| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 252 has ENDED: 273 MA q1103 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 75mn coppers. Attn: diana_coman | [02:43] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (5h11) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (7h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (14h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (32h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (32h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (32h20) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (32h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (34h59) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 228.9mn total bids --- | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 254 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: mircea_popescu | [08:20] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 255 has ENDED: 4 SO q3840 SOLD to diana_coman for 40mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [10:27] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (6h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [11:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (24h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [11:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (24h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [11:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (24h20) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [11:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (24h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [11:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (26h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [11:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 188.9mn total bids --- | [11:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman around ? | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, 1 min | [11:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | np | [11:41] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ready | [11:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty! | [11:44] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [11:44] |
| diana_coman: | so it would seem there is ~some use for the low q wpl, though not much | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | something like that | [11:45] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (5h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [12:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (23h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [12:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (23h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [12:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (23h20) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [12:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (23h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [12:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (25h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [12:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 188.9mn total bids --- | [12:08] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman, convenient time for you to settle the wine? | [12:38] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, yes, give me 1 min to take out of storage | [12:38] |
| hanbot: | kk | [12:38] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy! | [12:39] |
| hanbot: | ty! | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | 3mn of bod, congratulations mircea_popescu | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | what q are the bod from those q1103 MA? | [12:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 10m 72 6 BoD q2188 | [12:50] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 262 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 6 BoD q2188 Opening: 10m coppers Ending: 2018-07-03 16:50:21 UTC (72 hours) | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty! | [12:50] |
| diana_coman: | not bad | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | also put some q 2k snails / beans in the mix | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yeah, these were leveraged, only looted 2 times in 11 clicks. | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 10 / (6*21.88*29170) | [12:53] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 2.61134950991e-06 | [12:53] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you mean 9 times you got only numina? | [12:55] |
| diana_coman: | out of 11, ouch | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's hard out there for a pimo | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | trynna make the money for the auction... | [12:56] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, that's the thing with high q - you turn 11 MA q1100 into 6 BoD at best, q 2200; double the q, half the number | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean 44. | [12:57] |
| diana_coman: | and that's still with a pop in the mix, no less | [12:57] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, great | [12:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc (6 * 21.88 * 29170) / (44 * 11.03 * 13451) | [12:58] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 0.58661374607 | [12:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | seems to me that it's actually a good deal, in being less than a 50\% loss. | [12:58] |
| diana_coman: | it certainly is less than 50\% loss | [12:59] |
| diana_coman: | not so sure whether "good" is an issue there at all; more like: is it sustainable? | [12:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno. | [12:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i honestly only did the clicks to have the datapoint. | [13:00] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, btw, do you still have any wpl remark bundles from spirover? | [13:00] |
| diana_coman: | since no double distillates at all and I already ate those I had, I'm in two minds if I shouldn't build that darned remark anyway, even if I'll get q1 wpl | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | it's sort of either get the few mns in q1 wpl or through them away entirely, dunno | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | which option is "good" there | [13:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | i do, yeah.\ | [13:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | how am i gonna price 'em though o.o | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | what markup do you want for it? | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | or dunno, would you rather buy the remark? (how the fuck do I price that) | [13:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, actually, i'd rather buy the remark tbh... | [13:02] |
| diana_coman: | look at this: the enum by itself is 3.4mn! | [13:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't think i ever dug up a remark | [13:03] |
| diana_coman: | if enums are like rest of bps 10\% of value, the remark would be somewhere around 34mn? o.O | [13:03] |
| diana_coman: | obv, q comes into it and hell knows how | [13:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | but if that were true how would you end up with q 1 bs. | [13:04] |
| diana_coman: | I'm quite certain you WILL end up with q1 stuff, yes | [13:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [13:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | no my idea is because im a noob maybe not ? | [13:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, what q is the enum ? | [13:04] |
