| diana_coman: | morning euloraplayer | [06:33] |
| diana_coman: | congrats danielpbarron on the moss pop | [06:33] |
| euloraplayer: | good morning diana_coman, mircea_popescu, danielpbarron | [07:24] |
| diana_coman: | have you got your account, euloraplayer ? | [07:31] |
| euloraplayer: | no, not yet | [07:31] |
| diana_coman: | check the log euloraplayer as mircea_popescu sent you the link | [07:32] |
| euloraplayer: | as i have understood until now... i need to decrypt the message that mircea_popescu has sent me 9 hours ago | [07:32] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [07:32] |
| diana_coman: | you'll find there a username +password | [07:32] |
| euloraplayer: | ok.. now i need to know how to decrypt.. i am thinking that maybe i may use the kleopatra program... | [07:33] |
| diana_coman: | sounds good | [07:33] |
| euloraplayer: | in my case i have chosen a passphrase with 8 words... thinking that it was 'strong' enough | [07:34] |
| diana_coman: | as long as you don't lose it... | [07:36] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [07:47] |
| euloraplayer: | it was fascinating experience...decrypting was succesfull and now i have a 'username' and a password | [07:48] |
| euloraplayer: | the problem now is that i cant login... i am receiveing the message my version of eulora is not the correct version. "Please update your client"... | [07:49] |
| euloraplayer: | how may i update the client...my version here is 0.1.0 | [07:50] |
| euloraplayer: | ? | [07:50] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, where did you download the wrong version from? | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, you need 0.1.2 | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | the wiki points to the right page as far as I can see: http://www.eulorum.org/Windows | [08:10] |
| euloraplayer: | well | [08:11] |
| euloraplayer: | i think was here: http://minigame.bz/jurov/ (in the second link) | [08:11] |
| euloraplayer: | in the page you have indicated , in the 5th paragraph, there is the following phrase "Binary packages are maintained by jurov aka Grundin Goldskull, available with instructions on his page on minigame.bz" | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, first links there are the up to date version and then for the rest it says...OLD VERSIONS... | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | yep, just download the 0.1.2, not the old versions, lol | [08:13] |
| euloraplayer: | well done | [08:24] |
| euloraplayer: | version 0.1.2 is running | [08:25] |
| euloraplayer: | my problem now is another... | [08:25] |
| euloraplayer: | how to give to my character a appearance apropriated to medieval age? the arrows to change face, hair, beard and others seems to be not working... | [08:26] |
| euloraplayer: | i means thay not change these physical atributes... | [08:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, euloraplayer the models aren't yet very developed | [08:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | once more customizable models are available everyone will get a chance to alter theirs. but for now you just get the same blue shirted guy | [08:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | holy shit gratz danielpbarron | [08:30] |
| euloraplayer: | :) | [08:39] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [08:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | how's rio ? | [08:41] |
| euloraplayer: | hot | [08:47] |
| euloraplayer: | ok...character created..i may say that at least sometimes i really love this game | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey. welcome. | [08:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you find me in town ima give you some things. | [08:52] |
| euloraplayer: | :) | [08:58] |
| euloraplayer: | may i ask a question about the gameplay? | [09:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [09:14] |
| euloraplayer: | If i mine with my bare hands, my health will decay. Will it to recover after some time (possibly a time of rest) or will it decay permanently? | [09:43] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, death is not permanent yet | [09:44] |
| diana_coman: | so you can basically kill your character with /die and then it will come back after a bit with full stats | [09:44] |
| euloraplayer: | controversial subject | [09:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | you die, then you come back. so far this works | [09:45] |
| euloraplayer: | oh..ok | [09:45] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's controversial about it ? | [09:45] |
| euloraplayer: | if the death is permanent...this is controversial.... | [09:45] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, there's also a bot that you can set up and it will basically explore on its own (including killing itself when needed etc) | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, death ~will be~ permanent. currently that part not implemented. still a ways to go with other supporting things, npcs, marriage etc. | [09:46] |
| euloraplayer: | hum... | [09:46] |
| euloraplayer: | by the way... waht means "npcs"? | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | non-player character, euloraplayer | [09:48] |
| diana_coman: | basically game's own characters | [09:49] |
| euloraplayer: | oh...ok | [10:04] |
| euloraplayer: | immensity | [10:05] |
| euloraplayer: | well... there is anyway to stop the bot of exploring? | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | yes: /bot reset | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | also in general if you really want to cancel some ongoing action you can use /unstick | [10:45] |
| euloraplayer: | yes diana_coman | [10:47] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks for your help | [10:47] |
