdman: found em earlier [00:29]
Birdman: any theories on when/why things disappear? [00:29]
DicePower: Server crash sounds like a reasonable guess [00:32]
DicePower: Not that I've played the game :P [00:32]
mircea_popescu: gmorning eulora [09:29]
mircea_popescu: 5hours 10 minutes to auction! [09:48]
mircea_popescu: DicePower did you manage to get it compiled ? [10:42]
mircea_popescu: Birdman you there ? [13:09]
hanbot: i'm gearing up for the auction mahself [14:38]
hanbot: i suspect DicePower would've had a lot more questions meanwhile if he'd made it in ;p [14:39]
danielpbarron: well i feel stupid; went out of my way to get my flagon ingredients all the same quality, only to find out the variable ingredient thing makes it impossible to avoid the rounding down situation [14:41]
hanbot: ouch [14:41]
mircea_popescu: that sux [14:43]
danielpbarron: well i needed to craft that stuff anyway [14:43]
mircea_popescu: what do they take, anyway ? [14:43]
danielpbarron: shavings leather and cordage [14:43]
danielpbarron: all three are variable [14:43]
mircea_popescu: do you need my cordage ? [14:43]
danielpbarron: not sure there is even a "this much of each one at quality 100 equals the bundle at 100" [14:44]
danielpbarron: no i have plenty of cordage [14:44]
mircea_popescu: pretty sure there is : the minimums [14:44]
danielpbarron: oh my bad, the shavings isn't variable [14:44]
danielpbarron: aha, yes the minimum would have [14:45]
danielpbarron: dang [14:45]
danielpbarron: i wanted to overcraft anyway [14:45]
mircea_popescu: still can calculate int q bundles, or at least very close [14:45]
mircea_popescu: but it's a little complex lol. by now eulora needs to come with its own tool suite. [14:46]
danielpbarron: yes [14:46]
mircea_popescu: but speaking of this, either DianaComan for inclusion in foxybot or else Azelphur jurov for inclusion in euporium : it'd be very useful if i could somehow tell it what materials i have and it'd tell me how to mix them for minimal q loss [14:46]
danielpbarron: i use wolframalpha [14:47]
DianaComan: heh, I have that kind of stuff in the list of desired features for the bot for quite some time but since dev is atm on hold due to loads of other work, don't know when I'll get around to it [14:47]
mircea_popescu: typical situation for this would be : i have item A 200 x q178 315 x q199 240 q 111 and item B 100 q 55 550 q190. recipe takes 8 A and 3 B. tell me which combos make the bundle not round down [14:48]
DianaComan: for sale: 50 tlc 145q [14:48]
mircea_popescu: 100k on tlc [14:48]
DianaComan: lol, don't they go for more than 2k even lower q? [14:49]
danielpbarron: 105k [14:50]
mircea_popescu: 120 [14:58]
mircea_popescu: ok, since it's 5pm, ima go pick up the auction items and see you all in game for the official auction! [14:59]
mircea_popescu: that was sweet :) [15:16]
Birdman: mircea_popescu im here [15:32]
Birdman: cs ready i assume? [15:32]
mircea_popescu: in other news i now mine q 227 on basics. [15:32]
mircea_popescu: yeah Birdman how many you want in the end ? [15:32]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what's the status on teh flagon things ? [15:32]
Birdman: 60k a pop right? [15:32]
mircea_popescu: yeah [15:32]
Birdman: can i pay you some in tlc? [15:32]
mircea_popescu: sure. [15:32]
Birdman: 200 of em then should do fine [15:33]
mircea_popescu: that's funny, cuz that's exactly what i have. [15:33]
mircea_popescu: be in town in 2 mins [15:33]
mircea_popescu: well more like 5, but same idea. [15:33]
Birdman: i know i know you told me you were makin 200 of em lol [15:35]
mircea_popescu: oh [15:36]
mircea_popescu: i did didn't i. well k then! [15:36]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron what's the status on the flagon things ? << making the waters now [15:36]
mircea_popescu: ah cool. so eta ? [15:36]
danielpbarron: probably a few hours [15:36]
mircea_popescu: pretty much all i need is a few clicks on these and im good to go see what considerations actulaly do [15:37]
mircea_popescu: Birdman o sweet! o man. [15:39]
mircea_popescu: enjoy! [15:39]
Birdman: thanks! [15:39]
mircea_popescu: also, can you make me a large pile of ltf ? i'd love some of those. [15:40]
mircea_popescu: 3-4k would do jus' fine. [15:40]
Birdman: will you buy more of the tlc? [15:40]
Birdman: flasks? [15:40]
Birdman: im focused entirely on farming and gathering right now [15:40]
mircea_popescu: tlc i'[m good for now, unless i get a lot of ltf. [15:40]
