#eulora Logs for 03 Sep 2016

September 3rd, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: they're right there by that claim [00:05]
mircea_popescu: you got em ? [00:05]
mircea_popescu: i got em [00:05]
Robespierre_: Mircea, are you still handling out the free starter package? [00:24]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ aha [00:30]
Robespierre_: Trying to learn a bit.. Read some guides. Seems I need some skills to begin exploring. [00:30]
mircea_popescu: nah, you can just go and explore [00:30]
Robespierre_: Also, found some Claim Keys laying around. [00:30]
mircea_popescu: those turn to lbn eventually [00:31]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, opening 3 mn . ETA 17:00 ART [00:31]
Robespierre_: Diana has lot's of usefull guides, turns out. [00:31]
Robespierre_: Hehehe [00:31]
mircea_popescu: yep [00:31]
mircea_popescu: there's a lot written about it, danielpbarron has a youtube channel with stuff and also things on his blog [00:31]
mircea_popescu: you can also see http://trilema.com/category/smg/ ; there's a lot of material there too. [00:32]
lobbesbot: Title: S.MG on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [00:32]
Robespierre_: How do I open the map too look for coordinates? [00:32]
Robespierre_: to* [00:32]
mircea_popescu: http://danielpbarron.com/category/eulora/ < daniel's [00:32]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ you don't. but you can say /pos [00:33]
Robespierre_: Oh, got it [00:33]
hanbot: or the wiki's main page, which lists everyone's blogs incl specific pieces, categorized. http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora [00:33]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [00:33]
mircea_popescu: a right hanbot , wiki prolly best source [00:33]
hanbot: mircea_popescu 3mn on that lbn here [00:35]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, 3 mn heard hanbot . ETA 17:00 ART [00:35]
Robespierre_: How to use keys? I think I'm in the exact claim my keys says in the coordinates, but cannot open it. [01:29]
mircea_popescu: right click on it, and select the lock thing [01:32]
mircea_popescu: looks like a door [01:32]
Robespierre_: Says I cannot open with with lockpicking.. Same message as before. [01:36]
mircea_popescu: so then you don't have the right claim [01:36]
Robespierre_: But I'm in the same coordinate as the key says! [01:36]
mircea_popescu: still. [01:37]
mircea_popescu: it's possible your key's claim may have disappeared. they do that - then the keys turn to lbn [01:37]
Robespierre_: 1bn? [01:37]
Robespierre_: Probably that happened then. [01:37]
mircea_popescu: little bit of nothing [01:38]
Robespierre_: So, I have lot's of keys.. What do I do with it? [01:38]
mircea_popescu: wait, basically. maybe relog. [01:38]
diana_coman: morning rowtan [03:11]
rowtan: good morning [03:12]
t2yax: hey there [05:45]
t2yax: i wanna make some exploration [05:53]
t2yax: but its just happening 1 times [05:53]
t2yax: how can i make it more [05:53]
t2yax: ahh logs .. [06:01]
t2yax: sry [06:01]
kunickis: Hello [06:32]
kunickis: Am from bitcointalk... I created GPG key but how to import it here? [06:32]
t2yax: m2 came from btctalk [06:33]
t2yax: i think i can help you [06:33]
kunickis: [06:33]
kunickis: How to import that key? [06:35]
t2yax: wait [06:35]
kunickis: oky] [06:35]
t2yax: unfortunately i cant find the command [06:37]
t2yax: but when they come here or become online [06:37]
t2yax: they will help you [06:37]
kunickis: GPGkey [06:37]
kunickis: But when i try it says [06:37]
kunickis: Import failed for [06:37]
t2yax: try this [06:37]
t2yax: &register deedbot !import YOURGPGKEY [06:37]
euporium: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. [06:37]
kunickis: In this chat? Or in deedbot? [06:38]
kunickis: Anyone please help? [06:41]
kunickis: 20users online and no one can answer. -,- [06:41]
diana_coman: hi kunickis [06:43]
diana_coman: check the wiki [06:44]
diana_coman: otherwise shinohai might help you too when around [06:44]
kunickis: Am trying to register my key in deedbot but its says that "Import failed for EE63E9D620B01BEB15D9DCADE842FF77212C97A5. " [06:44]
kunickis: Yh already writed him, waiting for answer. [06:44]
diana_coman: hm,is that the right fingerprint there? [06:45]
diana_coman: eulora is for the patient in any case [06:45]
kunickis: Yh it's right fingerprint. [06:46]
diana_coman: hm, maybe it takes a bit of time to propagate [06:48]
diana_coman: is it a freshly made key /freshly sent to servers? [06:49]
diana_coman: give it some 20 minutes [06:49]
kunickis: Nah that key i created week ago. [06:49]
kunickis: Sent to server? [06:49]
diana_coman: http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup see there [06:50]
lobbesbot: Title: Account Setup - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [06:50]
kunickis: I need to put in certificate code yh? [06:54]
kunickis: How long does it takes to be added in servers? [06:56]
kunickis: I can't understand that tutorial for Eluorum on windows... : [06:58]
kunickis: Does it have video tutorial too? [06:58]
kunickis: How to undestand this? 2. Install Service Pack 1 (it's mandatory, don't skip this step!). [06:59]
kunickis: Don't understand half of that tutorial. [07:02]
kunickis: Ok, key got registered.! [07:04]
kunickis: Ok am got that eulora game... now i need to register new account? or use that key ?? [07:12]
wyrdmantis: kunickis you have to ask mircea_popescu for account [07:19]
kunickis: Ohh okey. thanks ;) [07:19]
t2yax: hey there [08:41]
t2yax: hello all [08:41]
t2yax: mircea i've lost my password,can you help me ? [08:44]
shinohai: >later tell mircea_popescu got another player on standby when you arrive. [08:44]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [08:44]
mircea_popescu: heya [09:03]
mircea_popescu: awww he left ? [09:03]
mircea_popescu: ftr : i'm not going to be making accounts for people who ask and leave till they show up again. [09:03]
shinohai: t2yax LOST his login [09:04]
mircea_popescu: that must suck. [09:04]
shinohai: My other guy is kunickis, he is afk for a bit but will need account later upon return. [09:05]
thestringpuller: shinohai: come downtown today! [09:06]
thestringpuller: I'm hiding 0.5 BTC somewhere at the con in a paper wallet. [09:07]
shinohai: I might this evening thestringpuller - swamped today. You can just swing by my apartment and leave 0.5 BTC though :D [09:07]
thestringpuller: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [09:08]
thestringpuller: You better have like 3 kegs ready :P [09:08]
shinohai: I have a stash of moscato and some decent whiskey [09:08]
t2yax: mircea ? [09:08]
mircea_popescu: yeah ? [09:09]
t2yax: i've lost my password [09:09]
t2yax: :( [09:09]
mircea_popescu: how did you do that ? [09:09]
t2yax: format [09:09]
shinohai: Might be kinda important to email that doc to yourself in the future. [09:09]
t2yax: so \%appdata\% gone [09:09]
t2yax: but i have my gpg cert [09:09]
mircea_popescu: so decrypt the thing i sent you again [09:09]
t2yax: ok [09:10]
mircea_popescu: that was relatively painless. [09:10]
mircea_popescu: hey rowtan [09:10]
mircea_popescu: will make your acct in 2 mins [09:10]
rowtan: Nice, thanks [09:10]
kunickis: mircea. [09:16]
kunickis: Can I get account for eulora? [09:16]
mircea_popescu: rowtan http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/54ca3d52-14b5-4253-a4bf-5706c7633324/ [09:17]
mircea_popescu: kunickis yup one second [09:17]
kunickis: okey am waiting. [09:17]
rowtan: What do I do with that link? [09:18]
mircea_popescu: kunickis http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/11c598e6-6c3b-4a91-a666-ca45c168a50d/ [09:19]
mircea_popescu: rowtan you decrypt it with your pgp tool [09:19]
mircea_popescu: hey shinohai any luck on that click btw ? [09:19]
t2yax: mircea [09:20]
shinohai: Nope mircea_popescu did you pick up those screens? Cuz when I went back were gone. [09:20]
t2yax: i couldn't find it at log site [09:20]
shinohai: SO I guess I owe ya for that lol [09:20]
mircea_popescu: shinohai i did. want them back ? [09:20]
shinohai: Gimmie just a bit and I'll meet you in game and try [09:20]
shinohai: >.> [09:20]
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: ".>" is not a valid command. [09:20]
mircea_popescu: cool! [09:20]
mircea_popescu: dude you gotta fix this bot lmao [09:20]
mircea_popescu: t2yax well then you're screwed. [09:20]
kunickis: @rowtan use this for decrypt. ;) https://www.igolder.com/pgp/decryption/ [09:21]
mircea_popescu: kunickis pretty stupid idea. [09:21]
t2yax: ahh well [09:21]
shinohai: Lol, just hand me the keys to your house and car too [09:21]
t2yax: so dont i have a chance for recover ? [09:21]
mircea_popescu: nope. [09:21]
t2yax: so what should i do for opening an acct again ? [09:22]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, be born again ? [09:22]
kunickis: xD [09:22]
t2yax: ok [09:22]
shinohai: danielpbarron might can help you with the born-again part [09:22]
t2yax: since i dont know the system much [09:22]
t2yax: i can ask those questions i think [09:22]
mircea_popescu: lol. /me pictures daniel with a special temple where the sinners can be sacrificed and reborn. [09:23]
shinohai: :D [09:23]
diana_coman: t2yax, make yourself another nick + key and start again basicallyl [09:23]
mircea_popescu: t2yax this is crypto, you gotta take care of your things. which is why using random site like kunickis was suggesting is such a stupid idea. later on you'll need something and what do you do. [09:23]
t2yax: i will use google drive next time [09:23]
t2yax: sure . [09:23]
diana_coman: "This tool is simple to use: enter your private PGP key, your PGP passphrase" omg [09:24]
mircea_popescu: but it's SIMPLE [09:24]
shinohai: Did I just hear you seripously say "Google drive" ? [09:24]
diana_coman: ugh t2yax giving things to google is NOT taking care of your things [09:24]
mircea_popescu: ima link this in main, just too lulzy [09:24]
t2yax: no no [09:24]
t2yax: ah okay [09:24]
shinohai: considers going back to bed. [09:25]
diana_coman: you know t2yax taking care of YOUR things means just that: YOU (and only you) actually LOOK after them [09:25]
mircea_popescu: shinohai no no i need that click. [09:26]
t2yax: &register 1C20ADE23922B3803B64B4CD57803A1951151932 [09:27]
euporium: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. [09:27]
t2yax: &register deedbot 1C20ADE23922B3803B64B4CD57803A1951151932 [09:28]
euporium: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. [09:28]
t2yax: omg i forgot how to register [09:28]
mircea_popescu: use $ and tell it to deedbot [09:28]