| diana_coman: | q1720 | [13:04] |
| diana_coman: | I haven't managed to see noobs NOT end up with q1 on ord, let alone remarks (granted: never built remark with noob) | [13:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | hmpf. how could q 1.7k yield q1 | [13:05] |
| diana_coman: | seriously? | [13:05] |
| diana_coman: | let me dig that up for you | [13:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman and to add lulz to injury, my farming is l1. | [13:05] |
| diana_coman: | in ze logs | [13:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman nevermind. i checked -- dun have wpl. | [13:06] |
| diana_coman: | darn, where were those mn eps | [13:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | only wwb and wm | [13:06] |
| diana_coman: | hm? | [13:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | got ord wpl, but not remark. i suppose they might've been too heavy | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got sizable too. just not remark. | [13:07] |
| diana_coman: | lmao, so what were we taking about here | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | yup, dead. | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (4h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=No bids E=07-03 16:50:21 (71h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (22h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (22h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (22h20) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (22h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (24h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [13:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 188.9mn total bids --- | [13:08] |
| diana_coman: | oh well, not the first remarks I lose because can't build them any way, go me | [13:08] |
| diana_coman: | I guess I should be happy the enums don't vanish too | [13:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you find me dd bps ima make you some. | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | if you sell me some app gumbo I might stand a chance of finding those | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | or at least I can *try* | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | other than that dunno, I keep digging around but so far no bps from the ground at all | [13:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you know i got ~5~ journeyman gumbo | [13:10] |
| diana_coman: | do you think it's journeyman? | [13:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | need 232 asg | [13:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... figure it's a better shot neh ? | [13:11] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron is sitting on those remembrance tincture bps and apparently not even using them or something, what can I say | [13:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | you got any grime ? | [13:11] |
| diana_coman: | 2 of them, lel | [13:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i could click with 2... | [13:12] |
| diana_coman: | come to think of it I suppose one way to go about it would be to do some high value cooking for looting only | [13:12] |
| diana_coman: | to get more grimes maybe | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course, should i even click ? | [13:12] |
| diana_coman: | they are q541 and q540 | [13:12] |
| diana_coman: | I think it's prolly a noob that should click | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly huh. | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then i really should... sell these ? | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing wtf are you going to do with some q2000 bps? | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | how naive and youthful you are | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | well, noob won't have money to buy so dunno if sell necessarily; you need a click | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | q2000 bps ? really ? | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | TRY TEN THOUSAND!!! | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | what, 10k? | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | eh, what's in a k | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | we're fucked, i can't click these. even noob will en d up with like q100 or some shit | [13:14] |
| diana_coman: | that's not THAT bad | [13:14] |
| diana_coman: | what would you even want for those anyway? | [13:14] |
| diana_coman: | or for one of them or what | [13:14] |
| diana_coman: | honestly I'd try first to get more grimes I suppose, can't hurt to try at least | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don[' even recall how i got them | [13:15] |
| diana_coman: | auction? | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | must be. im digging | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-june-2016-statement/ << wtf ?! i don't have these ? | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | did someone else get them ?! | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | well,grep your chat log since you gave them away? | [13:19] |
| diana_coman: | maybe it was one of those auctions that didn't happen, don't recall | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | the mysteries of eulora. | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | but the chatlog idea is sound | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | not found o.O | [13:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2017-05-03.log.html#t06:50:08 | [13:28] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-05-03 06:50:08: <lobbesbot> A#72 O=1.561mn HB=15.2mn E=05-03 15:51:14 (9h1) >>> 5 never before seen Journeyman Lapidary Considerations q 1000. | [13:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so they went for 15 (old) millions. you want to pay 200mn for all 5 or 50mn for one ? | [13:30] |
| diana_coman: | 200mn for all 5 | [13:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | deal. | [13:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman sent you trade | [13:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | good luck to you! | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | 1 to 183 grimes, oh my | [13:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | and if you want me to package for you, i'll do it free. | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | will need it | [13:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | 232. | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | yes, if I can get them first; and at some good q as otherwise what's the point | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | I guess now... | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | !QBid 262 10m | [13:35] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 262: 6 BoD q2188 Heard: 10mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-03 16:50:21 UTC (71 hours 15 mins) | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | what's 10mn where 200 went | [13:35] |
| danielpbarron: | i can see about making some rememberance tinctures. they use almost wine | [13:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron are you short on that then ? | [13:37] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | uhm | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | im trying to decide what to make wioth this wpl i bought. i mean, it's either tuber milk or wine | [13:37] |
