#eulora Logs for 14 Nov 2016



November 14th, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: ohohoh set it to craft adze, wake up to 7 imp axes! [07:16]
mircea_popescu: no pop but sitll nice [07:17]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION stack CFT, q 156, heard 5.3mn hanbot . eta tomorrow 5pm art ; mod6's pack of bps ( http://dpaste.com/3F9Z3Q9.txt ), 460k heard mircea_popescu ; eta 5pm art. [07:17]
mircea_popescu: shinohai wanna dig up this here grass ? [08:40]
shinohai: Sure thing mircea_popescu be right there. [08:40]
shinohai: be back soon! [08:44]
mircea_popescu: so here's the funny thing : i was working on q 145 adze bundles, and getting out q 134 product. the whole run was 100 units. [08:46]
mircea_popescu: this means i was putting in 100 * 1.45 * 9352 = 1356040 and got back out 1253168 base value of axe. [08:46]
mircea_popescu: however, i also had a mini pop, which gave me 1 more d 12491 adze, and 7 d 22109 adzes. so therefore : 1356040 - 1253168 - 12491 - 7*22109 = â\u0088\u009264382 [08:48]
mircea_popescu: ie, i made 64k (4.7\%) MORE tool by doing a 11\% overcraft on them [08:48]
shinohai: not bad [08:55]
mircea_popescu: yeah, it jsut adds to the infernal complication. another question which has no answer : "suppose i want to get the maximum tool out of this bundle - what should i do ?" [08:55]
mircea_popescu: apparently... overcraft it a little is a valid response. [08:55]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 3150*60*1.08 * .1 [09:24]
mircea_popescu: cheerios. [09:25]
shinohai: ty! [09:25]
shinohai: 3150 grass is like 3x more than I obtained over the course of mining all weekend xD [09:25]
mircea_popescu: lol [09:25]
mircea_popescu: well, ords are kinda hard to get. i usually dig up 5-10k tool hits to get 4-5 like you've been working [09:25]
mircea_popescu: takes about a day [09:25]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 3150*60*1.08 * .1 = 20412 [09:26]
mircea_popescu: the sad thing here is that recently i got a remakr of grass, which was i don't even recall how many stacks, and it's all gone to cft. [09:26]
shinohai: btw diana_coman you have time to trade for cft [09:27]
mircea_popescu: is kinda curious how long before the first eulora corps spring up. [09:27]
shinohai: eulora corps? [09:28]
mircea_popescu: well yes. just like irl - pool investor money, go do X thing, split profits. [09:28]
mircea_popescu: "First Eulora Grass Co." [09:28]
mircea_popescu: there clearly are some things with enough market by now that one can depend on it. pretty sure if you came with 1mn grass for sale it'd sell that same day. [09:29]
shinohai: ah yes [09:29]
mircea_popescu: 1mn grass q 108 is like 1btc worth. [09:29]
mircea_popescu: sooo in other sad news, i am entirely out of worn old screens for the purpose of shredding. the last 160 clicks run yielded barely 100 mites, which means we got ... no more bouq cons clicking available as of now. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: i'm working to get some water together and see, but even so - it's like 1 more. absent more wos we're plugged. [11:01]
mircea_popescu: oh look at that - i'm also out of woa bps. well... that's that then! [11:02]
mircea_popescu: hey shinohai wanna do a guaranteed pop for me ? [11:39]
shinohai: sure be right there [11:40]
shinohai: kk ready when you are mircea_popescu [11:44]
mircea_popescu: ok one sec ima give you all the things. [11:45]
shinohai: kk [11:45]
mircea_popescu: and ima pay you 100k cash for it too. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: ok pick up those screens, put boots on and hit it [11:46]
mircea_popescu: should be ~hour [11:46]
shinohai: mkay its going ... will ping you when it finishes. [11:48]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [11:48]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so i just made an experiment making some very high q GT, mostly because i looted the bps. the story goes like this : i made ACG out of bps q 1154 because whatever, i had them. they theoretically should then be worth 725*10*11.54 = 83665 ea. the bundle was q 244 (whatever, say 200\%) = 7254 * 2 * 2.44 = 35399.52. [12:27]
mircea_popescu: the acg came out q 653, so per bottle it cost me 83655+35399+2933*5 = 133719 ea, or 282\% (imo not terible, for that q). [12:27]
