#eulora Logs for 22 May 2018



May 22nd, 2018 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: morning [02:19]
mircea_popescu: heya. [02:22]
diana_coman: oh hi mircea_popescu ; wpl is on the block [02:46]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (31h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [03:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [03:08]
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 152 * 3.6 * .67 [04:26]
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 366.624 [04:26]
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 152 * 16267 * .67 [04:26]
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 1656631.28 [04:26]
mircea_popescu: 200\% srsly ? [04:29]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, not so sure what's going on here, my own shop shows it 125/155. though apparently i paid you 300\% for the last batch ? [04:30]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (29h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [05:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [05:08]
diana_coman: my shop says basics 195\%; I would sell craftables at 125\% but certainly not resources, esp not q>10, esp not non-basics etc [05:15]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, and yes, I think your shop is rather outdated but I don't recall last time you updated it or what [05:15]
mircea_popescu: says 2016. the stuff in auction report is from 2017 -- though wasn't this before cft was available ? [05:16]
diana_coman: anyways, what can I say, that's what I can sell wpl atm for; if nobody takes it, fine with me, I'll make it into stuff and sell that at lower \% because atm this is how it is, harvestables are more difficult to get high q now [05:16]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i spent so long making cc... [05:17]
mircea_popescu: kinda out of the loop by now. [05:17]
diana_coman: yes, I was digging through all sorts yest to figure out some price at all tbh [05:17]
diana_coman: trouble with harvestables goes beyond cft really [05:17]
diana_coman: I mean yes, cft available is fine, means one can sell all sorts, BUT [05:17]
diana_coman: noobs don't get wpl AT ALL [05:18]
diana_coman: as in: not even with a cs (I tried, yes) [05:18]
mircea_popescu: i guess i should go out mining a spell to find out huh. [05:18]
mircea_popescu: trouble is i have all these bct/cc bps to do something with. [05:18]
diana_coman: so while basics I could conceivably sell for much lower, non-basics are very iffy because of all the hassle involved [05:18]
diana_coman: well, it can stay there, next time one asks for wpl I can point them to the failed auction: here, it was, nobody wanted it [05:19]
mircea_popescu: lobbes, http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/ << could the tabs be clickable for sorting ? [05:19]
mircea_popescu: http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/auction.php?AuctionId=142 << did this sell for 101\% ? [05:20]
diana_coman: re basics http://logs.minigame.biz/2017-07-24.log.html#t08:32:43 [05:21]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-07-24 08:32:43: <diana_coman> I was selling basics at 195\% though; that fine? [05:21]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, anyway, my idea was to make cf, but i see it's like... 133\% http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/view.php?ItemSHC=qf [05:21]
mircea_popescu: not that much sold anyway. i'm so lost... [05:21]
diana_coman: iirc danielpbarron was the ~only one with a use for qf and he was happy to make his own [05:22]
diana_coman: wpl goes into wine chain though too [05:22]
mircea_popescu: oh. hm. [05:22]
diana_coman: otherwise yes, I'd say market is a mess (if one can even call it a market as I'm not sure what to call this thing we have right now) [05:23]
mircea_popescu: i'm trying to recall ~why~ the everloving i was even making this cc. [05:23]
mircea_popescu: maybe for toolkits ? [05:23]
diana_coman: probably more "because loads of bct and nothing to do" but otherwise yes [05:24]
mircea_popescu: hm [05:24]
mircea_popescu: well, let's see, is there anything you want ? [05:25]
diana_coman: cs as long as they are not at some 400\% or crazy stuff like that [05:25]
mircea_popescu: alright. anything else ? [05:25]
mircea_popescu: apparently i bought a lot of lft and ibs from you this year. i was making maybe io ? or wtf. [05:27]
diana_coman: well, low q cons would be something I REALLY want, lol [05:27]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.biz/2017-12-15.log.html#t14:09:23 [05:27]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-12-15 14:09:23: <lobbesbot> AUCTION # 165 has ENDED: 512 CS d 20239 SOLD to diana_coman for 20mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu [05:27]
diana_coman: yes, eaten long time ago [05:28]
mircea_popescu: http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/view.php?ItemSHC=cs << check out the price, 207\% 178\% 414\% 198\% [05:28]
diana_coman: basically fox either mines with a cs or fucks herself royally [05:28]
mircea_popescu: of course the 400 were actually huge q, so there is some logic here [05:28]
diana_coman: yes [05:28]
diana_coman: but I need cs for mining now so I'd rather have them usual q, no bother [05:29]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.biz/2017-10-21.log.html#t22:39:48 << o wow check this out too [05:29]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-10-21 22:39:48: <lobbesbot> AUCTION # 153 has ENDED: 662 Grubsilk Thread Process (bp) q133 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 14.75mn coppers. Attn: diana_coman [05:29]
mircea_popescu: maybe i was making gin... [05:29]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, is there something you wanted ? [05:31]
diana_coman: I actually have loads of gin I can't even recall whatever for [05:32]
diana_coman: ufh [05:32]
diana_coman: oh, it goes into grubsilk thread, hm [05:33]
diana_coman: prolly still on the line with tomes and clicking conses except that line is stuck atm because no low q conses to be able to click, ugh [05:33]
mircea_popescu: hm... so should i make btoolkits ? [05:34]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'd buy some basic tools [05:35]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, so is the cons process where we're stuck ? [05:35]
mircea_popescu: ah ok, lessee what i got here [05:35]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, turns out i have everything needed to make cs, should i do that then ? [05:35]
diana_coman: I dunno about the others but from where I'm standing I'd say yes, atm that's the main bottleneck (not least because we're living now on old bps but presumably stocks will finish at some point) [05:35]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, what markup would you want for them? [05:36]