| euloraplayer: | i have been received the message "explore not finished and not yet timedout, will wait".... what it means? | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, the bot expects some messages that are sent when an /explore finishes; it did not get them and so it will wait some longer; however, in order to avoid being stuck for ages, it waits for a limited amount of time (timeout) : when that time has passed it will NOT wait anymore even if it did not receive the end messages | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | did you manage to actually finish at least one explore? did you find anything? | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | also: did you get the items Mircea offered? they will likely help | [10:53] |
| euloraplayer: | yes.. i have found a lot of keys and some Boulders [Enumerations] | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | he offered to GIVE you some items | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | go to those houses there and trade his character | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | keys will eventually transform into little bits of nothing that are then useful to build claims | [10:54] |
| euloraplayer: | no....i did not get the item that mircea was offered..but i wouldlike to get.... what should i do to receive them from him? | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | the enumerations are blueprints for building claims too | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | see my previous line, lol | [10:55] |
| euloraplayer: | ufff | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | <diana_coman> go to those houses there and trade his character | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | probably ping him in here too when you are ready to trade his character | [10:55] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..calm down please | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | lol! | [10:56] |
| euloraplayer: | lets go a little slowly | [10:56] |
| euloraplayer: | what houses are you saying? | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | take your time | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | I'm sure you'll find them | [10:56] |
| euloraplayer: | :) | [11:03] |
| euloraplayer: | ok...then please..how may i start to walk in the terrain? | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | wasd or the arrow keys no ? | [11:06] |
| euloraplayer: | hum | [11:07] |
| euloraplayer: | yes | [11:07] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks | [11:07] |
| euloraplayer: | now there are houses in some place that i can find? | [11:07] |
| euloraplayer: | what are these black 'rocks' on the ground? | [11:08] |
| euloraplayer: | the glow burns me..... | [11:11] |
| euloraplayer: | i felt down and died | [11:11] |
| euloraplayer: | can i revive imediately? | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | in a few minutes | [11:11] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..reveived already | [11:14] |
| euloraplayer: | and surprisilying walked inside the water | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, jus explore around a little | [11:14] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..please there is a way to see the terrain from a far point of view..like to see a bigger part of terrain from the high.... i am thinking that i need to go out from where i am and find the town and then the cited house | [11:15] |
| euloraplayer: | ? | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | you can adjust your camera if that's what you mean; there is a help in game, maybe read around that one | [11:19] |
| euloraplayer: | yes.. i have been reading (what does not means understanding) | [11:22] |
| euloraplayer: | but.... the camera settings are plenty... and i have no idea how to ajust to have a better view of all the terrain where i am | [11:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | try pressing M | [11:25] |
| euloraplayer: | M gave me Free Movement | [11:53] |
| euloraplayer: | not a view of the terrain | [11:53] |
| euloraplayer: | M continuosly give diferent visions | [11:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can use the mouse wheerl to scroll out | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | and hold it down (or 3rd button) and move mouse for perspective change | [11:58] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> congrats danielpbarron on the moss pop << ty ty. has anyone ever seen more than 3 million items in one pile before :D | [12:00] |
| euloraplayer: | yes | [12:01] |
| euloraplayer: | i am in a strange place ... | [12:01] |
| euloraplayer: | like a lake in a valley | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron o.O | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | you might be the first eh | [12:02] |
| euloraplayer: | yes...maybe is not a lake..but the sea | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | euloraplayer are you having fun yet ? | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | hehe i think i see you | [12:05] |
| euloraplayer: | yes..some | [12:05] |
| euloraplayer: | but I would like to receive the 'things' from you | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | so come meet me. did you find the houses ? | [12:06] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 3415726+943849+2111+40569+191532+134656 | [12:06] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 3415726+943849+2111+40569+191532+134656 = 4728443 | [12:06] |
| euloraplayer: | as i have assumed i need to find the town to find you in the town | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah | [12:06] |
| euloraplayer: | eventually in the houses.. | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | im right in front, opposite of the fire | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | can't miss me | [12:07] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 4728443*0.01*157 | [12:07] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 4728443*0.01*157 = 7423655.51 | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron wowza, got even more than the pop said ? | [12:07] |
