| VariaVarietatis: | where can I find a bot/macro for this didn't you post one on your blog mircea_popescu ? | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes i did. two kinds. | [00:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: why two, and where what are the post(s) called? | [00:04] |
| danielpbarron: | VariaVarietatis, xmacro | [00:04] |
| danielpbarron: | what's your operating system? | [00:05] |
| VariaVarietatis: | gentoo | [00:05] |
| danielpbarron: | http://danielpbarron.com/xmacro.tar.gz.sha512.asc.txt | [00:06] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: how do i get the tar.gz out? | [00:09] |
| VariaVarietatis: | oh its just a text file am i looking for that version of of xmacro? | [00:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron.com/xmacro.tar.gz | [00:11] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: got it working but how can I use it to explore got nothing to craft yet. | [00:17] |
| danielpbarron: | you can optionally $ sudo cp xmacro-master/xmacrorec2 /usr/bin/ ; sudo cp xmacro-master/xmacroplay /usr/bin/ | [00:20] |
| danielpbarron: | and then $ xmacrorec2 > temp | [00:21] |
| danielpbarron: | pick an escape key | [00:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i use 'g' for no reason in particular | [00:21] |
| danielpbarron: | besides that i don't think 'g' is used in Eulora for anything | [00:22] |
| danielpbarron: | tab back to game, alt+enter to fullscreen | [00:22] |
| danielpbarron: | do whatever is the thing to be repeated | [00:22] |
| danielpbarron: | press escape key | [00:23] |
| danielpbarron: | back in terminal, $ nano temp | [00:23] |
| danielpbarron: | ctrl+k the first group of lines where you were alt+tabbing to the game | [00:23] |
| danielpbarron: | add delays as needed | [00:24] |
| danielpbarron: | to make the macro wait three seconds, add this line: | [00:24] |
| danielpbarron: | Delay 3 | [00:24] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: how do I set an escape key? | [00:24] |
| danielpbarron: | press it | [00:24] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah ok | [00:24] |
| danielpbarron: | if possible, arrange the macro script so that there is a longer delay at the very start | [00:26] |
| danielpbarron: | 2 or 3 seconds is enough for you to switch back to game after starting the macro | [00:26] |
| danielpbarron: | and here is how to run the script: | [00:26] |
| danielpbarron: | $ while :; do xmacroplay "" < temp; done; | [00:26] |
| danielpbarron: | when you have confirmed that it works the way you wanted it to, you can: | [00:26] |
| danielpbarron: | mv temp whatever_this_action_is.txt | [00:27] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a library of these kinds of files | [00:27] |
| danielpbarron: | this method means that you need to always have the in-game windows in the same positions | [00:27] |
| VariaVarietatis: | got it working but its going too fast. need larger delay | [00:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | doing sed /\n/\nDelay 0.9\n/ herp.txt but its not adding a delay | [00:31] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah that won't work | [00:42] |
| danielpbarron: | only use integers | [00:42] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: | [00:43] |
| VariaVarietatis: | got it working exploring without any hands. | [00:43] |
| VariaVarietatis: | needs a bit of tweaking but working for now. | [00:44] |
| danielpbarron: | http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt | [01:18] |
| diana_coman: | morning | [02:21] |
| diana_coman: | hi VariaVarietatis, was that you Varia in game? I just saw the messages now, I was afk, sorry | [02:22] |
| diana_coman: | let me know when you get back in game and will set you up for some mining, sure | [02:23] |
| diana_coman: | or even tinkering if you want to | [02:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | VariaVarietatis xmacro only considers integer delay values, sadly. | [02:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | nfi who came up with that stupidity. | [02:23] |
| diana_coman: | oh, ordinary eps | [02:24] |
| diana_coman: | mhm | [02:24] |
| diana_coman: | 302 eps? omg | [02:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [02:25] |
| diana_coman: | I've been looking for elusive snails the whole night, lol | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | and I got 302 eps and 1 ordinary | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | amazing | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | overweight with eps | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | this is a first, lol | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | as another first, it is actually a quite clearly positive run | [02:31] |
| diana_coman: | so I guess I'm doing all right, mircea_popescu: 41 worn-out hoes for 302 eps that makes it a very good 135 coppers/eps | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | good for you. | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | I got more sb too | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you ready to do the same with the wm ? | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | will you make pps and toothepaste? | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | I will try, though yesterday I poked around them and ugh, it was horrible | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | I got onto eps as they are needed for the sb ordinaries (of which I had a bunch) | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | well what would you prefer, the stick branch first ? | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | absolutely | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok, mine all the sb ords, then bring me back the lot. | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill convert to ppb and ft tomorrow. | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | I might use some to get wm if it is otherwise still horrible | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | leaving it to thread overnight | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | sounds good | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | then with the sticks you can wm/moss and make the io | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | then i make slag you make tools then you wear down tools and then i make toolkits | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | which is about fucking time, im on my last one | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | and without toolkits we can't bms which means no imp hoes. | [02:35] |
| diana_coman: | oh about toolkits I prolly have a few tools, though not really for a proper run | [02:39] |
| diana_coman: | also: do you need any recipes to shred a bit? I am getting very low on bits of nothing really | [02:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | ehehe. my table is gone. i won't be doing any further shredding for a while. | [02:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i do have plenty of recipes. | [02:41] |
| diana_coman: | oh, then I'd buy some for sure | [02:41] |
| diana_coman: | will go through the list and see what I need exactly | [02:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [02:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's a pretty hefty list, i spent ~1 hour getting everything prepped when i did my shredding run few days ago. | [02:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you want advice from experience : split the recipes in two types. type A you don't have enough of, and make stacks of 101. type B you have plenty of, make stacks of 9999 | [02:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | then once all is piled up together, sort them in your inv, shift-click on the 101 stacks, then move on to the 9999 stacks (take 99 out of them) | [02:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | a full run like this will cut ~200k durability off the table. and produce... 101 lbn | [02:43] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I was doing something like that, but it was ages ago | [02:52] |
| diana_coman: | I am quite sure there are now a few that I am really low on, so will have to see | [02:52] |
| chetty: | morning | [03:40] |
| diana_coman: | morning chetty | [03:54] |
| diana_coman: | how's it going? | [03:55] |
| chetty: | pretty good, nice to see the server keeps on running :) | [03:57] |
| diana_coman: | indeed, that's great really :) | [04:08] |
| chetty: | letting me get some work done on the next upgrade :) | [04:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, it never crashed once did it. | [05:58] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha mircea_popescu and the stairs of shiny rock shards | [07:16] |
| diana_coman: | is that on purpose or something wrong with the macro? lolz | [07:17] |
| chetty: | pretty sure he isnt around just running bot, is it going crazy? | [07:21] |
| diana_coman: | he went it | [07:21] |
| diana_coman: | in | [07:21] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, it was the macro running crazy I think :)) | [07:21] |
| chetty: | I am left wondering if I should kick players when their bots act up | [07:24] |
| diana_coman: | depends on definition of "act up" | [07:24] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: he built some stairs of shiny rock shard recipes, so what's the trouble exactly? | [07:24] |
| diana_coman: | I would see it making sense if it's acting up in the sense of stuck and bombarding the server with repeat unproductive requests | [07:25] |
| diana_coman: | or such | [07:25] |
| diana_coman: | but otherwise can't really see the point | [07:25] |
| chetty: | yeah well unless someone says something I only notice the ones that hit the server weird anyway :) | [07:55] |
| chetty: | server reset in 5 | [10:08] |
| chetty: | done | [10:15] |
| danielpbarron: | were those my recipes? | [10:58] |
