| lobbesbot: | A#244 O=2.6mn HB=2.6mn E=06-25 17:00:51 (12h53) >>> 8 ETD 109600q | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (21h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (60h39) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (60h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (60h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (21h34) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (21h35) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [00:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 321.26mn total bids --- | [00:07] |
| diana_coman: | heh, the grc at least was really welcome shot | [02:54] |
| diana_coman: | a pumped up cs small (i.e. with some 4k+ q cft) | [02:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | they still ended up q ..90 | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | but at least a bunch of them | [02:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | nb. | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | prolly hanbot will soon sell a batch q3k or whatevers from the altar though | [02:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno teeth high q are so valuable. | [02:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | ss is cuz woa and dt. | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | I guess I should rather make more ampoules and/or bod, no? | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | grc same, lel? | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | at least dt takes it | [02:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes but 2-3 teeth, 50 ss | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | true | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | ah, before I forget again: I'll take those tpf at 110\% mircea_popescu | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | makes sense as table doesn't have decay | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | and foxy can eat lvl 1 numina by the ton as long as there is woa | [02:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | you want the whole lot ? i got a ton | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | hopefully not some < 100 q though | [02:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | then I'll get them, what can it hurt | [02:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok gimmr like 15 minutes to dig it all out o.O | [02:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill ping ya | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | oh hey, 73mn on maculature/cons, not bad for mircescu either | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow, 15min?? | [03:01] |
| diana_coman: | hmm, I'm around pretty much for that atm, hopefully it does fit in | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 10 * 1.1 * (1816771 * 1.95 + 168026 * 1.94) | [03:05] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 42555412.79 | [03:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman ^ | [03:05] |
| diana_coman: | not bad | [03:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, ima put an auction in, 1 hour only, just to get lobbes the record on the trade. bid if you don't mind, though it's consumated here. | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#244 O=2.6mn HB=2.6mn E=06-25 17:00:51 (9h53) >>> 8 ETD 109600q | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (18h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [03:07] |
| diana_coman: | ah, k | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (57h39) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (57h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (57h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (18h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (18h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 321.26mn total bids --- | [03:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 42.55mn 1 1983935 TPF q195 | [03:07] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 249 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 1983935 TPF q195 Opening: 42.55mn coppers Ending: 2018-06-25 08:07:58 UTC (1 hours) | [03:07] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 249 42.55m | [03:08] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 249: 1983935 TPF q195 Heard: 42.55mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-06-25 08:07:58 UTC (0 hours 59 mins) | [03:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | an trade at your leisure. | [03:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | tyvm | [03:10] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [03:10] |
| diana_coman: | hopefully it pops on sentiments and I'll be able to lower the price on them, what can I say | [03:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | as it is i got a shitton of those too. | [03:10] |
| diana_coman: | q4k and more? | [03:11] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, if bps don't sell because too many and lvl2 numina are not needed because...too many | [03:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [03:11] |
| diana_coman: | dunno, but something is wrong | [03:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill tell you what is wrong, i can't fucking mine is what's wrong | [03:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got half a billion in lbn i can't get out | [03:11] |
| diana_coman: | well at the root of it, yes | [03:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [03:12] |
| diana_coman: | but honestly I start thinking even that won't really solve it | [03:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | it'd do a lot for me. | [03:12] |
| diana_coman: | to use up those bps it takes mountains of resources | [03:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, i burn tons of them. this weekend i killed in excess of 800 mn of BV of bps. | [03:12] |
| diana_coman: | and moreover regardless of the glut, there ARE some bps that are not really coming and then you need to click cons and get more of those that are already too many sort of thing | [03:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | took like 8 hours. but it did happen | [03:13] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, but basically it accumulates into craft-table bps or other shit nobody needs | [03:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | ct bps go into grimy toolkits | [03:13] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose one can use them to make numina but it's a bit idiotic | [03:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | which i'd make a bunch of if only i had dcs | [03:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | it all hangs on mining. | [03:13] |
| diana_coman: | fine, take something else such as toupe | [03:13] |