| danielpbarron: | apparently | [12:08] |
| euloraplayer: | but i dont know where is the town...then maybe if you give me the coordinates of the town (or of where i may meet you) i may give an autopilot command and arrive there | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in other good news, it's prolly worth A LOT more. who even knows, what mats are worth | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | im at -34 44 310 euloraplayer | [12:08] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 500000*0.01*157 | [12:12] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 500000*0.01*157 = 785000 | [12:12] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qauction 785000 24 500k SM q 1 | [12:12] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41 STARTED by danielpbarron: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785000 coppers Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (24 hours) | [12:12] |
| euloraplayer: | lol | [12:12] |
| euloraplayer: | will autopilot work to arrrive there ...i will try now | [12:12] |
| danielpbarron: | comes in one pile for your transporting convenience ^^ | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 41 1m | [12:16] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Heard: 1mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (23 hours 55 mins) | [12:16] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (23 hours 53 mins) | [12:18] |
| euloraplayer: | yes | [12:21] |
| euloraplayer: | i think i have found you mircea | [12:21] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea_popescu... may you give me the things now? | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes trade please euloraplayer | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | right click me and there's a bag button | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy. | [12:31] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [12:31] |
| euloraplayer: | thansk you | [12:32] |
| euloraplayer: | why i have not been required to use the starttrade command....? | [12:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | command line style is optional | [12:35] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [12:40] |
| euloraplayer: | something bad has happened in our trade.... | [12:40] |
| euloraplayer: | oh no... its nothing | [12:41] |
| euloraplayer: | diana_coman... i am still receiving that "not finished and not timedout, will wait" messages... how may i know how much is the timeout or how may i make the bot to stop waiting? | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | try /unstick | [12:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | but otherwise, most activities have a cooldown, if you're in cooldown this is normal/ | [12:53] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (22 hours 53 mins) | [13:18] |
| euloraplayer: | i would like to thanks mircea_popescu, diana_coman, danielpbarron | [13:46] |
| euloraplayer: | I have had a excellent experience entering eulora and playing for a few hours | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool deal. | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, do you have a progress bar showing ? if yes, then you do NOT want to stop the bot from waiting until it finishes | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | you need to wait until it finishes as otherwise you will just spoil the tool | [13:57] |
| euloraplayer: | diana_coman | [14:14] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know... where is this progress bar? | [14:14] |
| euloraplayer: | I only receive that message ... i think it appears repeteadlly from time to time | [14:16] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (21 hours 53 mins) | [14:18] |
| danielpbarron: | ok, my changes to foxybot have compiled. let's see how wrongly it behaves from what i expected | [14:29] |
| danielpbarron: | worse than i thought, didn't make it past login | [14:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [14:33] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (20 hours 53 mins) | [15:18] |
| euloraplayer: | unfortunately..sometimes the client is closing alone | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, does it crash? | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | or do you mean the irc client? | [15:37] |
| euloraplayer: | no..i means the game... sometimes it crash | [15:59] |
| euloraplayer: | now i have started to run it as administrator to see if the crashes stop... | [15:59] |
| euloraplayer: | i am not using a desktop IRC client..but a web IRC client (webchat.freenode.net) | [16:00] |
| euloraplayer: | could you help me to use the items that mircea_popescu gave to me | [16:01] |
| euloraplayer: | ? | [16:01] |
| euloraplayer: | coarse frangible thread... | [16:02] |
| euloraplayer: | Tiny Boulder Enumerator+ Little Bit O'Nothing + Boulder | [16:03] |
| euloraplayer: | what i have done already was to unlock two "Tiny Boulder Exploration Marker" | [16:04] |
| euloraplayer: | my bot is still waiting ...and i cant explore more for while | [16:05] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (19 hours 53 mins) | [16:18] |
| euloraplayer: | SOMEONE may help me? | [17:10] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, what does the "enumerator" say? | [17:16] |
| danielpbarron: | also i wouldn't use the bot for now | [17:17] |
| euloraplayer: | 2 things | [17:17] |
| euloraplayer: | Combine 1 Liitle Bit O Nothing into Tiny Boulder Bundle | [17:18] |
| euloraplayer: | this is the first thing | [17:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (18 hours 53 mins) | [17:18] |
| euloraplayer: | but I dont have a "Tiny Boulder Bundle"... and i dont know how to assemble one | [17:19] |