| danielpbarron: | i lost all my looted recipes from last night | [10:59] |
| danielpbarron: | could only find my slag and slag ingredients when i noticed it was "acting up" | [10:59] |
| danielpbarron: | and wtf why does the macro have to start dumping everything on the ground when it messes up?? | [11:00] |
| danielpbarron: | and why do people have to keep walking over my table when i'm away | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | I'm actually quite curious how/why does the macro act up in the first place, danielpbarron? | [11:30] |
| danielpbarron: | when people stand on my craft table | [11:30] |
| diana_coman: | (not sure what recipes you're talking about and/or what walking over tables but we) | [11:30] |
| danielpbarron: | or when they offer a trade | [11:31] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [11:31] |
| danielpbarron: | anything that makes the mouseclick hit the wrong thing | [11:31] |
| danielpbarron: | and once it's off the rails it stays off | [11:31] |
| danielpbarron: | what happened to the "staircase" of recipes? | [11:31] |
| diana_coman: | I see, guess it's time I get back on the foxybot | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | mp got them back | [11:32] |
| chetty: | maybe make a craft table and use it away from the area to reduce interference? | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | he got in game and got them back, but surely they were not yours | [11:32] |
| danielpbarron: | i need to stand next to the npc for training | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, you could make the macro walk for training too? | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | if you need it? | [11:32] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [11:32] |
| danielpbarron: | that is not possible | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | how's that, doesn't the macro for mining walk? | [11:33] |
| danielpbarron: | yes | [11:33] |
| danielpbarron: | it doesn't know where it is walking | [11:33] |
| danielpbarron: | and it runs supervised | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [11:33] |
| chetty: | the simple clicker macro really cant tell whats going on | [11:33] |
| danielpbarron: | yes you have an extreme advantage in mining right now | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, I "have" as if it fell on me from the skies | [11:34] |
| chetty: | lmao | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | i didn't say how you got it, but I don't know why you would ever release it | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm gonna have to get back into programming | [11:34] |
| diana_coman: | about your recipes I guess that if they were dumped on the ground and stayed for long, the sweeper got them in the end, no? | [11:35] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess so | [11:35] |
| diana_coman: | sucks | [11:36] |
| danielpbarron: | when then do i still have the slag flotsam and shiny rock? | [11:36] |
| danielpbarron: | those were also dumped on the ground | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | that's interesting | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | omg, a bit earlier I *did* see those things next to you | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | including some recipes | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | I did not know what you were doing, lol | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | but I just thought you took them again at some point | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | I guess though that if you are that close to heina you can't really expect nobody will ever get in your way | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing for instance my bot comes back for training and well, it doesn't know where you are really | [11:38] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-30.log.html#t19:16:09 << mircea_popescu, @seen should work | [11:38] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Sunday, 2015-08-30 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [11:38] |
| lobbes: | @seen birdman | [11:38] |
| lobbesbot: | lobbes: birdman was last seen in #eulora 2 days, 9 hours, 17 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Birdman> woot | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | it just heads towards heina | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | it might have walked over your table for all I know (I have no idea) | [11:38] |
| thestringpuller: | @seen lobbes | [11:38] |
| lobbesbot: | thestringpuller: lobbes was last seen in #eulora 14 seconds ago: <lobbes> @seen birdman | [11:38] |
| chetty: | ahh thats nice, we are getting fancy with the chan bot here :) | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | mhm, things got *suspiciously* positive on the mining front, gotta wonder whether there was a trickle of new loot into the pools, lol | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | or I got that much ahead or my luck turned all of a sudden in mysterious ways (ha ha) | [11:40] |
| chetty: | only the shadow knows | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | as for the bots I plan to release a new version of the craft bot for sure, but I just did not get around to it at all those days | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | so not sure when will that be | [11:43] |
| danielpbarron: | if the craftbot will be able to work while overloaded and still train, then i should prefer it to my macro | [11:44] |
| danielpbarron: | for most of september october and november i'm going to be too busy to actually play | [11:45] |
| danielpbarron: | gonna mostly leave my character crafting | [11:45] |
| danielpbarron: | oh that reminds me | [11:46] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, do you have basic supplication drafts somehow? | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | or is birdman the only one who has those? | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | what is "basic"? | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | leather etc | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | I think I have some, gotta check next time when I'm back in town | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't want the drafts per se | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | i want high quality supplications | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | birdman's rank is too low | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | and he doesn't think he can afford to train it right now | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I think that supplications themselves are made with bouq? | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | yes | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | (I can't quite remember, haven't done any bouq in some time) | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | they are | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i think i'd prefer mircea_popescu to make them | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i think he has the highest rank | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | I would have to check what q I get, but as I said, I haven't done it in ages so not sure, logically I'd expect birdman's to be higher perhaps? | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | he is out of screens, lol | [11:49] |
| danielpbarron: | no he's the lowest | [11:49] |
| danielpbarron: | no he has screens | [11:49] |
| danielpbarron: | he lost one but has more | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | mp told me that his screens are worn out | [11:49] |
| danielpbarron: | can't be | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | I asked him about some bits of nothing, lolz | [11:49] |
| danielpbarron: | oh mp's are | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | so what q does birdman get? | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | very low | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | he has barely practiced it | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i get higher | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I thought he was seriously onto that | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | but i sold my screens to him | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | so sacrifice is waiting on that situation | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | precisely my point, he was all about monopoly etc that I thought he was seriously onto it | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, sucks | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i dont' want to waste my very expensive altar on low quality ingredients | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | can't he at least sell those screens back? | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | yes that was my thought | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i will have to yell at him | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I'll have a look at what q I get | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i think i recall you saying you had basic supplication drafts somehow | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | I am all for training my bouq higher, but really I have lots of things going on too so this was kind of put on the back burner for a while | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | which confused me because why did birdman pay 1mn for the leather ones if you could also get them | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | I think he wondered that too | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | so that is in fact the case? | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, iirc I have supplication draft | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | drafts | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | anyone can get the basic supplication drafts as loot from the advanced ones? | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | and mp has more so prolly I can even buy some more from him if I need them | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | not just any drafts | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | I think I got them from shredding | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | specifically the basic ones | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, the wpl for sure | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i have drafts too from shredding, but they are for things like murky and mysterious rocks etc | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | well, the supplication of leather thing | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah then why did birdman pay 1mn? | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | I think it was broken initially and it did not give those, but then it was fixed | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | if it trigged everyone to get them for free? | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | that only he knows, but I suspect he just did not realise he could get them from shredding esp as his level was low | [11:54] |