| danielpbarron: | they also use cs but i got those | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i guess then wine it is. | [13:37] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess tuber milk is also handy. what do ppl want more: tincture or screens? | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | screens i sold a few could sell a few more, so i guess not just as pressing. | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | also, they can get replaced | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | whereas tincture is afaik inexistent | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | would defo buy some | [13:39] |
| danielpbarron: | ok then | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite prolly will have a bunch of wine next week. won't be as high as previous sets i guess, but what can you do. | [13:40] |
| danielpbarron: | i have wine for now (i think) from a somewhat recent auction | [13:40] |
| danielpbarron: | but i want replacement wine if i'm gonna use it on that | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | aw was one of the things that kept being offered, what can I say | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah what happened to you danielpbarron , went silent for like a month there | [13:42] |
| danielpbarron: | 2 weeks | [13:42] |
| danielpbarron: | i was in new hampshire | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | was it any fun ? | [13:43] |
| danielpbarron: | oh yeah, we got kicked out and talked ourselves back in | [13:46] |
| danielpbarron: | blogpost prolly incomming | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | ha, so to get danielpbarron talking, one needs to ...kick him out | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | haha | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | tbh I'm half afraid this journeyman gumbo will give out some cake bps or that shit | [13:52] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (3h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (70h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (21h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (21h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (21h20) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (21h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (23h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [14:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 198.9mn total bids --- | [14:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman who even knows. maybe you get the altar bps, whichever they were | [14:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | i recall having to make distillates for hanbot once | [14:12] |
| diana_coman: | what, altar made gumbo?? | [14:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | she got a recipe once, it took some distillates | [14:12] |
| diana_coman: | it took the distillates, it wasn't made by cooking though | [14:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | but the ~distillates~ are. | [14:13] |
| diana_coman: | it's the distillates I wanted in the first place for the remark | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's two kinds though | [14:13] |
| diana_coman: | or at least two | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | logically there'd be three i guess | [14:13] |
| diana_coman: | the double distillates (wood) are what I need | [14:14] |
| diana_coman: | did she have triple distillates or what? | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty sure yeah | [14:14] |
| diana_coman: | simple distillate bps I even still have I think | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | me2 | [14:14] |
| diana_coman: | on a different note, re wpl xp and that, it really strikes me as inevitable atm from a miner's perspective that best deal as things stand is to ...mix low q with higher q to get it overall at smallest sweet spot | [14:15] |
| diana_coman: | because low q is easy to get; high q is harder than it's paid for | [14:15] |
| diana_coman: | so... | [14:15] |
| diana_coman: | but the root problem is still in no model for prices wrt q there | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's the lowest sweet spot ? | [14:17] |
| diana_coman: | it depends on how prices are calc, neh? there isn't even any calc for non-basics really | [14:18] |
| diana_coman: | basically at the point where one gains more from the bulk of lowering q than from adding q | [14:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | the problem here is this : to get low q bps, you can use noob cons click. to get high q bps, you have to get master cons click. the former is expensive for many reasons, such as much fewer bp count. | [14:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | therefore -- upping the quality of bundle through high bp is actually very expensive. | [14:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean yes, bv of bp only 1/10 that of bundle ; but markup on bp huge as compared to bundle also. | [14:19] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect it's mainly an artefact though | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | to get the same qx, do i prefer to use 10 ecu bp at 1500\% and 100 ecu bundle at 150\% or 1 ecu bp at 2000\% and 200 ecu bundle at 200\% ? sorta thing\ | [14:20] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing it's not even clear to me that atm bps really go for that anymore; at least ~any bp | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think ti depends a lot on bp yes | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | the old style bp socialism no longer sustainable | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | used to be "every bp gets its bundle". but ... not anymore. | [14:21] |
| diana_coman: | for the other thing it's really simple on the other side: a. for every q1000 item one gets a load of q30 items in the process ; b. the very low q (1-10) can actually be gotten with noobs at ~0 bv loss | [14:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeahbut those are basically quality halvers. | [14:23] |
| diana_coman: | so if one loses say 80\% to get q1000 and that's not translated into the markup for q1000 resources | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | looky : you have 100 wpl q 100. you could make it 200 wpl q 51... so basically... sell an extra 100 units of ~no bv. | [14:24] |
| diana_coman: | then ...mix them down and can eat a smaller markup | [14:24] |
| diana_coman: | it's not only bv, no | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | but basically by halving your quality you just get to sell 1\% more or so. | [14:25] |
| diana_coman: | ugh; it's not about bv only... | [14:27] |
| diana_coman: | it's about lower markup acceptable | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess... | [14:27] |
| diana_coman: | the other way is of course that markup paid for q 1000 is enough to cover getting it at that q anyway and that's it | [14:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't expect anything's going to be enough for anything ever sorta thing. | [14:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | just shades of insufficiency. | [14:31] |
| diana_coman: | guess so; introducing the third option of course: it costs so much to keep the darned things that one sells them at whatever price | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | why does it cost to keep ? | [14:34] |
