#ossasepia Logs for 02 Oct 2019



April 20th, 2020 by Diana Coman
lobbes: diana_coman: ossabot fell down btw [00:43]
shrysr: thimbronion: ty for reminding me. i've updated that post and will get around to the remaining older posts over the next few days. Reason: somewhere around that point - https was removed.. i.e all my blog links will work if you use http. apologise for the inconvenience. [01:08]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-01-Oct-2019#1004363 - this is fine for usual work but *not* for problems of this sort; even with problems you need to discriminate, which ones can wait and which ones can't; you know, if it was non-wot blog, I would just stop commenting there entirely. [03:22]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-01 19:05:17 thimbronion: diana_coman: also, the optimal times for me to do dev work outside of my consulting work are Sat./Sun. mornings, so something like patching my blog I would usually save for that time. [03:22]
diana_coman: so no, don't save fixing front-line shit for when it's convenient, that's a very poor strategy. [03:23]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-01-Oct-2019#1004369 - Japan, the land of head-banging and furiously effective body-scrubbing; not bad for a first visit. [03:34]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-01 23:53:05 whaack_travel: diana_coman: done! http://ztkfg.com/2019/10/kyoto-japan/ [03:34]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-02-Oct-2019#1004370 - yes, it got stuck on idiotic error; I'll have to try bvt's fix for this. [03:35]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 00:43:56 lobbes: diana_coman: ossabot fell down btw [03:35]
diana_coman: might as well add it here too, since it's one of those "front-line trouble, needs sorted *now*, can't wait until it's convenient": http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939618 [04:08]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 04:07:18 diana_coman: and deployed; ossabot now running with bvt's fix for socket-trouble. [04:08]
diana_coman: fwiw no, manually resync of bots, manually applying fixes and doing redeploy first thing in the morning is not convenient at all. [04:09]
diana_coman: thimbronion: that irc networks lists is not bad for a start; see comment. [04:18]
auctionbot: B#1061 O=161mn LB=161mn E=2019-10-01 11:55:34.297573 (11h55) >>> 1209 Wired Filthy Fiats, WU is fine but not preferred [08:49]
auctionbot: --- end of auction list, 161mn total bids --- [08:49]
auctionbot: B#1061 O=161mn LB=161mn E=2019-10-02 05:55:34.297573 (5h55) >>> 1209 Wired Filthy Fiats, WU is fine but not preferred [08:49]
auctionbot: --- end of auction list, 161mn total bids --- [08:49]
diana_coman: !o uptime [09:16]
ossabot: diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 0d 5h 10m [09:16]
thimbronion: diana_coman: can you clarify the distinction between normal and front-line tasks for me? Also, what is the standard for republican blog functionality? [11:45]
thimbronion: shrysr: ty! [11:52]
thimbronion: I will be afk a lot today so apologies in advance if I am slow to respond. [11:57]
diana_coman: thimbronion: this would be the standard for republican blog functionality [12:04]
diana_coman: thimbronion: concrete details re normal vs front-line can be given in specific contexts really, not generically like that; the generic rule would be front-line = problems that get in other people's way really; those need to be addressed asap but "addressed" may mean giving a clear schedule re fix [12:08]
diana_coman: your html-eating trouble got in the way of *all* people who wanted perhaps to comment there and moreover it also had a potentially huge cost for you [12:10]
diana_coman: ie not fixing it quickly meant for sure losing information (at the very least the actual links) + potentially losing commenters in the long run + getting a bad rep too, hence the "it's a very poor strategy" [12:11]
diana_coman: so at the very least there should have been a "sorry people, I'll get around to fix this by Saturday, meanwhile please comment in chan and I'll add them there" + a notice on the blog or something [12:12]
diana_coman: but do note that every time you ask people to wait, that part has a cost too so you get to decide on what it's worth it and on what it's not (usually, if it's easy enough to fix, you are better off just doing it, no matter how inconvenient) [12:14]
diana_coman: thimbronion: did you just... vanish the irc-list post from your blog??? [12:45]
thimbronion: diana_coman: I put it back in draft mode for further editing. [13:58]
diana_coman: thimbronion: ugh, don't do that, no; once you published it, leave it there; update it afterwards (with marked "updated + date") but don't move it about [13:59]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's bad practice. publish errata instead. [14:00]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: what? [14:00]
asciilifeform: thimbronion: like e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3452 [14:00]
diana_coman: he published as draft; a list that wasn't complete but on which he could use feedback [14:00]
diana_coman: it's not exactly errata, no [14:00]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ah [14:00]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: was commenting re 'dun delete posts', but you spoke faster, lol [14:01]
diana_coman: thimbronion: if you just want my feedback on something, you can put it on paste.deedbot.org and ask me in chan; works that way too [14:02]
thimbronion: diana_coman: Ah ok yeah I like that approach. Would lack the formatting though. [14:03]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: dunno, you aimed at me "it's bad practice" so ... [14:03]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ah no, was for thimbronion [14:03]
asciilifeform: i mistyped. [14:03]
diana_coman: thimbronion: eh, a few spaces are usually enough to make sense of it really [14:04]
asciilifeform: with stomach virus, firing on 1 cylinder, prolly oughta stay off the consolex01 [14:04]
diana_coman: asciilifeform: better take care of yourself, yes; and get well soon! [14:04]
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman [14:04]
diana_coman: thimbronion: overall, the important bit that you seem to have little practice with - despite what /how it might seem, you are not working alone (or not anymore). [14:06]
thimbronion: diana_coman: I am certainly not used to anyone giving a shit about my blog. I usually work on pretty big teams, but we use issue trackers to coordinate. [14:12]
diana_coman: thimbronion: the whole point of a blog though is to ...communicate with others; so better use it like they are there anyway, regardless of what might seem, since 1. you can't really tell it, anyway 2. it's better to make good habits than bad habits, after all [14:17]
diana_coman: thimbronion: hopefully you don't want to add issue trackers around here though. [14:18]
thimbronion: diana_coman: I don't love them. [14:21]
diana_coman: I have yet to meet a sane person who also loves issue trackers, indeed. [14:24]

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