| danielpbarron: | you just said how | [17:21] |
| wyrdmantis: | euloraplayer: target the Tiny Boulder Claim, put in the little bit o nothing, clic "use container" | [17:24] |
| euloraplayer: | ok... how to target...? | [17:25] |
| wyrdmantis: | right clic on the claim, left click on the eye | [17:25] |
| wyrdmantis: | that will open it | [17:25] |
| euloraplayer: | sorry im not understanding | [17:26] |
| euloraplayer: | i have a lot of items in my inventory..is not possible right click them | [17:26] |
| wyrdmantis: | where are you? | [17:26] |
| wyrdmantis: | ahhh, you don't have a claim, yet | [17:27] |
| danielpbarron: | i thought he said he unlocked one | [17:27] |
| danielpbarron: | it's possible it went away though | [17:27] |
| wyrdmantis: | euloraplayer: come to town | [17:28] |
| euloraplayer: | yes... i unlocked a type of .....furniture | [17:29] |
| euloraplayer: | and I am guarding it now | [17:29] |
| euloraplayer: | what is the coordinate of town? | [17:29] |
| wyrdmantis: | type /pos and write here what it says | [17:30] |
| wyrdmantis: | on the command bar | [17:30] |
| euloraplayer: | 298.67 4.13 324.10 | [17:30] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, what might cause the client to crash over the single line addition of >> recipe rcp; << in the private members section of class ExploreActivity in botactivity.h ? | [17:31] |
| wyrdmantis: | ok wait euloraplayer | [17:31] |
| euloraplayer: | ok...waiting | [17:31] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, you put the bit of nothing into the "furniture" and you put the "enumerator" in your character's mind slot, then click combine to make the bundle and it'll just keep on going to finish building the bundle and you'll end up with some boulders in the claim which you can take with you | [17:33] |
| wyrdmantis: | ^ that | [17:34] |
| wyrdmantis: | try, euloraplayer | [17:34] |
| euloraplayer: | ok droped | [17:34] |
| wyrdmantis: | no lol | [17:35] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, that in itself is no reason for a crash of any sort really | [17:35] |
| wyrdmantis: | you have to put iy IN the claim | [17:35] |
| euloraplayer: | what is the claim? where is the claim? | [17:35] |
| wyrdmantis: | first , select the unlocked container | [17:35] |
| wyrdmantis: | the claim is the forniture you unlocked | [17:36] |
| wyrdmantis: | the stick | [17:36] |
| wyrdmantis: | all these sticks around us are claims | [17:36] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, well it causes a crash all on its own! | [17:37] |
| euloraplayer: | sorry.. i was not looking for to trade | [17:37] |
| danielpbarron: | eh i'm gonna do a full recompile then | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, you tell me you got a clean client copy , added that single line, compiled and then it crashes there? | [17:37] |
| danielpbarron: | more or less | [17:38] |
| wyrdmantis: | euloraplayer: i'm writing to you in private chat | [17:38] |
| danielpbarron: | i can remove that line and it works, add it and it crashes. but maybe there is some other file messing it up that needs to get re-written in a full compile idk | [17:38] |
| diana_coman: | trouble is probably in the more or less, somewhere in there | [17:38] |
| euloraplayer: | danielpbarron...when i click combine it says: "the container is locked" | [17:39] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, unlock it | [17:39] |
| wyrdmantis: | lol | [17:39] |
| diana_coman: | as with the previous similar "trouble" - if you remove it and it works, it does not really follow IT was the trouble in itself | [17:39] |
| euloraplayer: | rsrs | [17:40] |
| danielpbarron: | all other .cpp and .h files are "original" | [17:40] |
| wyrdmantis: | uff, my client crashed | [17:44] |
| euloraplayer: | you should be laughing seeing me trying to combine | [17:48] |
| wyrdmantis: | euloraplayer: pick up that lbn | [17:49] |
| euloraplayer: | danielpbarron...when i click "combine" the message is "there is nothing in this container" | [17:49] |
| euloraplayer: | picked up | [17:49] |
| wyrdmantis: | ok, now come close that one in front of me | [17:50] |
| wyrdmantis: | euloraplayer: are you sure you unlocked a container? do you have a key in your inventory? | [17:50] |
| wyrdmantis: | euloraplayer: that one in front of you is unlocked | [17:51] |
| euloraplayer: | i have many keys | [17:52] |
| euloraplayer: | that one in front of me is guarded by you | [17:52] |
| wyrdmantis: | go a little far and then come back | [17:53] |
| wyrdmantis: | still guarded? | [17:54] |
| euloraplayer: | yes..still guarded.. | [17:55] |
| wyrdmantis: | anyway... to unlock a claim you must right click on it and left click on the door icon that appears | [17:57] |
| wyrdmantis: | when it's unlocked you drop the lbn INSIDE the claim | [17:58] |
| wyrdmantis: | now a must go, farewell | [17:58] |
| wyrdmantis: | *I | [17:58] |
| euloraplayer: | the lbn is dropped in the stick and the stick is unlocked | [17:59] |
| euloraplayer: | but the "combine" says "There is nothing in this container"... | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, if you click on the "take all" button of the stick - does it get the lbn back into your inventory? | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | ftr "drop" will drop items ON THE GROUND, not in a container | [18:02] |
| euloraplayer: | yes..the lbn returns to my inventory when i click "pick up" | [18:03] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know if i dropped on the ground or in the stick | [18:04] |
| euloraplayer: | it appears like a bag of bitcoins transpassed by the stick... | [18:05] |
| euloraplayer: | i right-click on the stick and then clicked "combine". It says "there is nothing in this container" | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | you can NOT drop in the stick, lol | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, listen | [18:07] |