| diana_coman: | or hoof gloves | [03:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't do this because no pss ; that because no dcs and many things because no wpl and so on | [03:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | these go into maculature | [03:13] |
| diana_coman: | uhm? | [03:13] |
| diana_coman: | now you suggest actually using bps? | [03:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's why it took me hours to sort out my maculature run, had to pile all of these | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | no cons? | [03:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | to make maculature | [03:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm telling you i made a bunch ? | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | so you shred, or what? | [03:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, hence my "actually using bps" | [03:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm confused. is actually using as in clicking them or actually using as in shredding them ? | [03:15] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I'm out for now | [03:15] |
| diana_coman: | shredding | [03:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | laters. | [03:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw you realise to cook these woa recipes ima need... leather | [04:03] |
| lobbesbot: | A#244 O=2.6mn HB=2.6mn E=06-25 17:00:51 (8h53) >>> 8 ETD 109600q | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (17h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (56h39) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (56h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (56h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (17h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (17h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 363.81mn total bids --- | [04:07] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 249 has ENDED: 1983935 TPF q195 SOLD to diana_coman for 42.55mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [04:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes lol did we find a bug in your bot ? | [04:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#244 O=2.6mn HB=2.6mn E=06-25 17:00:51 (7h53) >>> 8 ETD 109600q | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (16h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (55h39) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (55h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (55h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (16h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (16h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [05:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 321.26mn total bids --- | [05:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, re leather you know the trouble was that we don't agree on the price at any rate | [05:22] |
| diana_coman: | so I might end up selling flagons I suppose | [05:23] |
| diana_coman: | not as if I don't have ton of bps | [05:23] |
| lobbesbot: | A#244 O=2.6mn HB=2.6mn E=06-25 17:00:51 (6h53) >>> 8 ETD 109600q | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (15h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (54h39) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (54h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (54h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (15h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (15h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [06:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 321.26mn total bids --- | [06:07] |
| diana_coman: | yay, got 800 lapidary! | [08:22] |
| lobbesbot: | A#244 O=2.6mn HB=2.6mn E=06-25 17:00:51 (3h53) >>> 8 ETD 109600q | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (12h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (51h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (51h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (51h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (12h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (12h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [09:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 321.26mn total bids --- | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i know where to get it, and will, that was the sticking point, until i can mine i can't reall trade | [12:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | speaking of, hey Mocky , are we making the mining bot this week ? | [12:39] |
| Mocky: | yes, will be working on that. I've been thinking about the qual mixing algo. I seems like I should fix the container finding unreliability first, however. Do you agree with that? | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | not really, seeing how that only hurts crafting and ye olde unpublished bot does that fine. | [12:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | what we really need, and it's come to actual need, is a mining bot that works well. | [12:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol check out fox spamming the tops :D | [12:45] |
| Mocky: | i mean with mining. sometimes after looting the claim, the transfer to table still fails and you get stuck overweight. and sometimes selecting the right claim fails as well | [12:48] |
| Mocky: | also: http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-20.log.html#t22:24:04 | [12:50] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-20 22:24:04: <mircea_popescu> Mocky now it;'s trying to use lbn to build a small ?! | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky absolutely. | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically we gotta iron out everything that gets in the way of multi-thousand claim runs | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | because that's about where it becomes usable for the purpose. | [12:51] |
| Mocky: | alright, i think we're on the same page | [12:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am pretty convinced the problem with the "uses lbn to read small" is that the "load recipe" failed for w/e reason, and the variable contained the previous recipe. needs an init. | [12:53] |
| Mocky: | ok | [12:54] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-25.log.html#t08:08:35 << bug? Ah because it didn't list Auction 249 in the list before it ended? | [12:55] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-25 08:08:35: <mircea_popescu> lobbes lol did we find a bug in your bot ? | [12:55] |
| lobbes: | Reason for this is thus: When the "list auctions" function is called, the bot gets a list of all auctions where the expiration date/time > current date/Time. In this instance I think Auction 249 was 'expired' but not yet 'resolved' (this is a separate function called every minute), so it didn't show up in the auction list. | [12:55] |
| lobbes: | likewise, if someone had tried to bid on 249 in that ~40 second interval from when it "tr00ly expired" to when it was "announced as resolved" they would have encountered a "you cannot bid on this auction - it is expired" error | [12:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes because the auction list did not sum up to the total value printed. | [12:56] |