t2yax: 1C20ADE23922B3803B64B4CD57803A1951151932 [09:29]
diana_coman: t2yax, and read again the wiki .... [09:29]
t2yax: i couldn't find something useful [09:30]
kunickis: mircea am on game but dont understand anything. [09:34]
t2yax: * deedbot hands you a broomstick. [09:34]
t2yax: deedbot hands you a broomstick ?? [09:34]
diana_coman: t2yax, it might be too difficult, you know [09:34]
rowtan: I'm having a little truouble, I'm running git bash should the command to decrypt be: gpg --decrypt , or is it something else? [09:35]
mircea_popescu: kunickis ok, what'd you like to understand ? [09:35]
mircea_popescu: rowtan plain gpg works as a command also [09:35]
mircea_popescu: what's git bash ? [09:35]
kunickis: how to start.. how to get that first 0.01btc. how to get quests. how to withdraw haha. checked all nothing found.. and quest 0 . : [09:35]
diana_coman: I think it's on windows... [09:36]
diana_coman: kunickis, did you use kleopatra? [09:36]
mircea_popescu: kunickis say hi i'm kunickis to me in game [09:36]
mircea_popescu: /t Mircea [09:36]
kunickis: diana_coman Yeah i used kleo. [09:36]
diana_coman: so decrypt with kleo [09:36]
diana_coman: ah sorry,it was for rowtan [09:36]
t2yax: diana it says import failed for my new fingerprint [09:36]
t2yax: what to do ? [09:36]
diana_coman: rowtan, if you are on windows: did you use kleopatra? use that for decrypt too [09:37]
mircea_popescu: kunickis alrighty, you got 0.01 btc. [09:37]
diana_coman: t2yax, make yourself a new nick and then follow what the wiki says here: http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup [09:37]
lobbesbot: Title: Account Setup - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [09:37]
mircea_popescu: would you like some tasks to earn another ? [09:37]
kunickis: sure. [09:37]
rowtan: I'll try kleopatra [09:38]
mircea_popescu: alright, come meet me in game. i'll give you a mining claim for you to dig up, then you have to transport the results to town. you gotta do two for another bitcent. [09:38]
mircea_popescu: i'm at 66 42 300 [09:38]
kunickis: And how ti find you? [09:38]
mircea_popescu: just gave you my coords [09:38]
kunickis: And where to see in which cords am now? [09:39]
diana_coman: kunickis, type /pos [09:39]
mircea_popescu: can also use /point ; this stuff is on the wiki you know ? [09:39]
shinohai: Is it normal to see translucent walls like this? http://i.imgur.com/ItsH1bM.jpg?1 [09:39]
kunickis: Oh didnt see it. [09:39]
diana_coman: shinohai, graphics still needs a lot of work, yeah [09:39]
kunickis: Ok will try to fidn you haha ;d [09:39]
diana_coman: there are some funny effects at times [09:39]
shinohai: kk just checking, I still got to find the chetty grafix fix in the logs, I should have noted it. [09:40]
mircea_popescu: i never saw that ?! [09:40]
diana_coman: I did [09:40]
mircea_popescu: weird, and wtf is with the ground [09:40]
mircea_popescu: broken shaders ? it dun look anything liek that for me! [09:40]
mircea_popescu: is starting to discover client works perfect ~on his system only~! OMG WELL DONE TEAM!!1 [09:41]
shinohai: lolz [09:41]
mircea_popescu: the results of tyranny! should have known! etc! [09:41]
mircea_popescu: kunickis i think i just saw you pass me by :D [09:42]
kunickis: ho :D [09:42]
kunickis: oh* [09:42]
shinohai: What's weird is I watch HD movies on this all the time, not a single problem or skip, so this has to be some config issue on my part. [09:42]
mircea_popescu: im the guy with the talbe, come trade me [09:42]
mircea_popescu: shinohai maybe the client's just borkt, we'll have to look into it [09:42]
shinohai: ftr this occurs on my build from yesterday AND jurov's .deb too [09:43]
kunickis: mircea_popescu am here. [09:43]
mircea_popescu: trade me (right click) [09:43]
mircea_popescu: oops again please [09:43]
kunickis: you need to target container. [09:44]
kunickis: what is that? [09:44]
mircea_popescu: you were prolly trying to craft or something, dunno [09:44]
diana_coman: shinohai, do you mean you were in game before and it looked fine? [09:45]
kunickis: Am clicking right click and getting "container" [09:45]
mircea_popescu: kunickis you're prolly hitting the sticks, try and hit me [09:45]
t2max: mircea [09:45]
mircea_popescu: the sticks are mining claims [09:45]
t2max: i've registered [09:45]
shinohai: Nah, I have never been able to play much, you can sit and click until kingdom come and my guy never moves a centimeter forward [09:46]
kunickis: Ok. whats next? [09:46]
mircea_popescu: ok, so now kunickis : go to electron, buy one ordinary clump of dry grass bundle ; then go to where the key says coords, open the claim, put the enum in your mind and mine it. [09:46]
mircea_popescu: then bring the stuff it makes to me in town. [09:46]
diana_coman: shinohai, why /how is that? do you have low fps too or what? [09:46]
mircea_popescu: shinohai afaik it's wasd, what click ? [09:46]
shinohai: That's what I meant, using the control arrows. It does seem as diana_coman suggests a fps thing [09:47]
t2max: guys [09:47]
t2max: i've registered [09:47]
mircea_popescu: lol hang on [09:47]
kunickis: mircea_popescu where is electron hehe? :D [09:47]
mircea_popescu: hill behind me [09:48]
mircea_popescu: around 160 50 160 [09:48]
kunickis: oh okey. [09:48]
mircea_popescu: t2max apparently you haven't. [09:49]
t2max: because of attempting with t2yax ? [09:50]
t2max: because i exported [09:50]
t2max: after i tried to register [09:50]
mircea_popescu: because deedbot doesn't see you. [09:50]
mircea_popescu: o wait, you still have your key ? [09:51]
shinohai: remember to upload your key to keyserver [09:51]
t2max: i've exported [09:51]
t2max: to server [09:51]
shinohai: Not the same thing [09:51]
shinohai: oh ok [09:51]
shinohai: well give it a few minutes to propagate [09:51]
mircea_popescu: t2max listen man. do you still have the pgp key from last time! [09:51]
t2max: yes i have [09:52]
t2max: it [09:52]
mircea_popescu: oh! [09:52]
mircea_popescu: one second. [09:52]
mircea_popescu: t2max http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/c10cebf7-3ab1-4a3f-a320-816b2370ccb4/ [09:54]
kunickis: mircea_popescu Can i put coordinates that showing on screen? Or i need every time write /pos ? [09:56]
t2max: well [09:56]
t2max: this key was about t2yax [09:56]
t2max: and i've removed its cert very short time ago [09:57]
t2max: :@ myself [09:57]
mircea_popescu: kunickis no coord box yet i don't think [09:57]
kunickis: mircea_popescu ohh okey. [09:57]
t2max: so you should create me a new acct mircea :( [09:57]
mircea_popescu: o.O [09:57]
t2max: with t2max key [09:57]
mircea_popescu: listen : this game is not for you. please don't come back. [09:58]
kunickis: you to mee? [09:58]
mircea_popescu: no, the t2* dude [09:58]
kunickis: oh okey. [09:58]
kunickis: oh i dead... [10:01]
kunickis: what to do now? [10:01]
mircea_popescu: doesn't do anything yet, just wait. [10:01]
kunickis: oh thanks./ [10:02]
mircea_popescu: eventually it will be a big deal, but not just yet. [10:02]
kunickis: mircea_popescu Am almost there.. i need to mine what? stone? [10:05]
mircea_popescu: well what it says on the enum. grass iirc? [10:05]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, 3 mn heard hanbot . ETA 17:00 ART << bout 6 hours [10:06]
kunickis: oh i forgot to open the claim... [10:06]
kunickis: when i come to cords that key says am all time die... : [10:07]
mircea_popescu: well pick an alternate path what [10:07]
kunickis: i dont understand "open the claim" where and what to open? : sorry am bad in english [10:08]
mircea_popescu: go to the coordinates, there's a stick there. you right-click on it and there's a door like icon [10:08]
kunickis: i need to go 252 48 -141 but am at 252 48 -119 how to be in -141 ? am tryng to go to all sides but then chacning all numbers... : [10:12]
mircea_popescu: well... it's a game, right ? have to figure it out, that's what it's for. [10:13]
kunickis: Thats coordinates is insane to get! -,- All time when i am almost there i felling down from hill and dieing... -,- [10:16]
mircea_popescu: can you go around ? [10:16]
mircea_popescu: they can't be too hard, after all someone had to mine there to get it. [10:16]
kunickis: And again died. haha. ;D [10:18]
mircea_popescu: cheers [10:18]
shinohai: kunickis may set some sort of record for most times dying in single session. [10:20]
kunickis: shinohai My coordinates is in hill where can't get... all time when am almost there at that - coordinate am sliding down hill and dying -,- [10:21]
mircea_popescu: go around ? [10:21]
shinohai: Patience young padawan [10:21]
kunickis: How around? If i need to go a little bit down.. when i go only one step am sliding down. [10:22]
mircea_popescu: you know, around. like come from other direction. [10:22]
mircea_popescu: shinohai so am i giving you these screens ? [10:22]
shinohai: I gotta come back, was searching eulora logs for that hack [10:23]
mircea_popescu: oh chet's ? one sec [10:23]
shinohai: curses non-greppable logz [10:24]
mircea_popescu: Sep 01 17:34:07 <danielpbarron> see also : http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-21.log.html#t16:27:06 [10:24]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Tuesday, 2015-07-21 (at logs.minigame.bz) [10:25]
mircea_popescu: and yeah, really needs a grep function. as well as proper title readout. wtf does this do "title - eulora log". read the line! [10:25]
shinohai: thx mircea_popescu [10:25]
mircea_popescu: np. [10:25]
shinohai: saves this link so he won't lose again [10:26]
mircea_popescu: oh and also shinohai : don't do too much noob handholding going forward. very nice job you've done so far, but enough's enough. from now on just point them at , there's the key links in there to wiki and log, and let them figure it out. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: elitism is elitism after all. [10:26]
shinohai: Yeah, I plan on getting that guide together and up on my site this weekend [10:27]
mircea_popescu: also good. [10:27]
shinohai: Because shinohai wants to play some too lol [10:27]
mircea_popescu: lol. [10:27]
kunickis: nooooooo. i was almost there and again slide down and died -,- [10:28]
mircea_popescu: ;/ [10:29]
mircea_popescu: do you see it ? a stick with an inverted cone on top of it [10:29]
mircea_popescu: comes over to check this wonder out. [10:30]
mircea_popescu: kunickis what coords did you say ? 252 48 -141 ? [10:30]
kunickis: yeah. [10:30]
kunickis: nah there is not any stick [10:30]
mircea_popescu: ima brt. [10:31]
kunickis: m? [10:31]
mircea_popescu: hm... no stick here... [10:32]
kunickis: yh... i said.. [10:32]