| euloraplayer: | theres is 1 lbn (transpassed by the stick) and Tiny Bould Enumetaror with 1 unit in my mind slot | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | FIRST you have to open that stick - so right-click and then left-click on the eye icon | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | "transpassed" means on the ground, lol | [18:07] |
| euloraplayer: | rsrs | [18:07] |
| euloraplayer: | lol | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/ | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | might help | [18:08] |
| danielpbarron: | ok, using all the original files, i did jam -aq client | [18:15] |
| danielpbarron: | was able to log in and see myself, no surprise there | [18:15] |
| danielpbarron: | then i add the problem line, did jam -q client | [18:15] |
| danielpbarron: | crashes after login | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | did you modify by any chance the xmls or other data stuff? | [18:16] |
| danielpbarron: | nope | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | mk, let me see this wonder | [18:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i think this is the same issue i had last time i was trying to change the bot | [18:17] |
| danielpbarron: | and it's not clear how i fixed it that time | [18:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (17 hours 53 mins) | [18:18] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, once again I can't seem to be able to reproduce this sort of wonder: I added recipe rcp; as a private member of ExploreActivity, compiled and ran just fine | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | something is dubious there with your setup if the files are indeed what you say | [18:35] |
| diana_coman: | paste somewhere at least the ExploreActivity part so that I see it for starters | [18:35] |
| danielpbarron: | from botactivity.h or from .cpp ? | [18:38] |
| diana_coman: | from where you made the modification so I'd expect botactivity.h | [18:39] |
| danielpbarron: | http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/7cUmj/?raw=true | [18:40] |
| danielpbarron: | not quite original, there's some other extra lines, but those lines were present for the previous test | [18:42] |
| diana_coman: | mhm, did your jam -q client actually COMPILE anything? | [18:45] |
| danielpbarron: | yes, i added a blank line somewhere in the .cpp to force this | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | \x08<\x08danielpbarron\x08>\x08\x0F and it's not clear how i fixed it that time << better notes! | [18:49] |
| diana_coman: | well, it would seem it wasn't fixed in fact, so not sure that'd help but anyway | [18:54] |
| diana_coman: | I start repenting the use of csString for sure | [18:54] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, do a test please and move that recipe rcp; line before attemptsCount for instance (so : first line after private:) | [18:56] |
| euloraplayer: | diana_coman , it has helped already a lot | [18:56] |
| euloraplayer: | but it seems some things looks like diferent | [18:56] |
| diana_coman: | good to hear it euloraplayer | [18:56] |
| diana_coman: | yes, things change in eulora and that was written quite some time ago | [18:56] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [18:57] |
| euloraplayer: | for example: you wrote click on â\u0080\u009Cuseâ\u0080\u009D for a tiny claim or â\u0080\u009Ccombineâ\u0080\u009D | [18:57] |
| euloraplayer: | i cant find this "use" button | [18:57] |
| diana_coman: | that hasn't changed though, lol | [18:58] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I can confirm: a full recompile (jam -a client) -> works; partial recompile (jam -q client) -> crashes | [18:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [18:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | this sounds rather like gcc bug at that | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | btw, for next time: run it in gdb and dump the stack trace | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect it's more the jam shit | [19:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, always the thing to do with new builds | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | possibly + that csString ffs | [19:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah yeah, huh. try simple jam an see maybe ? | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, "When you got a claim (by whatever means), go next to it, right click on it (itâ\u0080\u0099s a stick basically and a rather narrow one at that, so yeah, aim and click) and â\u0080\u009Cexamineâ\u0080\u009D it (the eye icon)." | [19:01] |
| diana_coman: | did you do that? | [19:01] |
| diana_coman: | did it open a window like the one in the second image there? | [19:01] |
| danielpbarron: | i always run in gdb but the trace is never helpful (to me) | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | the one with icons on its left: hand, puzzle, hand etc | [19:02] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, it is helpful to me, lol | [19:02] |
| danielpbarron: | http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/EhR7F/?raw=true | [19:05] |
| danielpbarron: | that is the result of the test you asked me to do | [19:05] |
| danielpbarron: | i did jam -aq client with the original files, and then jam -q client with the single line addition | [19:05] |
| danielpbarron: | maybe it is the case that changes to .h files need to go with a full recompile ? | [19:07] |
| danielpbarron: | this only ever happens when something is changed in that stupid .h file | [19:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | certainly a good idea to -aq if -q wedges it | [19:07] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, do ANOTHER jam -a after the change | [19:08] |
| diana_coman: | this is what I confirmed above | [19:08] |