| lobbes: | oh damn, you're right. Shit this is a bug. It summed the 249 in the auction list even though it was expired. | [12:58] |
| lobbes: | aite, I'ma add this bug fix to the hopper | [12:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | np. | [12:58] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 244 has ENDED: 8 ETD 109600q SOLD to mircea_popescu for 2.6mn coppers. Attn: diana_coman | [13:01] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (8h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (47h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (47h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (47h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (8h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (8h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [13:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 318.66mn total bids --- | [13:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ooook; meanwhile I'm trying to figure it out from the crafting side and so far it's interesting to say the least | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha ? you gonna be selling that gt ? | [13:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | gst* | [13:14] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, trade for etd | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | I guess I'll sell gst, sure | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | what did it even go for, lol | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman yea ? | [13:18] |
| diana_coman: | gah, need to bank for change | [13:19] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, now | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | tyvm | [13:20] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [13:20] |
| diana_coman: | o.O managed to waste some tinkering exp while making ppb, wtf | [13:20] |
| diana_coman: | at this huge rank too | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/ << it also didn't even go in the list ; or did you do these manually ? | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman wasn't it while making gst ? | [13:21] |
| diana_coman: | no, it was more recent and I had left it on a ppb run | [13:21] |
| diana_coman: | I did not imagine it can rank up 2 levels | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other lulz : http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-18.log.html#t21:39:48 ie 16.4mn is not http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/auction.php?AuctionId=221 ie 16.39999mn lobbes !!!1 | [13:23] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-18 21:39:48: <mircea_popescu> hanbot we settle this in a few hours if that's ok | [13:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | check out that java! | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | but hm, prolly time to automate that lobbes if you are still getting them over manually | [13:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe not yet ; a) we're still getting them in manually aren't we b) we're still finding bugs. | [13:24] |
| diana_coman: | so no gst sold? hm | [13:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | apparently though i find it somewhat unlikely. | [13:24] |
| diana_coman: | prolly slipped through the cracks? those of gt/gst maybe | [13:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.biz/search/?q=grubsilk << i think just bps were ever sold actually. | [13:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | i know i never sold any ;' and i think you never made any before maybe cuz sold me the bps ? | [13:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | and danielpbarron never sells anything | [13:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | yo danielpbarron ! sell me some things! got wpl ? dcs ? sg ? anything ? | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | ahh, that must be it, yeah | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | ha, you even popped 13mn on them!! | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | well, and 20 and so on; lmao | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | q is ofc wtf does gin go for ?? | [13:27] |
| diana_coman: | since gin goes into gst... | [13:27] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [13:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, i can't make it atm, bps too high q | [13:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | also need more sr to make ibs... | [13:28] |
| diana_coman: | it's ibs and ltf and then one gumbo for acg even ignoring for the moment no bps and THEN one mcguyver; in all this swarming grubs and doifoi | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | actually is quite similar to woa process, isn't it? | [13:30] |
| diana_coman: | that one has cc instead of ltf, same diff | [13:30] |
| diana_coman: | and mcguyver first, gumbo later, while this one is opposite | [13:30] |
| diana_coman: | right | [13:31] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 2.5*230*1.18*16393 | [13:31] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 11122650.5 | [13:31] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 11m 48 230 GST q118 | [13:32] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 250 STARTED by diana_coman: 230 GST q118 Opening: 11m coppers Ending: 2018-06-27 17:32:40 UTC (48 hours) | [13:32] |
| diana_coman: | will finish this ppb run and then I can tell also if it makes more sense to sell the sb at 120\% or the ppb directly | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | at least ppb is just one tinkering round , nothing fancy | [13:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | problem is i can't put q 230 gst in my book bps ;/ | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | q118 | [13:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | you notice the woa was 2k and 1k ? | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | it's 230 of them | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | thewre's a fucking difference ytou know! | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | was this woa made now? | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | the 1k, yes. | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | (ie, most of it( | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's why i even sold it, since i can make. | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | there is, yes; but it won't help anyway since it's q you don't need | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i'm gonna put high ss in the bundle. | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, mkight not be able to get gst as high as that ss, and it's not the end of the world, either, since im eg living with low q teeth | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i'd like it to be at least... well you know, something. | [13:38] |
