#eulora Logs for 09 Sep 2016



September 9th, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: PeterL so how we doin' ? [06:52]
Memnon: Hi. If anyone is available, I was wondering, for installation, are the Ubuntu 14.04 dependencies are applicable for 16.04? [07:49]
mircea_popescu: geta [07:49]
mircea_popescu: heya lol [07:49]
shinohai: o/ gm mircea_popescu [07:49]
shinohai: you're here early [07:49]
mircea_popescu: i would expect yes. but if you encounter any trouble Memnon say here and we'll prolly be able to sort you out. [07:49]
mircea_popescu: shinohai ;) [07:50]
Memnon: Cool. Thank you. [07:50]
PeterL: mircea_popescu I have finished crafting, how should I pass you all this stuff? [08:22]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [08:24]
mircea_popescu: you can keep the table for yourself. [08:24]
mircea_popescu: how many stacks of feelins' did you end up with ? [08:31]
PeterL: 16 [08:31]
mircea_popescu: pretty cool./ [08:32]
mircea_popescu: 17 apparently. [08:33]
mircea_popescu: that it ? [08:33]
PeterL: (I'll take ECu instead of BTC for this) [08:33]
mircea_popescu: cool. [08:33]
mircea_popescu: here's your shiny new coin then :D [08:33]
PeterL: apparently counting is hard [08:33]
PeterL: oops, still more [08:34]
mircea_popescu: lol [08:34]
mircea_popescu: that it ? [08:34]
PeterL: yup [08:35]
mircea_popescu: feeelings... it's only... [08:35]
mircea_popescu: FEELINGS [08:35]
PeterL: at least they don't weigh much [08:35]
mircea_popescu: like irl. [08:40]
mircea_popescu: so did you wantto buy something with your dough ? [08:40]
PeterL: hmm, I guess I could use some skill or something? [08:43]
PeterL: or I might need a tool to explore? Still not sure what is the next step in this game [08:43]
mircea_popescu: ahahaa go me! [08:44]
mircea_popescu: PeterL you can have my old pickaxe free, how about that. [08:44]
PeterL: awesome [08:44]
mircea_popescu: so the way it works is you need skillbooks/items to obtain skills, but you can practice anything without any skill [08:49]
mircea_popescu: like, you crafted without skill. what you did is nominally tinkering [08:49]
PeterL: aha, so I can go out exploring without having any mining skill? [08:50]
diana_coman: PeterL, put it another way: you can try your hand at anything without any investment into it (and without gaining any game-experience out of it either); when you got some idea(s) as to what to do next, you can buy the skills you need and start gaining game-experience too [08:50]
diana_coman: and yes, you can explore without any skills [08:50]
mircea_popescu: yeah, you can. [08:51]
mircea_popescu: PeterL you can also explore without any tool. [08:51]
PeterL: does having tool help explore? [08:51]
mircea_popescu: allegedly. [08:51]
mircea_popescu: welcome to the great unknown. game's been running for a year+, questions liek that dun have a solid answer. [08:51]
diana_coman: uhm mircea_popescu how is that exactly in this case? I can explore bh and find something 1/15 tries while I find something 1/1 tries with a tool; as to noob exploring last time someone reported here they had been exploring a whole day bh without finding anything [08:53]
mircea_popescu: YOU [08:53]
mircea_popescu: so what's this say about him ? [08:53]
diana_coman: see noob there [08:53]
diana_coman: noob + tool found something though, need to add that too [08:53]
mircea_popescu: well ok, so in the experience of people other than you, things mostly work that tool helps yes. [08:54]
diana_coman: aha [08:54]
mircea_popescu: i've yet to see some properly maintained loot logs by anyone, so the result is very... dubious. [08:54]
diana_coman: apparently people prefer it to remain ...dubious at least for you :p [08:54]
mircea_popescu: but sure, otherwise i concur with the community consensus that tools do help. [08:54]
mircea_popescu: i just... dun have very good basis for it, and can't say how much. [08:55]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lol there is that. [08:55]
PeterL: well so far I have not found anything with or without tool, so my data is not much help here [09:00]