| danielpbarron: | i didn't realize that either | [11:54] |
| danielpbarron: | did everyone realize this but us? | [11:54] |
| diana_coman: | how would I know that? | [11:54] |
| diana_coman: | I wasn't sure, but I did the test and I got them, that's all I know, lol | [11:55] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, 5 min and I'll check what I have | [11:55] |
| diana_coman: | maybe it's still not those, though I think I remember birdman wondering at some point exactly why did he pay to get them when he would get a ton for free | [11:56] |
| chetty: | seems we are all learning how this works .... | [11:57] |
| diana_coman: | I have "standard supplication of leather" | [11:57] |
| diana_coman: | is that what you meant, danielpbarron? | [11:57] |
| diana_coman: | though quality on it is 59 so not big thing | [11:58] |
| diana_coman: | I might get more (or less) now | [11:58] |
| danielpbarron: | it should be possible for me to buy them at quailty 200 | [11:58] |
| danielpbarron: | as that is the quality of the bits of nothing i have seen | [11:59] |
| danielpbarron: | if yours come out 59 then my rank is higher | [11:59] |
| diana_coman: | I think that's what mp gets | [11:59] |
| diana_coman: | as I said, I did not use bouq in ages, so quite probably it is | [11:59] |
| diana_coman: | what quality do you get? | [11:59] |
| danielpbarron: | over 100 i believe | [11:59] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, the funny thing is that I surely got the bits of nothing at higher q than that | [12:00] |
| diana_coman: | so not sure what is going on, lolz | [12:00] |
| danielpbarron: | than what? 200? | [12:00] |
| diana_coman: | oh well, time for a shred then | [12:00] |
| diana_coman: | no, greather than 59 I meant | [12:00] |
| diana_coman: | omg, how can this be? | [12:10] |
| diana_coman: | I got 1 bit of nothing? 1?? | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah danielpbarron, I got as it were only creaky vellum, but quality is 158 on it | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | so that should be what I get for the leather supp too, but obviously *if* I get them | [12:12] |
| jurov: | VariaVarietatis: tell me when you're online | [12:12] |
| danielpbarron: | oo | [12:14] |
| danielpbarron: | make me some quality 150+ supplications | [12:14] |
| diana_coman: | do you have any blueprints for: hoof gloves, neckerbocker, somewhat fashionable hat, flinty toothpaste,indistinguishable toupe? | [12:15] |
| diana_coman: | as in: do you sell? | [12:15] |
| danielpbarron: | i have something like 50 of each of those | [12:16] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, everybody seems to be low on those | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i've already tried the leather and berries, and would like to try the other basic supplications | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i can provide the enumerations | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | what are other basic? (knew only about the leather ones) | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | as basic I mean | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | leather, berries, polished stones, | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | birdman published a list | [12:18] |
| diana_coman: | oh, those were basic | [12:18] |
| danielpbarron: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rpgAMj2F | [12:18] |
| danielpbarron: | thorns and moss | [12:18] |
| danielpbarron: | are the other two | [12:18] |
| diana_coman: | well, I can try, but this test run got me no supp whatsoever (only creaky vellum) | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | so yeah i want supplication of thorns, moss, and stones | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | ok, will let you know if I get any | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | oh you don't have the blueprints? | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | well hold on a sec | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | I have only for leather I think | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | birdman has plenty of the drafts | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | not bp | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | just supps | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: not drafts, just supps (they are bps of course) | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | drafts are supplication blueprints | [12:20] |
| diana_coman: | so what I have is called "supplication of leather" (those q59 of earlier) and it is a blueprint to obtain "inconsequential sacrifice token", yes | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | so if i get drafts from birdman, and provide my own enumerations, what do you want in exchange for making them into supplications? is the exp enough? | [12:21] |
| diana_coman: | but I guess I need the drafts of those bp as it were to make more | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | oh you don't have any drafts of the leather? | [12:21] |
| diana_coman: | I would do a couple for exp only, but prolly after that we see | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | how did you get the supplication then? | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | well, xp and loot | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | I would give you the result, but I keep the loot | [12:22] |
| danielpbarron: | that is fine | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | I start thinking I might have gotten those from birdman maybe, that would explain the low q too | [12:23] |
| diana_coman: | maybe that's the thing | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | ah so he just sold you a finished supplication? and not a draft | [12:23] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, he would get a ton of free drafts but basically because of having the first/starter ones as it were | [12:23] |
| diana_coman: | I prolly gave him the enums and he gave me that in return | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | ah | [12:23] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose, I really don't quite remember | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | so then i guess he does in fact have the only basic supplication drafts | [12:24] |
| diana_coman: | in any case: if you give me the supp drafts and enums, I will give you the result for now | [12:24] |
| diana_coman: | it might be | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | well that changes things quite a bit | [12:24] |
| diana_coman: | guess so | [12:25] |
| diana_coman: | but tbh I'd say you should prolly shred | [12:27] |
| diana_coman: | as you might get those easier than me | [12:27] |
| diana_coman: | seeing your bouq level is lower | [12:27] |
| danielpbarron: | they don't come from shredding | [12:28] |
| danielpbarron: | they come from making basic supplications | [12:28] |
| diana_coman: | I think they DO come from shredding too | [12:28] |
| diana_coman: | they surely come from making basic supps, of course | [12:28] |
| diana_coman: | as any other bp, you get more of what you are making | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i never got any from shredding, or you're saying they do now? | [12:29] |
| diana_coman: | but iirc they were supposed to come from shredding but there was a glitch/error and they didn't and then that got fixed | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | no i mean making basic supplications gives you drafts of the other ones | [12:29] |
| diana_coman: | guess no other way to check than to do a proper shred run | [12:29] |
| diana_coman: | yes, the leather ones | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i think the error was mp forgot you need basic supplications to make other basic supplications | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | drafts rather | [12:30] |
| danielpbarron: | and he never put any of those drafts out there | [12:30] |
| danielpbarron: | i told birdman to get on irc | [12:30] |
| danielpbarron: | if anyone knows, he does | [12:30] |
| diana_coman: | my understanding was that he forgot to add them to get looted from bouq and then he added then, but well, could be what you say, I don't know | [12:31] |
| diana_coman: | did he actually do a lot of shredding? | [12:31] |
| diana_coman: | after the correction I mean | [12:31] |
| danielpbarron: | yes | [12:32] |
| diana_coman: | ok, ask him then | [12:34] |
| diana_coman: | actually maybe meanwhile they even moved entirely for all I know, lol | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | so I guess if you want to get this moving,the fastest/surest way is to just buy some drafts from birdman | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu do you have any drafts of supplication of leather/berries/moss/stones/thorns? | [12:50] |
