| mircea_popescu: | !Qcancel 248 | [01:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qhelp | [01:06] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: http://lobbesblog.com/lobbesbotcommands | [01:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qauctioncancel 248 | [01:06] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 248 was cancelled by mircea_popescu | [01:06] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (11h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [01:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (11h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [01:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (14h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [01:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 60.36mn total bids --- | [01:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, not really re pocc, it's still a resources sort of thing i.e. as long as I have resources I can make it quite high q as well anyway | [02:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am looking for some ma... | [02:20] |
| diana_coman: | ah, I'll have a look when I'm back in town | [02:20] |
| diana_coman: | ffs 50 cs and ALL smalls | [02:27] |
| diana_coman: | I don't think I ever saw this before; that microchip totally exhausted foxy's luck or something | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | smalls can be good i guess... | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I have 273 MA 1103q | [02:36] |
| diana_coman: | 10k mcguyver and 13.5k lapidary with a dash of medium mining I suppose, since tpt and pss is unclear where they fit | [02:37] |
| diana_coman: | guess I'll auction them starting at 185\% | [02:40] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 1.85*273*11.03*13451 | [02:40] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 74931505.8765 | [02:40] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 75m 72 273 MA q1103 | [02:43] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 252 STARTED by diana_coman: 273 MA q1103 Opening: 75m coppers Ending: 2018-06-30 06:43:02 UTC (72 hours) | [02:43] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 2*22*7.56*35880 | [02:45] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 11935123.2 | [02:45] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 12m 48 22 AW q756 | [02:45] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 253 STARTED by diana_coman: 22 AW q756 Opening: 12m coppers Ending: 2018-06-29 06:45:36 UTC (48 hours) | [02:45] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, hanbot , possibly of interest ^ | [02:45] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (47h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=No bids E=06-30 06:43:02 (71h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (9h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (9h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (12h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 60.36mn total bids --- | [03:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 252 75mn | [07:58] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 252: 273 MA q1103 Heard: 75mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-06-30 06:43:02 UTC (66 hours 44 mins) | [07:58] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (42h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [08:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (66h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [08:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (4h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [08:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (4h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [08:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (7h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [08:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 135.36mn total bids --- | [08:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, look at this: f q61 + sr q117 + bundled by Foxy + bp q120 + crafted by Cor -> IBS q121 with a *regular* conversion rate of 80\% (i.e. 80\% of input is obtained as IBS q121 at every click; mini-pops raise this up over a longer run) | [08:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is nice! | [08:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | bundle q is what, 90s ? | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | no, bundle q is 291 actually but he gets 2 ibs per click | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | foxy would get q201 but she gets only tpf really | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc (5*61 + 3 * 117)/8 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 82 | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so basically master-bundled-apprentice-clicked is the key to quality leverage ? | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | that's how it certainly seems to me, yes | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, it would seem that selling bundles might make possibly more sense than selling harvestables at least for noob/medium crafters if there are any around | [08:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can see it. | [08:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 1m 72 2 TT q2067 | [08:20] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 254 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 2 TT q2067 Opening: 1m coppers Ending: 2018-06-30 12:20:16 UTC (72 hours) | [08:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | attn danielpbarron or who was it that ever used this ? | [08:20] |
| diana_coman: | what's tt? | [08:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | the above ftr is all the tea ima be making for a while ; it's a fucking bitch to make and besides out of nuts. | [08:20] |
| diana_coman: | ah, tea | [08:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | tuber tea | [08:20] |
| diana_coman: | yes, I think he said it went into some higher level stuff but iirc he also said he couldn't make them for some reason | [08:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | the teas or the stuffs ? | [08:21] |
| diana_coman: | the stuffs | [08:21] |
| diana_coman: | heh, I even still have 1 tea made in the veeeeery beginning and it's actually q1240, not that terrible even | [08:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | word. | [08:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think i remember wehen you made this, even | [08:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | was way early, i think jurov was still playing | [08:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2014s ? | [08:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman any demand for q1500 toils on your part ? im loath to click them myself and end up with yet another line | [08:25] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, maybe if they are mcguyver? I kind of have those myself and they are a bitch because I'd need some q10k inputs or shit to really make use of them properly | [08:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much lapidary you got yet ? | [08:27] |