| diana_coman: | running out of space in storage, ages to take it out/put it in, whatever; just adding to the insufficiency, nothing else | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, there's that. | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i certainly made a spectacular ~half bn loss by shredding a bunch of bps mostly to make room. | [14:36] |
| diana_coman: | so hm, why not sell them at bv or something? between 1000\% and 100\% one would think there is enough space to go, dunno | [14:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | i hoped i'd get something | [14:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | i did get like 100 bouq levels, but no pop. CUZ HANBOT STOLED IT | [14:38] |
| diana_coman: | got dusts at least? | [14:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. and lbn and so on. just no spectacular. | [14:39] |
| diana_coman: | ah, xp is not bad yes, there is that; sort of the hope/hook | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | honestly i was hoping ima top the top. | [14:40] |
| diana_coman: | that's why I still kept sending fox gathering with an axe - she does still rank up | [14:40] |
| diana_coman: | onth with cs she does get really high q resources but few and it's unclear there really are cs enough to go mining with them as if they were hoes | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | maybe that's the missing link - need to go mining with 1mn cs and problem solved | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | word. | [14:42] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (1h59) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (69h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (20h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (20h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (20h20) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (20h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (22h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [15:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 198.9mn total bids --- | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman whoa wd! | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | ha, not that bad; although mostly numina but at least they'll come in handy to make grimes I guess | [15:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | you don't loot on pops ? | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | I do; but loot can be numina only | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | it's anyway totally unclear what is "loot" and what is "output" anymore | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | i meant here, don't you get lots of the intended product, when you po p? | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | not always, not even all-that-frequently-with-fox, no | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | onth cor gets the product as loot even on non-pop | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. he somehow gets the product ~always, either first thing or loot later on | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | maybe foxy's good at lapidary for a reason - to make something of all those useless numina she gets otherwise, lol | [15:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. i get it lots too | [15:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | as in, a pop pretty much guaranteed to have a decent \% of product. | [15:28] |
| diana_coman: | foxy is one of a kind! | [15:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | apparently | [15:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | a damn. diana_coman mind putting the j through auction ? | [15:30] |
| diana_coman: | not at all, go ahead and I'll bid | [15:30] |
| diana_coman: | but they were through auction at that time and I didn't see them? | [15:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 200m 1 5 JGC q10000 | [15:30] |
| diana_coman: | original s.mg auction | [15:30] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 263 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 5 JGC q10000 Opening: 200m coppers Ending: 2018-06-30 20:30:43 UTC (1 hours) | [15:30] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 263 200m | [15:30] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 263: 5 JGC q10000 Heard: 200mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-06-30 20:30:43 UTC (0 hours 59 mins) | [15:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah at some point a year or so ago. | [15:30] |
| diana_coman: | iirc there was this point that rare/oddball items not that much worth recording | [15:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | was there ? | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | digs | [15:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | seems to me if money change hands, esp in the 9 figures... worth knowing about | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | I can't quite find it and I don't think it's worth digging for it all that much | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | agreed. | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw, should i sell ladles then ? | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, I think it was more at the very beginning when lobbes was questioning what to do /how to record and what | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | not really, I have tons and ...getting more ; see above | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | and I don't even know how many tinctures there will be or at what markup so sort of premature to say I need laddles - I have tons | [15:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | sadly i only got low q ones. | [15:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | have some nice q10k lints, but that's it. | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | even worse; at least I'd use high q ones to get some super-grimes | [15:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman do you mean the orig auction ? i linked it before | [15:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | A#69 or so | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but it wasn't in the list when I searched lobbes's price thing | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | 72 iirc | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. it was an auction, but it wasn't recorded in the history browser or smth | [15:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah yeah. hey lobbes ! you got old data not reflected ? | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | ftr I got >9k laddles only from this gin run, lolz | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | sadly no grime | [15:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | 9k count or 9k q ? | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | should i sell some q410 ltf btw ? | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | 9k count | [15:43] |
| diana_coman: | atm I'll finish this gin run, then feed it to some thread , then to some dt | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | and then hopefully get the bod too and click some cons and ...see what comes out | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | sounds like a plan. | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got 3 vapors myself... maybe i should click a j mcguyver cons... | [15:45] |
| diana_coman: | I have a few too, should I sell them? | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, actually. | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey Mocky ? esthlos ? who's around ? | [15:46] |