mircea_popescu: farming lessee [15:40]
mircea_popescu: get me wpl ? [15:40]
Birdman: sounds good, whatcha paying for what? [15:41]
mircea_popescu: or if gathering, also works, get me flotsam, sr, nt ? [15:41]
Birdman: also ive been waiting for a noob to mine this remarkable tlc [15:41]
mircea_popescu: what q you get, like 60s ? [15:41]
Birdman: cats out of the bag now [15:41]
Birdman: no pushing q 80 now [15:41]
mircea_popescu: holy shit lol. well done! [15:41]
Birdman: but no noobs to be found! and now you're stocked up on tlc [15:41]
Birdman: projected like 50k tlc comin out of the thing too, like a coins worth at 2k a pop [15:41]
mircea_popescu: i'd buy a lot of dm if you can get it. [15:42]
mircea_popescu: 5k a pop, even better deal than the tlc i guess. [15:42]
Birdman: mmhm im sure it will be found eventually [15:42]
mircea_popescu: i was pretty sure it was found ? [15:42]
Birdman: DianaComan is bogarting [15:43]
mircea_popescu: so go check the entire map, must be a claim somewhere neh ?\ [15:43]
DianaComan: neh [15:43]
mircea_popescu: hahahaha [15:43]
mircea_popescu: how much for your secret DianaComan ? [15:43]
DianaComan: 10mn [15:43]
DianaComan: what is bogarting Birdman ? [15:43]
mircea_popescu: when you don't pass the joint [15:43]
danielpbarron: lol [15:44]
Birdman: hogging lol [15:44]
DianaComan: oh, I'm fine with mircea_popescu 's definition, lol [15:44]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan how about, you tell him where it is and i'll make you 30 free cheeses if you bring the rest of the ingredients. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: we'll call it the diana comanzweir [15:44]
DianaComan: goes to check what cheez takes [15:45]
mircea_popescu: 1 st and 2 eps, 5 molluscs. [15:45]
DianaComan: uhm, st [15:45]
mircea_popescu: hey, otherwise i'd have just offered the cheeses free altogether. [15:46]
DianaComan: and 30 cheez is 150 molluscs, so that's what, 300k, mhm [15:46]
DianaComan: doesn't sound interesting to me at this point [15:47]
danielpbarron: how is 150 molluscs 300k now? [15:48]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, but ima write this down for later when she tries to sell 'em! [15:48]
DianaComan: base value 300k [15:48]
mircea_popescu: oh i see how it is! [15:48]
DianaComan: well, tlc now apparently is same to you q 60 or 80 or 140 [15:49]
DianaComan: so bv is the only constant [15:49]
mircea_popescu: yeah but bv of "i found dm" is ~0. so you're making infinity\%! [15:49]
DianaComan: well, COST of that is in excess of 10mn really [15:49]
DianaComan: so not sure how it is I am making infinity [15:50]
danielpbarron: isn't x/0 indeterminate? [15:50]
mircea_popescu: and the COST of 150 cheeses made by me is easily 10mn! [15:50]
mircea_popescu: i mean 30 cheeses. but anyway. [15:50]
DianaComan: with my own st in there? [15:50]
mircea_popescu: hm... everything costs an infinity [15:51]
DianaComan: so you know, if the cost for you is 10mn [15:51]
DianaComan: then why not just pay me 10mn? [15:51]
mircea_popescu: the failure of creating a pricing model six months later is becoming a serious prtoblem [15:51]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan cuz i spent all my monyz on bundles. [15:52]
danielpbarron: not enough poor people who need coppers; the last one we had went and suicided himself from shame of losing his virginity [15:52]
DianaComan: jurov should be able to help I suppsoe [15:52]
DianaComan: bawahaha danielpbarron [15:52]
Birdman: i'd pay 600k for that info i guess [15:54]
DianaComan: I'm fine passing that [15:55]
DianaComan: 120k on 50 tlc 145q [15:57]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu, you around to get the clovers? [16:06]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan can come to town yes [16:11]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan here i am [16:12]
mircea_popescu: lol danielpbarron nice hat [16:12]
DianaComan: arghh, just started a cs, will pop in town as soon as it finishes [16:14]
mircea_popescu: aite. [16:14]
DianaComan: ready mircea_popescu [16:18]
mircea_popescu: trrrrade me [16:19]
mircea_popescu: gah wtf. 1sec [16:19]
DianaComan: says you already busy [16:19]
mircea_popescu: be ~2 mins to finish this craft wtf. [16:19]
DianaComan: lol, k [16:19]
mircea_popescu: danke [16:21]