| diana_coman: | tea iirc was more like 2015 - I even drank one at the time but I can't seem to find the post on it, lol | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | i remember that article! | [08:28] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, 800 as per http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-25.log.html#t12:22:07 | [08:28] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-25 12:22:07: <diana_coman> yay, got 800 lapidary! | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | im 100s lol. | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much can you pack in a toil bp ? | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1.5k - 1975 here | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | found it http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/06/30/a-thing-to-be-treasured-or-the-secret-of-eulorian-samovars/ | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | 4381-5755 on tink toil at least | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | apparently it might be the same everywhere; it's same on gumbo at least | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | and 4-6 woa | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | no, 5-6 | [08:31] |
| diana_coman: | o.O cor mini-popped on ibs, got some 400 of them + 3 sentiments even, heh | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | those must be sentiments of great satisfaction | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | so the doctrine is that... i should actually click those toil bps ? | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | hm, you might want to try maybe with a foxy-made bundle? but they do seem sort of too huge q | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | even with noobs, usually it ends up poorly with such huge q bps | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | maybe let them be for laters? | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | or what's the issue there? | [08:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | nothing, going through my storage, tryna figure shit out | [08:37] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (41h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (71h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (65h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (3h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (3h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (6h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 135.36mn total bids --- | [09:07] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, cheese master mircea_popescu , congratulations! | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | >D | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | using up these molluscs. you wany any cheese for any reason btw ? | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | I think I still have a pile from last time and anyway, not that many ointment bps | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | foxy's not terribly high on cooking either | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, I should probably make more MA now that those are selling at least, I suppose | [10:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh, speaking of ointment | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 40m 72 4 SO q3840 | [10:27] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 255 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 4 SO q3840 Opening: 40m coppers Ending: 2018-06-30 14:27:39 UTC (72 hours) | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i never know if it goes in a mining recipe or anything. | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | it does go into remarks, but usually in big numbers and /or alongside double distillates and the like | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 255 40m | [10:50] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 255: 4 SO q3840 Heard: 40mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-06-30 14:27:39 UTC (71 hours 36 mins) | [10:51] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (39h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (69h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (71h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (63h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (1h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (1h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (4h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 175.36mn total bids --- | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 246 has ENDED: 58 ISA q41817 SOLD to hanbot for 4mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [12:46] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 247 has ENDED: 182004 BMN q304 SOLD to diana_coman for 6.36mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [12:54] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (37h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (67h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (69h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (61h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (2h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 165mn total bids --- | [13:07] |
| Mocky: | while testing out bot fixes, I just got stuck again holding over weight loot in inv and unable to transfer to the table. I now think that at least some occurrences of this issue are a server issue that must occur in any possible client. Basically the server is saying, "yes you are well within reach of the table, and you can view it & pick it up, but you can't transfer" | [13:38] |
| Mocky: | this is based on my reading of the network traffic between client and server | [13:39] |
| Mocky: | a log of client / server messages is here, please pardon that lines wrap: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9BXNd/?raw=true | [13:41] |
| Mocky: | my analysis of the log is here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yqCTY/?raw=true | [13:42] |
| Mocky: | from a client perspective, in the absence of a server change, I think that the best option is to transfer the loot back into the claim, pickup and re-drop the table and try again. | [13:43] |
| Mocky: | please, if you do see flaws in my reading of the messages, do let me know | [13:45] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (36h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (66h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (68h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (60h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (1h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 165mn total bids --- | [14:07] |
| diana_coman: | hm, Mocky does re-login solve this sort of issue? | [14:21] |
| diana_coman: | and also: does pickup actually work in that case? | [14:24] |
| Mocky: | pickup does work, yes, once unburdened. relog i don't know | [14:25] |
| Mocky: | ha! just figured out why i occasionally get a key into my right hand slot. i have a claim marker where whatever you try to transfer into it, the server responds that you put it into the same slot of you own equipment! | [14:26] |
| diana_coman: | in your dump there I see: ----> 1975372 MSGTYPE_USERCMD(13) H 0 18 > Command: '/pickup'Error: Not Decoded | [14:27] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, you might be getting mixed up in the planeshift idiocy wrt slots | [14:27] |
| Mocky: | that is the output of the logging whenever you do a pickup by eid, even when successful | [14:27] |
| diana_coman: | lol, I see | [14:27] |
| Mocky: | i think the logger just doesn't understand it | [14:27] |
| Mocky: | i verifed this 'funky' claim by hand. manually drag a key to slot zero, it goes into your right hand, drag to slot 1 it goes in you left hand! | [14:29] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, the slots are an inherited unbelievable mess; besides ad-hoc half-assed address-coding for stuff, there are all sorts of weird things such as "container = -1 means in world directly, container = id means in container, equipped slots are 1-15, inventory is from 16 on etc) | [14:29] |
