| diana_coman: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-24-Dec-2019#1013900 - nice find, works indeed! | [04:59] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-24 18:59:12 whaack: I discovered today you can go to Appearance->Widgets and then click the "edit" button on Recent Posts under Current Widgets and change the title to, for example, "Recent Articles" | [04:59] |
| diana_coman: | and Merry Christmas everyone! | [04:59] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: EOD sounds good, I'll read the article later today too. | [05:00] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thefleet-a-systematic-exploration-of-the-irc-space/#comment-136 - it's all in there really but in short, automated processing & filtering first. | [06:04] |
| DKordic: | whaack: Check out https://tools.suckless.org/ii/ . I don't use it, C is a stupid joke. I found it interesting. | [07:09] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: suckless aka cat-v is not unknown around here; see http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-search?q=suckless&chan=trilema and http://trilema.com/2016/cat-vorg-adnotated/ | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: why won't you register a key with deedbot anyway? | [10:46] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: ack re not needing the interface. i'd much rather spend my time learning awk and/or R then making yet another webpage. | [11:21] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: My interaction with the pcgamingcr rep unfortunately makes me think that there is a possibility you were right about them scamming me and selling me a used part. The dishonesty began with the SD card reader. Not only did they not tell me that it was missing before I went to go pick up the package, but they never told me to begin with that it was backordered. I gather once they knew I would be waiting for the RAM they f | [11:27] |
| whaack: | igured they could pretend everything else was in stock. The other glaring missing item that I did not realize is the FUCKING MOUSE AND KEYBOARD. I messaged them about that and they were like 'oh yeah same problem - out of stock.' But I don't believe them because when I was ordering I said something like any cheap mouse/keyboard will do, so I don't see why they would pick one that would need to be ordered. I think they just forgot a | [11:27] |
| whaack: | nd are lying. | [11:27] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: on top of all this, the rep dodges any question that makes him culpable, refuses to answer my calls, and ignores my requests to set a time to talk | [11:28] |
| whaack: | DKordic: If I can't find another way to get the channel data from the /list command, then this might come in handy. Other than that I don't see how it'd be useful for TheFleet. I would rather my data in an index'd postgres db than structured as a unix file tree. Thanks for the link | [12:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | whaack: This looks like something where hanbot might have some useful insights into how you can effectively pursue some sort of remedy | [12:58] |
| DKordic: | diana_coman: I have no idea what is a DeedBot :) . | [13:21] |
| DKordic: | Cryptography is SciFi for me. | [13:21] |
| whaack: | DKordic: deedbot is a tool of The Most Serene Republic that among other functions stores a set of gpg keys and provides a graph of ratings that owners of the keys have given to other keys. http://wot.deedbot.org/ | [13:34] |
| whaack: | DKordic: Without a registered gpg key, you have no identity. Whose to say you are the same DKordic that was here a couple of weeks ago? | [13:36] |
| DKordic: | Good point. ATM DeedBot doesn't seem interesting to me at all. | [13:45] |
| DKordic: | Not in the foreseeable future. | [13:46] |
| DKordic: | Re: cat-v.org: Yes, they are C programmers. | [13:49] |
| whaack: | hanbot: ^ Here is the quick summary of what BingoBoingo believes you may be able to give insight into. I spoke with a rep from pcgamingcr through Whatsapp for a week or so to establish a list of computer parts + accessories to order. When I picked up the package there were problems. First, they took the parts I ordered out of their boxes and assembled 90\% of a computer. As diana_coman mentioned I have no way to know if the parts th | [13:51] |
| whaack: | ey sold me are new. Second, there were items I ordered that were missing: an sd card reader, a mouse, and a keyboard. What I would like to do is (1) convince them to pay the extra to deliver to my door for the remaining parts OR get a speedy refund. (2) probe to see if the parts they sold me were new or used. (2) is albeit a bit silly because afaik all I can do is ask and use poker skills to see if they are lying. So far I have ask | [13:51] |
| whaack: | ed for an explanation as to why they did not inform me of the missing parts before i picked up the computer. They dodge every phrasing of the question, responding, "the parts are not there because they have not yet arrived from our manufacturer." | [13:51] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: re data, if the bot spits it out directly to db, you might even get away with cleaning in sql directly or something; you'll still find R useful afterwards for processing. | [14:42] |
| diana_coman: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-25-Dec-2019#1013918 - so why didn't you simply ask, you know? don't you *want* to find stuff out? | [14:43] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-25 13:21:19 DKordic: diana_coman: I have no idea what is a DeedBot :) . | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: there's the guide written for Eulora - you may still find useful the key generation + registration part. But seriously, you are way better off asking for stuff to do than silently hanging around. What is *not* sci-fi to you? | [14:46] |
| diana_coman: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-25-Dec-2019#1013922 - this is militant ignorance speaking; the fact that it's not "interesting to you" means simply that you are totally clueless atm; it is *important* and therefore you should *get interested*, not derp about that oh noez, not interesting to me atm, as if you were some measure of interestingness in this world. | [14:48] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-25 13:45:23 DKordic: Good point. ATM DeedBot doesn't seem interesting to me at all. | [14:48] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: what a mess; apparently in cr you either go to the shop or otherwise have a ton of trouble; what do they say about the missing parts, are you meant to wait indefinitely or what? | [14:50] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: they did not give a status update on the missing parts, they only said they would refund me if they can't get them. as mentioned before I suspect they have the keyboard+mouse and are lying about them being backordered, and i bet they are having trouble finding the SD card reader altogether | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: it does