DianaComan: yw [16:21]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> not enough poor people who need coppers; the last one we had went and suicided himself from shame of losing his virginity <<< better, always and everywhere the main enemy of good, or how did that go. [16:30]
DicePower: Hello World! [17:24]
DianaComan: hi DicePower , how's the compilation going? [17:24]
DicePower: Heya, should have it going soon, I'm on the second to last step. [17:25]
DicePower: Just had a few errors pop up and not sure if I should ignore them or what... [17:26]
DianaComan: what errors? [17:26]
DicePower: When I run: $ ./configure --with-cal3d=/home/ossa/dev/cal3d I get the following output (errors at bottom): http://dpaste.com/3JNSYZZ I'm not sure if this is because I ran: $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/ossa/dev/cal3d/src/cal3d/.libs/: yesterday, and have turned off the computer in the mean time (not sure about the meaning of the note: Note that exports only work in your current terminal - if you use [17:29]
DicePower: multiple windows and don't issue one export per window you will observe strange, hard to debug errors; does that mean I have to do the entire remainder of the compilation process in the same terminal instance?). [17:29]
lobbesbot: Title: dpaste: 3JNSYZZ (at dpaste.com) [17:29]
DianaComan: set the crystal variable DicePower [17:30]
DianaComan: export CRYSTAL etc [17:30]
DianaComan: and yes, if you just ran the export commands in the terminal then you need to run both of them again [17:31]
DicePower: The export CRYSTAL=/home/ossa/dev/cs command I just ran [17:31]
DicePower: I'll run $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/ossa/dev/cal3d/src/cal3d/.libs/: from /dev/cal3d again if needed. [17:32]
DianaComan: run: echo [17:32]
DianaComan: and check that the output is indeed the correct path to where you put cs on your computer [17:32]
DianaComan: same for LD_LIBRARY_PATH, run first: echo and see what it says [17:32]
DianaComan: if it shows anything other than correct path, then run export again [17:33]
DianaComan: the error there says that either CRYSTAL variable is NOT set, or you got the path/crystal version wrong [17:33]
DianaComan: DicePower> multiple windows and don't issue one export per window you will observe strange, hard to debug errors; does that mean I have to do the entire remainder of the compilation process in the same terminal instance?). <- no, just that you need to make sure that the CRYSTAL and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are correctly set in the terminal where you compile [17:35]
DicePower: seems to be correct. [17:36]
DicePower: LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set to the value LD_LIBRARY_PATH [17:36]
DianaComan: lol, no [17:36]
DianaComan: run the export again, and you can skip last part, so only export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/ossa/dev/cal3d/src/cal3d/.libs/ [17:36]
DicePower: I mean when I echo it that's what I get [17:36]
DicePower: Okay, I wasn't sure if the last part was some sort of recursive setting, it looked strange. [17:37]
DianaComan: it is meant so that if you have something in there already, it adds to it rather than replacing it [17:37]
DianaComan: but since you don't have anything useful... [17:37]
DicePower: kk [17:37]
DicePower: makes sense [17:37]
DicePower: I see the issue [17:42]
DicePower: The actual folder that gets downloaded is called "cs-forupload" whereas the tutorial uses "cs" [17:43]
DicePower: So I just have to reset [17:44]
DianaComan: never saw that cs-forupload, but in any case, replace from tutorial all the paths/folder names with what you actually have on your system... [17:44]
DianaComan: yes [17:44]
DicePower: Might be okay though, it's still chugging away [17:48]
DicePower: (^^ was for: /src/server/Jamfile: No such file or directory) [17:49]
DicePower: Looks like the Jamfile might be optional [17:49]
DicePower: I can't wait to write a fully GUI version of this tutorial someday lol [17:50]
DianaComan: GUI version? [17:52]
DianaComan: of the ...tutorial? [17:52]
DicePower: Tutorial that doesn't require using the command line lol [17:52]
DianaComan: you mean a tutorial for "how to compile this in a MORE COMPLICATED WAY. But with shiny pictures!" [17:53]
DicePower: YES [17:53]
DianaComan: oh well [17:53]
DicePower: I mean, for people whose brain shuts off when seeing the command line, it's probably less complicated :P [17:54]
DianaComan: has for some reason a flashback of those drawings pixel by pixel made on screen when "installing" games from ..audio cassettes [17:54]