diana_coman: PeterL, it might help to a. try things for yourself but on a rather *large* scale b. read around everything to figure out at least what has been said/reported c. possibly ask for mentoring if anyone still offers [09:02]
PeterL: I tried it once and it didn't work! This game sucks! /sarcasm [09:03]
mircea_popescu: lol. [09:04]
mircea_popescu: yeah seriously, unlike afaik any game out there, in eulora even million point datasets can be insufficient, and the results dubious for some applications. [09:05]
mircea_popescu: for instance, i got a few dozen pops out of easily a hundred million clicks. [09:05]
diana_coman: I suppose it might also help to keep in mind your current main advantage namely the nonexistent skills: it allows you to get huge overcraft hence loot potentially more [09:08]
diana_coman: I suppose I'd start from there if I had a brand new character, but then again that is a. me b. knowing what I know now [09:09]
mircea_popescu: problem with this is the market in numina isn't so strong so far. he'd sell mid to low q tinkering numina at what 110\% ? [09:11]
PeterL: is there somewhere that lists keybindings (or where to change them?) [09:11]
mircea_popescu: yeah, the cog icon, or else there's a config file. [09:11]
diana_coman: why numina mircea_popescu ? [09:13]
diana_coman: I wouldn't go for numina, no [09:13]
mircea_popescu: oh you meant mining ? yeah there's that. [09:13]
diana_coman: there still are loads of low q numina around and no real demand apparently [09:13]
diana_coman: mining and/or cons [09:13]
diana_coman: he could buy the full setup and make bps, what [09:13]
mircea_popescu: o cons hey huh. [09:13]
mircea_popescu: though they are pretty expensive. [09:13]
diana_coman: so they are [09:13]
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i see it. [09:14]
mircea_popescu: btw PeterL want to do one click for me ? it'll take about an hour or so i expect, i'ma pay 100k. [09:22]
PeterL: sure [09:22]
mircea_popescu: ok lemme sort it all out a sec [09:23]
mircea_popescu: ok so pick up those screens behind you [09:24]
PeterL: k [09:25]
mircea_popescu: put the boots on, bp in head, and go ahead click [09:25]
PeterL: umm, what boots and bp? [09:25]
mircea_popescu: clogs [09:26]
mircea_popescu: and bp, the scroll with a question mark on it. blueprint [09:26]
PeterL: where do I get them? [09:27]
mircea_popescu: all of this is in the screens [09:27]
mircea_popescu: drop them on the ground and look [09:27]
PeterL: ah, screens are container! [09:28]
mircea_popescu: yep [09:29]
mircea_popescu: it's the tool for bouquinism. each craft line has its own tool [09:29]
PeterL: umm, I think I did something wrong, bp and clogs disappeared? [09:31]
PeterL: nevermind, I see them again [09:32]
PeterL: says "not right amount of items" [09:33]
PeterL: needs another sacrifice token, I think? [09:34]
mircea_popescu: naaah [09:34]
mircea_popescu: hm. [09:35]
PeterL: tried again and now it works [09:35]
mircea_popescu: a cool [09:35]
khaos49: hey [10:16]
diana_coman: hi khaos49 [10:20]
khaos49: i joined a few weeks back but never started up, any tasks for me [10:21]
diana_coman: hm, what do you mean by "joined" then? [10:24]
diana_coman: do you have a working account? did you get to do anything at all in game? [10:24]
diana_coman: ask maybe mircea_popescu if he still gives any tasks [10:25]
khaos49: im in game [10:25]
diana_coman: I can give you something to do as well, but I pay in game currency only [10:25]
khaos49: oh, cool what do u want me to do [10:26]
diana_coman: I'll give you some claims to build , have you built any? [10:28]
diana_coman: khaos49, you should then read the wiki first to get some idea http://www.eulorum.org/Gameplay [10:32]
lobbesbot: Title: Gameplay - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [10:32]
diana_coman: anyways, come and find me at coordinates -371.61 44.47 -397.57 and I'll give you some bits for starters [10:34]
mircea_popescu: PeterL did it finish ? [10:52]
PeterL: not yet, about 3/4ths done [10:53]
mircea_popescu: not bad. [10:53]
PeterL: ok, done. [11:21]
PeterL: I left the screens with the stuff by you [11:27]