mircea_popescu: this is pretty odd... ok kunickis meet me back in town ima give you a diff key. [10:32]
kunickis: ok [10:32]
mircea_popescu: weird shit. [10:32]
kunickis: I said haha. ;D [10:33]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what happened here, this is like a first. [10:33]
kunickis: umm what was your cords? ma lost haha [10:35]
kunickis: am* [10:35]
mircea_popescu: 160 x 160 like [10:35]
mircea_popescu: you coming kunickis ? [10:39]
kunickis: wait where are you ?? there where you give me key?? 66 42 300 or wherei electron? [10:39]
mircea_popescu: close to electron yes [10:39]
mircea_popescu: like 160 50 160 or so [10:39]
kunickis: ... i went to that coordinates where you give me all haha [10:39]
kunickis: :D [10:39]
mircea_popescu: ah ok. nah im here in "town" [10:39]
rowtan: What to do if running eulora.bat just runs a cmd.exe that doesn't do anything else? (game won't start at all) [10:40]
mircea_popescu: rowtan see log, starting here : [10:40]
mircea_popescu: gl kunickis [10:41]
kunickis: thanks ;) [10:41]
mircea_popescu: gah where was that. [10:42]
rowtan: do I install an older client version or is it another solution? [10:42]
rowtan: *extract or whatever [10:42]
mircea_popescu: Sep 02 14:22:17 <mihi> my final .bat file looks like this, so it will look up script directory, and will pause if an error occurs: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/527c545f-1b72-45ce-8a8f-442f8941ca4b/ [10:42]
mircea_popescu: see that, see if it reports any error ? [10:42]
mircea_popescu: one other person reported something similar yest, we couldn't quite pin it down. [10:43]
mircea_popescu: that if errorlevel 1 pause thing makes you able to read error message if any. [10:43]
rowtan: I get a lot of directories, but nothing mentioing an error [10:44]
mircea_popescu: hm [10:44]
mircea_popescu: do you have a gfx card, are drivers up to date ? [10:45]
rowtan: hm no they aren't tbh [10:45]
kunickis: Found hehe [10:46]
kunickis: You unlocked... [10:46]
kunickis: What was next to do when i claim? [10:46]
shinohai: Commenting out that xml results in: [10:50]
shinohai: eulora.application.client: [10:50]
shinohai: euEngine initialized. [10:50]
shinohai: Sat Sep 3 10:47:58 2016, <src/client/modehandler.cpp:204 LoadLightingLevels SEVERE> [10:50]
shinohai: Sat Sep 3 10:47:58 2016, Cannot load /planeshift/world/lighting.xml [10:50]
shinohai: Sat Sep 3 10:47:58 2016, <src/client/psengine.cpp:625 Initialize SEVERE> [10:50]
shinohai: Sat Sep 3 10:47:58 2016, FATAL ERROR: ModeHandler failed init. [10:50]
shinohai: AL lib: (EE) alc_cleanup: 1 device not closed [10:50]
shinohai: ./eu.sh: line 3: 8891 Segmentation fault ./euclient [10:50]
kunickis: shin do you know what do to next? mircea said me to go to key coordinates.. i found that sitkc and unlocked... what next you know? [10:51]
shinohai: I do not know kunickis he will likely have to give you further instructions upon return. [10:52]
kunickis: and what to do now? :/ [10:52]
kunickis: and where i can withdraw my earnings? [10:52]
mircea_popescu: kunickis put the bundle you bought in the stick, the enum in your brain and click the finger button [10:52]
mircea_popescu: and would you like btc or ecu ? [10:53]
mircea_popescu: shinohai just restart it [10:53]
shinohai: Does the same and stops, will revert *sigh* [10:54]
rowtan: mircae here's what showed up after I ran eulora.bat (I didn't type in anything, and I can't add text to it either) http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/52212a79-21fc-46b4-b8bd-e03774b5763d/ [10:54]
mircea_popescu: shinohai you prolly commented too much/too little i'd guess. [10:54]
kunickis: i put bundle in ... wich enum in my brain? [10:54]
mircea_popescu: rowtan gotta give your user permissions on that file. [10:54]
mircea_popescu: kunickis clump of dry grass enumeration [10:54]
rowtan: as in admin permission? I already am though [10:55]
mircea_popescu: well if you can't edit it... [10:55]
kunickis: I think am stupid :? I put in that bundle but dont get any enum or smth. xD [10:55]
mircea_popescu: i gave you the enum. it's like a scroll. [10:55]
kunickis: where you gave? in this chat or ingame? :D [10:57]
mircea_popescu: in game. [10:57]
kunickis: ahh you think that book? [10:58]
mircea_popescu: yep [10:58]
kunickis: Combine 15elusive.... whuut? :D [10:58]
mircea_popescu: nevermind, you have the bundle already. [10:58]
kunickis: Ok and whats now? ;D [10:59]
mircea_popescu: click the finger button [10:59]
kunickis: what is "finger button" ? :D [10:59]
kunickis: sorry.. am bad in english haha [10:59]
mircea_popescu: first button on left side of claim window [10:59]
kunickis: i dont have any claim windows.. [11:00]
kunickis: window* [11:00]
mircea_popescu: so open the claim omfg. [11:00]
kunickis: where to open it omg? -,- :D [11:00]
kunickis: In that stick? [11:00]
kunickis: Or what?? -,- [11:00]
mircea_popescu: yes, the stick is the claim [11:01]
diana_coman: kunickis, http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/ [11:01]
shinohai: http://ix.io/1jDG <<< example of how I commented lines. [11:02]
kunickis: ok am in that container... [11:02]
shinohai: This, as far as I see, is according to recipe ? [11:02]
kunickis: am opening that container... putting in that bundle... and whats next? -,- wtf is that fringerprint? -,- [11:03]
mircea_popescu: kunickis take your time, read up on the game, figure out how to do this. [11:04]
mircea_popescu: and keep the claim locked while you do all that, because unlocked claims disappear. [11:04]
kunickis: but i can't understand this step. -,- [11:04]
mircea_popescu: well, it's not for everyone. [11:04]
kunickis: you said me to put in that bundle [11:04]
diana_coman: kunickis, read the link I gave you [11:04]
kunickis: I putted it in... [11:05]
mircea_popescu: shinohai i have nfi how xml commenting works. [11:06]
shinohai: <!-- --> [11:06]
shinohai: works for me [11:06]
mircea_popescu: so then where's the closed tag ? [11:06]
shinohai: --> is close [11:06]
mircea_popescu: /meshgen--> ? [11:07]
shinohai: yup [11:07]
mircea_popescu: hm [11:07]
kunickis: mircea_popescu all fingers that is showing there is... "use the container" "take and stack all" "take all" ... and diana_coman I read that all and for that claim I do all but about wtf "fingerprint" not writted there.. -,- [11:07]
mircea_popescu: i never used this ; but iirc hanbot got it running, mebbe she can explain [11:07]
mircea_popescu: kunickis dude really. it's a button, push it. [11:08]
kunickis: i pusshing all buttons... all is with red text... [11:08]
diana_coman: lolz; fingerprint is the finger button I suppose, the one for use the container kunickis [11:08]
kunickis: 1. This Claim is used.... [11:08]
diana_coman: o.o [11:09]
mircea_popescu: wanna bet he didn't lock the claim, also ? [11:09]
kunickis: I locked it. -,- [11:09]
mircea_popescu: well that's good, at least it won't run away. [11:09]
diana_coman: he says it's used [11:09]
mircea_popescu: no ? [11:09]
diana_coman: <kunickis> 1. This Claim is used.... [11:09]
kunickis: When I press "Use the container" i got red text center of screen "This claim has been used" [11:10]
mircea_popescu: o.O [11:10]
mircea_popescu: so then you mined it ? [11:10]
kunickis: How much time to say that repeatlity... [11:10]
mircea_popescu: this is the first time you said it comprehensibly. [11:10]
mircea_popescu: do you still have the bundle ? [11:10]
kunickis: yh.. in that claim. [11:10]
kunickis: container* [11:11]
mircea_popescu: goes to see THIS wonder also. wtf is with this guy, he's been blessed by the gods. [11:11]
mircea_popescu: what coords kunickis ? [11:11]
kunickis: -221 50 -155 [11:11]
mircea_popescu: omw [11:11]
kunickis: m? [11:12]
mircea_popescu: on my way. omw. [11:12]
mircea_popescu: kunickis gimme the enum and key back plox [11:13]
mircea_popescu: sigh. trade me. [11:13]
mircea_popescu: now step a little back [11:14]
mircea_popescu: more than that [11:14]
mircea_popescu: how the fuck did that happen. [11:15]
kunickis: and what i trying to say you that i already pressed all but nothing. -,- [11:15]
mircea_popescu: yeah but you gotta be precise :) [11:15]
kunickis: then what to do now? [11:16]
mircea_popescu: try that one. they're all around here, i'll sit with you [11:16]
shinohai: lol I got pm from banned guy "Please unban me I almost got it!" [11:16]
mircea_popescu: is following kunickis around [11:17]
mircea_popescu: feels a little drunk from the exercise :D [11:18]
diana_coman: is laughing out loud [11:18]
shinohai: imagines "So happy together" playing in the background. [11:19]
mircea_popescu: lol [11:19]
mircea_popescu: it's not even a little bit gay! [11:19]
mircea_popescu: i'm just behind him that's all. [11:19]
kunickis: item cannot be added to that container because container is guarded... [11:20]
kunickis: umm? [11:20]
mircea_popescu: maybe i was too close. try now ? [11:20]
kunickis: you start work 1.... [11:21]
kunickis: something is loading. [11:21]
mircea_popescu: ha! welldone! [11:21]
mircea_popescu: ok, when finished bring it to me in town. [11:21]
kunickis: finally. okey. ;) [11:21]
mircea_popescu: you never said, did you want to be paid in btc or ecu ? [11:21]
kunickis: in btc. ;) [11:22]
mircea_popescu: post addy [11:22]
kunickis: 1K6Gx6cWL3QgAUVkZLy7oWoLumvBNFL99t [11:23]
mircea_popescu: aite. will be 2 bitcents once you're done with this claim and another one. [11:23]
kunickis: oh thanks. :) [11:23]
kunickis: and another? [11:24]
mircea_popescu: yes, you get 1 bitcent for saying hi to me ; and 1 more bitcent after you deliver two claims. [11:24]
kunickis: oh okey. [11:25]
mircea_popescu: and there may be other jobs in the future ; and not just from me. iirc danielpbarron was looking to hire a noob too [11:25]
kunickis: hah. okey. ;D [11:25]
kunickis: so i can all time ask you for job and you will give? [11:27]
mircea_popescu: well, depends. just like irl, if there's a job to do. [11:28]
kunickis: oh okey. [11:28]
kunickis: you struggle under the weight of your inventory and must drop something... umm what? [11:29]
mircea_popescu: it's too heavy. take as much as you can carry ; leave rest behind (lock the claim) [11:30]
kunickis: i need to remember my coordiantes? [11:31]
kunickis: coordinates* [11:31]
mircea_popescu: btw shinohai one idea maybe worth trying : have you tried making game full screen ? does it help ? [11:31]
mircea_popescu: kunickis sure, write them down. [11:31]
kunickis: umm my game stucked? i can't move. -,- [11:32]
shinohai: nah, exhibits same behavior. [11:32]
kunickis: i can click on all but cant move. [11:32]
mircea_popescu: you're overweighted. [11:32]
shinohai: welcome to club [11:32]