DicePower: LOL [17:54]
DicePower: Never heard of doing that [17:55]
DianaComan: I'd rather help people get their brain back in working order, but that's probably just me [17:56]
DicePower: I think the human brain has evolved to avoid command lines when possible in favor of GUIs. [17:57]
DianaComan: neah [17:58]
DianaComan: my 3 yo ALSO prefers images to words, sure [17:58]
DicePower: I mean like [17:59]
DianaComan: it has nothing to do with evolution though - just with the fact that he doesn't yet know how to read (though since he started knowing some of the letters, he actually has all of a sudden quite a lot more interest in the text, so...) [17:59]
DicePower: How do you capture the intuitive power of a navigation tree in a command line? [17:59]
DicePower: You don't. [17:59]
DianaComan: lol [17:59]
DicePower: The user has to cd in and out of everything over and over. [17:59]
DicePower: There's no way to see the files/data/etc. on a higher level. [18:00]
DianaComan: what bullshit is that: in your navigation tree, the user has to click like a monkey 10000 times; in command line use tab and go where you want to go [18:00]
DianaComan: ever heard of auto-complete? [18:00]
DianaComan: really DicePower I get what you mean - it's just that I've been there, moved on [18:01]
DicePower: Well, I mean the user and to CD in and out of everything to see the system. They can only see one part of the system at a time. [18:01]
DianaComan: nope [18:01]
DicePower: It's not so much about effort to navigate as it is the GUI being more "in the shape of" the system itself. [18:02]
DianaComan: they could see all of it if that's what they wanted [18:02]
DicePower: So that the system (file system, etc.) can be understood more easily by looking at a navigation tree than looking at a command line. [18:02]
DianaComan: the gui is not in any way in the shape of the system, lol [18:02]
DicePower: If you have the tree completely open, you're LOOKING at the shape of the system. [18:03]
DianaComan: anyways, how's your compilation going? [18:03]
DicePower: Other than the Jamfile thing, it seems to have completed. [18:03]
DicePower: Onto step 8 [18:03]
DianaComan: well done [18:04]
DianaComan: DicePower, re your "whole structure" thing - you can actually show in terminal the whole tree structure, no problem [18:06]
DianaComan: it really is just a matter of what you don't know [18:07]
DicePower: I see [18:10]
DicePower: interesting [18:10]
mircea_popescu: \x08<\x08DicePower\x08>\x08\x0F YES << go for it. [18:12]
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm making more coal waiting for danielpbarron [18:12]
DianaComan: maybe *after* he gets in game at least once? [18:13]
DianaComan: lol [18:13]
mircea_popescu: anyone selling me a large batch of ibs or lft ? qi! [18:13]
mircea_popescu: Birdman also if you're looking for stuff to get, i'd want some low q rr, f, sr. dunno if this still on your list. [18:14]
danielpbarron: DicePower> I think the human brain has evolved to avoid command lines when possible in favor of GUIs. << that isn't evolved when you go backwards [18:15]
danielpbarron: i have low q rr [18:15]
mircea_popescu: how much and how much ? [18:15]
danielpbarron: about 5 stacks around quality 11 [18:16]
mircea_popescu: nice. 2mn for 4 stacks ? [18:17]
DicePower: heh [18:18]
DicePower: Soooo, I'm on the very last substep, ./eu.sh :D Only getting 1 error in line 3: ./euclient: No such file or directory. [18:21]
mircea_popescu: you;'re in the wrong directory again. [18:22]
DicePower: I can see the file in the GUI though. [18:22]
DicePower: I'm in the right directory this time, pretty sure. [18:23]
DicePower: The Eulora one [18:23]
mircea_popescu: whats ls -l grep "euclient" say ? [18:23]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, deal [18:23]
mircea_popescu: im in town danielpbarron [18:23]
DicePower: For the euclient with no extension, - rwxrwxr - x 1 [18:25]
DicePower: The .cfg and .dbg have less privileges [18:25]
danielpbarron: ready when you are mircea_popescu [18:25]
mircea_popescu: how about f/sr/ibs/ltf danielpbarron ? [18:29]
mircea_popescu: oh and how about the amnesia water [18:29]
danielpbarron: almost done [18:30]
mircea_popescu: sweet then ima make a few toolkits and say when you're ready. [18:30]
danielpbarron: i'm also trying to get those other things [18:30]
mircea_popescu: whiuc [18:30]
mircea_popescu: which ? [18:30]