| diana_coman: | weirder and weirder, lol | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | and slot 2? | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | does it go in some other equipped slot? | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | it sounds as if it basically thinks claim=char in that case | [14:30] |
| Mocky: | any other slot you get "it doesn't fit there" as if you had tried | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | ah,ah, that WOULD be because other slot | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | you can't equip a key on your head | [14:30] |
| Mocky: | i bet if i had something that would fit there, could do it | [14:31] |
| diana_coman: | try it and you'll see you get the same error | [14:31] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [14:31] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, it's useful because now it's clearer what happens: for whatever reason, it thinks you are trying to move stuff to your char instead of to claim | [14:31] |
| Mocky: | ha! | [14:31] |
| Mocky: | if i drag bp to slot 15 in container goes in my head | [14:31] |
| diana_coman: | and, hm, I think I might know why - iirc when I looked into your code you were possibly not setting correctly that whole mess with container & slot | [14:32] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [14:32] |
| Mocky: | yeah, i saw that server honors both the "bulk inv" coord system and the "base inv" coord system so I just used the base without converting to bulk. however I tried both with on the table at issue above and neither worked | [14:34] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [14:35] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, is "toContainer" there set the same when it works and when it doesn't? | [14:36] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, by the sounds of it, I'd go for pickup table and drop ; iirc this changes its eid | [14:38] |
| diana_coman: | all this nonsense will go away once we finally have a sane communication protocol | [14:39] |
| Mocky: | toContainer is set to what was in the PERSIST_ITEM from server, in this case 24, same as with another marker I'm standing next to: 42719 that works | [14:42] |
| Mocky: | re-log does fix the claim marker. i see that it has a different id | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, it sounds like an id issue and that can't be fixed without burning the client down | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | with the table there is the pickup workaround because it changes the table's id | [14:48] |
| diana_coman: | with the claim though I can't really think of anything other than re-login unfortunately (since you can't pick it up) | [14:48] |
| Mocky: | only work around i see for the claim is to not use it, yeah | [14:48] |
| diana_coman: | yes, on any given longish run there will be a number of those | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose you can lock it | [14:49] |
| Mocky: | true | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | to not lose it perhaps, but not sure it's worth it | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | and certainly not if tiny at any rate | [14:49] |
| Mocky: | right. my guess is i've seen this issue less than one half of one percent of the time | [14:51] |
| Mocky: | however mircea_popescu hits it immediately every time he runs the bot it seems! | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | but honestly, since the point is to run it over thousands of claims, it WILL happen | [14:52] |
| Mocky: | yeah definitely need to handle. | [14:54] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (35h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (65h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (67h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (59h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (0h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 165mn total bids --- | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 251 has ENDED: 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 50mn coppers. Attn: hanbot | [15:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman there's something very weird afoot ; i ended up in a very different place from where i was | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, client-only though | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | i relogged, i was still there | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | hm, that is weird; far away from where you thought you were? | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | by the volcano's edge | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | client-server comms have a sort of "order" id which is only 1-255 and reset; in principle out of order messages are ignored | [15:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | fortunately my table was not et upon my return | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | but I saw a similar thing earlier with foxy - basically it moved me where I *had* been a few hours before, but it was client-side only i.e. walking a bit about brought me back | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | come to think of it, if you logged out it *could* be that client sent new position and on server side the "too far from old" did not get triggered so new position got saved effectively | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | basically my current suspicion is that the spammy attitude re position made that counter loop over and ... | [15:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [16:00] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (34h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (64h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (66h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (58h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 115mn total bids --- | [16:07] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu, wanna pick up yer almanac? | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | please. | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman yours ? | [16:09] |
| hanbot: | enjoy! | [16:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaaahahaha | [16:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | the comment on this thing | [16:09] |