| diana_coman: | but fine with me, what | [13:38] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [13:38] |
| diana_coman: | you asked if I sell it, I offered it; | [13:38] |
| diana_coman: | it is what it is | [13:38] |
| diana_coman: | you say it's too low q, fine | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was just commenting on the "quite similar to woa process, isn't it?" bit | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | it still is what it is | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | ah | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | similar it may be ; but the q's are wide apart. | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | so maybe not so similar | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | the process is similar though; and as long as we don't have a clear function to link them it's iffy | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | not that clear | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | !QCancel 250 | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's see this here. | [13:40] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuctionCancel 250 | [13:40] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 250 was cancelled by diana_coman | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | so : 1. GST ( 16393) takes 2x gin (cooking, 7254) + 2sg (mining, 366). the gin takes 1tlf (mining, 1096) 1 ltf (tink, 4070). so this means the 16393 is 14508 cooking (88.5\%) + 16280 tink (99.3\%) + 1828 high mining (11.1\%) | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2. WoA (12255) takes 1ss (mining, 1165) + qf (mcguyv, 6624) + ppb (tink, 4466). the qf takes 4 ibs + 2 cc, ie 4*255 2*3780=8580 (129.5\% so there's built in q stair here (hey, is it me or are we basically playing stairs and holes or w/e it's called ?) | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | so in the end it's 6624 mcguyv (54.0\%) + 13046 tink (106.4\%) + 1165 high mining (9.5\%) | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | am i right ? | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | this'd then grade the gst process as both harder and more expensive than the woa process, because a) signifnicantly higher skilled crafting involvement ; b) disfavourable stair disposition ; c) slightly higher high mining contents. in that order. | [13:53] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-25.log.html#t17:23:00 << oy. Rounding error somewhere in the phpolade looks like. I'm a dig into some of this stuff tonight methinks | [13:56] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-25 17:23:00: <mircea_popescu> in other lulz : http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-18.log.html#t21:39:48 ie 16.4mn is not http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/auction.php?AuctionId=221 ie 16.39999mn lobbes !!!1 | [13:56] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (7h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (46h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (46h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (46h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (7h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (7h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [14:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 318.66mn total bids --- | [14:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, uhm, gst is 14508 cooking yes, but it's 2*4070 (ltf)=8140 tink and 2*366+2*1096=2924 high q mining | [14:21] |
| diana_coman: | why 4 bottles? | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | 4 ibs ? | [14:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | but you're right, the thing i put in isn't entirely correct. let's restate. | [14:22] |
| diana_coman: | it's 12 ibs per bottle if you go that way | [14:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | 4ibs go into qf. | [14:22] |
| diana_coman: | I'm talking of gst! | [14:22] |
| diana_coman: | no qf there, ltf | [14:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | 4 bottles - 2 to make the bottles, and 2 to make the bottle ingredients (same value) | [14:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | everything in ltf is think : dg, ibs, cft | [14:23] |
| diana_coman: | ah, that makes sense; i.e. 2 rounds of tinkering on that value, yes | [14:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1. GST ( 16393) takes 2x gin (cooking, 7254) + 2sg (mining, 366). the gin takes 1tlf (mining, 1096) 1 ltf (tink, 4070). so this means the 16393 is 14508 cooking (88.5\%) + 20350 tink (124.1\%) + 2924 high mining (17.8\%) | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | right now ? | [14:24] |
| diana_coman: | tlc* but otherwise yes | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | final statement : | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1. GST ( 16393) takes 2x gin (cooking, 7254) + 2sg (mining, 366). the gin takes 1tlf (mining, 1096) 1 tlc (tink, 4070). so this means GST is 16393 mcguyver (100\%) + 14508 cooking (88.5\%) + 20350 tink (124.1\%) + 2924 high mining (17.8\%) | [14:25] |
| diana_coman: | lmao, the other way around | [14:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | hahaha | [14:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1. GST ( 16393) takes 2x gin (cooking, 7254) + 2sg (mining, 366). the gin takes 1tlc (mining, 1096) 1 ltf (tink, 4070). so this means GST is 16393 mcguyver (100\%) + 14508 cooking (88.5\%) + 20350 tink (124.1\%) + 2924 high mining (17.8\%) | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | this shit's sticky as all hell to get right, took me forever to even come up with the first draft | [14:27] |
| diana_coman: | yeee; I was slowly doing the woa too and that one seems right | [14:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | alrighty. so basically the conclusion stands, as it was. let's say it again | [14:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2. WoA (12255) takes 1ss (mining, 1165) + qf (mcguyv, 6624) + ppb (tink, 4466). the qf takes 4 ibs + 2 cc, ie 4*255 2*3780=8580 (129.5\%). so it's 12255 (100\%) cooking + 6624 mcguyv (54.0\%) + 13046 tink (106.4\%) + 1165 high mining (9.5\%) | [14:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | o fuck that's not right. | [14:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2cc = 6x 3780. bct and cft. | [14:31] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, right | [14:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in fairness, the mcguyv is not 6624 but the 8580 value. because you won't underclick, truth be told. | [14:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2. WoA (12255) takes 1ss (mining, 1165) + qf (mcguyv, 6624) + ppb (tink, 4466). the qf takes 4 ibs + 2 cc, ie 4*255 + 6*3780=23700 (193.3\%). so it's 12255 (100\%) cooking + 8580* mcguyv (70.0\%) + 28166 tink (229.8\%) + 1165 high mining (9.5\%) | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | uhh im sorry | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2. WoA (12255) takes 1ss (mining, 1165) + qf (mcguyv, 8580*) + ppb (tink, 4466). the qf takes 4 ibs + 2 cc, ie 4*255 + 6*3780=23700 (193.3\%). so it's 12255 (100\%) cooking + 8580* mcguyv (70.0\%) + 28166 tink (229.8\%) + 1165 high mining (9.5\%) | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | so it's 100\% vs 88.5 cooking or 70\% vs 100\% mcguyver ; 106 vs 230\% tink and 17.8 vs 9.5 \% mining. | [14:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | they are pretty close after all. | [14:36] |