danielpbarron: ltf f sr ibs [18:30]
mircea_popescu: oh sweet. [18:30]
danielpbarron: not in a rush but i'd sooner use them than sell them [18:31]
mircea_popescu: ultimately i want 4k ltf, so if you get that, or 5 stacks of ibs, or 25 stacks of f / 15 stacks of sr it'd be grand [18:31]
danielpbarron: i could use that many too [18:31]
mircea_popescu: oh you want them for yourself huh. i c! [18:32]
mircea_popescu: so eulora is short a stack of ltf. [18:33]
mircea_popescu: 40mn bv [18:33]
DicePower: back in a bit [18:39]
Gaxaro: Hello! [19:21]
Gaxaro: So any luck with the bug yet? [19:21]
mircea_popescu: lol tis not a matter of luck you know. [19:21]
Gaxaro: So this means i never will be able to play ever again? [19:22]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i got your stuff [19:22]
mircea_popescu: trade moi! [19:23]
mircea_popescu: Gaxaro you know, yest i said prolly next week. that was saturday, today is sunday, what do you want, miracles ? [19:23]
mircea_popescu: shiiit 875 to 999 ? [19:24]
danielpbarron: it's in two qualities [19:24]
mircea_popescu: aite. [19:24]
mircea_popescu: tyvm dpb! [19:25]
danielpbarron: enjoy [19:25]
mircea_popescu: so... on the basis of this final delivery, eta for the first apprentice bouq consideration click, ~1 hour! [19:25]
hanbot: gl! [19:25]
mircea_popescu: darn these library dusts sure are going fast. [20:05]
mircea_popescu: anyone got some for sale ? [20:05]
mircea_popescu: aaaand! first click on the apprentice consideration ongoing. bundle q 185. [20:15]
mircea_popescu: so first cliock done! [21:08]
mircea_popescu: i looted : 1 neophyte gumboist considerations, and 1 neophyte mcguyver considerations! [21:08]
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder. [21:08]
mircea_popescu: and 107 maculature 1 heh [21:09]
hanbot: mircea_popescu you sellin'? [21:12]
mircea_popescu: hm. [21:12]
mircea_popescu: so they take 1 bod, 1 isc , 1 dt and 1 to 999 of therespective 10c bv numina. [21:13]
mircea_popescu: i guess it'd make sense to sell huh. [21:13]
mircea_popescu: ok - lemme. [21:13]
hanbot: bod, isc? [21:14]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, opening 500k ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, opening 500k. eta 11:00 ART [21:14]
mircea_popescu: black of desspayr and inconsequential sacrifice token, hanbot [21:14]
hanbot: ah ty [21:15]
hanbot: i'll put 500k on that. [21:15]
mircea_popescu: which ? [21:15]
hanbot: oh, herp. 500k each. [21:15]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot . eta 11:00 ART [21:16]
mircea_popescu: and 2nd click ongoing. [21:18]
hanbot: so i have the bps for the books, but can you make me 8 grubsilk threads for em? [21:20]
danielpbarron: what skill line uses these things? [21:22]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron they're bouq recipes [21:22]
danielpbarron: bod is the ink? [21:22]
mircea_popescu: seem exactly like my apprentice bps, but they use lower numina [21:22]
mircea_popescu: yeah black of d [21:23]
danielpbarron: are you also selling ink? [21:23]
mircea_popescu: well yes, look at auction line [21:23]
danielpbarron: d'oh [21:23]
mircea_popescu: hanbot i wouild make them, they need basically acg, which i'd make if you made me some ltf. [21:23]
mircea_popescu: you prolly want to click with tomes i make, i guess, higher q means more oc. [21:24]
mircea_popescu: tome in particular is like 90k bv [21:24]
hanbot: i have ltf 115, works? [21:24]
hanbot: and yeah [21:24]
mircea_popescu: ftr, the bod im selling here is 150q. [21:24]
mircea_popescu: totally works yes. [21:24]
mircea_popescu: aaaahhh this is pretty exciiiiiiting [21:25]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the click produces maculature, i guess ima auction that also for a low bouq to make some lbn. [21:26]
danielpbarron: 525k on the mcguyvering one [21:27]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 525k danielpbarron . eta 11:00 ART [21:27]
DicePower: Okay, so let's debug that final command! When I run ./eu.sh I get the following: ./eu.sh: line 3: ./euclient: No such file or directory. I seem to be in the correct directory. When I run ls -l grep "euclient" I get the following: http://dpaste.com/1Q8HXSA When I double click euclient manually, nothing happens. [21:27]
lobbesbot: Title: dpaste: 1Q8HXSA (at dpaste.com) [21:27]
mircea_popescu: did you chmod it +x ? [21:28]
danielpbarron: don't double click anything [21:28]
DicePower: mircea_popescu: Yes [21:29]
