| diana_coman: | danielpbarron diana_coman> also not very sure where spirover got his base value for it given how it's actually made << you could put 1 of each recipe. 99 is just for the overcraft, no? you always get 101 bits no matter what <- that's the thing, now I do get *one* | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | I also remember it used to result in 101 | [02:35] |
| diana_coman: | and anyway even without considering the cost of decay, it's out of 16 bps (17 with the one in the mind...) at a minimum so that makes it what, each recipe should cost maximum 10 coppers so that you don't really end up with the most expensive bit of nothing ever? | [02:36] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu danielpbarron iirc you get 1 <- that's what I got yesterday, but once again previous to that I remember I used to get 101 or something like that really, not sure why/what changed | [02:37] |
| danielpbarron: | http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt | [03:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw just put your ppb in production | [03:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | after struggling to contain my recipe wealth for half an hour | [03:09] |
| chetty: | morning | [03:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | heya chetty | [03:11] |
| diana_coman: | oh, that's great mircea_popescu | [03:36] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron how's the altar going? | [03:37] |
| diana_coman: | morning chetty | [03:38] |
| thestringpuller: | mornin' chetty. yo gets up earlier and earlier @_@ - you must tell me your secret | [03:38] |
| chetty: | why waste life sleeping, thestringpuller ? | [03:40] |
| diana_coman: | wow danielpbarron you're asking for +40\% on those? | [03:42] |
| diana_coman: | gl | [03:42] |
| thestringpuller: | how did I know you were going to say that? however as a recovering insomniac, i would say that is technicall enablement from what they tell me at insomniacs anonymous. :P | [03:42] |
| diana_coman: | tbh after 1.5 years of horrible sleep deprivation, I also count sleep as payment for the day, sanity of mind and productivity if nothing else | [03:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman 1k per eps seems pretty generous indeed | [03:44] |
| diana_coman: | I meant what he is asking for the things he made | [03:44] |
| diana_coman: | like slag | [03:44] |
| diana_coman: | for the eps it depends on the quality really | [03:45] |
| diana_coman: | saying it is quite generous like that without considering the quality doesn't make much sense | [03:45] |
| diana_coman: | sure, if the eps are quality 100 it is generous, yeah | [03:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | your quality makes it so that his offer is like 50\% opver merchant. | [03:47] |
| diana_coman: | he says finest, so he wants highest quality | [03:48] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, that particular thing is quite generous for what quality we currently get, yes | [03:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | well judging by what he wants for slag, i guess not bidding on my slag auction was a bad move. | [03:49] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, lol, why? | [03:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | but then again this is often the case, i recall a large set of lbn also got no bids when i auctioned it | [03:50] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing I make better slag than that myself so no point buying it | [03:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | better than 200 ? | [03:50] |
| diana_coman: | uhm? | [03:50] |
| diana_coman: | no, his quality is 156 | [03:50] |
| diana_coman: | what 200? | [03:50] |
| diana_coman: | I have about 900 slag at q200 | [03:50] |
| diana_coman: | ... | [03:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | o god, he's buying tlc ? | [03:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | sighs. | [03:52] |
| diana_coman: | I guess I'll have to put up my offer of slag at 156 quality then too, lol | [03:53] |
| diana_coman: | since even 35\% is quite a good deal :))) | [03:53] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, I got a load of mushrooms | [03:53] |
| diana_coman: | so the oil thing looks all right so far really | [03:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool. | [03:54] |
| diana_coman: | on a run of about 50 tools it started looking net positive :))) | [03:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean gross positive ? | [03:54] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, pretty much in any way you care to look at it, really | [03:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol k | [03:54] |
| diana_coman: | the base value for wm is 778 | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah iirc 780something | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | and it got to well below that | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | my costs are well below that | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | tools + thread + bits / number of shrooms | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah. cool! | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | thinks he'll do some mining one of these days. | [03:56] |
| diana_coman: | so I'll make oil and you make shaped slag and I make tools and wear them down and then you make toolkits? | [03:56] |
| diana_coman: | right? | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | that grass run made my sortage huge., | [03:56] |
| diana_coman: | quite curious how it turns out for you really | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah that was the plan. | [03:56] |
| diana_coman: | sounds good to me | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | well it's plain obvious i won't be getting enough sb unless i also mine some. just too damn many needed | [03:57] |