| diana_coman: | the tinkering part is arguably most apart | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | you could even make the prediction, based on this theoretical research work, that in a situation of relative abundance of basics (ie, tink) over other items, it'll be woa that outsupplies gst in the marketplace, by a significant margin | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | then turn around and notice this is a prediction about the past. | [14:36] |
| diana_coman: | heh | [14:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know ? | [14:37] |
| diana_coman: | and btw that woa you made "now" - was it with high q leather? | [14:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ppb | [14:39] |
| diana_coman: | well then, not exactly now, no | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | not so hard to make high q ppb / high q qf, if one sets self to it. | [14:39] |
| diana_coman: | there's no thousands of wpl q 2000 anywhere in sight | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | just needs mats. | [14:39] |
| diana_coman: | lololol | [14:39] |
| diana_coman: | that IS the current "hard" , what are you talking about | [14:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/auction.php?AuctionId=215 | [14:40] |
| diana_coman: | yes, what she found FROM BEFORE | [14:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | well in that sense, everything will be from before | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | unless altar makes it cheap and so on | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | we're not mining so much, at least i am not | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | afail altar uses leather. | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | afaik* | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | I did mine if not as much as I'd like too, still some; and yes, I do get SOME high q, even higher than that but no, not in the thousands | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yes, the reason i say, come to where must mine, is because without significant mined inputs, there's no way to remove this "was from before" argument. | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | so no, atm I wouldn't say you can actually make more of that woa, no | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | well not right this moment, that's for sure | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | tbh i even said as much then | [14:42] |
| diana_coman: | yes, you did; hence my surprise now when you said oh, but I can make more | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... i ~could~, in theory. | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | since bought bps | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | and looted qf bps. | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | in theory almost all is possible | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, i guess im used to this whole "oh, bps are the limiting factor" thing that was going on for a while before | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | there are tons of qf bps looted, not the problem at all | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | myeah + used to abundance of harvestables > 200q | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess so. | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose you're right, needs some adjustement | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | epsecially the fact that large claims seem to yield low q | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw, since i notice you're clicking cons... don't you want me to package them for you ? | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | I kind of stopped clicking even but don't know if it would make a bit difference really; perhaps higher bouq I guess? | [14:46] |
| diana_coman: | next time I plan clicking them I'll show you the bp to check I suppose | [14:46] |
| diana_coman: | kind of swamped in bps, hence ...crafting | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | and I don't know re quality drain : at least on ppb I use sb q113 and I get ppb q 129 | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | well for eg the tink numina you bought ? | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | not a big up but at least it's...up | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | you make sentiments with them right ? | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | that 113->129 is a HUGE thing imo. well done. | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think a lot of the work inthe future will be working together to lever up q as much as possible. | [14:48] |
| diana_coman: | well, it works on mining for sure; not only for q but also for getting more out of claims really | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | arguably one would want different q bundles for different sorts of harvestables | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | but I guess that's next in line on Mocky's list or something | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | :P | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you telling me i could sell say wlp small bundles ? | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | why? | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | or tiny ? | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | do you make them high or what? | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | I don't follow | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | it works on mining for sure < | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | I meant a more generic "working together" | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. different characters with different skills | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, let's see: mircea_popescu how many sb do you bundle for ppb anyway? | [14:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh, like i could buy your wpl bundles ? | [14:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is quite a thought. let me see here | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | I think it's more likely to be useful that way, yes | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing the most obvious thing is that foxy can make higher q bundles even with lower q cft because she just packs more of i | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | of i | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | of it goddamn | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | and anyway, for higher q cft even more useful actually | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | smalls : basic : 6/22 ; mining 2/10 ; lumb 3/12 ; groceries 1/5 | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | to give some idea: noob with own bundle gets q 4 or such shit; with foxy's bundle he gets q ~190-290 depending on resource | [14:56] |
