#eulora Logs for 09 Feb 2017



February 9th, 2017 by Diana Coman
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 7: 559 bb q347 Opening: 750k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:13:45 UTC (1.97061328611 hours) [00:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 8: 1726 wwb q172 Opening: 796k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:16:36 UTC (2.01811323028 hours) [00:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 9: 2102 wpl q180 Opening: 860k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:19:20 UTC (2.06366872528 hours) [00:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 10: 5367 cdg q179 Opening: 1mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:23:07 UTC (2.12672421444 hours) [00:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 7: 559 bb q347 Opening: 750k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:13:45 UTC (0.970459054444 hours) [01:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 8: 1726 wwb q172 Opening: 796k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:16:36 UTC (1.01795899278 hours) [01:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 9: 2102 wpl q180 Opening: 860k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:19:20 UTC (1.06351449722 hours) [01:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 10: 5367 cdg q179 Opening: 1mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:23:07 UTC (1.12656999972 hours) [01:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 7 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: Birdman [02:14]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 8: 1726 wwb q172 Opening: 796k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:16:36 UTC (0.0176990277778 hours) [02:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 9: 2102 wpl q180 Opening: 860k Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:19:20 UTC (0.0632545202778 hours) [02:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 10: 5367 cdg q179 Opening: 1mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-09 07:23:07 UTC (0.1263100225 hours) [02:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 8 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: Birdman [02:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 9 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: Birdman [02:20]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 10 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: Birdman [02:23]
Birdman: so much for that lol [03:01]
mircea_popescu: Birdman opening price above market price never worked. [07:37]
Dan_: hi [07:57]
danielpbarron: hi Dan_ [07:57]
Guest60198: how do i actually download the game [07:58]
danielpbarron: what's your OS [07:58]
mircea_popescu: are you looking for a binary or the source ? [07:58]
Guest60198: Whatever i need to pla [07:58]
Guest60198: play* [07:58]
mircea_popescu: mmm. are you on windows ? [07:58]
Guest60198: Mac [07:59]
danielpbarron: ouch, did anyone ever get that working? [07:59]
mircea_popescu: see http://www.eulorum.org/OS_X [08:00]
Guest60198: im not sure [08:00]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron iirc phf had it working and posted a recipe. [08:00]
Guest60198: looks tricky [08:00]
mircea_popescu: yeah, you have to brew. [08:01]
danielpbarron: a craft i started ~12 hours ago is less than 1/4 done! [08:01]
mircea_popescu: high quality ? [08:01]
danielpbarron: 1300+ [08:01]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [08:02]
danielpbarron: #1 pop here i come :D [08:02]
mircea_popescu: lel [08:03]
mircea_popescu: imagines how much this guy'd have hated the game had he decided against nature to actually read and follow a page's worth of tricky instructions. [08:04]
lobbes: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-02-08.log.html#t18:19:27 << So that I understand, in this example the 1.92 would represent the over-market percentage (in fraction form), and the 6.5mn is the price for which it actually sold? [10:50]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-02-08 18:19:27: <mircea_popescu> lobbes in the ideal, i'd just go to a website, select time (like, past week, or two or four) and it'd show me prices for all items it knows, something like : wwb : 1.92 (6.5mn) ; signifiying that wwb sold for 190\% over a total 6.5mn ecu. [10:50]
lobbes: Now, my next dumb question is: how would I source the market price? Is this simply the average price sold at auction for each item, or is it sourced from, say, a NPC in-game? I gotta do some log/wiki reading it seems [10:53]
diana_coman: lobbes, the 190\% is based on base-value (what s.mg pays for items) [10:54]
diana_coman: wwb has for example base value 141 as http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/Widows-Whisp-Berries.html [10:54]
lobbes: Aha. Thank you diana_coman [10:54]
diana_coman: so at 190\% it means that each wwb sold for 1.4*141 [10:54]
diana_coman: the 6.5mn must be the total value transacted at 190\% basically [10:55]
diana_coman: ugh, 1.9*141 [10:55]
diana_coman: sorry 'bout that [10:55]
diana_coman: as I see it lobbes , your bot needs to have a list of base values for all sorts of items; then it can calculate the \% as coppers_paid/(items_count*(quality/100)*base_value) [10:58]
diana_coman: as base value is what s.mg pays for one item of q 100 [10:59]
shinohai: ^ diana_coman 's site is the only way I can keep with the maths for this shit [10:59]
lobbes: Ah okay. This is extremely helpful, thank you [10:59]
diana_coman: I think danielpbarron was trying to get candi to do some useful calculations [11:00]
diana_coman: you are most welcome lobbes ; this auction thing is really very useful and it'll be great if it basically offers some market data too [11:00]
shinohai: needs to update jhvh1 today with new "town" [11:03]
diana_coman: shinohai, is there a list of commands for jhvh1? [11:08]
shinohai: Just the one on pete's site but I need to get with him and update it [11:12]
diana_coman: mind just adding it to the wiki? [11:12]
diana_coman: !~help [11:13]
jhvh1: diana_coman: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands. [11:13]
diana_coman: !~command [11:13]
jhvh1: diana_coman: Error: "command" is not a valid command. [11:13]
diana_coman: hm [11:13]
shinohai: jhvh1 is kind of a gribble clone because mircea_popescu needed it, but I disabled some of the more insecure things. I want to make special commands available for the lordship [11:27]
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "is" is not a valid command. [11:27]
shinohai: lol [11:27]
shinohai: regex ftw [11:28]
danielpbarron: lobbes, http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/index.html [11:32]
mircea_popescu: lobbes diana_coman has it, you'll need a list of the base quality prices as well as a method to adjust by quality. i suppose we'll have to standardize "qxxx" as an indicator. [11:46]
mircea_popescu: so people go !Qauction whatever the fuck q999 and that's it, the one word consisting of numbers preceded by the small letter q is the quality indicator. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: kind-of ad-hoc but no better occurs to me. [11:48]
danielpbarron: auction quantity quality whatever the fuck [11:48]
danielpbarron: or wait, doesn't each item have a unique short-form? [11:49]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it gets iffy when you go to tools. nobody quotes tools by proper quality but by durability [11:49]
mircea_popescu: kinda, but from what jurov discovered it's not exactly reliable i think. i may have to do some renamings. [11:49]
danielpbarron: that is proper quality of tool, divide it by the durability of a quality 100 tool (as you put it) and get the premium [11:50]
mircea_popescu: i guess so yeah [12:04]
danielpbarron: it's been 18 hours, i'm over 1/3 done now [16:10]
diana_coman: Foxy's been building a remark for ~15 hours and it doesn't seem to be quite 1/3 done... [17:07]

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