| danielpbarron: | thing is, once he sells even 1 of them, the cat is out of the bagt | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | mp might have got some or at least we will know if you can still get them | [12:51] |
| danielpbarron: | someone who has an interest in advancing bouq should buy them from him | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | he did a big run a bit earlier and he got a lot | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | I thought you had an interest in that really | [12:52] |
| danielpbarron: | not in ranking it up | [12:52] |
| danielpbarron: | my interest is in sacrifice | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | no, in having someone with high bouq skill | [12:52] |
| danielpbarron: | i will pay premiums to get supplications | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | I'll wait for mp first in any case and tbh atm I am not that much on bouq - I am willing to train it, sure, but I am not into all this monopoly game thing | [12:53] |
| diana_coman: | I think we need to get the sacrifice line going | [12:54] |
| danielpbarron: | monopoly isn't possible in eulora | [12:54] |
| diana_coman: | it's been more than 1 month | [12:54] |
| diana_coman: | well, that is my thinking, yes, but you seem to keep trying, lol | [12:54] |
| diana_coman: | or you and birdman | [12:54] |
| danielpbarron: | was not my intention | [12:54] |
| diana_coman: | anyway: any answer from birdman? | [12:55] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [12:55] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, it seems that any combine with wrong ingredients or the like basically fails afterwards to reset the state to peace/not working (one needs to move in order to do that, so surely not the end of anything, but it can get truly annoying and not sure it's intended really) | [12:58] |
| danielpbarron: | jumping works | [12:59] |
| chetty: | diana_coman, can you say what error message you get on those fails? | [13:00] |
| diana_coman: | this time I had the wrong ingredients | [13:00] |
| diana_coman: | that was correct btw | [13:00] |
| chetty: | yes, but what does the server say? you don't seem to have the right ... or something like that? | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | lemme check exactly | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | you do not have the right amount of the right items for what you have in mind | [13:02] |
| diana_coman: | and then "you cannot check storage because you are already busy" (hence I thought it doesn't reset the "working" state) | [13:02] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, after movement it gives: you stopped workgin | [13:03] |
| chetty: | ok, got it, next time I reset I'll fix that | [13:05] |
| diana_coman: | that's great, thanks | [13:05] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron how much do you want for those hat blueprints? | [13:11] |
| diana_coman: | somewhat fashionable hat | [13:12] |
| VariaVarietatis: | I broke my hoe how many uses do you get from a hoe before it breaks? | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | each attempt wears it down a bit | [13:17] |
| diana_coman: | check its quality | [13:17] |
| diana_coman: | when the quality is too low, you can't use it anymore | [13:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i think i'll hold onto the blueprints for now | [13:17] |
| diana_coman: | I think I wear it down about 200 points per attempt, but not sure if that is constant for everyone (it might depend on skill?) | [13:17] |
| danielpbarron: | see what birdman wants to do | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, do you have the bps then? | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | I don't follow anymore, lol | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | I thought only birdman had them? | [13:18] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i have all the blueprints needed to shred | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | oh, those | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | not the draft ones | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [13:18] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: its quality 2 | [13:18] |
| danielpbarron: | and really, tool wear is different per player? | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | yes, now that it is worn out | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | take a new one, check its quality, do 1 explore, check again the quality of the tool | [13:19] |
| diana_coman: | not per player, but maybe per skill? | [13:19] |
| diana_coman: | not sure, I did not really track it properly | [13:19] |
| danielpbarron: | i doubt it's skill based; the numbers didn't change for me while i was making the 3 sets of 9 tools for the event | [13:19] |
| diana_coman: | oh, ok then | [13:19] |
| diana_coman: | easier | [13:19] |
| danielpbarron: | might be stat based | [13:20] |
| danielpbarron: | as in, different for each character | [13:20] |
| diana_coman: | could be | [13:20] |
| danielpbarron: | i published my numbers | [13:20] |
| danielpbarron: | can't recall off top of my head | [13:20] |
| diana_coman: | anyway VariaVarietatis if you want, I can just dig some claims for you, pass you the scrolls and some thread and you split the loot with me | [13:21] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: sounds good need to skill up my building. | [13:21] |
| diana_coman: | yes, that will help with that for sure | [13:21] |
| diana_coman: | do you have any coarse frangible thread? | [13:22] |
| diana_coman: | and/or any bits of nothing? | [13:22] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: 3x | [13:22] |
| diana_coman: | oh, that won't get you far, lol | [13:22] |
| VariaVarietatis: | I have over 100 nothing. | [13:22] |
| diana_coman: | that's ok for the tiny then | [13:22] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: let me skill up then I will help over your dig site. | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | train if that's what you mean | [13:23] |
| VariaVarietatis: | train yea | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | but after that just come as it's ok, I'm not after quality | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, atm I am doing a shredding thing and will go and dig a bit for you after that | [13:24] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: what are you shreadding, and what does it do? | [13:24] |
| diana_coman: | have a look here: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/index.html | [13:24] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Euloran Cookbook Version 1.1 (at www.dianacoman.com) | [13:24] |
| diana_coman: | it makes bits of nothing basically | [13:24] |
| diana_coman: | but you need a diff skill | [13:24] |
| diana_coman: | have you read the wiki? and http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/ ? | [13:25] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: yea yesterday great post. still reading the wiki | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | thanks :) | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | ok, shredding done, are you ready? | [13:27] |
| VariaVarietatis: | nope just finding my way to crafting table area | [13:27] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, I need to go in about 5-10 minutes so maybe we leave it for when I get back then, in about 1.5 hrs | [13:27] |
| diana_coman: | you can still find me (will leave it exploring) and get the keys from my claims perhaps as they will turn into bits of nothing | [13:28] |
| diana_coman: | just better not mix them with any higher quality bits you have (they'll be 1 or some such) | [13:28] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok diana_coman thanks. | [13:28] |
| diana_coman: | np | [13:28] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: pos? | [13:31] |
| diana_coman: | 79.25 36.44 232.87 | [13:31] |
| diana_coman: | quite close to the village, just come down to the side towards the starting place | [13:31] |
| diana_coman: | come to think about it curious if you can get the keys, as the claims might still be "guarded" unless I get far enough from them | [13:32] |
| diana_coman: | well, have a look and see | [13:32] |
| diana_coman: | I wear down 187 from a cruddy hoe per /explore | [13:33] |
| diana_coman: | I think it used to be different, danielpbarron | [13:33] |
| diana_coman: | but I might be wrong | [13:33] |
| danielpbarron: | that sounds like the same number | [13:33] |
| danielpbarron: | that i had | [13:33] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so then that's it, it's fixed, simple | [13:33] |
| danielpbarron: | yep | [13:34] |
| danielpbarron: | you can use up 3 of the 9k hoes (mining tinies as you go) before your first claim is swept up | [13:35] |
| danielpbarron: | but that's cutting it really close | [13:35] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: I found a foxy lady but can't click her sticks? | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | what does it say? | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | that's me, yes | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | try those that are furthest from me | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | I think you should be able to at least open them | [13:36] |
| VariaVarietatis: | you cannot take an item from locked container | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you got a locked one | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | try a fresh one that is not locked | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | I don't lock them | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | you must have tried on an older one | [13:36] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: got a key from your stick. | [13:37] |