| diana_coman: | it kind of turned a corner for me recently, but can't tell why | [03:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | who did ? | [03:57] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I think I have another 1k or something | [03:57] |
| diana_coman: | mining as an activity, it kind of turned a corner and got positive | [03:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [03:57] |
| diana_coman: | I got varia to mine some sb and it was quite decent | [03:58] |
| diana_coman: | but yeah, it's still more needed | [03:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | is it possible you're keeping better notes ? ie, more precise ? | [03:58] |
| diana_coman: | and they are heavy so the bot gets overweight pretty fast | [03:58] |
| diana_coman: | I do (logs) I just need to get to also go through them and publish the result | [03:58] |
| diana_coman: | so I have another 2 k branches, want them? | [03:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite lemme log in | [03:59] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron I have currently 300 eps at 168q, let me know if you want them towards that 1k or whether you are buying just 1k set | [04:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | getting ./euclient: error while loading shared libraries: libcrystalspace-2.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when try to open the game now. | [05:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | it was working before last rebooted | [05:05] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, don't remember seeing that, but have you checked that the cs library is still in place? | [05:10] |
| diana_coman: | chetty or jurov might have a better idea on that ^ | [05:11] |
| VariaVarietatis: | How can I check? | [05:12] |
| diana_coman: | oh, do you have the CRYSTAL variable set? | [05:13] |
| diana_coman: | that might cause it I guess | [05:13] |
| diana_coman: | export CRYSTAL=/home/ossa/development/cs | [05:13] |
| diana_coman: | well, whatever path you have, of course | [05:14] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: yea I thought that at first also, didnt work. | [05:14] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: maybe reinstall it? | [05:14] |
| diana_coman: | and the ld_library_path? | [05:14] |
| diana_coman: | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/ossa/development/cal3d/src/cal3d/.libs/:/home/ossa/development/cs/:" | [05:14] |
| diana_coman: | as it seems to be about the library really | [05:14] |
| VariaVarietatis: | that worked. | [05:15] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [05:15] |
| VariaVarietatis: | i'm in show me what you have in mind. | [05:15] |
| diana_coman: | you can make a pretty penny + exp and loot if you get high q harvestables such as branches from me, make them low q (but with high overcraft) ppb | [05:16] |
| diana_coman: | and then sell the ppb to mircea | [05:16] |
| diana_coman: | he will pay you well for it due to how he calculates prices | [05:16] |
| diana_coman: | (based on the difference between his output and yours and that difference is really big) | [05:17] |
| diana_coman: | if you want to see the formula exactly, check the logs as it was here some days ago | [05:17] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok let me look at it all this just got up. | [05:17] |
| VariaVarietatis: | give me a few mins to find it | [05:18] |
| diana_coman: | sure | [05:18] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok diana_coman back what am I looking for in the logs and whats ppb, isnt overcraft just using most items? | [05:24] |
| VariaVarietatis: | like if it takes 1-7 you use 7 like the thread. | [05:24] |
| diana_coman: | overcraft = putting in more value than you get out | [05:24] |
| diana_coman: | that is one way to overcraft, but not all blueprints allow that kind of overcraft | [05:24] |
| diana_coman: | take the threads you made yesterday | [05:24] |
| diana_coman: | 1 thread always takes 3 clumps of grass, right? | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | you can't just put 10 in there | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | or 100 | [05:25] |
| VariaVarietatis: | what happens if you put 100 in? | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | but you can still overcraft, by using 3 clumps of grass of *higher quality* | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | the craft will fail | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | it won't combine, you can't make thread like that | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | try it, no harm in that | [05:26] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, so as long as you put 3 clumps of grass in, you will always get 1 thread out at the quality dictated by your tinkering skill | [05:26] |
| diana_coman: | but then if you put in 3 grass at quality 12, that's clearly less value than 3 grass at quality 100, isn't it? | [05:26] |
| diana_coman: | so that additional value you put in is the overcraft roughly speaking | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | (assuming that what you put in is over the total of what you get out, as otherwise you can basically undercraft too) | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | overall the point for you now is this: you'll get good money if you sell your output to mp because there is a big difference between his output and yours and he calculates what he gives you based on that | [05:28] |
| diana_coman: | you can either do it with your own branches but then you don't get new blueprints probably (no overcraft) | [05:29] |
| diana_coman: | or you can do it with higher quality branches to get good loot too (blueprints of various sorts) | [05:29] |
| VariaVarietatis: | im still not sure what he is paying for. how is my output so different just a lower tinker skill? | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | what quality are the threads you got? | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | the ones you made yesterday | [05:30] |