kunickis: how can i know how much i can take? [11:32]
mircea_popescu: open inventory says wegiht up right [11:33]
mircea_popescu: like 100 400 or such [11:33]
mircea_popescu: right click on stacks it tells you how much they weight [11:33]
kunickis: oh only 470 haha i got 15600. -,- [11:33]
mircea_popescu: o.* [11:33]
kunickis: something went wrong with game... i now see me from top... [11:37]
kunickis: OHH fixed... which coordinates was town? [11:38]
mircea_popescu: you prolly changed camera angle. [11:38]
mircea_popescu: 160 50 160 [11:38]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you willing to trade high q grass for mid q cft ? [11:41]
kunickis: micrea_popescu am here... [11:42]
kunickis: what to do now? [11:42]
mircea_popescu: trade me kuni [11:42]
diana_coman: hm, what markups do you have in mind there? [11:42]
kunickis: mircea_popescu whats now? [11:43]
mircea_popescu: keep going till you brought it all. [11:43]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman 150/180 sorta thing. [11:44]
diana_coman: could work; what do you have in mind as mid q cft and high q grass respectively? [11:46]
mircea_popescu: well, low 100s as mid ; over 200 as high ? or what do you get mining ? [11:46]
diana_coman: I just made my high q grass into cft given the almost total lack of cft supply otherwise [11:46]
mircea_popescu: this is the problem i'm here to solve. [11:46]
diana_coman: let's give it a try; what cft do you have for this? [11:47]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [11:48]
diana_coman: (trouble there is ofc that one can't get only grass unless either cs or otherwise kind of throwing away tools ) [11:48]
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, 3 mn heard hanbot . ETA 17:00 ART << bout 4 hours. :D [11:48]
diana_coman: what stock of cft do you want to start with, to give this arrangement a spin? [11:48]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, a stack ? ten ? [11:48]
diana_coman: well, those sp of yours are both expensive and kind of suck [11:48]
mircea_popescu: whatever you got lol. [11:48]
diana_coman: well, I need to get the cft and go mine for grass, no? or how else is this supposed to go? [11:49]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman wait, i dun want cft. i want cdg! [11:49]
diana_coman: yes, precisely, lol [11:49]
diana_coman: *I* want the cft [11:49]
mircea_popescu: oh, yeah. ok should be like 800 cft in about 20 mins. [11:49]
diana_coman: to go and get you grass [11:49]
mircea_popescu: that work ? [11:49]
diana_coman: works [11:49]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [11:49]
mircea_popescu: congratulates himself on having saved some [11:50]
diana_coman: looking in my stores, I even found 1k of 141q cft [11:51]
mircea_popescu: now you can just go use it all! [11:51]
diana_coman: lol [11:51]
mircea_popescu: for srs. [11:51]
diana_coman: yeah, well, I was onto experimenting with getting it higher and higher in q in the idea that it gets higher oc on smalls too [11:52]
diana_coman: hoping to pop at some point [11:52]
diana_coman: also I kind of haven't really seen ords in a while, even with tools [11:52]
diana_coman: basic tools though [11:52]
mircea_popescu: i got like 30+ in 250 picks [11:53]
mircea_popescu: you know, the shitty picks :D [11:53]
diana_coman: must be you are low skilled enough to get ords :D [11:53]
mircea_popescu: fuck. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: this game is so unfair. [11:53]
diana_coman: anyways, fine if I just go now and we make the exchange cft/cdg whatever it is, later? [11:54]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you are in heaven and i am in hell! [11:54]
mircea_popescu: but sure, just ping me. [11:54]
diana_coman: ahahaha, for everyone according to their needs and all that [11:54]
mircea_popescu: your blonde skills fill me with jelious raye. [11:55]
diana_coman: lol [11:55]
kunickis: mircea_popescu accept trade.. [11:57]
kunickis: hello? [11:59]
kunickis: -,- [11:59]
mircea_popescu: aha [12:00]
shinohai: Any Windows experts around that can help rowtan ? http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/52212a79-21fc-46b4-b8bd-e03774b5763d/ [12:00]
shinohai: oh seems he already asked [12:01]
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah the idea is he gotta add that pause line in there, and see if any error pops up [12:02]
rowtan: you mean I copy everything here http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/54ca3d52-14b5-4253-a4bf-5706c7633324/ word for word into the batch file? [12:03]
rowtan: wait [12:04]
rowtan: this http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/527c545f-1b72-45ce-8a8f-442f8941ca4b/ ? [12:04]
mircea_popescu: rowtan yeah. [12:05]
rowtan: didn't work, still hanging with nothing happening [12:07]
mircea_popescu: so in the cmd where you opened the bat, it says nothing ? [12:08]
rowtan: wait 1 sec, had to edit it slightky [12:08]
rowtan: *slightly [12:08]
mircea_popescu: i'm not in any rush. [12:08]
kunickis: can i run in this game haha? [12:10]
mircea_popescu: yup\ [12:10]
kunickis: how? : [12:10]
mircea_popescu: on my set-up, i press T. but see in the settings, you can map keys [12:10]
kunickis: oh thanks! [12:11]
mircea_popescu: :) [12:12]
rowtan: If I try it exactly like here http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/527c545f-1b72-45ce-8a8f-442f8941ca4b/ it still hangs, if I change cd /D to cd C/ I get http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d50140a4-eda7-46c3-b124-090b437bdf39/ [12:15]
rowtan: */C [12:15]
kunickis: accept trade [12:15]
mircea_popescu: faster now huh [12:15]
kunickis: heh [12:16]
mircea_popescu: rowtan yeah i dunno. i have no idea what'd cause this. you can try updating your gfx drivers if that fixes it ; you can also try a linux [12:17]
mircea_popescu: alternatively, if you have msvc you could get the code and compile it locally see what happens. [12:18]
kunickis: accept trade [12:19]
mircea_popescu: beat you to it haha [12:20]
kunickis: :D [12:20]
mircea_popescu: lol [12:20]
mircea_popescu: hey shinohai ? [12:23]
kunickis: mircea_popescu done! [12:25]
mircea_popescu: all done ? nice! [12:25]
kunickis: yh. [12:25]
mircea_popescu: trade me for next 1 [12:25]
mircea_popescu: this time ytou get shiny rock bundle [12:25]
kunickis: he oky. [12:26]
kunickis: heh* [12:26]
mircea_popescu: 470 [12:26]
kunickis: m? [12:27]
mircea_popescu: typo. [12:27]
mircea_popescu: hm who's inigo ? [12:38]
kunickis: i was afk... and I forgot to buy bundle haha :D found that cointainer but now need to run back to buy bundle haha :D [12:39]
mircea_popescu: lol [12:39]
kunickis: i put in shiny rock bundle and that receipt.. but getting again red ""what do you have in mind to build?" [12:46]
kunickis: oh no all is ok [12:46]
mircea_popescu: :p [12:47]
kunickis: forgot to add receipt in mind haha. put it in container. ok waiting loading haha ;D [12:47]
mircea_popescu: are you having fun yet ? [12:47]
kunickis: yh. nice game. [12:47]
kunickis: like it. [12:47]
mircea_popescu: cool [12:47]
kunickis: at start think that hard.. but now starting understand. :D [12:47]
mircea_popescu: it makes sense in its own way [12:48]
kunickis: yh. [12:48]
kunickis: this bundle will take more time aghh ;d [12:57]
kunickis: accept [12:58]
jurov: shinohai, change camera angle, it shows translucent walls in first person mode [13:00]
mircea_popescu: oh that's what it is. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: really shinohai diana_coman : it's the model that's no good. once that's fixed it'll go away. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: jurov you have any idea what to do about these silent deaths on windows ? 2 diff people reporting by now [13:03]
kunickis: mircea trade [13:03]
mircea_popescu: too slow kunickis :D [13:03]
kunickis: haha. :D [13:03]
kunickis: mircea_popescu run not working no more... i set it too to T ... it was worked but for now when i press T i go slower.. :/ [13:06]
jurov: debug in the debugger [13:06]
mircea_popescu: well it toggles walk/run [13:06]
mircea_popescu: jurov is there anything like gcc / bt native in windoze ? [13:06]
kunickis: trade [13:08]
jurov: mircea_popescu: there's "mingw" windows gcc port.. but porting to that needs alf-level expertise [13:10]
mircea_popescu: ic. [13:10]
kunickis: can i upgrade my weight? [13:10]
mircea_popescu: so how do windows people debug ? [13:10]
mircea_popescu: kunickis not so far. [13:10]
jurov: with visual studio/windbg [13:10]
kunickis: uhh sad. [13:10]
kunickis: trade [13:12]
mircea_popescu: well so basically, the idea is once someone competent stumbles in, to get him to windbg the thing see what the finds ? [13:13]
jurov: set CRYSTAL=C:\Eurlora\cs << there's one r more [13:13]
jurov: ^ was from http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t16:00:52 [13:14]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-09-03 (at logs.minigame.bz) [13:14]
jurov: double checks the 7z file ..no that one is correct [13:15]
jurov: so, this looks like HIMEN.SYS failure [13:16]
mircea_popescu: that still exists ?! [13:16]
kunickis: trade [13:16]
jurov: heh, just a reference to a history - spurious hard to see typo [13:17]
mircea_popescu: what's the typo ? [13:18]
jurov: C:\EuRlora [13:18]
mircea_popescu: holy shit lmao [13:18]
mircea_popescu: rowtan : take that extra r out and report ? [13:18]
mircea_popescu: i mean epot [13:18]
shinohai: How *do* I change my camera angle? [13:20]
mircea_popescu: M on my setup [13:20]
jurov: shinohai: with M key [13:20]
shinohai: ah got it thx [13:20]
kunickis: trade [13:20]
kunickis: trade [13:26]
kunickis: I think i will never take to you that all rock. -,- I can only take 1k with one time.. and there is 63k more. -,- [13:28]
kunickis: And run not working for me now. -,- [13:28]
mircea_popescu: try relogging for the run maybe ? [13:28]
mircea_popescu: 14:11 <kunickis> trade 14:15 kunickis> trade so you're doing one run in four minutes, 60 runs = four hours. [13:29]
kunickis: omg. 4hours... [13:29]
mircea_popescu: better than faucets worse than flipping burgers i guess. [13:29]
kunickis: yh but 0.005 for 4hours don't know. and its only start, what will be later? haha :D [13:30]
kunickis: nah, relloged but run don't work. [13:30]
kunickis: Are you mining bitcoins with that game? [13:33]
kunickis: CPU 50\% fuck that.. -,- [13:33]
shinohai: lol srsly? [13:34]
kunickis: Yeah... look task manager.. [13:34]
kunickis: mircea_popescu trade [13:34]
shinohai: I don't think anyone here is desperate enough to cpu mine for bitcoinz [13:35]
kunickis: this game is not too good to eat 50\% CPU haha. [13:35]