| danielpbarron: | just tested my altar, thing has 89 uses left in it | [13:46] |
| VariaVarietatis: | cant seem to put anything in your sticks. getting locked still. text says Guarded by foxy foxster | [13:46] |
| danielpbarron: | VariaVarietatis, you are supposed to just take the keys | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | and they will turn into bits of nothing in an hour or so | [13:47] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah ok danielpbarron thanks. | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | don't follow me around taking my keys though | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a different method | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | and yeah, 89 sacrifices i can make | [13:48] |
| danielpbarron: | defo want the highest quality stuff | [13:48] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: only farming keys for foxy right now. | [13:48] |
| danielpbarron: | it's not for her | [13:49] |
| danielpbarron: | it's for you | [13:49] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: how can i build a more powerful hoe that wont break when im botting? | [13:49] |
| danielpbarron: | the keys would go away otherwise | [13:49] |
| danielpbarron: | you can't | [13:49] |
| danielpbarron: | all tools break | [13:49] |
| danielpbarron: | foxy wrote her own thing that replaces tools as it breaks them | [13:49] |
| VariaVarietatis: | smart | [13:50] |
| danielpbarron: | and xmacro could be used to do something similar | [13:50] |
| danielpbarron: | you can periodically place the working tool into the stack of new tools | [13:50] |
| danielpbarron: | and they will all average out quality | [13:50] |
| danielpbarron: | not the most efficient way.. | [13:50] |
| danielpbarron: | and you'd still be missing all claims greater than tiny | [13:50] |
| danielpbarron: | unless you checked in on the thing every half hour or so | [13:51] |
| danielpbarron: | and in that case, what's the point | [13:51] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: gonna try that in a little gotta get some more stuff to vendor so I can buy a new hoe | [13:52] |
| jurov: | VariaVarietatis: you still want to buy coppers? | [13:55] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: no I got some to train and no money. | [13:56] |
| jurov: | i don'tunderstand | [13:56] |
| jurov: | oh you don't have bitcoin , you mean? | [13:57] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: yea. | [13:57] |
| VariaVarietatis: | already in debt to danielpbarron too. | [13:57] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: how do I go from keys to building again? | [14:18] |
| VariaVarietatis: | can I xmacro picking up keys the sticks seem to be in random spots | [14:26] |
| jurov: | VariaVarietatis: there's much simpler method without need for xmacro, even | [14:33] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: how? | [14:33] |
| jurov: | oh you mean inside the sticks.. nm then | [14:34] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yea I went a little wild letting my macro break my only tool last night after getting it working. | [14:35] |
| VariaVarietatis: | didnt build anything. opps | [14:35] |
| jurov: | you mean you started messing with macros immediately after arriving? | [14:37] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: followed diana_coman's guide it was the last step. I was just so happy to not be /exploring by hand let it run until tool broke | [14:38] |
| diana_coman: | VariaVarietatis are you coming for a mine run? | [14:47] |
| jurov: | kek | [14:49] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: check last few log lines | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | will do, thanks jurov | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so no btc and burnt the tool | [15:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: trying to build on what you gave me but it keep saying you need to target the item what does that mean? | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | click on the claim again | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | it lost target of the claim | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | a click on the right stick or open it again and it should be fine | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | bots/macros do the work for you but you still need to decide on what should be done I guess | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | maybe I should add a warning there or you leave a comment to that effect I guess | [15:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: yea not getting anywhere tried thread tried the grass says it doens't know what do with x number of what I give it, | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | does it match what it's written on the scroll? | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | maybe go through the guide again and look at that step | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | it's quite detailed in there | [15:06] |
| diana_coman: | if it's a small and you put more than 1 thread (as you should btw) put all of them in a single stack | [15:06] |
| diana_coman: | NOT separate | [15:06] |
| diana_coman: | as it will not know what to do with them | [15:06] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: now its telling me can only work on one item at a time. | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | you need "combine" for a small claim | [15:07] |
| VariaVarietatis: | I added thread and dried grass stack to my small clump of dry grass | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | no | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | no | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | just thread, lol | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | so: small enumeration into the brain, got that? | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | your 3 threads (all of them in one stack) into the claim | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | click combine | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | that's it | [15:08] |
| VariaVarietatis: | not sure what to do with 3 thread | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | move them to the claim container | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | have you opened the claim container? | [15:09] |
| VariaVarietatis: | they are in the container | [15:09] |
| VariaVarietatis: | thats the error | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | no | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | anything else in the container? | [15:09] |
| VariaVarietatis: | nope | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | good | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | then click on combine | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | not "use" | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | second button from top | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | lefthand side of the claim | [15:09] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: got it | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | citing from the guide: "Then click on â\u0080\u009Cuseâ\u0080\u009D for a tiny claim or â\u0080\u009Ccombineâ\u0080\u009D for a small claim (buttons on the left-hand side of the claim window, first from top and second from top respectively)" | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | ahem | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | do read please | [15:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: need to reread it and your other posts just found them yesterday sadly. | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | they won't go anywhere | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | no hurry | [15:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: now im out of thread how do i keep building? | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | build the tiny claims | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | as you need just bits of nothing | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | but check if you don't need to train | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | as otherwise you'll lose the exp | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | btw how much grass did you get from that small claim and what quality were your threads? | [15:12] |
| VariaVarietatis: | I need to train building its yellow/red but small bit of nothing wont combine on my tiny clump of dried grass | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | yes, the bits of nothing don't combine | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | they get used | [15:12] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: 23 | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | it's "use" for a tiny, "combine" for a small | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | so go back to village and train | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | and while you are there come so that I give you some higher q threads | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | did you get 23 grass? | [15:13] |
| diana_coman: | that's quite cool actually for 3 low q threads | [15:13] |
| diana_coman: | you are on the positive there | [15:13] |
| VariaVarietatis: | :) running hot today | [15:14] |
| VariaVarietatis: | traiend up going back to build some more. | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | well done | [15:18] |
| diana_coman: | do you have the tinkering skill? (Craft tab) | [15:19] |
| VariaVarietatis: | no should I get it? | [15:19] |