mircea_popescu: the few gt bps i had were at q 522, so theoretically worth 1639*5.22*10 = 85555.8 ea (heh!) and the bundle (other than the gin) is (2 * 366 * 1.95 +15 * 73 * 1.6 + 59 * 1.6)/(2 * 366 +15 * 73+ 59) = 174\% on a partial bv of 1886 (out of 16494, so 0.1143). [12:27]
mircea_popescu: the bundle being q 616 its non-gin component is then (6.16 * 16394 - 6.53 * 2 * 7254) / 1886 = q 331 and therefore worth 1886 * 3.31 * 1.74 = 10862.2284 [12:27]
mircea_popescu: so then for each gt click i spent say 8k for decay + 85.5k for bp + 2*133.7k for gin + 10862 nongin = 371.76k ecu per click. the gt came out of all this q 688, so that means 371.76 / 16.394 / 6.88 = 330\%. which doesn't seem to me too bad. would you pay 330\% on gt q 688 ? [12:27]
mircea_popescu: note that this is an academic question, seeing how i only got 5 and i wanna save it with my us to make a wos when a bp finally shows up. [12:27]
mircea_popescu: re "bundle should be 200\% whatever" : (24 * 87 * 1.6 + 1 * 1096 * 3.5 + 1 * 4070 * 1.83)/(24 * 87+ 1 * 1096+ 1 * 4070) = 2.01 lol. [12:27]
shinohai: bwahahaha click done mircea_popescu [13:14]
mircea_popescu: sweet, [13:14]
mircea_popescu: trade me shinohai [13:14]
mircea_popescu: check you out, #10 for the month eh :D [13:14]
shinohai: shit hold on wont let me trade container [13:15]
mircea_popescu: container no. [13:15]
mircea_popescu: aww most all neophyte huh [13:18]
shinohai: 194 xD [13:19]
mircea_popescu: aite so drop the wos an' move away a little [13:21]
mircea_popescu: an' trade me for your 5898$ [13:22]
mircea_popescu: eeenjoy. [13:22]
shinohai: thank you kindly! [13:22]
diana_coman: shinohai, I am in town now for that cft [15:05]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, do I understand it correctly that we have no wos and no waters and no way to get either? [15:05]
diana_coman: 330\% for gt 688q is doable, ye [15:05]
shinohai: diana_coman: what was total price on that again? [15:06]
diana_coman: don't recall how much you wanted, lol [15:06]
diana_coman: markup is 180\% [15:06]
shinohai: lemme get 300k worth [15:06]
diana_coman: !~calc 590*180*1.57*1.8 [15:14]
shinohai: mircea_popescu is right we need to divorce from this calc [15:15]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 590*180*1.57*1.8 = 300121.2 [15:16]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman we have very little wos ; no waters. no way to get waters - i don't have apprentice cooking cons. no way to get wos - i don't have l3 mcguyver which im pretty sure it's needed. [15:17]
diana_coman: so much speed! [15:17]
diana_coman: I don't have apprentice cooking cons either :( [15:17]
mircea_popescu: no current way to get l3 cons of any kind - no bouq clicks because no mites [15:17]
diana_coman: so truly stuck [15:17]
mircea_popescu: i suppose so, as wos not currently lootable huh. [15:18]
mircea_popescu: anyone got worn old screens either item or bps ? look well! [15:19]
diana_coman: well, I STILL have a bit of life in my last wos item [15:19]
diana_coman: NO bps though [15:19]
mircea_popescu: im in ~same situation [15:20]
diana_coman: basically I could offer it for some clicks that might yield what we need, but that's about as much as I can do [15:20]
mircea_popescu: thing is we don't, technically, need mites to click bouq cons. 1 suffices. but fuck me... [15:20]
mircea_popescu: recall a time when we had a loit [15:21]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:21]
mircea_popescu: jurov do you happen to have worn old screens ? [15:22]
jurov: none [15:23]
mircea_popescu: say, would you be willing to hold a smg auction sunday ? [15:24]
mircea_popescu: i wanna participate. [15:24]
diana_coman: shinohai, trade [15:25]
diana_coman: enjoy [15:25]
shinohai: ty diana_coman [15:25]
shinohai: p/ [15:25]
shinohai: keeps on grass mining [15:26]
diana_coman: heh, not bad [15:26]
jurov: what auction? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: well ima have to put out some wos bps because apparently we're shit out of wos. [15:52]
mircea_popescu: jurov ^ [15:52]
jurov: dunno, maybe someone around is more interested in running the auction? [16:01]
diana_coman: I guess it's more about who is NOT interested in bidding basically, jurov [16:02]