kunickis: It's mining 100\% [13:35]
shinohai: I have 0 cpu issues, just fps stuff or whatever [13:36]
kunickis: because your co-owner ? -,- and your saying it to me to dont worry? hah... [13:36]
kunickis: why now mircea_popescu not answering? -,- [13:36]
shinohai: I'm not co-owner lol [13:36]
kunickis: mircea_popescu How to withdraw for now? [13:37]
mihi: kunickis, fwiw it is also killing one core for me, but pretty sure it is not cpu mining, but prolly misses some sleep/yield/select calls somewhere... [13:38]
kunickis: mihi okey.. but how to withdraw for now my earned btc? [13:39]
mihi: tried to reduce the fps in the menu, but did not help. Anyway, got my first 0.01 and that's enough for me beta testing this pre-alpha quality software [13:39]
kunickis: Yh on bitcointalk said that i can get 0.005 every hour... but for now i can get that 0.005 every 4hours. lel.. half a day today played and got 0.015 ok its not bad but anyway how to withdraw for now? [13:40]
mihi: I asked mircea_popescu, but it seems from the wiki you can also ask a Mr. Goldskull ingame [13:40]
mihi: not sure if that is a NPC or just some bored person :D [13:40]
jurov: Goldskull is me [13:41]
kunickis: jurov how to withdraw ? [13:41]
mihi: ah goldskull and MSVC ninja-wannabe :D [13:41]
jurov: We'll meet ingame, you give me coppers and I send coins [13:41]
kunickis: and how much coppers is worth? : [13:42]
jurov: 1 copper = 1 satoshi [13:43]
kunickis: wtf are you kidding me? So i earned only 0.001btc for half day? [13:43]
mircea_popescu: trade ? [13:44]
kunickis: mircea_popescu wtf so how much i earned?? [13:44]
jurov: That's between you an mircea_popescu. Maybe he uses another exchange rate, I was not following [13:44]
kunickis: only 0.001 for half a day played?? [13:44]
mircea_popescu: kunickis 0.01 for saying hi aaaand once you deliver this, another 0.01 [13:44]
kunickis: So for now i earned 0.015 ? [13:44]
mircea_popescu: mno. you gotta do both to get a bitcent. there's no 0.005 [13:45]
kunickis: than you are lying on btalk? -,- There said 0.005btc/hour. so i will earned that 0.005 in four hours? [13:45]
mircea_popescu: well, how much time you take is entirely up to you. [13:46]
mircea_popescu: the figure's an average. [13:46]
kunickis: avarage? lel how can i run to my container and get back within 1minute? haha its impossible. -,- [13:46]
mircea_popescu: not really. [13:46]
kunickis: i wanna withdraw for now what i earned. [13:47]
kunickis: how to do it? [13:47]
mircea_popescu: there's a lot to learn / a lot of tricks and subtlety to this game [13:47]
mircea_popescu: ill send you your bitcent momentarily. [13:47]
kunickis: ok. [13:47]
shinohai: Well you can always go back to the comforting predictability of faucets if this isn't for you. [13:47]
mircea_popescu: you wanna give me back the key to the claim ? you done trying for the 2nd ? [13:47]
kunickis: No i will do it later. [13:47]
mircea_popescu: aite. [13:47]
kunickis: Yh you think i will do half a job and end with it haha no -,- [13:48]
kunickis: what means "aite"? -,- [13:49]
mircea_popescu: hey, up to you what. [13:49]
mircea_popescu: aite = alright. [13:49]
kunickis: heh, oky. how long you will be online? for example if you will not be online what to do me with that claim? [13:50]
mircea_popescu: i'm usually online. [13:50]
mircea_popescu: but yes, this is a good time to mine it seeing how i'm right here. [13:50]
mircea_popescu: mihi actually, dealing with the ecu-btc trades is a job ; you know, like getting a bank license. jurov currently got it. [13:52]
kunickis: but if your offline then i don't have job yh? [13:52]
mircea_popescu: well, you could also make a claim right here by me, keep its key and move stuff to it. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: that'd work with me offline just as well. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: then when i show up you can just deliver. [13:53]
kunickis: but how can i trade with you if you offline? [13:53]
mircea_popescu: you can't ; but you can move the stuff. [13:54]
kunickis: how? [13:54]
kunickis: move the stuff to where? [13:54]
mircea_popescu: see, claims are produced through mining. you can in principle end up with one anywhere. such as right here in town. [13:55]
kunickis: but i dont understand... where to put it? -,- [13:56]
mircea_popescu: what it ? [13:56]
kunickis: for example for now rock. [13:56]
kunickis: i am trading it with you but where to put it when you offline? [13:56]
mircea_popescu: do you see these claims right next to me here ? [13:56]
kunickis: wait will turn game on [13:57]
shinohai: In latvia, rok is potato, no kunickis ? [13:57]
kunickis: ? [13:57]
mircea_popescu: btw shinohai : ima have to ask for those thangs back, gotta do that click myself. [13:57]
shinohai: kk I'm in town [13:58]
mircea_popescu: trrrade me. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: kunickis see, the stick to my left ? [13:58]
kunickis: yh [13:58]
mircea_popescu: so that's a claim ; just like the one you're mining. if you make a claim of your own right here ; and keep the key to it [13:58]
mircea_popescu: then you can move rocks from the one away to the one here, keep them locked [13:58]
mircea_popescu: when i come on just give them over [13:58]
kunickis: but how to get this claim key? [13:59]
mircea_popescu: /explore [13:59]
mircea_popescu: sometimes you get lucky and find something\ [13:59]
kunickis: thats is not a exploration tool ... i got that error. [13:59]
mircea_popescu: what's in your hand ? [13:59]
kunickis: nothing? [14:00]
mircea_popescu: hm. [14:00]
mircea_popescu: tell you what, trade me and i'll give you a free pickaxe. you can use that. [14:00]
mircea_popescu: lemme just finish with shinohai first [14:00]
kunickis: olk [14:00]
mircea_popescu: and read up about the bot [14:00]
kunickis: ? [14:01]
mircea_popescu: !topic [14:01]
kunickis: !topic [14:01]
mircea_popescu: Topic for #eulora is: [Talk about all things Eulora! Wiki:http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora, Channel Log: http://logs.minigame.bz] < [14:01]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora Log (at logs.minigame.bz) [14:01]
mircea_popescu: shinohai book an' ink - no adze [14:02]
shinohai: patience mircea_popescu trying to get the stuff moved over [14:02]
mircea_popescu: kk [14:02]
kunickis: soo how to get that mine here to use? [14:02]
mircea_popescu: there we go [14:04]
mircea_popescu: ty [14:04]
mircea_popescu: trade kunickis [14:04]
shinohai: finally lol [14:04]
mihi: shinohai, I think the world is small when I look at your irc hostname :D [14:05]
mircea_popescu: shinohai oh forgot the bp! [14:05]
kunickis: so whats now? [14:05]
shinohai: one sec coming back [14:05]
mircea_popescu: kunickis well, either go trasnport ore ; or else go read up about the game try and figure out how to do it faster. [14:06]
mircea_popescu: whichever you prefer. [14:06]
kunickis: and what about that claim? [14:06]
mircea_popescu: which that [14:06]
kunickis: what is near you... how to get one there too? [14:06]
kunickis: To put in when you are offline [14:07]
mircea_popescu: use the pickaxe. to explore. [14:07]
mircea_popescu: shinohai damn man this is painful. we gotta figure out what does this, tis inhumane. [14:07]
kunickis: You were not successful [14:07]
shinohai: mircea_popescu: what is the bp ? [14:08]
kunickis: backpack? [14:08]
mircea_popescu: apprentice something or the other [14:08]
mircea_popescu: tjere we go [14:08]
shinohai: didja get? [14:09]
mircea_popescu: i clicked accept... [14:09]
shinohai: ah ok it didn't show successful trade for me [14:09]
mircea_popescu: for me either. [14:09]
mircea_popescu: re-do ? [14:09]
mircea_popescu: mihi what's your scoring criteria btw ? [14:10]
mihi: mircea_popescu, scoring what? [14:10]
kunickis: all time you were not successful. .. [14:10]
mircea_popescu: > this pre-alpha quality software [14:10]
danielpbarron: shinohai> kunickis may set some sort of record for most times dying in single session. << pssshhh. I'm sure i've died the most times. I was barehanded gathering before the bot even did [14:10]
mircea_popescu: ty shinohai [14:10]
shinohai: Sorry I can't be of more help, just painfully slow [14:11]
mircea_popescu: we gotta figure out what does this to windoze. [14:11]
mihi: the fact that it is acting weird sometimes (not accepting clicks to UI elements or windows), that it eats one core with out doing anything and remember the story yesterday with that other guy who just was not able to start it at all without an error in the logs? [14:11]
kunickis: mircea_popescu sent me please that one bitcent that i earned. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: well yes ; but these are all windows errors. game is supported on windows through 3rd party packager. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: technically speaking, windows is the pre-alpha quality software in this stack. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: kunickis will do. [14:12]
shinohai: danielpbarron: the xml mod worked for you correct ? [14:13]
kunickis: mircea_popescu all time am not successful at mine haha. xD [14:13]
mihi: can we agree that its windows port is pre-alpha quality? I cannot speak for Linux here (and I guess it won't perform well in a VM either) [14:13]
mircea_popescu: gotta be persistent kunickis [14:13]
mircea_popescu: actually it's eating a core on linux too, i just checked. and yes we can agree client needs a whole lotta work. [14:14]
kunickis: mircea_popescu i need to give you back that picaxe? i will go off for now. [14:15]
mihi: but at least on Linux you have ways to easily throttle the cpufreq scaling, on Windows if one core is 100\% it will go to fastest&loudest :D [14:15]
mircea_popescu: yup. [14:15]
kunickis: ok. [14:15]
mircea_popescu: kinda why it never bubbled up as a complaint till windows people started using it. [14:15]
kunickis: accept trade then.. [14:15]
mircea_popescu: anyway ; i wouldn't expect this or anything else to work in a vm really. [14:15]
kunickis: ok am going off for now... waiting for first payment haha. :P [14:16]
mircea_popescu: kunickis can do same thing bh. eventually you get one. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: or i suppose maybe someone might want to sell you his, if anyone still has the keys. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you got keys to any of these town claims ? [14:16]
danielpbarron: shinohai> danielpbarron: the xml mod worked for you correct ? << yes but make sure you comment out the correct part. there are a couple similar looking lines [14:22]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, no but i could make one real quick [14:23]