mircea_popescu: i got q290 neo tink cons, how low q is low ? [05:36]
diana_coman: preferably <50q; I have those huge q bundles, they take ...months [05:37]
mircea_popescu: ah. [05:37]
diana_coman: I don't even know otherwise what's with the sacrifice line whether anyone is doing anything there, any chance of anything new coming out of it or what [05:38]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, you know me, i go by inputs. what'd you charge me for sb, tpt and pss ? [05:38]
diana_coman: I have a feeling that's how it ended last time in calculating that it's cheaper to make them [05:40]
mircea_popescu: hm. well, you don't wanna calc it ? [05:41]
diana_coman: anyways, to get this unstuck atm without further calcs it would stand at 190\% sb and 200\% tpt+pss [05:41]
diana_coman: there's the great unknown time + bps [05:41]
diana_coman: i.e. I can go mine or I can craft, not both at same time [05:41]
mircea_popescu: ok, let me do a click and see what comes out k [05:43]
diana_coman: k [05:44]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ok, it's on. nfi how long it takes though, pretty high society click. [05:51]
diana_coman: lol; did you recover tink rank 1st meanwhile ? [05:52]
mircea_popescu: i dun even know. [05:55]
mircea_popescu: i certainly ground a lot of threads. [05:55]
diana_coman: I made a ton of cc mainly because bot made them itself without any input, kind of ideal when busy otherwise [05:57]
mircea_popescu: anyway, get back to you re cs pricing in 2-3 days once this click finishes. [05:58]
diana_coman: lol, k [05:58]
mircea_popescu: what can i do lol. need some basis. [05:59]
mircea_popescu: noa, eu ma duc la somnic. spor. [06:00]
diana_coman: somn usor [06:00]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (28h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [06:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [06:08]
Mocky: is 'cs' a Chetty's Divining Stick? [10:58]
Mocky: diana_coman, I have 200k rr q 1 to sell you if want some quantity of that still. I'm interested in buying a gathering book from you, if I can afford [11:01]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (23h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [11:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [11:08]
diana_coman: Mocky> is 'cs' a Chetty's Divining Stick? <- yes [12:42]
diana_coman: I'll buy the rr as promised, sure; a skill book is 100k; [12:42]
diana_coman: I'll be around a bit more in ~2 hours [12:43]
Mocky: nods [12:43]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (21h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [13:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [13:08]
danielpbarron: i've been out of the loop quite a bit as well, not sure what i'm in the market for either [14:04]
danielpbarron: but i agree low quality considerations would be nice [14:05]
danielpbarron: as for sacrifice, i'd need supplications [14:05]
danielpbarron: i have use for leather but if i recall correctly i still have an enormous supply of my own [14:07]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (20h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [14:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [14:08]
diana_coman: I don't even recall: how were supplications obtained ? [14:35]
diana_coman: Mocky, trade foxy whenever convenient (and ping here if she doesn't answer) [14:35]
Mocky: started trade [14:37]
Mocky: diana_coman, ok that [14:41]
Mocky: s 200,000 q 1 rr [14:41]
diana_coman: Mocky, what was I paying for this? [14:41]
Mocky: 1.3 x base [14:42]
diana_coman: !~calc 200000*0.01*67*1.3 [14:42]
diana_coman: !Qcalc 200000*0.01*67*1.3 [14:43]
lobbesbot: diana_coman: 174200 [14:43]
diana_coman: there we go, thank you [14:43]
Mocky: oh yeah, can i buy a gathering book from you? [14:43]
diana_coman: sure [14:43]
diana_coman: enjoy! [14:44]
Mocky: ok thanks! [14:45]
diana_coman: o.O one of my remarks is gone :( [15:05]
diana_coman: I suppose the next will follow since I just can't build them :( [15:06]
danielpbarron: :< [15:08]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (19h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [15:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [15:08]
danielpbarron: i think supps come from bouq cons [15:08]
diana_coman: ah, the lower tier ones probably [15:11]
diana_coman: !Qcalc 7*150936/(20390*29.78+2039*8.89+3000) [15:27]
lobbesbot: diana_coman: 1.6814948433 [15:27]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (18h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [16:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [16:08]
lobbesbot: Post from danielpbarron: I would certainly not like to be a bit of your plankton. <http://danielpbarron.com/2018/i-would-certainly-not-like-to-be-a-bit-of-your-plankton/> [18:45]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, wd ! [20:51]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, supplications take wine and altar clicks [20:52]
mircea_popescu: hanbot, danielpbarron you stuck on wine ? [20:52]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (13h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [21:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [21:08]
lobbes: http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-05-22.log.html#t09:19:34 << added to hopper (I was thinking of adding this myself, so this just confirms that it is worth the effort to change) [23:07]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-05-22 09:19:34: <mircea_popescu> lobbes, http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/ << could the tabs be clickable for sorting ? [23:07]
lobbesbot: A#170 O=3.6mn HB=No bids E=05-23 14:50:02 (11h41) >>> 16267 WPL q67 [23:08]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [23:08]
mircea_popescu: Mocky, how would you like to do a click for me btw ? [23:09]
Mocky: sure [23:11]
mircea_popescu: ok, how this works is you'll be stuck unable to move dfor days. [23:13]
mircea_popescu: we'll start once i finish this cs mega click, ill ping you. [23:14]
Mocky: ok [23:14]
Mocky: what benefit do you get from me doing the click? [23:15]
mircea_popescu: prolly thurs. [23:15]
mircea_popescu: Mocky, you're low level, should produce lower level ouputs, which is what they were saying they want [23:15]
Mocky: makes sense [23:16]
mircea_popescu: though i currently have nfi how long it would actually take you and a) this means if you lose connection it sucks and b) you can't play in the interval [23:17]

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