| diana_coman: | well, sort-of-noob | [14:56] |
| diana_coman: | lemme see for comparison then | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | tinies : basic 14/20 ; mining 6/9 ; lumb 7/11 ; groceries 2/4. | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman the question is, how much do the bundles weigh, tiny and small ? can you also check that ? | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | they are light | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | thank goodness | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | smalls at least | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | (my noobs don't get tinies at all ) | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | they carry about 500 of each no problem | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes but specifically ? so we can compare with the ingredient mass. | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | 0.45 cdg bundle | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | small ? | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | q6755 , small yes | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, no, that's 30 of them lmao | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | 0.015 only each | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | tlc q3000 same | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | might be a glitch | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | cft is 0.031 ; lbn is 0.015 each | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | so basically : small bundle is HALF the weight of ONE cft ? | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | apparently, hence my above - maybe glitch | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | way ~way~ the fuck better to carry bundles mining than ingredients then ? | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | yesssss | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | tradeshow it to me ? | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope, 0.015 | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | they are all the same | [15:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | o man. this is epic | [15:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright, so... tell me how much you pack, like the above. | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | smalls foxy: basics 9-33; mining 3-13; lj 3-11; 3-12 | [15:02] |
| diana_coman: | that 7-11 of yours on lj - is that correct? | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | ah, you went high with lj with that initial glitch, right | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | tiny eps, 7-11 lbn it says. | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | prolly correct then ; interesting at any rate: your high ranking on lj manages to catch up at the higher part | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | ah | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | nm me, I read the tinies line thinking it was smalls, lol | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | k | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | smalls foxy: basics 9-33; mining 3-13; lj 3-11; groceries 3-12 | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | to state it properly | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | and tiny ? | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | let me see | [15:05] |
| diana_coman: | tinies foxy: basics 21-30; mining 8-12; lj 7-10; groceries 7-11 | [15:06] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (6h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (45h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (45h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (45h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (6h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (6h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [15:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 318.66mn total bids --- | [15:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you murder me everywhere, except i got the edge on lj and sorta-close in mining. | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect you are waaaay ahead on lj rank-wise | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | so yes, unsurprising | [15:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | would you package wpl for me ? | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | and mining is funny: I get higher q than in groceries at same rank | [15:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit, i don't even ~have~ the farming skill | [15:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | how did that work ? | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | I can do it, sure; just do mind that it *does* eat up time | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | hm? how did what work? | [15:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman what'd you charge ? to package my own lbn into tiny wpl ? | [15:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | how does one get farming skill lol | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | scratches head | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | re bundles tell you what: I'll package 1000 for free and then you see how it goes and let me know | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | it won't take a day or anything of the sort | [15:13] |
| diana_coman: | pats bot on the head | [15:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is a deal. | [15:13] |
| diana_coman: | re farming I think it was the scones | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | so 11k lbn you need from me ? | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | or no, those were lj | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman do you have scones ? hm | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | warren buffet's almanac | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | that's what it was | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | it wasn't greyhawk pale microbrew was it ? | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | was it minigoat ? | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | no, lol | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | wtf | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i been playing for years don't even have all the skills, what is this! | [15:15] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh almanac ? hm. do you have it ? | [15:15] |