| diana_coman: | and it really seems that jam is basically too stupid to actually figure out that if .h changed then it better properly recompile the thing | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | such improvement this jam, what can I say | [19:10] |
| danielpbarron: | well if that's all it takes then wonderful! because changes to the .h are usually very minimal. not really a possibility of semantic bugs in there | [19:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, confirmed. always -aq when you touch a .h file because teh jam fails to correctly identify what changed and you're left with badly linked mess which crashes. | [19:11] |
| danielpbarron: | in retrospect it does seem rather silly i had to add/remove a blank line to a .cpp file to get it to jam -q client | [19:13] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, there should NOT be much semantics in .h files to start with | [19:13] |
| diana_coman: | by the looks of it jam was then so bright that it figured out it was "just a blank line" and so it served the steaming mess | [19:14] |
| diana_coman: | the .h files should simply make the structure clear; the actual workings should be in the .cpp | [19:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (16 hours 53 mins) | [19:18] |
| danielpbarron: | confirmed | [19:25] |
| diana_coman: | good | [19:30] |
| euloraplayer: | diana_coman | [19:57] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks i have had already some success and generated some boulders | [19:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [19:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | what quality ? | [19:58] |
| euloraplayer: | oh...quality 1 | [19:58] |
| euloraplayer: | the minimum minimorum | [19:59] |
| euloraplayer: | but the strange is that i had not to use the bundles | [19:59] |
| euloraplayer: | i just placed the bln in the container and the enumerator in mind slot | [20:00] |
| euloraplayer: | and it generated around 20 boulders directly ..of quality 1 as i saw now | [20:00] |
| euloraplayer: | 1 bln for enumerator of 1 | [20:01] |
| euloraplayer: | now i am receiving a new message when i try to combine or use | [20:02] |
| euloraplayer: | the message is "Your target is either not a claim or not a claim anymore" | [20:03] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (15 hours 53 mins) | [20:18] |
| euloraplayer: | good night people ..thanks for this help | [20:25] |
| euloraplayer: | who knows tomorrow i have conditions to continue | [20:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, you used up that claim already | [20:40] |
| euloraplayer: | what can i do if i have already some boulders bundles of quality 620? are they useful? | [20:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [20:47] |
| euloraplayer: | my inventory weight is over its capacity... | [20:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, either sell them or store them. | [20:47] |
| euloraplayer: | ok...but how cna i sell them..? | [20:48] |
| euloraplayer: | or where can i store them other place than the inventory? | [20:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | the npcs have a banking service. you can sell to either electron or players. | [20:51] |
| euloraplayer: | and ...there is a specific npcs that may buy they from me? | [20:53] |
| euloraplayer: | i means..what is his/her name? | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | electron | [21:07] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, save up stuff and auction in bulk. i think you can get more money that way. unless you can't afford to tie up your assets in resources like that | [21:10] |
| danielpbarron: | aaaand i'm in! | [21:11] |
| danielpbarron: | no crash with my bot changes | [21:11] |
| danielpbarron: | lemme just mention the word malloc here incase i go searching for this later | [21:12] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..thanks... and how may i find electron... i means the coords... | [21:12] |
| euloraplayer: | ? | [21:12] |
| euloraplayer: | i THINK i cant wait because my inventory is overloaded.. i cant even walk as it all seems | [21:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | you may find his coords in the wiki i guess. i dun recall what they were. he's up on the old town hill | [21:14] |
| danielpbarron: | around 175 0 150 or something | [21:15] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (14 hours 53 mins) | [21:18] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know why...but i cant walk | [21:25] |
| Birdman2: | you maybe be too fat | [21:25] |
| euloraplayer: | arrow keys does not make me move | [21:25] |
| euloraplayer: | :))) | [21:25] |
| euloraplayer: | i think my inventory is preventing me to walk | [21:26] |
| euloraplayer: | lol.... this makes some sense in eulora world? | [21:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, try grabbing hold of your house and walk. | [21:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | makes sense irl ? | [21:28] |
| Birdman2: | i couldnt walk around with more than one boulder, let alone the 20-30 my macho man can carry | [21:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah it's a wonder what he does, feng shui pile of kerb stones lol | [21:29] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea? may you explain what means "irl"? | [21:29] |
| Birdman: | in real life | [21:30] |
| euloraplayer: | oh..thanks | [21:30] |
| euloraplayer: | :)))) at the moment i havent this answer... | [21:30] |
| euloraplayer: | oh better thinking...answer is yes... overloaded people cant walk irl... | [21:32] |
| euloraplayer: | how may i solve this... i need to walk to find electron | [21:34] |
| danielpbarron: | what caused the problem in the first place? | [21:34] |
| danielpbarron: | this reminds me of that episode of simpsons where homer gets his hand stuck in the vending machine | [21:34] |