| VariaVarietatis: | don't I need to find my skills on the ground? coudln't find anything after spawning had to get it my skills from mircea_popescu. | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | they are not spawning anymore so you can't find them anymore | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | so yes | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | you need to get them from someone | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | if they give them away or if they sell them | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | you'd need the chicken scribblings, do you have that? | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | (item) | [15:21] |
| VariaVarietatis: | Nope don't have it. | [15:22] |
| VariaVarietatis: | I only got the building/exploring ones. | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | I see | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | no worries, work on getting those up | [15:24] |
| VariaVarietatis: | trying to find my way back to our claims | [15:25] |
| VariaVarietatis: | -169 -144 | [15:25] |
| VariaVarietatis: | back at it. | [15:26] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: my mind wants thread for this tiny clump of dry grass. | [15:28] |
| VariaVarietatis: | but thought you said I only need nothing? | [15:28] |
| diana_coman: | yes, you need bit of nothing, but did you change the enum to a tiny enum? | [15:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | oh its a small scroll don't have a tiny one. | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | check in inventory... | [15:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yea don't see it, you gave me two but only have this one? | [15:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | did I lose it when i trained? | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | I gave you 2 small enums | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | and about 20 I think tiny | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | the enums get used up when you build a claim | [15:31] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah, found it thought that was the grass | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | so yes, you built 1 small claim hence 1 enum is gone | [15:31] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: it tells me "You can not practice your trade when working." after clicking use with 102 nothing in the container | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | oh, move a bit | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | and then try again the whole thing | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, not sure if that's the same issue we were talking about earlier ^ | [15:37] |
| VariaVarietatis: | tiny clump of dry grass ennum and tiny dry grass maker, 105 nothing. this doesn't seem to be right amount to do anythign useful | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | read the scroll VariaVarietatis... | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | what does it say? | [15:37] |
| jurov: | tiny claims take exactly 1 piece of nothing | [15:37] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: extract with little bit of nothing. | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [15:37] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: he's prolly too overjoyed to read scrolls :D | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | seems so, yeah | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | as jurov said: only 1 | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | and "use" (not combine) | [15:38] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: seems to have the right idea this game is great. | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | it is :) | [15:38] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: ok got some grass for you sadly couldn't use my other small claim due to using all my thread up on the first one opps. | [15:48] |
| VariaVarietatis: | must be why I got so much grass? 3 thread | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | that's ok, I'll give you more thread | [15:48] |
| VariaVarietatis: | come to me? | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | I did not want to give you thread at the start because it would have mixed | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | no, I'm at 6.50 44 292 | [15:49] |
| VariaVarietatis: | on my way. | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | and no, you'll prolly get even more grass with my thread (and use all 7 of them) | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | but keep the grass you got so far as you used your own thread and bits of nothing | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | it's yours | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | btw, what client do you have? do you have /pilot? | [15:52] |
| VariaVarietatis: | 0.1.0 | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | what OS? | [15:52] |
| VariaVarietatis: | gentoo | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so then you should be able to recompile easily, maybe get my code with the craft bot and /pilot | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | the /pilot will help you a lot with getting to precise pos | [15:53] |
| VariaVarietatis: | i got /pilot points me in the right direction? | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [15:54] |
| VariaVarietatis: | found you. | [15:54] |
| jurov: | if you feel adventurous, i published patch for /mine too (does /explore + build tiny and small automatically) | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | so 138 grass out of 21 tiny claims + 1 small claim with 3 threads (low q) | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | quite good | [15:57] |
| chetty: | <diana_coman> chetty, not sure if that's the same issue we were talking about earlier ^// not sure I follow what the action was, "use with 102 nothing"???? | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | he put 102 bits of nothing in a tiny claim | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | and tried to use that | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | of course it failed, but then apparently it still considered he was working | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | so no state reset again | [16:01] |
| chetty: | oh haha interesting try and yeah that would be the same errors | [16:01] |
| chetty: | I put found fixes for several similar conditions, but I dont really want to do another reset right now | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | no worries, just wasn't sure if it was the same error | [16:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: everything seems locked now or can't find the stick? | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | you can't find it or it got sweeped away possibly | [16:04] |
| chetty: | VariaVarietatis, unlocked markers are cleaned up after about an hour, in a useless to keep the landscape cleaned up | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | chetty I certainly messed up the things without meaning too as I thought the claims without a key will get sweeped too, even if locked | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | so now there are quite a number of claims that are locked but without keys I'm afraid :( | [16:12] |
| chetty: | all tiny? | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | smalls too | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | initially the bot would lock anything that it couldn't build | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | I foolishly did not think it would run out of bits of nothing over night... | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | but it did | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | so it locked the claims:))) | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | and I thought that if I just throw away the keys, they would get sweeped and then the claims too | [16:15] |
| chetty: | well one of these days we will have to try and figure out a way to clean them up without hurting claims people want | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | after that I changed it to lock only ordinaries or better, but ... | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | well, locked and without key I guess would be good to go as anyway nobody can access them | [16:17] |
| chetty: | I am afraid the key/marker function is not transitive | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [16:17] |
| chetty: | but I think we can do some script to search the db for keys that go with locked markers and make a list of those not found ...something along those lines | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | that sounds pretty much it | [16:19] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: got your sticks | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | well done | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | what do you want to do really? happy to mine some more ? | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt | [16:52] |
| danielpbarron: | top item is located right in town | [16:53] |
| danielpbarron: | claim stick is like a showroom | [16:53] |
| danielpbarron: | i learned a bit about the naming scheme | [16:54] |
| danielpbarron: | and that piles of items are 'colored' | [16:55] |
| danielpbarron: | they keep a memory of what was mixed together to make that average quality and name | [16:55] |
| danielpbarron: | so two stacks of quality 285 fruit are not identical | [16:55] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't know if the name effects anything | [16:56] |
| danielpbarron: | but if you mix 5 'finest' something with 1 standard/no-name you get 6 'finest' | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | but those 6 finest are different from say 6 finest from the original pile | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | if you mix in another standard, it downgrades to 'extraordinary' | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | same quality | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | that's interesting | [16:58] |