| Mocky: | i'm here, ish | [15:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | hmm... actually this is premature... i should load the bundle with more than the 3. | [15:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky it looks like you're going to get a click that might well guarantee #1 for the month position. | [15:46] |
| Mocky: | oh hey. FAME! | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I have 10 at q550 and 3 at q533 | [15:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman nb. what're you tihnking to get fopr them ? | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | honestly I don't quite know what'd be a fair price for them | [15:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you want these drudgeries btw ? since i can't lapidary... | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I even have some drudgeries; its tinctures I don't have | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | i only got 1 each. but the catch is, q 5k. so prolly will spit out mega quality... | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | or a lotta shards. | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | ugh; most likely the last one | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess depends lotsd on the loadout | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | yes but atm I have no idea | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | because it all hinges on the tinctures really | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | my drudgeries are at least lower q so .. | [15:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah... | [15:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | well basically... gotta wait a little on the mcguyv l3 items | [15:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think i have these since 2016, waiting on them. but what can i do! | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | thing is: I have no idea what I'd pay on those of yours - 1. they are only one of each so uhm, not much in a numbers game like eulora seems to be 2. they are high q so one gets high q but then likely to get shards high q | [15:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | welll - i have a lapidary one too :) | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | (this is the other part I've been pondering re high q - i.e. it's all nice and fine if you have loads of it but if you have only few, it might actually make *sense* to mix it down to simply get more tries at popping) | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is that, definitely. | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, those lapidary ones are funny to say the least | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | the problem with this game is that there's at least 3-4 different SETS of arguments for any question, each of which visibly incomplete and each of which with no obvious way to weigh the arguments. | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | quite | [15:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i dunno wtf to say. | [15:54] |
| hanbot: | i do indeed have 30 wood double distillate bps | [15:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | o.O | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | now she says it, lmao | [15:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao. AAAAAND then there's all sorts of unexpected emergences. | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | is going to click those journeyman cons ANYWAY | [15:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybew you get a minigoat airplane. | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | sounds logically like something one'd cook. | [15:56] |
| hanbot: | the rock dds went into altarmaking, i don't see why i oughta hold onto em. only issue is how the fux to price em | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot what'd you pay for them ? | [15:56] |
| hanbot: | i paid 70m pre-float for them + 30 rock dds + 100 canines of leet q + 50 doubtful tome doodles, http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-auction-february-the-28th/ | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh that;s what that was | [15:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | right, when the altars got made. | [15:57] |
| hanbot: | mhm | [15:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot well, if i remember correctly you're the gal that sells the parts for half what the bundle cost rite ? | [15:57] |
| hanbot: | lol hush! | [15:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | what bv are they ? show me one to see what it takes even ? | [15:58] |
| hanbot: | sure. lemme hump over to town, i'm en-dcs-ened | [15:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey! dcs! nice! | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, what do you pay for dcs? | [15:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have no fucking idea. 150 ? | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | hm, let me see then | [15:59] |
| hanbot: | yknow, yer shop says 200 | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [15:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean my 2016 shop ?! | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | for low q dcs 150\% is fine :P | [16:00] |
| hanbot: | hey, it sez you can rely on it being up to date | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh fuck me | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman no i meant q 1500+ !!11 | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | cool stuff, me goes back to gin | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | none of this hermit crab shells you folks keep peddling! I WANT ALASKAN CRAB SHELLS | [16:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman just kidding btw, i dun care. | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | lol; large quantities I have in q 10 only I'm afraid; any use for that? | [16:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, im flat out. | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | oh, oh; let's fix that: 91153 dcs q10 | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | I should make a flash auction on it I suppose | [16:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | make a day one why not. maybe danielpbarron wants some or w/e. | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 91153*547*0.1*1.5 | [16:04] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 7479103.65 | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | look at that change | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 7.48m 24 91153 DCS q10 | [16:05] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 264 STARTED by diana_coman: 91153 DCS q10 Opening: 7.48m coppers Ending: 2018-07-01 20:05:23 UTC (24 hours) | [16:05] |
| diana_coman: | PSS too? | [16:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | not low q tho, i got that. | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | 25wd, and otherwise snails thorns and wm | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty hanbot | [16:07] |
| hanbot: | np | [16:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you got high q wm ? | [16:07] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, but ...how the fuck do I replenish those? | [16:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | you want dd or don't you! | [16:08] |