| VariaVarietatis: | 98 | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | well, he makes stuff at quality 200 | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | and btw that is quite high quality there, I'm rather surprised | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | are you sure they didn't mix with some threads from me maybe? | [05:32] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: maybe with the stuff you gave me. | [05:32] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: let me make a fresh one to see. | [05:32] |
| diana_coman: | that would explain it | [05:32] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: yea getting quality 32 now. | [05:33] |
| diana_coman: | aha, that makes more sense | [05:33] |
| diana_coman: | better not mix them though as that will make all of them lower quality and it doesn't really serve you well for mining | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | so quite a long way to go from 32 to 200 (keep in mind it doesn't increase linearly either ) | [05:34] |
| VariaVarietatis: | how can mixing be avoided? | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | mainly if you put what you have in storage | [05:35] |
| diana_coman: | go to the npcs | [05:35] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: yea got 2 stacks in storage now. | [05:37] |
| diana_coman: | that's it | [05:37] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok what am I looking for in the logs now? | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | bah, can't find that formula for the life of me right now, but I can tell you that I basically get 20\% on top of base value and my difference is more like 40 while yours is 170 | [05:38] |
| VariaVarietatis: | sounds like a lot of profit to be made. | [05:39] |
| diana_coman: | there: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-15.log.html | [05:39] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2015-08-15 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [05:39] |
| diana_coman: | and google sucks big time for not finding it when I searched on "parametrized functions" specifically on that site | [05:40] |
| diana_coman: | wtf | [05:40] |
| diana_coman: | more precisely this line: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-15.log.html#t18:06:07 | [05:40] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2015-08-15 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [05:40] |
| chetty: | <VariaVarietatis> getting ./euclient: error while loading shared libraries: libcrystalspace-2.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when try to open the game now.// anytime you open a new terminal or have rebooted you need to set the path and environment var, or put it in you user file | [05:44] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: still working on understanding whats said. chetty where is my user file? | [05:45] |
| chetty: | what os are you running on? | [05:45] |
| VariaVarietatis: | gentoo | [05:45] |
| chetty: | hmm not sure as I dont use gentoo but should be some hidden (starts with .) in your home dir thats sets up bash commands and environment | [05:47] |
| VariaVarietatis: | chetty: bashrc? | [05:48] |
| VariaVarietatis: | can just toss 2 export commands in that? | [05:48] |
| chetty: | like I said I dont use gentoo but that sounds likely for the spot | [05:49] |
| jurov: | VariaVarietatis: create eulora.sh with everythign in it and run that | [06:02] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok diana_coman: so you want to give/sell me branches to craft? and then we sell the output to mp get a profit based on mpfactor? | [06:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | or it does't matter what we craft? | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | it does, lol | [06:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok just checking. | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | you can certainly do it with anything you want | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | but right now the ppb are in demand, hence it matters | [06:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ppb? | [06:04] |
| diana_coman: | http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/ppb.html | [06:04] |
| diana_coman: | will get to the village in 1 min | [06:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | nice | [06:05] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: how do I get your patch working for /explore also? | [06:05] |
| VariaVarietatis: | github pull says got newest? | [06:05] |
| jurov: | it's in automine branch, not in master (cuz very hacky and expermental) | [06:08] |
| jurov: | https://github.com/jurov/Eulora-client/commits/automine | [06:08] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Commits · jurov/Eulora-client · GitHub (at github.com) | [06:08] |
| chetty: | danielpbarron, your bot seems to be having a little trouble | [06:12] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: how do I swtich to this version in git? | [06:15] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: can I just clone --branch automine? | [06:15] |
| jurov: | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9537392/git-fetch-remote-branch | [06:15] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Git fetch remote branch - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) | [06:15] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: still can't get it tried http://dpaste.com/3KATBMX | [06:27] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 3KATBMX (at dpaste.com) | [06:27] |
| VariaVarietatis: | still not showing up in git branch -r | [06:28] |
| VariaVarietatis: | oh its already updated guess didnt need to download anything? | [06:30] |
| jurov: | check "git remote -v" | [06:30] |
| jurov: | looks like you don't use my repository | [06:31] |
| jurov: | but chetty's | [06:31] |