| danielpbarron: | and extraordinary will eventually get bumped down to 'superior' | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | is that eps from the altar? | [16:58] |
| danielpbarron: | those are what i want to buy | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | I read that as 1k q, my bad | [16:58] |
| danielpbarron: | and i guess i should say that i want extraordinary or superior and not finest | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | finest is particularly hard to aquire | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | nope | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | for example, your bot cannot get finest | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | I make finest | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | oh yes | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | it does | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | even the looted items are finest? | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | they aren't one quality point less? | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | they are I think, but still finest | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | weird | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | i wonder if that's because you don't have sortage | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | well then i'll leave it as finest | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | I got confused though as you wrote there finest and now you say you want superior or extraordinary and not fines?T | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I got it now | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | i suspect that the name doesn't matter, and is just a way of showing about how good that quality is in the world | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | I think it's more about the level or something, as it used to be as you say | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | it seems that we would quite do well with a proper bid/ask system and place but uhm | [17:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: I got too many branchs and cant move now | [17:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: want to come make a pickup? | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | move some of them into a claim | [17:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, ok | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | pos? | [17:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | -348.29 8.33 -38.07 | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | ok, wait | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | you there VariaVarietatis? | [17:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: yea acc | [17:04] |
| danielpbarron: | i think the finest/extraordinar/superior/standard thing is so I can say "i want the finest whichever thing, whatever quality that turns out to be" | [17:04] |
| danielpbarron: | my basic harvestable loot is always without the extra name | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | could be | [17:05] |
| danielpbarron: | the stuff that appears in the claim is "finest" and the loot that appears in my inventory is just the name of the item with no qualifier | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, tbh the stocks I have are probably not finest | [17:05] |
| danielpbarron: | and always 1 less quality point | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | as this is recent | [17:06] |
| danielpbarron: | extraordinary also acceptable | [17:06] |
| danielpbarron: | but i figured out the bids assuming finest | [17:06] |
| danielpbarron: | what quality is finest for the uncommons and rares? | [17:07] |
| danielpbarron: | finest is currently 288 for basics | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | not sure exactly at what quality it happened, but I get 168 now I think | [17:07] |
| danielpbarron: | ah, i made my bids using 175, so not too bad | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | thing is danielpbarron: I am selling stuff as per my shop page and I'm not going to run around asking people or something | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | might hold an auction if there is interest | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | and that is that | [17:09] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll buy your polished stones | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | ok, 1 min | [17:12] |
| VariaVarietatis: | What is the best way to buy and hold a little bit of btc so I can buy copper from jurov ? | [17:40] |
| jurov: | where are yu located? | [17:41] |
| VariaVarietatis: | US | [17:41] |
| jurov: | and are you over 18? | [17:41] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yes | [17:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov got his job cut out for himself huh | [17:41] |
| diana_coman: | hi mircea_popescu do you have any supplication of berries/moss/leather *drafts*? | [17:42] |
| jurov: | bitcents can be done with paypal | [17:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc that was in the previous auction | [17:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman the one with 100 drafts neh ? | [17:43] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but I was wondering whether you got any from the shredding? | [17:43] |
| diana_coman: | or they are not in the loot for that? | [17:43] |
| jurov: | VariaVarietatis: I can, but won't do more than 0.1BTC for newbs, tho | [17:43] |
| diana_coman: | I got confused on that so I wasn't sure whether they were given only through the auction or not | [17:43] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: thats fine just need a little bit of copper to get started. how much is that in terms of fiat money? | [17:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i dunno how you get 'em. | [17:45] |
| jurov: | 1 copper = 1 satoshi | [17:45] |
| diana_coman: | oh, ok | [17:45] |
| diana_coman: | so then danielpbarron it turns out you are right and so far at least it's only those that birdman has | [17:45] |
| VariaVarietatis: | so buy on bitcents send to you, then you send me the copper sounds good. | [17:45] |
| diana_coman: | I'm willing to pay some premium on that, but not any crazy stuff as he paid at the auction | [17:45] |
| VariaVarietatis: | unless your offering to sell me btc? | [17:45] |
| jurov: | so you want 10bitcents (10 mil coppers) for 2? | [17:46] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yes | [17:46] |
| jurov: | i'll sell you coppers directly | [17:46] |
| jurov: | VariaVarietatis: see private irc message | [17:47] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu I still want to buy those small stacks of recipes for shredding (hat, neckerbocker etc) | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah ok diana_coman ill be in game in ~5 | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | great, will wait then | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, there is something funny going on with the inventory | [18:47] |
| diana_coman: | I get things from storage | [18:47] |
| diana_coman: | but they don't show in my inventory window | [18:47] |
| diana_coman: | they are there when I go to put them back in storage | [18:47] |
| diana_coman: | but otherwise I can't see them anywhere | [18:47] |
| diana_coman: | (my inventory is *not* full) | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know, i had an issue yesterday where i took an item out of a craft table and put it straight into the trade window, and itdisappeared. was there when i relogged, but the thing struck me as maybe novel. | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | leaving here just in case it's useful. | [18:48] |
| diana_coman: | I had that before | [18:49] |
| chetty: | gremlins in the code .... | [18:49] |
| diana_coman: | it tends to do it when taking it from the container and trying to get it into the trade window directly | [18:49] |
| diana_coman: | but never had this thing with the storage | [18:49] |
| diana_coman: | I re-logged in and still the same | [18:49] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [18:49] |
| chetty: | well nothing to do with inventory has been touched in a long time, got to be gremlins to have it suddenly appear now | [18:50] |
| chetty: | but I will look into it, at least things arent actually getting lost | [18:53] |
| diana_coman: | indeed, they seem to be ok so that's fine, just confusing | [18:58] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: craft bot still going nuts even after talking with trainer and restarting | [18:58] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow danielpbarron, asking for what, 30\% on top of value for those rf and the like? | [18:59] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: says its stopped but it hasnt | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | VariaVarietatis you can't sort it out that way | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, that is really weird | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | how is that it hasn't ? | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | the last message in its window is "stopped" | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | but ? | [19:00] |
| VariaVarietatis: | you need to target a container but have open trainer window and craft table. | [19:00] |
| VariaVarietatis: | but it says craft bot has stopped. | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | don't mix the messages... | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | if the bot says it stopped, it stopped | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | you might still get some messages from the server in response to previous actions I suppose | [19:01] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: it hasn't stopped thats my issue. | [19:01] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, you can't just move about and craft at the same time | [19:01] |