| hanbot: | anyway the wdd bps are 728k bv each. | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | funnily enough all those are ..lumber; I thought you were the lumberjack! | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | o.O | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't mine! | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (0h59) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | 728k!!! | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (68h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (19h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (19h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (19h19) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (19h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#263 O=200mn HB=200mn E=06-30 20:30:43 (0h22) >>> 5 JGC q10000 | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | I can't yours too | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (21h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#264 O=7.48mn HB=No bids E=07-01 20:05:23 (23h56) >>> 91153 DCS q10 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 398.9mn total bids --- | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc .728*30 | [16:08] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 21.84 | [16:08] |
| hanbot: | i have low count high q wm mircea_popescu, how many are needed? | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | 11 per so 330 total. | [16:09] |
| hanbot: | i've only got 43 | [16:09] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I don't quite follow there though | [16:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other sads, i got about 20mn bv of wdistillate. enough for 1 click, and could take some more even. | [16:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyone got simple wood distillate bps ? and, foir that matte4r, high q gin ? :D | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [16:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman what don't you follow ? | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | as far as I can see it: hanbot has the double distillate bps so dunno how do I get exactly double distillates if I sell wm to ..you? | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i was gonna buy the bps also... i mean, you wanna click them yourself ? | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | if so, i'm more than willing to sell what wd i have. | [16:11] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, re distillates I have ~100 bps q 130 | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | nb. | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | I don't even know; but also: say I sell the wm; do I know I get the double distillates? or do I sell the wm to unique buyer you and then I get to bid against danielpbarron and hanbot to get the double distillates? | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | why, because they also want them ? | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [16:13] |
| hanbot: | isn't buying double distillates any time soon. | [16:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i guess the right move here is to sell the wd. | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | prolly first wait on the bps | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | whoever gets the bps has a use for the wd | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | or dunno, wait until I get to click this journeyman stuff and see if more bps are around , lower q too | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | well,hm, hopefully lower q | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc (3*997489+2*349635+14*786680 + 3 * 750688) | [16:15] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 16957321 | [16:15] |
| hanbot: | <diana_coman> I can't yours too << so if i put the bps on auction nao, you're not bidding, is the idea? | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, atm I just paid 200m on journeyman cons in the idea of getting those bps; what can I say really | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 50m 72 22 WD q1499 | [16:16] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 265 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 22 WD q1499 Opening: 50m coppers Ending: 2018-07-03 20:16:44 UTC (72 hours) | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | ^ the above q is computed average, you get the 22 items stated in the calc. | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | on the basis of, all the wd bps available being diana's ~q100, there's not going to be any q1k+ wd made anytime soon, so this is non-renewable resource as it stands. | [16:17] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman yeah, my fault for the delay. seems silly to auction them at the moment when she who could best use the thing just bowed out tho. | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 265 50m | [16:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 265: 22 WD q1499 Heard: 50mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-03 20:16:44 UTC (71 hours 57 mins) | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, any idea what would you pay for those vapours? | [16:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | well 200 in any case. ideally not much more than that. | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | but tbh i have nfi what pops out of jcons. what if altar bp ? | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | so 150\% lvl 2 numina at q304 and 200\% lvl 3 numina at q550? | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [16:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah hm... | [16:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | dude, god's truth, i have nfi. | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | me neither | [16:21] |
| hanbot: | then again not selling is how this problem pie were whipped up in the first place, so | [16:22] |
| hanbot: | !Qauction 250m 48 30 WDD theses q 2000 | [16:22] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 266 STARTED by hanbot: 30 WDD theses q 2000 Opening: 250m coppers Ending: 2018-07-02 20:22:33 UTC (48 hours) | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, tbh from where I'm sitting it really looks more like "not doing " than not selling; but maybe I'm biased, | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 232 * 100000 * 5.5 + 3 * 88462 * 5.5 + 8 * 29170 * 5.5 | [16:23] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 130343103 | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is potentially a 130mn bundle click. | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | ofc now it's all a fuck: you are selling the distillates so logically speaking dunno how you'd buy the bps | [16:24] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman what do you mean, not doing? not doing the clicks myself? | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, it's all a long road; no harvestables because uhm, not much exploring done, is there? and so on from there | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | I didn't buy those journeyman cons back in the day because I thought I had enough and not my thing anyway etc | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | someone else will click them etc | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | now I end up buying them at a premium and so on | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's all mocky 's fault. if he had that bot out monday i'd have mined 1bn worth by now!! | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | ahhaah, lol | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's ban him. | [16:26] |