| VariaVarietatis: | http://dpaste.com/2R29TZM | [06:31] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 2R29TZM (at dpaste.com) | [06:31] |
| jurov: | yes. sorry, i have loads of other stuff right now, not walking you through adding another remote repository into git | [06:32] |
| jurov: | but it's like git 101, there are many good tutorials and it will be useful to you elsewhere, too | [06:33] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok thanks for pointing me in the right direction | [06:34] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: ok back online. | [06:45] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: got it compiled point me to how to use it please? | [06:47] |
| jurov: | just make sure you have both biths and thread in inventory | [06:47] |
| jurov: | and where you did /explore, now you do /mine | [06:47] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: got everything workign but need more nothing should just farm keys? | [07:20] |
| diana_coman: | yes, they will turn into bits of nothing | [07:20] |
| diana_coman: | so farm them | [07:20] |
| diana_coman: | alternatively I think spirover (the npc merchant) might have those I sold him some time ago | [07:21] |
| diana_coman: | though he charges some hefty premium on them | [07:21] |
| diana_coman: | I'll be back in game in about 1hr | [07:21] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: its telling me "you were unsuccessful since you moved something" do items have to be in some order? | [07:42] |
| VariaVarietatis: | not all the time. | [07:43] |
| jurov: | yes occassionally it does that | [07:43] |
| jurov: | just move around and retry | [07:44] |
| jurov: | you're welcome to debug it :) or wait till foxy releases ultra spiffy mining bot with movement,training, storage menegement and whatnot | [07:46] |
| VariaVarietatis: | jurov: no skills for that yet, this is already large upgrade over a bunch of clicks | [07:47] |
| chetty: | it server complains if your bot did something like click too fast and an item is not where it was when you started a craft. | [07:57] |
| chetty: | it thinks you might be trying to cheat :P | [07:58] |
| chetty: | danielpbarron, your craft bot is still stuck ... | [07:59] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: got a good amount of stuff when you get back in game | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | I was just getting back in | [08:33] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: im stuck and heina doesn't over storage? thougth she had it 10 mins ago but icon is missing for me now. | [09:08] |
| VariaVarietatis: | I don't even see train anymore | [09:08] |
| diana_coman: | you are overweight VariaVarietatis, that's all | [09:09] |
| danielpbarron: | chetty> danielpbarron, your bot seems to be having a little trouble << I didn't start with enough blueprints and it ran out | [09:32] |
| diana_coman: | if I get it right, the sacrifice line is currently quite stuck, isn't it? | [09:57] |
| VariaVarietatis: | oh no server went down crafting something | [10:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ah still worked | [10:12] |
| lobbes: | '@calc' now available to use in this channel. Useful for formulas, etc | [10:26] |
| lobbes: | @calc ((100 + (203-100)/2)/100)/7.6125 | [10:26] |
| lobbesbot: | lobbes: 0.199014778325 | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | that's cool lobbes | [10:26] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mpfactor | [10:26] |
| danielpbarron: | it's stuck on birdman ya | [10:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i think he thinks that other people have those drafts | [10:30] |
| chetty: | is birdman the only one with the needed things? | [10:40] |
| chetty: | in chan calc thats very cool tyvm lobbes | [10:41] |
| danielpbarron: | apparently | [10:42] |
| chetty: | can you tell me exactly a name? I wanna look into it | [10:43] |
| danielpbarron: | any of the basic supplication drafts | [10:44] |
| danielpbarron: | he will probably show up once he realizes | [10:44] |
| chetty: | well I just confirmed that they do show up as crafting loot, so it is possible to get them, cant say crafting what tho | [10:48] |
| danielpbarron: | they show up as loot for each other | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | updated shop: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/foxystore.html | [11:15] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Foxy's Useful Items (at www.dianacoman.com) | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | prices are calculated between 20\% and 30\% on top of base value for most items (except some really hard to get ones where I had to calculate based on costs) | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | in principle there might something else that gives them as loot too, danielpbarron, you can't really know | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | you'd need to try all the stuff for a lot of time and then only be able to say | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | let me know if you want anything from there as I think you were looking for some of that stuff | [11:18] |
| thestringpuller: | jj | [11:19] |
| thestringpuller: | !. | [11:19] |
| thestringpuller: | Oops sorry. Laggy shell :( | [11:19] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu will you make me a batch of congressional pulp please? | [11:21] |