sound very hard to believe they don't have *any* mouse and keyboard, for sure. | [14:55] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: right, i asked them for any cheap mouse+keyboard, why would they pick something they don't have? and they didn't mention it when they admitted to not having the memory card reader. I think they simply forgot, and they have demonstrated by avoiding questions they will not admit their own fault | [14:56] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: did you ask them now to ship whatever kbd and mouse? their "backorder" or whatevers is not your problem after all. | [14:58] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: no, i can do that now | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | iirc hanbot said she always picked the stuff up so possibly that's really ~the only way to avoid such mess in cr. | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: it's up to you really ie what do you want exactly as resolution to this mess? | [15:00] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: The missing keyboard/mouse/memory card/ + preassembled computer bs, while quite annoying, is not so big a deal. I'll ask for a refund and have my mother whose visiting soon bring what I'm missing. I have a keyboard I should be able to use for now, and can otherwise go to Santa Cruz to get a keyboard/mouse. | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | so then get the refund and be done with them; hurray for mothers everywhere otherwise :P | [15:05] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: the only issue I care about, is whether or not the parts I bought are used or new. The question then is if I knew they were used, which I should assume is the case, do I want to argue for a full refund? My answer is no, the hassle will be way too much and I will still learn from building my own machine. Also, I'd much rather use a machine I put together with AMD over intel running a linux distro than a mac. | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: kind of hard to actually know now; you can still ask them to ship to you the manuals because they should have them if new. | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | and I guess you can press with a "if not manuals then it's 2nd hand so you take it back and refund me" or similar. | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | did you check in the end that all parts are at least precisely what you ordered? | [15:09] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: no, I'll do that today after I'm done with my article when I dissemble the machine | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | ok. | [15:10] |
| DKordic: | diana_coman: Exactly, I am not a measure at all. | [15:22] |
| asciilifeform: | whaack, diana_coman : does cr have fascist customs, like e.g. BingoBoingostan ? cuz if not, i can eat coin & have any iron you like sent there | [15:36] |
| asciilifeform: | sent a crate of FG, back when mp was there, an' it arrived w/ 0 wank. tho admittedly this could have been blind luck | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: so are you getting interested in what matters, then? | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: I suspect this was a local flavour of mess-up really, nothign to do with customs as such. | [15:49] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: aite. but if fella is in the americas and wants irons that the aboriginals can't or won't stock, possibly can help. | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: noted and thank you! | [15:52] |
| DKordic: | is looking at TMSR OS... | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: do you realise you *need* an identity as a pre-requisite for *everything* around here? | [15:56] |
| DKordic: | OK, I will be back one day. | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: and you know, if you are looking at tmsr-os, you are in the right place; however, if you want to do more than just look forever, you'll have to speak up, ask and learn. | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | DKordic: what do you think that will do? why not do something now while you are here? | [15:57] |
| DKordic: | thinks... | [15:59] |
| hanbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-25-Dec-2019#1013940 << indeed, and letting the sales end string you along for a week over chatting is the red flag to look out for in the future. i trust the chair people didn't hmm and haw and maybe they'll order an armrest here and glue it on plz wait an' see etc. sorry to hear you ran into such trouble tho'. i hope your box comes together soon, been an odyssey huh! | [16:31] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-25 14:59:58 diana_coman: iirc hanbot said she always picked the stuff up so possibly that's really ~the only way to avoid such mess in cr. | [16:31] |
| whaack: | asciilifeform: idk what is the criteria for facist customs. They charge a large impuesto but afaik everything makes it through. Unless it is biomatter, then the environmentalist squad confiscates and torches it. | [16:58] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-11-23 18:22:07 whaack: diana_coman: I have a bad experience of going to Guatemala for a local artist to pick up four bags of Flor De Madera, a wood that is distorted through fungal growth. The customs agents took all four bags and torched the wood because we didn't have a paper saying that it was treated. | [16:58] |
| whaack: | hanbot: the chair people + cococo had some tiny quirks but relatively/retrospectively they were great to work with. especially cococo, they are the only business so far that has followed up on their offer to deliver to my door. | [17:05] |
| dorion_road: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-24-Dec-2019#1013883 << thanks for the recommendation, I've yet to read Popper so will start with him when I start. | [17:43] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-12-24 13:09:22 diana_coman: dorion_road: btw, re Kant, if you just start reading philosophy, I recommend you start with Popper at least, it'll be both easier to follow and of more immediate interest to you I'd think. | [17:43] |
| whaack: | before I take apart and put back together the machine assembled by the ticos, I'm trying to view the bios screen. Nothing is coming out of the display port cable, is there some basic trouble shooting I should do? | [18:24] |
| whaack: | got it working by restarting the machine and switching to an hdmi cable. | [18:27] |
| whaack: | I'm going to start taking everything apart and putting it back together. Meanwhile I am downloading the centos 6.9 minimal iso found on the mirror here: http://archive.kernel.org/centos-vault/6.9/isos/x86_64/ | [18:39] |
| trinque: | some GPUs take their own power cable. | [19:12] |
| trinque: | bbl | [19:12] |
| whaack: | currently stuck trying to get the mounting brackets off the heat sink | [21:50] |
| trinque: | derp, missed the line where you said you got it working. | [22:35] |
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