| diana_coman: | hammer was for mining and it's this one I have even; scones for lj iirc; almanac for farming; | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | sadly not, no | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | I have only some hammers | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | either hanbot or danielpbarron | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman trading you for lbn | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot got almanac ? danielpbarron ? | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | yes, go ahead | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 11000 * 11 * 91.80 | [15:17] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 11107800 | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | tiny wpl, right? | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | please. | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | k, will start | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | it'll be some half hour I guess | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah that's not too terrible\ | [15:23] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, and bot got jammed at 590 | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, apparently I underestimated it, more like 50 minutes but will have to restart for the rest | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | kinda the advantage of actually trying, find out such surprises. | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | I did loads of bundles before but never bothered to time it - just left it over night or something | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | seeing how I can't leave it explore.. | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | it got jammed on the ghost item shit | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | nothing new there | [15:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [15:52] |
| hanbot: | !Qauction 50m 48 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [15:53] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 251 STARTED by hanbot: 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 Opening: 50m coppers Ending: 2018-06-27 19:53:58 UTC (48 hours) | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | heh, not bad, hanbot | [15:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | god damn it, seriously ? | [15:54] |
| hanbot: | sold for 8m in 2016 eh. discount! | [15:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | jaysus. | [15:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | btc wasn't 10k in 2016!1111!! | [15:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | i shoulda fucking bought it then | [15:55] |
| hanbot: | shoulda bought all the things before they were things, even! obviously. | [15:55] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (5h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (44h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (44h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (44h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (5h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (5h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=No bids E=06-27 19:53:58 (47h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [16:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 318.66mn total bids --- | [16:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | what can you do, gotta pay teh piper. | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 251 50mn | [16:11] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 251: 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 Heard: 50mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-06-27 19:53:58 UTC (47 hours 42 mins) | [16:11] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, done | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | how's it look ? | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | trade, lol | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | nothing unexpected really; good for quantity, not so great for quality | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | of outputs I mean, not of bundle, that is great for quality | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | there | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | gl | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | these are 15 weght together, holly hell. | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so what'd be fair compensation for this run ? cuz i'd really like to buy lots more. | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | this manages to be even more puzzling than the rest to price because it's literally pricing time+skill sort of | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | value doesn't really matter even | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | although for your benefit it IS value that matters | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | if I were to just sell bundles, I suppose some percentage would apply, nothing huge but still quality-related | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | but I don't think that makes sense when using your input | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | if at least there was some xp to be gained from bundling, ha | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, come to think of it, the only way in which I can see it making at least some sense for me to sit foxy up there bundling would probably be some 2\% of bundles sort of thing; still scratching head here | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | shouldn't it be a fixed cost per bundle ? | [16:46] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing: how do I fix it? | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | how the hell do I evaluate foxy's time exactly | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [16:51] |
| diana_coman: | and for the other the margin/money to be made is kind of so low that it's unclear it's worth it | [16:51] |
| diana_coman: | or what, I charge now 10k per bundle or some shit? | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i mean, it makes no diff to you what it mixes. i don't get a discount for mixing low q items right | [16:51] |
| diana_coman: | that's what I was saying initially that it's even harder to price than anything else | [16:51] |