mircea_popescu: kunickis 301e557335fb48105b6f48028d91ecd61697a45adc6b14455abca2b73d55d338 [14:23]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well, do you feel like helping a noob out ? [14:23]
mircea_popescu: he did strike a pretty massive sr deposit. [14:23]
danielpbarron: yeah [14:23]
danielpbarron: i can get a claim in less than 10 barehanded tries [14:23]
danielpbarron: there we go [14:24]
danielpbarron: a fresh new tiny boulder claim [14:24]
mircea_popescu: kunickis trade him for your new key heh. [14:24]
danielpbarron: i'll even give ya the ennumeration [14:24]
shinohai: I posted my xml in the logs, but no one knew if it was correct or not [14:24]
mircea_popescu: lol [14:24]
danielpbarron: oh i missed that shinohai looking now [14:25]
shinohai: kk thx [14:25]
danielpbarron: i'd put the <!-- on its own live above the stuff you're trying to comment out [14:26]
danielpbarron: even though what you did there should also do it [14:26]
shinohai: lemme give that whirl, no telling what sorcery might work in this game. [14:27]
mircea_popescu: ima bbs [14:27]
rowtan: <jurov, mircea_popescu> I checked all the text in all the batch files and there wasn't any written as, EuRlora, they were all Eulora. Where'd you see the extra r? [14:28]
danielpbarron: shinohai, looks like you did it to the wrong spot [14:28]
danielpbarron: i'll post mine [14:28]
shinohai: aite [14:28]
danielpbarron: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/29b4546e-c8ef-40f5-974d-bb67977d1826/?raw=true [14:29]
danielpbarron: search for <!-- [14:30]
danielpbarron: the end --> is right before the <fog blue="1" density="0.02" green="1" red="0" /> line [14:30]
jurov: rowtan see the log link [14:31]
jurov: there's a paste with euRlora referenced [14:31]
shinohai: weird danielpbarron ... that works in yours? [14:32]
shinohai: I get same seg fault [14:32]
rowtan: Yeah, but I'm looking at all my files and none of them mention euR [14:32]
danielpbarron: yes it works [14:33]
danielpbarron: i copied that from my world.zip that is currently used [14:34]
shinohai: http://ix.io/1jGk <<< my output, same error as before :/ [14:34]
danielpbarron: are we sure you don't need to recompile for it to take affect? [14:34]
shinohai: I asked that question last night [14:34]
danielpbarron: i thought i tried to make a change without a recompile and it didn't work [14:35]
shinohai: worth a shot, not like I can play right now. [14:35]
shinohai: ftr it should only be a client recompile correct, not all the deps, etc? [14:36]
jurov: it segfaults when it can't open X display or 3D functions [14:36]
danielpbarron: shinohai, ya [14:37]
danielpbarron: and there's a way to do it were it'll only do what changed [14:37]
shinohai: Are instructions in logz ? [14:38]
danielpbarron: yes, http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-01-11.log.html#t22:13:28 [14:40]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Monday, 2016-01-11 (at logs.minigame.bz) [14:40]
shinohai: thx [14:40]
shinohai: Well entering ftjam -q euclient takes 10 seconds and still the same :( [14:43]
jurov: rowtan so if you run again, there's no eurlora? [14:49]
rowtan: There never was a euRlora in my case anyway, but no, running either eulora.bat or psclient.exe directly doesn't work [14:52]
jurov: so what was that paste from? [14:53]
jurov: somebody else? [14:53]
rowtan: probably ¯\_(ã\u0083\u0084)_/¯ . I'm telling you I checked and rechecked but there were no euR in my files. [14:54]
shinohai: diana_coman's fix didn't work nor full recompile. It just not like me diddling with that Island file [15:03]
jurov: shinohai the log is jumbled i did not understood what are you trying to do? [15:04]
shinohai: I'm trying to fix a fps issue that make game unplayable for me [15:04]
shinohai: doin this jurov http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-21.log.html#t16:27:06 [15:06]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Tuesday, 2015-07-21 (at logs.minigame.bz) [15:06]
jurov: i think the water is the culprit, i get higher fps when none is in frame [15:07]
jurov: but no idea what do do about it [15:07]
jurov: to confirm this, you can try to go underwater. my fps jumps immediately i do [15:08]
shinohai: weird. [15:09]
jurov: and as for windows.. looks imma build in debug mode and walk someone through getting something useful out of windbg [15:15]
jurov: will take few days till i have it all ready [15:15]
mircea_popescu: that'd be helpful. /me volunteers mihi :D [15:15]
mihi: hides below a (medieval) rock [15:16]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:16]
mircea_popescu: no but srsly. you're the most articulate-sounding, so you're screwed. [15:17]
mihi: indeed I'm guilty having used windbg before (on code I did not write) [15:17]
mircea_popescu: for these sins... [15:17]
mircea_popescu: ahh h that sweet feeling when you calculate bundle quality, and then retro-fit component stack quality to get a "right" value, and then the end product comes out q 79 instead of the 78 you had calculated. [15:18]
mircea_popescu: THANK YOU EXTRA QUALITY POINT [15:18]
mircea_popescu: not only are you nice to have, but you also show my math to be off ;/ [15:19]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, 3 mn heard hanbot . ETA 17:00 ART << bout an hour left. [15:19]
mircea_popescu: shinohai say, are your logfiles for eulora over 10mb by any chance ? [15:25]
mircea_popescu: that's known to create this subtle bug nobody knows wtf. [15:25]
shinohai: looks [15:25]
mircea_popescu: rename if so, should be all good. [15:25]
shinohai: shinohai@bitbox~/.Eulora# du -h logs/ [15:26]
shinohai: 20K logs/ [15:26]
mircea_popescu: hm. [15:27]
mircea_popescu: mines 500mb lol [15:27]
shinohai: lol [15:27]
mircea_popescu: shinohai : so if it crashes you revert that xml change i guess. there's two sets of things you can try and fiddle with other than that. in .Eulora/planeshift.cfg various values such as you know Visuals.ShadowRange trasnparency etc etc. in wherever you installed it euclient.cfg stuff like screen size and opengl samplers, texture filter etc. esp try video.opengl.texturedownsample=0 [15:32]
shinohai: Yeah I was combing through all that to see if anything made sense. Reversion makes it start back up fine. [15:32]
diana_coman: jurov, that underwater = higher fps is simply cause underwater less stuff (from a graphics pov) basically, not really linked to water itself [15:33]
mircea_popescu: may be the water wavelets thing it does. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: really likes the water in eulora ; but hey. [15:34]
jurov: diana_coman: looking up from water you see the same stuff as from the shore [15:51]
jurov: water is the only difference [15:51]
jurov: (it is invisible from below) [15:52]
diana_coman: jurov, do you mean you *also* get the same high fps when you are somewhere without water in sight (but on land)? [15:53]
jurov: maybe, but that is not reliable. going underwater is reliable [15:53]
diana_coman: myeah, bc not water, but sand vs terrain [15:54]
Robespierre_: I'm stuck in-game. How can I get out? [16:05]
Robespierre_: Already killed myself via console, but the game respawned me in the same spot. [16:05]
diana_coman: how are you stuck exactly Robespierre_ ? [16:07]
diana_coman: you can try /unstick [16:07]
Robespierre_: I'll try it [16:07]
Robespierre_: Nothing [16:07]
Robespierre_: I'm stuck in that mineral structure, around the middle of the map [16:08]
Robespierre_: Can't move. [16:08]
wyrdmantis: it' here, near me [16:09]
wyrdmantis: 114 49 43 [16:09]
wyrdmantis: -43 [16:09]
diana_coman: uhm, jump Robespierre_ ? don't think anyone managed to really get totally stuck [16:10]
wyrdmantis: he's not stuck, he's trapped in a gap [16:10]
Robespierre_: Yep [16:10]
diana_coman: so move around, jump this stuff [16:10]
Robespierre_: Impossible [16:10]
diana_coman: and avoid gaps next time, lol [16:10]
diana_coman: eh [16:10]
Robespierre_: I guess it'll be my place forever then [16:11]
diana_coman: lol [16:11]
Robespierre_: I can become a NPC. [16:11]
diana_coman: what have you tried and it failed to work? [16:11]
Robespierre_: Just walking around [16:12]
Robespierre_: Fell into a strange gap in the ground [16:12]
Robespierre_: and that's it [16:13]
wyrdmantis: diana_coman it seems a glitch of some sort cause i see hie feet walking in air [16:13]
diana_coman: hm [16:13]
wyrdmantis: he should fall but he does not [16:13]
diana_coman: log off and back in? [16:14]
Robespierre_: Already tried, but will try again. [16:14]
diana_coman: so you know: I'm asking what have you tried and it failed to work and instead of a list I hear "just walking around" [16:14]
Robespierre_: What exactly you want to hear, Diana? [16:15]
Robespierre_: Logged back in, stuck into the same spot. [16:15]
diana_coman: a list with what exactly you have tried already! [16:16]
Robespierre_: I was trying to explore in order to find my first claims. [16:16]
diana_coman: I mean: in order to get out of the crack [16:16]
Robespierre_: Saw that gap. Jumped into it. [16:16]
Robespierre_: And that's it. [16:16]
diana_coman: ugh [16:16]
Robespierre_: Thought I was going to die. [16:16]
diana_coman: honestly, so you fall into a gap and then....? [16:17]
diana_coman: stay there and shout get me out? [16:17]
Robespierre_: And then I tried to walk around. [16:17]
Robespierre_: Jump, sit, etc, etc [16:17]
Robespierre_: Nothing worked. [16:17]
Robespierre_: So I killed myself via console [16:17]
Robespierre_: And I thought I would wake up and see myself respawned in another place. [16:18]
diana_coman: so that list I want to hear exactly because despite loads of people previously falling in those cracks, this is the *first* time someone really claims they can't get out no matter what [16:18]
Robespierre_: Turns out it didn't. [16:18]
diana_coman: yeah, it doesn't work that way for sure [16:18]
Robespierre_: Well, bug report then. [16:19]
Robespierre_: From a positve perspective. [16:19]
Robespierre_: :D [16:19]
diana_coman: ..... [16:19]
diana_coman: it is the lousiest "bug report" I ever saw [16:19]
diana_coman: from a positive perspective too [16:19]
Robespierre_: I'm sorry, but I'm no Computer Engineer, right Diana? [16:19]
Robespierre_: So please, be more gentle. [16:19]
Robespierre_: I'm a normie user. That's what you guys get when you adverise the game all around. [16:20]
diana_coman: lol [16:20]
Robespierre_: Was reading your guides and trying to understand the game, after all. [16:21]
diana_coman: good for you [16:21]