| diana_coman: | it takes rickety reeds and disgusting goop so don't think that's a problem re ingredients, but let me know if you need them | [11:22] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: I have a stack of 10 ppb to sell you. | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | sweet. ill be in game in a little bit. | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | also : i'm selling a package consisting of materials to make 588 LTF, at about 200q. i want 25\% over base price (comes to ~6mn) and the resulting lft sold back to me, at a price as per the formula ( http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-15.log.html#t18:06:07 ). | [12:01] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2015-08-15 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [12:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is a great deal for a noob wanting to pump up his crafting, so jurov lemme know if you want it | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | or anyone else. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | (if you don't have ltf recipes i'll throw in a free dozen. you won't need more, as this rains recipes) | [12:03] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: I will take it. but can you help me understand the mpfactor better? | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | the who ? | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | VariaVarietatis do you have 6mn in cash ? | [12:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-15.log.html#t18:19:10 | [12:04] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2015-08-15 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [12:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: got 9.3m right now | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | alrighty. the formula works as follows : if you make the ltf at q 10, the formula will be : (588 * (10 + (205-10)/2)/100) * 4070 | [12:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you get 2572647 | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | (meanwhile the merchant pays 4070 * 588 * 10/100 = 239316 | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you get basically 1000\% of the merchant value of yiour product. | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you make ltf at 50, the formula becomes : (588 * (50 + (205-50)/2)/100) * 4070 | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you get 3051279 | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | (meanwhile the merchant pays 4070 * 588 * 50/100 = 1196580 | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you get 300\%. | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | and so on. | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | eventually as your quality gets high enough this is no longer a good deal. | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | at which point you're your own master crafter and can branch out on your own. | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | make sense ? | [12:08] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: yea I think so. gonna need to find out when its not +EV to sell anymore on my own. | [12:08] |
| VariaVarietatis: | im in game. | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think about 160s qualities atm. brt. | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah listen VariaVarietatis the goop is still cooking. it will need a further ~6000 seconds before it's done, so. we can do this deal in 2 hours. | [12:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: ok gonna work on my macro until then | [12:10] |
| VariaVarietatis: | do you want ppb now? | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | do that then too | [12:11] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok | [12:12] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, turns out my "turned a corner" mining experience was caused by a tiny tiny blip of good luck or something. Calculated over 2 huge runs, the results point to me finding something else entirely to do. | [12:52] |
| lobbesbot: | News from dianacoman: Pulling mushrooms by their wooly threads and other disastrous adventures <http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/09/03/pulling-mushrooms-by-their-wooly-threads-and-other-disastrous-adventures/> | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | and lobbesbot got that just in time, data is there ^ | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | you were asking for hard data mircea_popescu - it's so hard it just killed my mining ^ | [12:53] |
| VariaVarietatis: | danielpbarron: has a huge stack of keys in town | [12:53] |
| VariaVarietatis: | two players tall | [12:53] |
| chetty: | is happy to hear some of the rest of us may get a shot at mining | [13:00] |
| diana_coman: | awww chetty, esp for building claims I'd clearly need someone with lower skill to get at least more items | [13:04] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: I can help you with that later after get my macro working better | [13:05] |
| VariaVarietatis: | diana_coman: around any idea why my macro when it loops around is spamming w? put in some enters but still seems to be doing it. | [13:36] |
| VariaVarietatis: | http://dpaste.com/281N9CJ | [13:37] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 281N9CJ (at dpaste.com) | [13:37] |
| VariaVarietatis: | nvm got it all working now gonna get some more ppb parts | [13:41] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: ready? | [14:08] |
| VariaVarietatis: | msg in game when ready gonna macro up some more ppb parts. | [14:20] |
| diana_coman: | VariaVarietatis do you want a pack to make braided threads for me? | [15:05] |
| VariaVarietatis: | omw | [15:08] |
| jurov: | anything left for me to craft? gotta unwind a bit | [15:15] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, I can give you some oil and slag I think | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | to make some shaped slag? | [15:16] |
| jurov: | ok | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | let me see what I have | [15:16] |
| jurov: | which shape? | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | pointy I guess | [15:18] |
| diana_coman: | basically anything but flat, lol | [15:18] |
| diana_coman: | I have a pack for 20 pieces | [15:19] |
| diana_coman: | I'll do more packs in a while | [15:19] |
| diana_coman: | I have 1 Foxy's Scribblings on Tinkering for sale starting from 32k (30\% on top of base value) - it should be even faster ranking up in tinkering for those with tinkering below 100, so who wants it, maybe jurov, gernika, VariaVarietatis or anyone else? | [15:47] |