mircea_popescu: size looks right... [21:29]
DicePower: danielpbarron: Was just trying to figure out if the file was working [21:29]
DicePower: I think the [21:30]
DicePower: 2 [21:30]
DicePower: 3 [21:30]
DicePower: -rwxrwxr-x is proof that the chmod worked [21:30]
danielpbarron: DicePower, chmod the euclient file [21:30]
danielpbarron: the wiki only says to do it to eu.sh [21:30]
DicePower: ahhh okay [21:30]
danielpbarron: but both should [21:30]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yeah but look at the ls, it is already x'd [21:30]
danielpbarron: shrugs [21:30]
DicePower: Yeah [21:31]
DicePower: I ran it, but I don't think anything changed [21:31]
mircea_popescu: this is pretty weird. [21:31]
danielpbarron: DicePower, what happens if you just type ./euc and then press tab [21:31]
DicePower: Should euclient run on its own? [21:31]
danielpbarron: yes and the eu.sh thing just sets the environment variables and then runs euclient [21:32]
DicePower: danielpbarron: It autocompletes ./euclient [21:32]
mircea_popescu: DicePower what's readelf -a euclient say ? [21:32]
danielpbarron: you could also just copy paste the contents of eu.sh into your terminal for the same effect [21:32]
DicePower: woah [21:33]
DicePower: readelf opened the game [21:33]
mircea_popescu: o.O [21:33]
DicePower: That's a smart elf [21:33]
mircea_popescu: da fuck it's not supposed to do that [21:33]
mircea_popescu: and i dun imagine it actually did [21:33]
DicePower: I have a lot of output I can dpaste if you want, I'm at the login screen atm. [21:34]
danielpbarron: crazy nigbuntu [21:34]
mircea_popescu: well, enjoy lol [21:34]
mircea_popescu: but srsly, readelf is not supposed to run the elf. [21:34]
DicePower: What does it normally do? [21:34]
danielpbarron: type man readelf [21:34]
mircea_popescu: just read the file and say a bunch of stuff about how it's made up. [21:34]
DicePower: Maybe the older command to start the program was buffered? [21:35]
DicePower: And readelf gave it a jolt [21:35]
DicePower: lol [21:35]
danielpbarron: you can quit out and try again [21:35]
DicePower: Yeah I'll play with it for a few mins then try to get the source code running with Eclipse [21:36]
mircea_popescu: DicePower btw, we'd be interested to see your binary. can you post it somewhere ? [21:39]
DicePower: ofc [21:40]
DicePower: Interesting, the client closed when I tried to log in. [21:43]
DicePower: Maybe readelf didn't open it the whole way. [21:43]
DicePower: ./euclient opens the game [21:44]
DicePower: Must be something wrong with my script file. [21:44]
DicePower: hmmm [21:44]
DicePower: So I can get to the login screen, but can't log in. [21:44]
DicePower: The client just dies when I click login after entering credentials. [21:45]
DicePower: Seems to be a symbol lookup error [21:46]
DicePower: dpaste incoming [21:46]
DicePower: dpaste.com/3AG4WCW [21:47]
DicePower: Also feel free to give instructions for me to find the binary data you need whenever. [21:48]
DicePower: On the dpaste, the final line occurs when I try to log in. [21:48]
mircea_popescu: just the file really [21:59]
DicePower: Hmm, like open euclient with text editor? [22:00]
mircea_popescu: that won't work. [22:01]
DicePower: right you are ;P [22:01]
mircea_popescu: do you have a website or anything ? [22:01]
DicePower: nope [22:01]
DicePower: You just want euclient file uploaded? [22:02]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [22:02]
DicePower: okay, I could just google and upload site [22:02]
mircea_popescu: ./euclient: symbol lookup error: /home/admini/dev/cs-forupload/sprcal3d.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11CalCoreBone11getParentIdEv << i'm unfamiliar with this one. mebbe either jurov or DianaComan saw it b4 [22:02]
hanbot: 560k on mcguyver consideration/bod package mircea_popescu [22:07]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 560k hanbot . eta 11:00 ART [22:07]
DicePower: http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g995d7560c1540601999793866698d0c9b8d2a49e1 [22:09]
lobbesbot: Title: Free file sharing without registration and size limits (at www.fileconvoy.com) [22:09]
DicePower: Think that should be what you're after. [22:09]
mircea_popescu: DicePower now do sha512sum euclient [22:09]
DicePower: dpaste.com/2XJ9ZQ [22:10]
mircea_popescu: just put it in here. [22:10]
DicePower: 4e3ed34c7dcaa3b657f3695cbcd700b0ab53d9d314f3e62a8f45522249cab23936167c61e96264e71f8e4daa88a547d8f00ad0341a303fa48d600d3c3d673768 euclient [22:11]