mircea_popescu: danke [11:53]
mircea_popescu: ohohohoh [11:53]
mircea_popescu: well done on your first pop PeterL :D [11:53]
mircea_popescu: now trade me for your moneyz. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: shit no small change. a sec plox [12:13]
mircea_popescu: now PeterL [12:14]
mircea_popescu: bonus! [12:14]
diana_coman: o.o well done PeterL almost 5mn ecu [12:33]
PeterL: I was wandering around, went through this arched gate thing, and the client crashed [13:14]
wyrdmantis: hi to all [13:16]
PeterL: hi [13:16]
wyrdmantis: eulora runs well on my win10 box, if anyone cares [13:16]
mircea_popescu: nice! [13:17]
mircea_popescu: PeterL reproducible ? [13:17]
shinohai: thx wyrdmantis ... I've actually learned more about WIndows in the past 2 weeks than I ever cared to know xD [13:23]
wyrdmantis: shinohai can be useful [13:29]
mircea_popescu: sooo anyone selling numina then ? [13:29]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ? danielpbarron ? [13:29]
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu what quality? [13:29]
mircea_popescu: any. [13:29]
wyrdmantis: are you talking about lbn right? [13:30]
mircea_popescu: nah, not lbn. stuff like feelings and old apron lint and mites etc [13:30]
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of which : let's do a noob friendly auction. [13:31]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 tinkering book, opening 10k ; 1 building book, opening 10k ; 1 gathering book, opening 10k ; 1k lbn, q 59, opening 60k ; 1k CFT, q 112, opening 100k ; 100 stone adze, d 11.4k opening 1mn. ETA 17:00 ART tomorrow. [13:34]
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu i have feelings [13:37]
wyrdmantis: !~calc 9999 + 6886 [13:41]
jhvh1: wyrdmantis: 9999 + 6886 = 16885 [13:41]
mircea_popescu: ill pay you 115\% [14:12]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I can sell more low q (6, 9) feelingses, sure [14:16]
diana_coman: in about 1 hr when I get back [14:16]
mircea_popescu: kk. [14:16]
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu i'm in town [14:20]
mircea_popescu: go ahead and trade me [14:23]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (9999 * .53 +6886 * .42) * 11.5 [14:25]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (9999 * .53 +6886 * .42) * 11.5 = 94203.285 [14:25]
wyrdmantis: ok [14:25]
mircea_popescu: danke [14:25]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, you around for numina? [14:54]
diana_coman: also: is that auction for noobs only? lol [14:55]
diana_coman: if it isn't: 1mn on the adze; 100k on the cft [14:56]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 tinkering book, opening 10k ; 1 building book, opening 10k ; 1 gathering book, opening 10k ; 1k lbn, q 59, opening 60k ; 1k CFT, q 112, 100k heard diana_coman ; 100 stone adze, d 11.4k 1mn heard diana_coman . ETA 17:00 ART tomorrow. [14:59]
mircea_popescu: and im about to go out so we'll trade later on [14:59]
diana_coman: ok [14:59]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, 1.1 mn the adzes ; 110k the threads ; 10k the tinkering book ; 10k the building book ; 10k the gathering book [15:33]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 tinkering book, 10k heard danielpbarron ; 1 building book, 10k heard danielpbarron ; 1 gathering book, 10k heard danielpbarron ; 1k lbn, q 59, opening 60k ; 1k CFT, q 112, 110k heard danielpbarron ; 100 stone adze, d 11.4k 1,1mn heard danielpbarron . ETA 17:00 ART tomorrow. [16:30]
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis hey, pm in game is rather dubious, game crashes and they can be lost ; i also don't much check them. here is safer. [16:49]
mircea_popescu: bv of petrified feelings is 10, same with nosehairs, apron lints and whatelse. [16:49]
vinimore: hello everyone [19:41]
shinohai: good deal. [19:41]
mircea_popescu: heya vinimore [19:50]
vinimore: so I was told to find you hahaha... where are you? [19:50]
mircea_popescu: currenlty i'm at [19:51]
mircea_popescu: 48 43 331 [19:51]
vinimore: erm... how do I go there? I'm not even sure where I am [19:52]
mircea_popescu: /pos and /point help [19:52]