Robespierre_: A shame that hapenned. [16:21]
diana_coman: if I were you I'd try *everything* to get myself out of there first, then come with a *list* of what I tried and what happened [16:21]
diana_coman: and ask for help [16:22]
diana_coman: that has nothing to do with computer engineer whatever that is [16:22]
shinohai: Logged: 16:20 Robespierre_ I'm a normie user. That's what you guys get when you adverise the game all around. NORMIES! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeE! [16:22]
Robespierre_: Yeah... [16:22]
Robespierre_: Oh here we go. [16:22]
diana_coman: you got out of the place-impossible-to-get-out-of Robespierre_ ? [16:23]
Robespierre_: Well, no. [16:24]
Robespierre_: Guess I'll delete my char and create another one. [16:25]
diana_coman: guess that works too [16:25]
Robespierre_: Oh, and that hapenned yesterday. I indeed tried lot's of things to get out. [16:30]
diana_coman: so just list them [16:31]
Robespierre_: 1) Walk and jump for several minutes. [16:32]
Robespierre_: 2) Sit [16:32]
Robespierre_: 3) Log out [16:32]
Robespierre_: 4) Again walking and jumping [16:32]
Robespierre_: 5) Killed myself via console and went to sleep (RL). [16:32]
diana_coman: walk in all directions? did anything change in between those? explore? [16:33]
diana_coman: unstick and then walk and jump? [16:33]
Robespierre_: 6) Woke up, logged in. Tried the same steps above. [16:33]
Robespierre_: And then came here. [16:33]
Robespierre_: Yep. [16:33]
diana_coman: mk, let me come and see this wonder [16:33]
Robespierre_: But relax, I have another char now. [16:34]
diana_coman: oook [16:34]
jurov: Robespierre_: you can hack the sources and teleport :) [16:47]
kunickis: am back. ;) [16:47]
Robespierre_: Oh, finally someone helpful. [16:47]
kunickis: mm? [16:47]
kunickis: mircea_popescu are you online? [16:50]
kunickis: anyone selling claim in town? [16:52]
Robespierre_: Me? [16:52]
Robespierre_: Mircea [16:53]
kunickis: How much? [16:53]
mircea_popescu: hey [16:53]
kunickis: mircea accept. ;) [16:53]
mircea_popescu: hit me [16:53]
kunickis: run not working yet for me. :/ [16:53]
kunickis: found that there is autogo. hehe. :D [16:54]
mircea_popescu: iirc danielpbarron got you one, talk to him [16:54]
kunickis: oky writted him. ;) [16:54]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ log off and ill teleport you away [16:55]
mircea_popescu: and stay away from that spot [16:55]
mircea_popescu: (there is a teleporter there but hard to get) [16:55]
Robespierre_: That's exactly what I was trying to find.. Hehehe. [16:55]
Robespierre_: Already logged off. [16:55]
mircea_popescu: kk [16:55]
kunickis: mircea what can be a problem that not working run? In settings all is set.. :/ [16:56]
kunickis: At start it worked but for now nothing... tried to change keys but nothing [16:57]
mircea_popescu: maybe you're just carrying heavy stuff ? [16:57]
kunickis: ohh it can be reason too? [16:57]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ hmm, who're you in game ? [16:57]
mircea_popescu: kunickis yeah if your stamina runs out [16:57]
kunickis: ou okey thanks ;d [16:57]
Robespierre_: "Vladimir Lenin" is my nick. [16:57]
kunickis: trade [16:58]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ ok can log back in now [16:59]
kunickis: mircea_popescu how long you will be online for today? [17:00]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 6 hours ? [17:00]
kunickis: oh, okey. ;) [17:01]
mircea_popescu: you got plenty of time to finish. [17:01]
kunickis: yh i know. [17:01]
kunickis: its why am asking. ;) [17:01]
Robespierre_: My sincere thanks, Mircea! :D [17:02]
mircea_popescu: my pleasure./ [17:02]
mircea_popescu: lol these meanies been giving you a hard time ? [17:07]
mircea_popescu: anyway ; go around exploring, eventually you'll find something. [17:08]
mircea_popescu: just takes patience. [17:08]
mircea_popescu: kinda likes kunickis 's dedication! [17:13]
kunickis: hehe [17:14]
mircea_popescu: very good noob AAA+. [17:14]
kunickis: thanks. :) [17:14]
kunickis: and how are u getting btc to pay for job? [17:17]
mircea_popescu: you don't really know who i am do you. [17:17]
kunickis: nah don't know. [17:18]
mircea_popescu: well... google me. [17:18]
Robespierre_: Hehehehe. [17:18]
kunickis: oh just googled [17:20]
mircea_popescu: found anything good ? [17:20]
kunickis: yh abotu bitcoin casino or dice dont know what is it... and another info .d; [17:21]
Robespierre_: Turn's out he's a Kulak. [17:21]
kunickis: How do you get so much btc lel? [17:21]
mircea_popescu: cuz somebody gotta be rich! [17:21]
mircea_popescu: kunickis http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << there, did you find that ? [17:22]
lobbesbot: Title: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [17:22]
Robespierre_: HAHAHAHAHAHA [17:22]
kunickis: :D:D:D [17:22]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:22]
Robespierre_: So that's why I saw around the web you're a douchbag misogynist scum. [17:24]
kunickis: lel [17:24]
Robespierre_: What a shame for the post-structuralists. [17:24]
mircea_popescu: heh. who even knows. [17:24]
Robespierre_: They must be mad. [17:24]
shinohai: We regularly hand out bandaids for butthurt here. [17:24]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the part where chicks come on irc, "hi, i would like to show my tits please" is pretty good. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: all this was an ancient argument with something awful derps. who back in 2014 were like./.. "oh bitcoin has no utility". [17:25]
Robespierre_: I see... [17:25]
mircea_popescu: they got INCREDIBLY butthurt over that [17:25]
Robespierre_: How much worth of currency there is in-game, btw? [17:26]
mircea_popescu: look in the reports, http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-august-2016-statement/ [17:27]
lobbesbot: Title: MiniGame (S.MG), August 2016 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [17:27]
mircea_popescu: player holdings 49.01463514 currently [17:27]
kunickis: nice. [17:28]
mircea_popescu: of course, this is just base value. how people value their holdings is complicated. [17:28]
mircea_popescu: for instance when danielpbarron got his pop, 80mn, it came as some very rare loot items [17:28]
mircea_popescu: i don't know if he'd sell it for 4btc. [17:29]
mircea_popescu: so that ~50btc of base value can be who knows, a few hundred btc in owner's eyes. [17:29]
Robespierre_: So, if I come across a pop, I have 2 choices. To transform it in game-currency, or to withdraw it as BTC? [17:30]
mircea_popescu: you can sell the game currency for btc and vice versa any time anywya [17:30]
Robespierre_: And how this happen? I must talk to some person? [17:30]
kunickis: yh [17:31]
mircea_popescu: yeah, jurov handles that currently. [17:31]
mircea_popescu: but in principle, anyone who wants to cp you. [17:31]
Robespierre_: Oh, nice. [17:31]
mircea_popescu: hola ethereumhunter [17:31]
shinohai: Trying to explain pgp to him [17:32]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the guarantee minigame offers is that it won't sell ecu for less than 1 satoshi per. so there is that. [17:32]
mircea_popescu: cool shinohai [17:33]
Robespierre_: What's the aprox. chance of finding a claim by exploring with bare hands? [17:33]
mircea_popescu: depends on your skill level. and on your stats ; and on many things. so nobody really knows. [17:33]
kunickis: am afk 5min] [17:33]
kunickis: trade [17:36]
kunickis: and then am afk 5min ;D [17:36]
Robespierre_: I can explore without any skill. But can I learn it nevertheless? [17:36]
jurov: Robespierre_: yes, I think danielpbarron has the skill items [17:37]
Robespierre_: Yeah, I need'em.. [17:38]
Robespierre_: When he get's online I'll call him :D [17:39]
kunickis: am back [17:41]
kunickis: micrea_popescu trade [17:42]
kunickis: -,- [17:46]
diana_coman: books are probably cheaper than skill items [17:46]
kunickis: diana, do you have claim in town? [17:47]
diana_coman: I do kunickis but they are full already; I can get you one next time I'm in town [17:47]
diana_coman: should be in some 15 min [17:48]
kunickis: oh thank you very much. :) I need it cause when mircea_popescu is afk i can continue work. i can pay later when will get for this job btc. :) [17:48]
diana_coman: sure, but is the one you have lost or what happened? [17:48]
kunickis: my mine is far form town and i need to trade with mircea all time rock so i spend 4minutes walking haha. i got 60k rocks and for one time i can take only 1k. [17:49]
kunickis: so it will take me 4hours and when mircea is afk or offline i cant continue work. ;/ [17:50]
diana_coman: sounds like a lot of walking [17:50]
kunickis: yeah it is. :/ [17:50]
mircea_popescu: kunickis rdy ? [17:52]
kunickis: yh. [17:52]
mircea_popescu: oh, you got a key ? even better. [17:52]
kunickis: nah didnt got yet from town claims [17:52]
mircea_popescu: a ok [17:53]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ you can learn the skills from books or special items. [17:54]
mircea_popescu: takes some strategizing though. [17:54]
mircea_popescu: ~nothing in eulora works like in "average game/mmo". [17:54]
diana_coman: the game being thus very very mean for not being average [17:55]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:56]
mircea_popescu: it's a mode! [17:56]
mircea_popescu: eulora a la mode : very mean for not average. [17:56]
diana_coman: always more room for new server messages [17:57]
diana_coman: kunickis, I am almost in town, so maybe wait a bit for claims [17:59]
kunickis: Okey, i will wait. ;) [17:59]
kunickis: mircea_popescu For example if i will now get claim can i make that bundle in new claim and that 50k that left from town claim trade to you? [18:00]
kunickis: then i will not need to run too far. [18:01]
mircea_popescu: nope. [18:01]
kunickis: ohh. okey. [18:01]
mircea_popescu: doesn't work thgatway. [18:01]
mircea_popescu: for one thing, you wiull prolly get a tiny claim. what i gave you was ordinary [18:01]
mircea_popescu: not the same size. [18:01]
kunickis: okey. just askin. ;) [18:01]
diana_coman: try it kunickis [18:02]
kunickis: diana_coman Thank you very much :)) [18:02]
diana_coman: one claim should be enough, right? [18:02]
kunickis: Yeah. thanks. :) [18:02]
kunickis: all is working. :)) [18:02]
diana_coman: cool [18:02]
kunickis: ok am going work hah. ;) [18:03]
mircea_popescu: starts the cronometer [18:03]
ethereumhunter: hi there [18:06]
kunickis: hey [18:06]
diana_coman: hi ethereumhunter [18:06]
ethereumhunter: mircea_popescu : can i ask for account? [18:06]
mircea_popescu: sure. [18:06]