| danielpbarron: | firefighter: "is it possible you're not stuck, you just need to let go of the soda can?" | [21:34] |
| danielpbarron: | cut to homer walking away rubbing his sore arm sans soda can | [21:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao | [21:45] |
| euloraplayer: | danielpbarron: thanks for your help | [22:15] |
| danielpbarron: | yw | [22:15] |
| euloraplayer: | ok... could you give a help with boulders bundles.. i have some of them...but i dont what to do with them or how to combine them with mind item and container | [22:16] |
| euloraplayer: | *know | [22:16] |
| Birdman: | you should have an enumeration that comes with finding the claim. you put that in the mind slot, which is a brain. then you put the bundle in the claim, and click the use button | [22:17] |
| Birdman: | and when you do that you should see a progress bar start, and when it finishes it uses the bundle and enumeration, spits out resources in the claim | [22:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (13 hours 53 mins) | [22:18] |
| euloraplayer: | ok.. it has worked | [22:19] |
| euloraplayer: | is the same to put a lbn instead the boulder bundle? | [22:19] |
| danielpbarron: | the lbn become the bundle. if you have one you don't need the other | [22:20] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [22:25] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks | [22:42] |
| euloraplayer: | what should i do with many boulders of q1 that worth 0 cuppers..is it possible to improve the quality or shoulde be used to build other items | [22:43] |
| euloraplayer: | or anything else? | [22:43] |
| Birdman: | you should save all that up for awhile and can then sell them for coppers to fund more mining | [22:44] |
| Birdman: | theres a bot in the channel that handles auctions quite well | [22:44] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 59*0.01 | [22:44] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 59*0.01 = 0.59 | [22:44] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, they are worth 0.59 copper which electron helpfully rounds down for ya | [22:44] |
| Birdman: | if you aren't going to be putting any btc into eulora, and are trying to grind up from nothing, thats your best bet | [22:45] |
| Birdman: | you are probably going to want to buy the building and gathering skill items, so that you dont miss out on the experience | [22:45] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah with anyone able to get a noob account i think that settles once and for all that eternal question | [22:46] |
| danielpbarron: | it's not even a lot of money, idk how nobody has come along trying to buy skills yet | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | lazy | [22:48] |
| euloraplayer: | by the way.... what npcs do offer training and banking...? | [22:48] |
| danielpbarron: | 100k is what in USD? 1 dollar? | [22:48] |
| danielpbarron: | both do banking but i doubt you mean banking, you mean storage. both also do storage. the training one is near the buildings and fire and mysterious portal | [22:49] |
| danielpbarron: | but you have nothing yet to train | [22:49] |
| euloraplayer: | both? who are both? | [22:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | electron and heina | [22:52] |
| euloraplayer: | but..as i could see ...electron does not offer banking... | [22:53] |
| euloraplayer: | just buy/sell/give/storage | [22:53] |
| danielpbarron: | left click him once, then type /bank personal | [22:54] |
| danielpbarron: | but that's mostly a thing for us rich elders | [22:54] |
| danielpbarron: | idk what use you'd have for it | [22:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | you were looking for storage weren't you ? | [22:56] |
| euloraplayer: | oh..thanks.. at least is interesting to see | [22:56] |
| euloraplayer: | i have already used storage with electron...since my boulders charges 0 with him | [22:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | people pay a decent penny for q 1 stuff as you could no doubt see in the running auction. | [22:57] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know how to see the running auctions | [22:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess oyu're not much into reading the log huh. | [22:58] |
| euloraplayer: | neither how to place my item/boulders in auction | [22:58] |
| danielpbarron: | hey he found his user/pass in the log! | [22:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | tru | [22:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman incidentally if you sell a load to electron does he first round down the price and then multiply with the amt or does he sanely first multiply and then round ? | [22:59] |
| euloraplayer: | i think is the first ... | [23:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibly. if so it'll get fixed eventually. | [23:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i think tomorrow ima put up some cs for auction, word to the wise. | [23:03] |
| euloraplayer: | cs? what is? | [23:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | chetty sticks | [23:03] |
| Birdman: | chetty's divining sticks | [23:03] |
| euloraplayer: | great thanks | [23:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's right | [23:04] |
| Birdman: | its the current highest tier exploration tool available | [23:04] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know why ..but i cant acces the logs | [23:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | where are you looking ? | [23:04] |
| euloraplayer: | in the channellog | [23:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | try http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-14.log.html#t00:18:56 | [23:05] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-14 00:18:56: <lobbesbot> AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (15 hours 53 mins) | [23:05] |