| diana_coman: | it doesn't make a difference for me what she mixes; onth it *also* really wastes her time as it were, not even xp, nothing | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | with \% of bundles i.e for every 100 bundles she keeps 2, you pay differently, true; she gets something she can at least use | [16:53] |
| diana_coman: | or don't know, 10 ecu per bundle works out as some 10k per hour, still not that bad from some perspective I guess | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, does ^ sound better? | [16:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i'd owe 10k for the run you just did ? | [16:55] |
| diana_coman: | with the catch that it won't be on the spot as this one was | [16:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wouldn't mind paying 25k tbh. | [16:55] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | so how about i give you a pile more to mix for me ? cuz i also want pss and f. | [16:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | and b i guess. | [16:56] |
| diana_coman: | ok then, let's see how this goes; I'll run them between the cracks as it were | [16:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright, trade me for lbn! | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, mind giving them to cor for now? she's in a run atm | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | says u busy at any rate | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, this gets complicated, lol | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | which q for which res? | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ^ | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | np | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | the high one for pss please. | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | fuck me i did this wrong didn't i! | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman plox trade me back, i gave you the wrong counts ;/. | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | sorry for all the hassle. i'm new o.O | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty ima give you 2 30s and a 12k will be obvious then | [17:06] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (4h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (43h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (43h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (43h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (4h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (4h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (46h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [17:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 368.66mn total bids --- | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman trade nao | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok so the 12k pss, the 60k f and b 1k each | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | right, makes sense | [17:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty. | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | how to get rid of 100k lbn in one fell swoop | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | heh, they come back neatly packed | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | for that matter I think I even still had some "bundled bits of nothing" | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | haha | [17:40] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (3h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (42h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (42h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (42h47) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (3h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (3h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (45h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 368.66mn total bids --- | [18:07] |
| esthlos: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-25.log.html#t03:31:08 << trying to organize time to play! | [19:47] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-06-25 03:31:08: <mircea_popescu> esthlos getting anywhere ? | [19:47] |
| lobbesbot: | A#245 O=295mn HB=295mn E=06-26 01:58:46 (1h51) >>> 4726 SS q3572 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (40h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (40h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (40h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#242 O=1.9mn HB=1.9mn E=06-26 01:41:16 (1h33) >>> 496 BCT bps q913 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#243 O=11.4mn HB=11.4mn E=06-26 01:42:16 (1h34) >>> 303 DUH bps q670 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (43h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 368.66mn total bids --- | [20:07] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 242 has ENDED: 496 BCT bps q913 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 1.9mn coppers. Attn: hanbot | [21:41] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 243 has ENDED: 303 DUH bps q670 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 11.4mn coppers. Attn: hanbot | [21:42] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 245 has ENDED: 4726 SS q3572 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 295mn coppers. Attn: hanbot | [21:59] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (38h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [22:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (38h48) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [22:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (38h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [22:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (41h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [22:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 60.36mn total bids --- | [22:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot at your leisure | [22:56] |
| lobbesbot: | A#246 O=3.6mn HB=4mn E=06-27 16:46:20 (37h38) >>> 58 ISA q41817 | [23:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#248 O=36mn HB=No bids E=06-27 16:55:30 (37h47) >>> 7873 ADF q304 | [23:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#247 O=6.36mn HB=6.36mn E=06-27 16:54:27 (37h46) >>> 182004 BMN q304 | [23:07] |
| lobbesbot: | A#251 O=50mn HB=50mn E=06-27 19:53:58 (40h46) >>> 1 BA (Buffett's Almanac) q510 | [23:07] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 60.36mn total bids --- | [23:07] |
| lobbesbot: | Post from mocky: Ashby Gap Seriously Soaked, Dicks Dome, Confederate Ghost <http://mocky.org/Ashby-Gap-Seriously-Soaked-Dicks-Dome-Confederate-Ghost/> | [23:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky ok that's a good title. | [23:42] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu gettin' it all out nao | [23:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool. | [23:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 1.9 + 11.4+295 | [23:47] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 308.3 | [23:47] |
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