ethereumhunter: how? [18:06]
mircea_popescu: but why still trading to me kunickis ? [18:06]
mircea_popescu: ethereumhunter you just have ; gimme a second [18:06]
ethereumhunter: i already register my key [18:06]
kunickis: mircea_popescu i can just put it in that claim? [18:07]
mircea_popescu: yes, and lock it [18:07]
kunickis: oh okey. ;) [18:07]
mircea_popescu: no need to wait for me anymore. [18:07]
kunickis: heh nice. ;) [18:07]
shinohai: ok mircea_popescu , this ethereumhunter guy is registered with deedbot needs account plox [18:09]
mircea_popescu: ethereumhunter http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/20105526-9614-4bb9-b2ad-0e58421c9151/ [18:09]
ethereumhunter: done [18:10]
ethereumhunter: and then? [18:10]
mircea_popescu: and then say hi to me in game. [18:10]
ethereumhunter: where to play game? [18:11]
mircea_popescu: me smiles widely at shinohai [18:11]
shinohai: >.> [18:12]
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: ".>" is not a valid command. [18:12]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha [18:12]
shinohai: [18:12]
shinohai: >part [18:12]
shinohai: I'll smile back at mircea_popescu if this share treaty makes me smile in the end. [18:14]
mircea_popescu: if this wait what ? [18:15]
shinohai: You added me to s.mg list or somesuch for "services rendered" I believe? [18:15]
mircea_popescu: will ; next report ; yes. [18:17]
shinohai: o7 [18:17]
shinohai: crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll is missing <<< ethereumhunter getting this [18:24]
shinohai: Win 8.1 [18:24]
diana_coman: hm, I think everyone getting this was on win 8? [18:25]
mircea_popescu: did he download the right one ? http://minigame.bz/jurov/Eulora-V0_1_2-win32-full.7z ? [18:25]
shinohai: ethereumhunter: check it ^ [18:25]
ethereumhunter: yes i download it [18:25]
shinohai: He says he can't open eulora.bat or something [18:26]
mircea_popescu: oh it's the virtual c. darn. [18:26]
mircea_popescu: ethereumhunter set ownerhip on the bat to you so you can run it / edit it [18:26]
ethereumhunter: but after i run eulora.bat its said that and i am trying to search .dll in folder cs-winlibs [18:26]
ethereumhunter: and i copy paste the missing file [18:26]
ethereumhunter: but i still can not run eulora [18:26]
mircea_popescu: yes but you have to edit the .bat to use your directories [18:26]
ethereumhunter: even if i use the admin mode, i can run it [18:27]
ethereumhunter: can not [18:27]
kunickis: Did you put Eulora map in C: ? [18:27]
mircea_popescu: hm [18:27]
kunickis: folder* [18:27]
shinohai: I'm kinda helpless when it comes to Windows, been using Debian almost since it came out [18:28]
ethereumhunter: i can not found eulora map [18:28]
kunickis: i think folder... [18:28]
diana_coman: he means eulora folder ethereumhunter ; did you put eulora in c: directly or at some other path? [18:29]
ethereumhunter: please take a look in this screenshot [18:32]
ethereumhunter: http://prntscr.com/cdtwi1 [18:32]
lobbesbot: Title: Screenshot by Lightshot (at prntscr.com) [18:32]
ethereumhunter: i think its need vga cards to load [18:32]
ethereumhunter: because after that finish, its disappear, but before its show, i see that openAL is missing and its need to be on system [18:33]
shinohai: Then likely you need video drivers updated on system [18:35]
ethereumhunter: i have it updated on system, but i dont know somehow its missing :( [18:36]
Robespierre_: What's the best Romanian University? [19:09]
mircea_popescu: ubb [19:13]
Robespierre_: Nice. [19:14]
kunickis: Ok, am going for now sleep. [19:30]
kunickis: Cya tomorrow. ;) [19:30]
kunickis: night. [19:30]
mircea_popescu: sleep tight ; make sure all claims are locked [19:30]
kunickis: yeah all locked. ;) [19:30]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, 3 mn heard hanbot . ETA 17:00 ART << hanbot you got the lbn. [19:45]
danielpbarron: Robespierre_, yo [20:42]
Robespierre_: Hey. [20:42]
danielpbarron: you wanted a claim or something? [20:42]
Robespierre_: I would like the itens to learn the first skills. [20:43]
Robespierre_: But a claim would be nice too. [20:43]
danielpbarron: you got money? [20:43]
Robespierre_: Been hard exploring without tools. [20:43]
Robespierre_: 1500coppers. [20:43]
danielpbarron: heh [20:43]
danielpbarron: so no skills then [20:43]
Robespierre_: Hehehehe [20:44]
Robespierre_: Thought the "Starter's Pack" thing was still going on [20:44]
danielpbarron: who said that? [20:44]
Robespierre_: I read it in some guide. [20:44]
danielpbarron: there once was a time that you could have gotten the basic skills for free, but that time has passed [20:46]
Robespierre_: How sad! [20:46]
Robespierre_: What's the cost of the first few basic skills then? [20:47]
danielpbarron: i have the building skill item for sale in my shop, but it ain't cheap [20:47]
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/eulora-shop/#amr [20:47]
Robespierre_: k [20:47]
danielpbarron: i'm not even selling the others [20:47]
danielpbarron: i just happen to have an abundance of the building one in particular [20:47]
Robespierre_: k [20:48]
Robespierre_: Any advice for me to earn some coppers? Seems the only thing I can do know is /bot explore [20:49]
danielpbarron: work for Mircea [20:49]
danielpbarron: there was once a time i hired noobs to do stuff, but that too has passed [20:50]
Robespierre_: Lol, I feel like an idiot. Well, well, hope I catch to the learning curve sometime. [20:50]
Robespierre_: =/ [20:51]
danielpbarron: didn't you get 2 million coppers for joining and saying hi and building a couple claims? [20:52]
danielpbarron: that's already enough to buy a skill item from me :D [20:52]
Robespierre_: Just got the 0.01 [20:52]
Robespierre_: I didn't build the claims to get the other half [20:53]
danielpbarron: but i should give you fair warning, having the skill might make you less desirable as a worker [20:53]
danielpbarron: well do that then [20:53]
Robespierre_: How? I need to find them first, right? [20:53]
danielpbarron: that's a lot of money to get for such a simple task [20:53]
danielpbarron: no, Mircea will give you a key and tell you what to do [20:53]
Robespierre_: Oh. [20:53]
Robespierre_: Thanks for the tip. That's why I wanted to learn explore.. To build my first claims. [20:54]
Robespierre_: Or get me a tool. [20:54]
Robespierre_: Hehe. [20:54]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ you can make a cool mil by diggin up a coupla claims for me and dragging the product back over to town [20:55]
Robespierre_: Alright, I'm at the market. [20:55]
mircea_popescu: trade me [20:55]
mircea_popescu: accept is bottom left [20:56]
mircea_popescu: ok so you know teh drill. [20:56]
Robespierre_: So, now I find the claim corresponding the the key, put the item inside it.. And? [20:57]
mircea_popescu: first you buy the bundle from electron [20:57]
danielpbarron: (it should be noted perhaps, that bundles will not necessarily always be for sale at electron) [20:59]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [20:59]
danielpbarron: ((also, that electron may not always be there)) [20:59]
Robespierre_: This game is.. Fun. In it's own ways.. [20:59]
mircea_popescu: yeah it's perverse. [20:59]
mircea_popescu: oh danielpbarron you no longer hiring nooblets ? [21:05]
danielpbarron: yeah i can't imagine what i'd have them do [21:06]
danielpbarron: ok i thought of something [21:14]
mircea_popescu: lol [21:14]
danielpbarron: guess i could set someone up with bits and threads and have them barehanded gather with the bot [21:14]
danielpbarron: only if they are vetted first [21:14]
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean something like that would work better on their own no ? [21:15]
danielpbarron: must be in my l2 let's say [21:15]
mircea_popescu: can just buy the bits etc [21:15]
danielpbarron: not with 1.5k coppers they can't [21:15]
mircea_popescu: there is that. [21:15]
mircea_popescu: how's the mining going Robespierre_ ? [21:16]
mircea_popescu: lol by the stumbling walk i can tell this must be shinohai 's toon [21:17]
Robespierre_: Well. Trying to get the ingredients for the ordinary clump of dry grass bundle, following the recipe. [21:17]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ don't be silly, buy the ordinary grass bundle from electron [21:18]
danielpbarron: you can buy the bundle pre-made from electron [21:18]
mircea_popescu: that's what i gave you those 50k coppers for [21:18]
shinohai: yeah was trying various settings, I'm still under the influence of ether or something [21:18]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i suppose i can be proud of the fact that the learning curve in eulora is the stiffest thing ever to grace the gaming landscape. [21:19]
Robespierre_: Hehehehe [21:19]
Robespierre_: That was the first thing I tried.. But I cannot find the bundle in the shop. [21:19]
Robespierre_: Must be my mistake, probably. [21:20]
danielpbarron: it's not good to be proud [21:20]
mircea_popescu: no way, there's no ordinary clump of dry grass bundle ? [21:20]
mircea_popescu: did these speculators buy electron out in the wake of noob wave ?! [21:20]
Robespierre_: I think there isn't. [21:21]
mircea_popescu: this i gotta see [21:21]
danielpbarron: come to think of it, if basics sell for 150\% electron's prices are a great discount [21:21]
Robespierre_: Oh, forget it. [21:21]
Robespierre_: I found it. [21:21]
mircea_popescu: gah [21:21]
mircea_popescu: o look someone sold it flotsam. yum [21:22]
Robespierre_: Lol, I'm really bad. Was looking for "Ordinary Dry Grass". Forgot the "Clump". [21:24]
Robespierre_: pathetic. [21:24]
Robespierre_: :D [21:24]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron kinda why tools are so expensive i figured. [21:29]
mircea_popescu: electron is priced in [21:29]
Robespierre_: Done it, mircea. [21:41]
Robespierre_: Finally. [21:41]
Robespierre_: 20k total loot weight, have only 500 max [21:50]
Robespierre_: Must bring it to the town and deposit where? [21:51]
Robespierre_: Oh, figured it out. [21:55]
danielpbarron: don't leave the claim unlocked if you leave stuff in it [21:55]
Robespierre_: yep [21:56]
mircea_popescu: Robespierre_ by me lol [22:06]
Robespierre_: Any way to automate the process of bringing the resources with the bot? [22:10]
mircea_popescu: that's up to you neh ? [22:10]
Robespierre_: Hum. [22:10]
mircea_popescu: in other good news, the fact that nobody wants pickaxes may finally mean i can use the tools to craft some toolkits yay [22:40]
Robespierre_: Mircea [23:16]
Robespierre_: Trade for the loot [23:16]

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