jurov: that either [16:03]
jurov: i'm not much ingame recently [16:03]
mircea_popescu: well that was the idea, people who play actively aren't as good for this. [16:05]
SonGoku06: hi [16:06]
mircea_popescu: hello [16:06]
SonGoku06: how can i get the account? [16:06]
mircea_popescu: lessee [16:06]
mircea_popescu: SonGoku06 gotta make a pgp key register it with deedbot. see the wiki, it's explained. [16:06]
SonGoku06: done [16:10]
SonGoku06: what next? [16:10]
diana_coman: SonGoku06, it doesn't seem to be registered with deedbot, did you do that step? [16:11]
SonGoku06: wait i will make the reboot [16:11]
mircea_popescu: did he make the reboot ? [16:13]
diana_coman: apparently he did not make it *from* the reboot, lol [16:20]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:20]
SonGoku06: hi again [17:02]
SonGoku06: are now is ok? [17:02]
mircea_popescu: lessee [17:05]
mircea_popescu: nope. [17:05]
diana_coman: does he plan to keep rebooting until it magically workx? [17:26]
mircea_popescu: well, until a better idea arises anyway. [17:26]
shinohai: looks like anond finally gave up, haven't seen him in a while [17:30]
mircea_popescu: apparently this shit is unspeakably hard [17:39]
SonGoku06_: I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am not able to registry my key [17:48]
SonGoku06_: https://keys.connectical.com/ [17:49]
lobbesbot: Title: keys.connectical.com (at keys.connectical.com) [17:49]
SonGoku06_: here i see my key [17:49]
SonGoku06_: but during registratin I have mesage: "Import failed for SonGoku06." [17:50]
shinohai: SonGoku06_: paste your public key here http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/ [17:50]
SonGoku06_: I also do I [17:51]
shinohai: then /msg deedbot !!register <link to your public key [17:51]
SonGoku06_: !!register <C:\Users\user\Desktop\key_name> [17:53]
SonGoku06_: like that? [17:53]
shinohai: no !!register followed by the link on wotpaste to your public key [17:55]
SonGoku06_: no is OK [17:57]
SonGoku06_: now is OK :) [17:57]
SonGoku06_: i make the relog [17:57]
shinohai: ok good, hang tite and mircea_popescu will make you an account. [17:57]
shinohai: Did you download the game already? [17:57]
SonGoku06_: yes [17:58]
SonGoku06_: so what is the next step ? [17:59]
SonGoku06_: i mus wait for mircea? [17:59]
shinohai: yes he has to be the one to make you an account [18:01]
SonGoku06_: ok - so I will contact him tomorow -or today becouse here is now 00:02 :) [18:02]
SonGoku06_: thx for help [18:02]
shinohai: no problem! [18:02]
mod6: what is 'wos' btw? [19:45]
mircea_popescu: hhola [19:49]
mircea_popescu: oh, he got it sorted ? [19:49]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION stack CFT, q 156, heard 5.3mn hanbot . eta tomorrow 5pm art ; mod6's pack of bps ( http://dpaste.com/3F9Z3Q9.txt ), 460k heard mircea_popescu ; eta 5pm art. << sold, pick up plox [19:49]
shinohai: yeah got his key registered it appears [19:49]
mod6: OH [19:50]
mod6: ok. [19:50]
mod6: be right there [19:50]
mircea_popescu: oh AND he left ? [19:51]
mircea_popescu: sigh. [19:51]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell songoku06_ http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/x8025/?raw=true [19:51]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [19:51]
mircea_popescu: mod6 trade me at your leisure. [19:52]
mod6: Ok Sir! [19:52]
mod6: Is that my craft table sitting there? [19:54]
mircea_popescu: nope 1sec [19:54]
mod6: ok np [19:55]
mircea_popescu: have a slightly better pone :) [19:55]
mircea_popescu: ill move as soon as this craft is done [19:55]
mircea_popescu: ~5mins [19:55]
mod6: < mircea_popescu> have a slightly better pone :) << haha nice. [19:55]
mod6: < mircea_popescu> ill move as soon as this craft is done << no worries. [19:56]
mod6: Thanks for conducting the auction on my behalf. [19:56]
mircea_popescu: np [19:56]
hanbot: <mod6> what is 'wos' btw? << worn old screens, the bouquinism tool [20:02]
mod6: ah, ok. thx hanbot [20:02]
mircea_popescu: mod6 all yours [20:07]
mod6: Thanks Sir! [20:09]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'm making a run of banged-up bandar toolkits ; if anyone wants to buy d 17.9k units let me know. [22:13]

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