mircea_popescu: 2nd click on the ABC : another ngc, + a bunch of mites and dusts. [22:11]
mircea_popescu: so far it's 3 for 2. [22:11]
DicePower: Why did you want the binary and sha? Just to see it on Zorin? [22:12]
mircea_popescu: guy in another chan asked for it. [22:12]
DicePower: ahhh [22:12]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1417874 [22:12]
lobbesbot: Title: #bitcoin-assets log (at log.bitcoin-assets.com) [22:12]
DicePower: Ohh he had the same there where elf opened his program. [22:14]
DicePower: Oh nvm this is a super recent convo [22:15]
Birdman: <mircea_popescu>anyone got some for sale ? << whatcha paying? [22:16]
Birdman: re: library dusts [22:17]
Birdman: DianaComan how about 3mn for that info on dm [22:17]
danielpbarron: 588k mircea_popescu [22:20]
Birdman: also want me to off my loads of wpl on you mircea_popescu? probably have a couple thousand around q60 [22:21]
DicePower: mircea_popescu: I should be able to record the elf thing if it helps science. It's opened the game all 3 times for me. Gimme a few mins to set up camera. [22:22]
Birdman: oh all my dusts are upwards of q50 [22:24]
Birdman: have like 200k of em [22:24]
Birdman: danielpbarron got some threads on you? ill pay 200 each for q110 [22:25]
danielpbarron: i'm sure you would [22:27]
danielpbarron: what's the point of even saying that [22:27]
Birdman: to try and get threads [22:28]
Gaxaro: Hopefully i get to play tomorrow. [22:34]
Birdman: Gaxaro: <mircea_popescu>Gaxaro you know, yest i said prolly next week. that was saturday, today is sunday, what do you want, miracles ? << cant tell if you're passive agressive, confused, or daft [22:42]
DicePower: mircea_popescu: http://sendvid.com/kfsk24xb [22:44]
lobbesbot: Title: Sendvid - Instant video upload (at sendvid.com) [22:44]
DicePower: Zorinian Elves are special :P [22:45]
danielpbarron: special in the education sense [22:45]
DicePower: Kappa [22:45]
hanbot: 620k on nmc+bod pckg mircea_popescu [22:45]
mircea_popescu: Birdman how about 130\% [22:46]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 588k danielpbarron . eta 11:00 ART [22:46]
danielpbarron: 651k [22:46]
Birdman: on the dusts? [22:46]
hanbot: 700k [22:47]
danielpbarron: 735k [22:47]
mircea_popescu: DicePower you know "elf" just means executable format yes [22:47]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 651k danielpbarron . eta 11:00 ART [22:47]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 735k danielpbarron . eta 11:00 ART [22:47]
hanbot: 800k [22:48]
danielpbarron: 840k [22:48]
hanbot: 900k [22:48]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 800k hanbot ; 200 maculature i q131 + 200 shreddinginstructions opening hmm 100k . eta 11:00 ART [22:48]
danielpbarron: 1 mn [22:48]
DicePower: I prefer to think of it as the bio-mechanism by which OS work is done. [22:49]
mircea_popescu: Birdman you into maculature ? [22:49]
Birdman: now there's a thought [22:49]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 1mn danielpbarron ; 200 maculature i q131 + 200 shreddinginstructions opening hmm 100k . eta 11:00 ART [22:49]
mircea_popescu: odd that the neophyte cons would be this far apart pricewise huh. [22:49]
danielpbarron: is it? [22:49]
hanbot: 1.05MN [22:49]
Birdman: I'd be willing to work the macultures you have into bits and give you the entirety of the results, assuming you provide the screens and clogs [22:49]
Birdman: sort of noob bouqing [22:50]
mircea_popescu: Birdman too much to keep track for me. i'd rather just sell em. [22:50]
Birdman: but if not my screens are too precious to be using to get dusts at such a low price [22:50]
mircea_popescu: Birdman you get 103 lbn per maculatgure. if you can't sell 103 lbn to cover 5k you got a problem eh. [22:51]
Birdman: where's the 5k comin from? [22:51]
mircea_popescu: 5k each * 200 maculatures = 1mn. [22:52]
Birdman: understand first that i paid a high price for screens and clogs [22:52]
mircea_popescu: how much did you pay ? [22:52]
Birdman: though 5k is cheaper than buying all those bps before [22:52]
Birdman: think i paid 200\% on the screens [22:52]
mircea_popescu: aha. [22:52]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 1.05mn hanbot ; 200 maculature i q131 + 200 shreddinginstructions opening hmm 100k . eta 11:00 ART [22:53]