| jurov: | it's like improved chix scribblings? | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, that should be for over 100 I think | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | or do you mean the original item that gave the skill in the first place? | [15:48] |
| jurov: | no i meant it works like these? | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | as far as I know, but I couldn't actually test it for obvious reasons (skill above 100) | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | you are meant to use it, yes | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | and it should increase your tinkering skill if you have rank < 100 | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | but I don't really truly know whether it increases it by 1 level guaranteed or by a certain number of points or how exactly | [15:50] |
| jurov: | i'll try it, need 36k points to level up | [15:56] |
| jurov: | but you have to add it to my credit | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | sure | [15:56] |
| jurov: | yes it added one lvl | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | cool | [15:58] |
| jurov: | 61->62 | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | please give me the coins before you train though | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | so that it splits 1 mil | [15:58] |
| jurov: | lol now i have 100k but not 2k | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | still better | [16:00] |
| jurov: | will sell stuf f and return | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | so what do you think of that? | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | compared to ranking up by crafting or whatever? | [16:03] |
| jurov: | notverymuch.jpg | [16:04] |
| jurov: | i can level up by 5-10 shaped slags instead. maybe as i approach 100 will be more usable | [16:05] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, 10 shaped slags might actually be more than that, no? | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | no, possibly no | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | 10 slag would be around 12k, maybe 15k max I guess | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | oh, but you need actually 50 slag for 10 shaped, right? | [16:09] |
| diana_coman: | so scratch that, it is actually cheaper with the book | [16:09] |
| diana_coman: | it certainly makes more sense on higher levels, but it seems that it is considerably cheaper anyway | [16:09] |
| diana_coman: | do you know exactly how many points it gave you, jurov? | [16:11] |
| diana_coman: | I'm quite curious whether that depends on the quality of the book | [16:11] |
| jurov: | as i said i had over 36k points to next level | [16:11] |
| jurov: | iirc it levelled up with 0 pts | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but it might have given you more than that, I think it does carry some of them on, doesn't it? | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | ok, so at least 36k is all we know | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [16:12] |
| jurov: | just looked, yes practice:0 | [16:12] |
| gernika: | diana_coman thanks for pinging me - will pass. Gonna let my eyes heal a few more weeks before logging in again. | [16:13] |
| jurov: | is loaning an account prohibited? | [16:13] |
| chetty: | well players should be in the wot ... | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | alrighty, lert's see | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | you there VariaVarietatis ? | [16:35] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: actually it looks i get 12k points per your slag | [16:39] |
| diana_coman: | so 12k points per 1 shaped slag you mean? | [16:39] |
| jurov: | yep | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | that'd be 3 shaped slags to make so 15 slag | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | it seems to be cheaper then, rather weird | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | as you also get loot I suppose | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | uhm | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | well, not as fast , but otherwise, mhm | [16:41] |
| chetty: | prolly better closer to 100 | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu would you make me some beetle brews if I provide the beetles? | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | and some congressional pulp? | [16:42] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: lol it insists yo use your table since you dropped it | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think i got some pulp anyway. | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | that's weird, but tbh after the server revamp the old version of the bot is quite weird indeed since it was kind of tortured to fit the initial mess of the server | [16:43] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: yea im ready | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | I'll buy any pulp above 170q | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman cool ima make some. VariaVarietatis incidentally, you DO have tinkering skill right ? | [16:46] |
| VariaVarietatis: | mircea_popescu: yea, i got tinkering skill macroing up some items right now, however no table of my own so can't train at the same time | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima give you one. ok, going in game | [16:47] |
| VariaVarietatis: | ok | [16:47] |
| VariaVarietatis: | already got macro ready for training + crafting | [16:47] |
| diana_coman: | VariaVarietatis are you there? | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | I got stick recipes mircea_popescu so I'll do a run as soon as I get again a decent stash of polished stones too, sigh | [17:49] |
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