| hanbot: | that's fairly vague. is the idea that other folks aren't playing enough? | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, I suppose I can equally put it that I'm playing too much | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | at the root of it yes: there isn't enough playing simply, all around | [16:27] |
| Mocky: | mircea_popescu, hey, bot could still come out on a monday! | [16:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman what do you figure the vapors worth on cost basis ? | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I'd say I'll let them go now for 300\% ; I don't see HOW could I even start calculating cost basis when they are obtained either a. as loot b. using tinctures that aren't even yet around (and will likely come at a hefty markup if history is any indicator) | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | ftr the wheel anyway is at 500\% so there is that on top | [16:30] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman, i hear ya. i've been active recently but grenadine was ~dead for quite a while. | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | fwiw the 3 i do have are q 990 | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | and what would you consider selling them for , out of curiosity? | [16:30] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 263 has ENDED: 5 JGC q10000 SOLD to diana_coman for 200mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect there's a rather strong bias in this sell vs buy calculating prices, you know | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess more like 350... | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | me too. | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | so do you think 50\% added to markup is not enough for the difference? | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | part of the problem is that even if i buy coupla dozen vapors from you i stil lcan't do the click | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | so there's a natural bias against it because of that | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | hm, I can prolly mix it for you if that's any help | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | what do you mean ? | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | you can't do the click because you don't have enough vapours? | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | or why? | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes, ideally i'd use the whole 232 no ? | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | ah, that | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | i thik. or if not, why even pay a premium on q at all. | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | yes, indeed; then best wait until tinctures are out I suppose | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, im getting wpl tomorrow, have a whole chain but hopefully can auction wine by mid week | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | although honestly, I do NOT see how would they be cheaper; i.e. tinctures will probably cost an eye and a leg | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i expect they'd be very high q ? | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | no idea | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | at least that's part of my concern here, prolly toil product >1k ? | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | ah, that yes; but tinctures dunno | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | you selling those wd bps btw ? | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | I guess it makes sense to sell those at least or I'll really end up doing ~everything | [16:36] |
| diana_coman: | other than *that* reason I'm not sure I see many, but it'll do | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... if you make your own wd and dwd you'll end up with some helluva cooking xp | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course... i keep forgetting, was foxy good at that or poor at that ? | [16:37] |
| diana_coman: | certainly poorer than at lapidary; possibly better than at building, what can I say | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 10*100*6683 | [16:38] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 6683000 | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 7m 48 100 WDbp q130 | [16:39] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 267 STARTED by diana_coman: 100 WDbp q130 Opening: 7m coppers Ending: 2018-07-02 20:39:26 UTC (48 hours) | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, i got the impression you wanted to do teh cooking earlier. now i'm getting teh impression you dun wanna do the cooking. | [16:39] |
| diana_coman: | I'm sure there's plenty of cooking to be done for everyone who wants it | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | tru. | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 16957321 / 14.99 / 22 | [16:41] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 51420.1012796 | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | how the fuck is it possible dwd bv = wd bv | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | I took the qabv from storage ftr | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | me 2 | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh oh. darn. it's the same thing lol, comparing wd with wd | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got confused. | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | lol! | [16:42] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (67h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#265 O=50mn HB=50mn E=07-03 20:16:44 (71h8) >>> 22 WD q1499 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (18h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (18h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (18h19) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (18h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (20h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#264 O=7.48mn HB=No bids E=07-01 20:05:23 (22h56) >>> 91153 DCS q10 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#267 O=7mn HB=No bids E=07-02 20:39:26 (47h30) >>> 100 WDbp q130 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#266 O=250mn HB=No bids E=07-02 20:22:33 (47h14) >>> 30 WDD theses q 2000 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 248.9mn total bids --- | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 256 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: mircea_popescu | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 264 7.5mn | [17:09] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 264: 91153 DCS q10 Heard: 7.5mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-01 20:05:23 UTC (22 hours 55 mins) | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 267 7mn | [17:09] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 267: 100 WDbp q130 Heard: 7mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-02 20:39:26 UTC (47 hours 29 mins) | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 266 250mn | [17:09] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 266: 30 WDD theses q 2000 Heard: 250mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-02 20:22:33 UTC (47 hours 12 mins) | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 1m 48 14400 TPT q37 | [17:55] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 268 STARTED by diana_coman: 14400 TPT q37 Opening: 1m coppers Ending: 2018-07-02 21:55:41 UTC (48 hours) | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 30.76m 48 1001 WM q1970 | [17:56] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 269 STARTED by diana_coman: 1001 WM q1970 Opening: 30.76m coppers Ending: 2018-07-02 21:56:15 UTC (48 hours) | [17:56] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ^ | [17:56] |