mircea_popescu: didja see the wiki btw ? [19:52]
vinimore: I looked at it [19:53]
mircea_popescu: aite. [19:53]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 tinkering book, opening 10k ; 1 building book, opening 10k ; 1 gathering book, opening 10k ; 1k lbn, q 59, opening 60k ; 1k CFT, q 112, 100k heard diana_coman ; 100 stone adze, d 11.4k 1mn heard diana_coman . ETA 17:00 ART tomorrow. [19:54]
mircea_popescu: o hey there. [19:59]
vinimore: hey! [19:59]
vinimore: found you hehe [20:00]
mircea_popescu: so did you want some work hauling minerals ? [20:00]
vinimore: sure [20:00]
mircea_popescu: or what can i do for you ? [20:00]
mircea_popescu: aite, lessee here. trade me will you. [20:00]
mircea_popescu: accept is bottom lef [20:01]
mircea_popescu: t [20:01]
mircea_popescu: there you go. you know what to do ? [20:01]
vinimore: not really haha [20:01]
vinimore: explore? [20:01]
mircea_popescu: a sec [20:01]
mircea_popescu: vinimore http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-09-03.log.html#t13:46:16 << see there [20:02]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-09-03 (at logs.minigame.bz) [20:02]
mircea_popescu: except you need widow's wisp bundle not grass. [20:02]
vinimore: behind those silver hills right? [20:07]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [20:09]
vinimore: electrom [20:10]
mircea_popescu: he's around 160 x 160 or so [20:15]
vinimore: I need to be exactly at the keys's coordinates or close to it? [20:26]
mircea_popescu: quite exactly ; there's a stick there you unlock [20:35]
vinimore: I unlocked hahaha [20:36]
vinimore: but now I'm very lost [20:36]
vinimore: I bought the windows wisp [20:37]
mircea_popescu: vinimore you in town ? [21:06]
mircea_popescu: btw diana_coman ready for those nums at your leisure. got grass too ? [21:20]
danielpbarron: did my bids get nulled? [22:19]
mircea_popescu: no ? oh [22:30]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 tinkering book, 10k heard danielpbarron ; 1 building book, 10k heard danielpbarron ; 1 gathering book, 10k heard danielpbarron ; 1k lbn, q 59, opening 60k ; 1k CFT, q 112, 110k heard danielpbarron ; 100 stone adze, d 11.4k 1,1mn heard danielpbarron . ETA 17:00 ART tomorrow. [22:30]
mircea_popescu: i pasted the wrong one\ [22:30]
vinimore: sorry man, I went out to eat something hehehe but I'm back [23:02]
vinimore: and I have a lot of fruits [23:02]
mircea_popescu: heya [23:07]
mircea_popescu: trade me ? you in town yes ? [23:07]
mircea_popescu: vinimore [23:07]
vinimore: I asked you [23:07]
mircea_popescu: ask again plox [23:07]
mircea_popescu: you know teh drill. [23:08]
vinimore: what? [23:09]
mircea_popescu: well i just gave you your second haul. get the swarming grub bundle this time [23:09]
vinimore: okay, from the electron again? [23:10]
mircea_popescu: ayup [23:10]
mircea_popescu: and that'll complete your second bitcent. did you want btc or ecu ? [23:10]
vinimore: btc [23:10]
mircea_popescu: aite. [23:11]
vinimore: how does that work? I don't think I gave you my btc adress [23:17]
mircea_popescu: well yeah, you gotta post your address. [23:25]
vinimore: erm... how many rocks do you need? [23:25]
vinimore: swarming grub* [23:25]
mircea_popescu: all of them. [23:27]
mircea_popescu: all of them vinimore . how many didja get ? [23:27]
vinimore: too many for me to carry hahaha 1.7k [23:28]
mircea_popescu: not bad. well, you do multiple trips. [23:28]
mircea_popescu: which is why it's called hauling. [23:28]
mircea_popescu: make sure you keep the claim locked though, they disappear otherwise. [23:28]
vinimore: okay [23:28]
vinimore: mircea_popescu, here is the first batch [23:32]
mircea_popescu: trade [23:33]
mircea_popescu: ty [23:33]
vinimore: 50 at a time... it will take a long time hahaha [23:33]
mircea_popescu: lol [23:35]
mircea_popescu: some guy did i think 200 or so trips [23:35]
vinimore: once again [23:37]
vinimore: mircea_popescu [23:38]
mircea_popescu: 200gone, 1.5k to go eh ? [23:45]
vinimore: actually, 1538 [23:46]
mircea_popescu: aha [23:46]

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