mircea_popescu: ironically enough, the 500k + 1mn bids here cover the cost for my click to get the things, so i'm just out 2 bod so far. not terribru i don't think [22:54]
Birdman: if you sell me screens clogs and the stuff to craft at basevalue ill sell the products of it back at bv [22:56]
mircea_popescu: i prefer to auction the stuff tho. [22:57]
Birdman: well yeah but if you want heaps of the numina thats just my offer [22:58]
hanbot: mircea_popescu 100k on the maculature + instr. [22:58]
Birdman: i profit in exp which i want [22:58]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 1.05mn hanbot ; 200 maculature i q131 + 200 shreddinginstructions 100k heard hanbot . eta 11:00 ART [22:58]
mircea_popescu: you really are winning everything in sight eh hanbot [22:58]
danielpbarron: 1.11 [23:00]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 1.11mn danielpbarron ; 200 maculature i q131 + 200 shreddinginstructions 100k heard hanbot . eta 11:00 ART [23:01]
hanbot: mircea_popescu so far i'm just bidding. [23:01]
mircea_popescu: tru dat [23:01]
mircea_popescu: aww fuck, no loot on 3rd, just numina ;/ [23:03]
mircea_popescu: this just became 3 for 3. [23:03]
mircea_popescu: 4th and last click started. [23:03]
Birdman: digging wpl sucks, stuff is so damn heavy [23:04]
Birdman: 2/4 cs now have done that whole not working thing now [23:06]
Birdman: first time i replaced the cs and tried a dig in the same spot, said i was busy [23:07]
Birdman: unsticking wouldnt work so had to restart the client [23:07]
Birdman: now this next one just didnt work [23:07]
Birdman: and same thing, says im busy even after moving and /unstick [23:08]
Birdman: becoming an expensive problem [23:08]
mircea_popescu: hm [23:09]
Birdman: this is 2 in a row this time mind you [23:09]
mircea_popescu: you know i did like 17 cs hits over at rr never had either of these ? [23:09]
mircea_popescu: are you doing something like moving or something ? [23:09]
Birdman: nah [23:09]
Birdman: this is the first its done the 'already busy' problem, and only time its been back to back [23:10]
mircea_popescu: weird, i'll give ya that. [23:10]
Birdman: i did drop wpl, start the explore and pick it back up but i dont think that effects it [23:10]
mircea_popescu: apparently it does ? [23:11]
mircea_popescu: try just starting it and walking away from machien lol, iot's what i usually do when stick mining [23:11]
Birdman: im not screwin with it lol trust me [23:11]
Birdman: mined with many sticks now [23:11]
Birdman: ill test the picking stuff up, i think i'd have noticed by now if it effected the gather but then again it is making me over weight [23:12]
Birdman: ill test doing the same thing, test with picking it up then starting it, then ill test without touching the wpl [23:12]
Gaxaro: Birdman it's actually monday here lol. [23:13]
Birdman: im 100\% sure if you hang around you'll know when its ready Gaxaro [23:13]
Gaxaro: Yup i know. [23:14]
Birdman: well after a client restart and a needed unstick, it still gives me the busy message when i try to explore [23:15]
Birdman: huh, well its somthing to do with being overweight cause i dropped the wpl and it let me start a stick [23:16]
Birdman: so let it be known not to do cs mining while overweight! [23:16]
Birdman: assuming this stick now works in the end, that is [23:16]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what numina did you want, the gemstone dusts thing ? or the which ? [23:52]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 Neophyte Gumboist Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 500k hanbot ; 1 Neophyte McGuyver Considerations + 1 Black of Desspayr, heard 1.11mn danielpbarron ; 200 maculature i q131 + 200 shreddinginstructions 100k heard hanbot . eta 11:00 ART [23:54]
mircea_popescu: hoooly shit! [23:55]
mircea_popescu: oh my fucking god. [23:55]
mircea_popescu: so... looted 1 neophiote bouquinist considerations, and 145!!!!! apprentice tinkerer cons. [23:55]
mircea_popescu: 4 to 149 so far. [23:56]
mircea_popescu: check tghis shit out, storage says they're 23939 each. so 3155 worth of bv in this loot [23:57]
mircea_popescu: and i didn't even pop [23:57]
DicePower: Anyone know the approx date that stats were made invisible? [23:57]
Birdman: thats what i was getting at before, with the pop questions [23:58]
Birdman: you can loot well over the pop amount, but that doesnt make it a pop [23:58]
Birdman: pop is that .01 ~extra~ [23:59]
Birdman: or more [23:59]

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