| diana_coman: | so it can't be said there aren't high q wm, at any rate | [17:56] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (66h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#265 O=50mn HB=50mn E=07-03 20:16:44 (70h8) >>> 22 WD q1499 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (17h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (17h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (17h19) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (17h20) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (19h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#264 O=7.48mn HB=7.5mn E=07-01 20:05:23 (21h56) >>> 91153 DCS q10 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#267 O=7mn HB=7mn E=07-02 20:39:26 (46h30) >>> 100 WDbp q130 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#268 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-02 21:55:41 (47h47) >>> 14400 TPT q37 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#269 O=30.76mn HB=No bids E=07-02 21:56:15 (47h47) >>> 1001 WM q1970 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#266 O=250mn HB=250mn E=07-02 20:22:33 (46h14) >>> 30 WDD theses q 2000 | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 513.4mn total bids --- | [18:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | !qbid 268 1mn | [19:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 268 1mn | [19:33] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 268: 14400 TPT q37 Heard: 1mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-02 21:55:41 UTC (46 hours 21 mins) | [19:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i was doing "48 mushrooms... umm... wtf happeend here" | [19:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | 200\% huh. | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | wtf am i going to do with them if you get my wd. | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-30.log.html#t22:08:40 >> http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-04.log.html#t21:46:38 new record, even. | [19:59] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-30 22:08:40: <lobbesbot> --- end of auction list, 513.4mn total bids --- | [19:59] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (64h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#265 O=50mn HB=50mn E=07-03 20:16:44 (68h8) >>> 22 WD q1499 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (15h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (15h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (15h19) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (15h19) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (17h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#264 O=7.48mn HB=7.5mn E=07-01 20:05:23 (19h56) >>> 91153 DCS q10 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#267 O=7mn HB=7mn E=07-02 20:39:26 (44h30) >>> 100 WDbp q130 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#268 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-02 21:55:41 (45h47) >>> 14400 TPT q37 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#269 O=30.76mn HB=No bids E=07-02 21:56:15 (45h47) >>> 1001 WM q1970 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#266 O=250mn HB=250mn E=07-02 20:22:33 (44h14) >>> 30 WDD theses q 2000 | [20:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 514.4mn total bids --- | [20:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 269 30.76mn | [21:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 269: 1001 WM q1970 Heard: 30.76mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-02 21:56:15 UTC (44 hours 37 mins) | [21:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | on doing some math & reflection, it occurs to me that "oh, whjat am i going to put it in" is a deffective approach. | [21:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | wm probably is worth 200\% at q almost 2k. that i don't have what to mix it with is not germane. | [21:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it further occurs to me that probably the correct loadout is so that all elements go for ~same markup. ie, this 200\% wm i will want to mix with 200\% snails and 200\% thorns, whatever quality those end up being, 10k, whatever. | [21:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | and with 200\% distillate, also whatever q that may end up being, 500 or w/e. | [21:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dub this same-markup-loadout heuristic. | [21:20] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu but the outputs are still valued at q? or are you going to sell your outputs at markup\%? | [21:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, the outputs will be valued by q on a diff scale, basically. | [21:23] |
| hanbot: | hm | [21:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | just like basics and say wm are on diff scales. | [21:27] |
| hanbot: | right, makes sense | [21:28] |
| lobbesbot: | A#262 O=10mn HB=10mn E=07-03 16:50:21 (62h41) >>> 6 BoD q2188 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#265 O=50mn HB=50mn E=07-03 20:16:44 (66h8) >>> 22 WD q1499 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#257 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:10 (13h19) >>> 92 SBe q1735 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#258 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:14 (13h19) >>> 92 SLe q1735 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#259 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:26 (13h19) >>> 92 SMo q1735 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#260 O=46mn HB=46mn E=07-01 15:28:29 (13h19) >>> 92 SSo q1735 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#261 O=4.9mn HB=4.9mn E=07-01 18:07:22 (15h58) >>> 78467 WPL q34 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#264 O=7.48mn HB=7.5mn E=07-01 20:05:23 (17h56) >>> 91153 DCS q10 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#267 O=7mn HB=7mn E=07-02 20:39:26 (42h30) >>> 100 WDbp q130 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#268 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-02 21:55:41 (43h47) >>> 14400 TPT q37 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#269 O=30.76mn HB=30.76mn E=07-02 21:56:15 (43h47) >>> 1001 WM q1970 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#266 O=250mn HB=250mn E=07-02 20:22:33 (42h14) >>> 30 WDD theses q 2000 | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 545.16mn total bids --- | [22:08] |
| lobbesbot: | Post from mocky: Meanwhile in Perfectly Stacked <http://mocky.org/Meanwhile-in-Perfectly-Stacked/> | [23:39] |
| Mocky: | ^ mircea_popescu, diana_coman, anyone else who cares about mining / stacking: I'm interested in any feedback if you get the opportunity | [23:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | lessee | [23:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky the specification seems fine to me. | [23:53] |
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