| hanbot: | hehehe | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, can do, yes | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | was puzzling over flagons | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | with bp q 127 I get q 498, but...1/3 | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | with bp q 64 I get q353 | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | with bp q 95 onth I get it q 430 | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | q being ofc is it worth to gamble it on some pop and go with q 498 1/3 sort of | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | or go for the q 430 (which can also pop, there is loot anyway) | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, tried trade, said u busy | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | all these ladies lookin at me... | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | yuck | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman can you make vapors or grimes ? | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | if you sell me remembrance tincture, I could | [16:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky that is consistent with what i've been seeing. | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | other than that, well, I have some looted from crafting | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i think your approach is sound. though this is a will fix. | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i got no bps. you got bps ? | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | no bps here either, no; danielpbarron has them as far as I know | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman cp bps you got ? | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | cp? | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | congressional pulp | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | ah, I think I do, lemme look | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, yep, q92 on the low side | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much for a coupla ks ? | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | hm? are bp prices changing nao? | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, I have 1085 cp bp q92 and 1571 cp bp q96 so that's about it | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | if you want them at usual markup I'll just sell them on the spot | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | im not about to pay 1k\% for cp bps no | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | ook | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | they do take space, but so do loads of others, lol | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | :p | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, are flagons q430 any good for you for woa? | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... i won't say no to trying a run. | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | is still fiddling around here | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | apparently the q is : better flagons q430 or better 4 times more (at least) flagons q 250 | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | bv is clearly more in 2nd case but... | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... putting 2k\% ss into q 250 flagon seems iffy | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | especially as we're not quite reproducing it yet. | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i'd begame to make it out of q250s if you also put out some q1-300 ss ? | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | hm, will have to see | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | for now I'll let it run on q430 and hope it'll at least mini-pop, that's pretty much the only chance for it to end up anything other than a veeery expensive experiment | [16:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | word. | [16:56] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (33h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (63h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (65h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (57h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 115mn total bids --- | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 5mn 72 53 ATC q49 | [17:08] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 256 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 53 ATC q49 Opening: 5mn coppers Ending: 2018-06-30 21:08:25 UTC (72 hours) | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i gather low q consen are better ? | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | they are but uhm, honestly http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-12.log.html#t21:54:01 | [17:15] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-12 21:54:01: <lobbesbot> AUCTION # 199 has ENDED: 120 ATC q16 SOLD to diana_coman for 3mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [17:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | hoyl shit it upgraded me to needing 2 tomes. this is bs. | [17:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman oh oh. k | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | apprentice gumbo if you have though, I'll buy | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | 2 tomes is great, what | [17:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | why ? i used the min. | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | depends what you want | [17:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | true. | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, the pill if you really just want to fill the space is to use some q1 tomes stuff | [17:20] |
| diana_coman: | mpop,mpop | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | but uhm, if you click them then you get high q bps, no? | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [17:23] |
| diana_coman: | me? a mpop is you, lol; congrats! | [17:24] |
| diana_coman: | uh, oh, did not even see it, lmao | [17:25] |
| diana_coman: | hooray for the saving pop! | [17:25] |
| diana_coman: | mostly....flags though | [17:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman soo... i did an experimental run, 31 clicks of UHQ bp. | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | ended up with ~one~ q 10k cft. | [17:28] |
| diana_coman: | is that surprising? | [17:28] |
| diana_coman: | what q was the bundle? | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | ~5k | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's not surprising, just saying, i have the best quality cft in game nao! | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, you were jealous of my 8k q cft!!111 | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | >D | [17:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | obrazul subtire... | [17:31] |
| diana_coman: | cu un singur fir subtire se tine :))) | [17:31] |
| diana_coman: | funnily enough I'm making flagons to make woa to make lvl 2 numina and when I pop on it, I get in fact...lvl 2 numina mostly | [17:31] |
| diana_coman: | and it's totally possible it's actually even cheaper to get that lvl 2 numina *this* way, lmao | [17:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha! | [17:33] |
| diana_coman: | ofc on the other hand I make the flagons because... loads of bps and better use of wpl etc | [17:33] |
| diana_coman: | so well... | [17:33] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (32h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (62h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (64h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (71h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (56h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 115mn total bids --- | [18:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | wine dun sell anymore either huh. | [18:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#253 O=12mn HB=No bids E=06-29 06:45:36 (31h37) >>> 22 AW q756 | [19:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#254 O=1mn HB=No bids E=06-30 12:20:16 (61h12) >>> 2 TT q2067 | [19:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#255 O=40mn HB=40mn E=06-30 14:27:39 (63h19) >>> 4 SO q3840 | [19:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#256 O=5mn HB=No bids E=06-30 21:08:25 (70h0) >>> 53 ATC q49 | [19:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#252 O=75mn HB=75mn E=06-30 06:43:02 (55h35) >>> 273 MA q1103 | [19:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 115mn total bids --- | [19:07] |
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