| diana_coman: | VariaVarietatis what exactly is happening when you say it hasn't stopped? | [19:01] |
| VariaVarietatis: | the crafting table still looks to be making the item but not using anything out of my bags | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | how does it "look" to be making the itme? | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | item | [19:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | bundle thread bundle thread | [19:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | on loop | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [19:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | and grass tossed in for .1 secs | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | it is someone else's table by any chance? | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [19:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | rofl yea | [19:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | jeez | [19:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | guy is always here crafting | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | you can't use other people's tables... | [19:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can't ? | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | that's why I took you to the public one | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, not while they are working? | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | as they are guarding them | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | I think it's only the public one that you can share, isn't it? | [19:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have no idea | [19:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | mebbe | [19:04] |
| diana_coman: | easy to test | [19:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, im on the tail end of a ~85k grass craft. | [19:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | back to making q > 200 normals! | [19:05] |
| diana_coman: | congrats | [19:05] |
| diana_coman: | and hope you'll make those ppb next :p | [19:05] |
| diana_coman: | I am now looking sadly at my almost vanished stash of bits of nothing! | [19:05] |
| diana_coman: | of all things | [19:05] |
| diana_coman: | this is crazy | [19:05] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [19:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | remembers an auction he held | [19:06] |
| diana_coman: | I remember I bought a lot of them | [19:07] |
| diana_coman: | and that's why it's crazy | [19:07] |
| diana_coman: | that I used them all, lol | [19:07] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, if one calculates the actual cost of a bit of nothing (based on the shredding thing), not sure about that idea that tiny claims are great etc | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | also not very sure where spirover got his base value for it given how it's actually made :))) | [19:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | i got a slag recipe | [19:11] |
| diana_coman: | wd | [19:11] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: can't seem to get the sed command working on your blog tried "sed /\n/\nDelay 0.2\n/ temp >test.txt" it makes the test.txt but it has nothing in it temp still does but nothing is changed any idea what im doing wrong? | [19:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | delay must be an integer. | [19:39] |
| VariaVarietatis: | What does that mean, isnt it already an integer 0.2? | [19:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | 0.2 is not an integer. | [19:44] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: tried 1 a whole number but still isnt working what am I missing? | [19:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | no idea. | [19:46] |
| VariaVarietatis: | tried this "sed /\n/\nDelay 1\n/ temp > test.txt" maybe i'm misunderstanding integer? | [19:47] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> also not very sure where spirover got his base value for it given how it's actually made << you could put 1 of each recipe. 99 is just for the overcraft, no? you always get 101 bits no matter what | [20:11] |
| danielpbarron: | VariaVarietatis, don't bother with sed, just nano it | [20:11] |
| danielpbarron: | that way you can see it and fix stuff that the recorder didn't get right | [20:12] |
| danielpbarron: | particularly the mouse stuff | [20:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron iirc you get 1 | [20:13] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: interested in why sed ins't working now mircea_popescu hinted it might be an integer issue but cant find anything in the docs that works | [20:14] |
| danielpbarron: | 1 bit? no way | [20:16] |
| danielpbarron: | VariaVarietatis, it doesn't matter, you don't want to add 1 second between every line anyway | [20:16] |
| danielpbarron: | it needs a fine touch | [20:16] |
| danielpbarron: | add delays in the right spots | [20:17] |
| danielpbarron: | pretty much only need the delay on actions that cause the server to have to adjust info | [20:17] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah ok im working on trying to make a crafting macro | [20:17] |
| danielpbarron: | have the macro place the ingredients in the bottom right corner of the crafting table | [20:18] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: ok gotta rerecord it. | [20:19] |
| danielpbarron: | you should first record a training macro | [20:20] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: how is that done? | [20:20] |
| VariaVarietatis: | xmacrorec2 > temp is what I have been using | [20:21] |
| danielpbarron: | and it should open the crafting table, take the blueprints out of your mind and place them in the top left corner of the crafting table, and then place the first two rows of your inventory into the remaining crafting squares going from left to right top to bottom, starting with your second inventory space which has your first ingredient | [20:21] |
| danielpbarron: | that is so you can train even when overloaded | [20:22] |
| danielpbarron: | this is necessary even at a low rank because you might get a big score of loot | [20:22] |
| danielpbarron: | the reason for that particular order of items is that when you click to move it all back to your inventory, the blueprints will always return to the first inventory space, and the ingredients will always follow | [20:23] |
| danielpbarron: | then the macro can always click that spot to move the blueprints back to your mind | [20:23] |
| danielpbarron: | once your have that training macro recorded, you can add it to the start of all your other crafting macros | [20:24] |
| danielpbarron: | like this: $ cat train.txt temp > name_of_item.txt | [20:24] |
| danielpbarron: | i wonder if i could publish my library of macros and have it work on other systems | [20:25] |
| danielpbarron: | you'd have to arrange your windows the same way i do | [20:25] |
| danielpbarron: | although that's probably silly as crafting already has a built in command if you have the latest version of the client | [20:25] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: command wasnt working. something with server update. | [20:26] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: can i place stacks of 3 in each slot? then it will make all the slots? | [20:28] |
| danielpbarron: | what command? | [20:28] |
| VariaVarietatis: | on the crafting table | [20:28] |
| danielpbarron: | wait do you even have tinkering yet? | [20:28] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yea foxy gave it to me | [20:28] |
| danielpbarron: | ah | [20:28] |
| danielpbarron: | you shouldn't even worry about automating it yet | [20:29] |
| danielpbarron: | until your rank 50+ or something | [20:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah ok | [20:29] |
| danielpbarron: | you are more usefull out gathering though | [20:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | going to automate that | [20:30] |
| danielpbarron: | it's easy to make a script that will /explore and then mine every claim like it is a tiny | [20:30] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok | [20:31] |
| danielpbarron: | you have to take the first enumeration and put it in your mind and not mine the claim | [20:31] |
| danielpbarron: | come back to it at the end | [20:31] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok let me give it a shot | [20:32] |
| danielpbarron: | although i just realized you probably don't find a claim every time | [20:32] |
| danielpbarron: | so you should make a macro that just explores, places the key on the stick and moves on | [20:32] |
| danielpbarron: | and by "on the stick" i mean literally outside | [20:33] |
| danielpbarron: | that way it always drops the key | [20:33] |
| danielpbarron: | or um, maybe you are saving keys to make bits | [20:34] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yea i need bits still | [20:34] |
| danielpbarron: | oh wait, didn't jurov say he released some mining code? | [20:37] |
| danielpbarron: | you should totally try that | [20:37] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah ok where is it at? do i need to recompine the game to get it working? | [20:38] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah | [20:38] |
| danielpbarron: | there is a.. | [20:38] |
| danielpbarron: | gasps | [20:38] |
| danielpbarron: | github | [20:38] |
| VariaVarietatis: | oh I already got the version off github? | [20:38] |
| danielpbarron: | when? | [20:39] |
| VariaVarietatis: | yesterday | [20:39] |
| danielpbarron: | not sure, i think he said it today | [20:39] |
| danielpbarron: | lol | [20:39] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: doing git pull says already up-to-date? | [20:41] |
| VariaVarietatis: | look at it later gonna go eat before everything closes | [20:47] |
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