| euloraplayer: | "Não foi possÃÂvel encontrar o endereço DNS do servidor de logs.minigame.bz." | [23:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [23:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's 192.121.170.137 | [23:07] |
| euloraplayer: | it has become acessible again | [23:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool. | [23:08] |
| euloraplayer: | cool | [23:13] |
| euloraplayer: | by the way....am i able to place my boulders in auction? ..right now..alone | [23:13] |
| danielpbarron: | yep | [23:15] |
| danielpbarron: | enjoy free auctions while they last i guess | [23:16] |
| euloraplayer: | how may i do it? | [23:16] |
| danielpbarron: | type !Qauction X Y Z where X is the starting bid, Y is how many hours it should last, and Z is a description of what it is | [23:17] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (12 hours 53 mins) | [23:18] |
| euloraplayer: | here? or in the main or autioc chat window? | [23:19] |
| Birdman: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-02-07.log.html#t08:27:15 | [23:19] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-02-07 08:27:15: <lobbes> I'll post a commands list to the help later this week (off to bed), but basic commands are as follows: !Qauction <opening> <duration in hours> <lot/item string? ; !Qbid <auctionid> <amount> ; !Qauctioncancel <auctionid> ; !Qauctionlist <no args> will list ALL active ; !Qauctionlist <auctionid> will list the info for that ONE auction, regardless if it already expired | [23:19] |
| danielpbarron: | here | [23:19] |
| euloraplayer: | ok .. where i see the rules for format the lot/item strings? | [23:21] |
| lobbes: | <danielpbarron> enjoy free auctions while they last i guess << the meter's been running :P I'ma aggregate it all up and lump it into the first billing cycle. | [23:22] |
| Birdman: | item string is just what is being sold with detailed specifics, quality&quantity | [23:22] |
| euloraplayer: | yes...but i have read that are some abreviations for items | [23:23] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman has alot of the abbreviation in her cookbook, but as far as it goes thats not really important, you'll learn alot of it as you go | [23:24] |
| Birdman: | boulders just go by 'B' | [23:24] |
| lobbes: | !Qitem b | [23:25] |
| lobbesbot: | ITEM: Boulder (b) Base Value: 59 Bundle Value: | [23:25] |
| euloraplayer: | ok .. i have found: http://www.eulorum.org/Index_of_Resources | [23:25] |
| lobbes: | http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/index.html | [23:25] |
| lobbes: | lots of good stuff in there | [23:25] |
| euloraplayer: | !Qauctionlist | [23:35] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 41: 500k SM q 1 Opening: 785k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-14 16:12:36 UTC (12 hours 37 mins) | [23:35] |
| Birdman: | do auction houses take commission? or a flat fee | [23:36] |
| euloraplayer: | !Qauction <now> <10> <70 q1 B> | [23:39] |
| lobbesbot: | euloraplayer: Error: '<10>' is not a valid integer. | [23:39] |
| euloraplayer: | !Qauction <now> 10 "70 q1 B" | [23:39] |
| lobbesbot: | euloraplayer: Error: Invalid bid input. Examples of valid input: 12 ; 37k ; 1.3mn | [23:39] |
| euloraplayer: | what is "mn"? | [23:40] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, i'd hold back on starting that auction of yours. it's extremely unlikely you'd make more than you'd owe lobbes | [23:40] |
| danielpbarron: | i think best bet is put the boulders in storage and move on | [23:41] |
| euloraplayer: | oh it is ok ....i placed in storage and 'moving' on | [23:42] |
| euloraplayer: | but i was testing if the sintax to place in auction was that... | [23:42] |
| euloraplayer: | and still stays the doubt ...what is "1.3mn"? | [23:43] |
| danielpbarron: | 1.3 million coppers | [23:43] |
| euloraplayer: | uff....ok | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | actually you might have luck with tiny 1 hour auctions. how many boulders do you have anyway? | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | oh i see, 70 | [23:44] |
| euloraplayer: | :)))))) 70 to auction | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 0.01*70*59 | [23:45] |
| euloraplayer: | it would be my first 70 coppers | [23:45] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 0.01*70*59 = 41.300000000000004 | [23:45] |
| danielpbarron: | if you're lucky :p | [23:45] |
| euloraplayer: | rsrs... | [23:45] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 0.01*70*59*0.00000001*1250 | [23:45] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 0.01*70*59*0.00000001*1250 = 5.162500000000001E-4 | [23:45] |
| euloraplayer: | okay.. i can wait | [23:46] |
| euloraplayer: | i just want to start earning coppers | [23:46] |
| Birdman: | hm | [23:46] |
| danielpbarron: | do jobs for other players | [23:46] |
| Birdman: | hey how many lbn do you have? | [23:46] |
| euloraplayer: | i have a lot.. all that mircea_popescu give me at start | [23:47] |
| danielpbarron: | what's a lot, i've probably used a few hundred thousand of the things | [23:47] |
| euloraplayer: | no..my lot is around 100 lbns | [23:50] |
| Birdman: | i see | [23:50] |
| Birdman: | you should probs use them yourself, but i am in need of bits to just keep my bot running without building claims | [23:51] |
| Birdman: | just sucks cause it'd eat a bit every time i find a mining or lumberjack claim | [23:51] |
| euloraplayer: | bits? | [23:52] |
| Birdman: | little bits of nothing | [23:53] |
| Birdman: | i'd be more than happy to turn your 100 bits into 100 tiny mining claims worth of stuff for free though | [23:53] |
| Birdman: | they are in very short supply right now though so im not sure thats even the most profitable way to use them | [23:54] |
| Birdman: | plus there's value in you doing things yourself in the game to get some idea of how things work | [23:55] |
| euloraplayer: | another important question.... | [23:58] |
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