#eulora Logs for 02 Sep 2016

September 2nd, 2016 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I can sell 10 stacks of q9 tinkerer feelingses and 2 stacks of q120 nosehairs, let me know [03:21]
PeterL: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-09-01.log.html#t22:45:34 << I suppose if you pay out meaningful amounts of bitcoin you should move out of the "micro earnings" section and into the "jobs" section [08:29]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Thursday, 2016-09-01 (at logs.minigame.bz) [08:29]
shinohai: PeterL: already on that, admin told me to post there, get a few payout proofs, then I can have it moved. [08:32]
PeterL: did they specify where the cutoff is for "micro" in earnings? [08:33]
PeterL: I guess you could use SI prefixing ... this is squarely in the milli range, not micro! [08:34]
shinohai: No specification, I just talked to admin I know there and he suggested I do that. [08:34]
shinohai: It makes persons rather incredulous that this is real, I get that. micro-earnings is as mircea_popescu described a faucet scam haven. [08:35]
shinohai: Speaking of bitcointalk, let's go see how those fags are doing today. [08:37]
mircea_popescu: ahhh so nice to wake up to see a nicely wheezing bot overnight [08:52]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman sure thing. [08:52]
diana_coman: kk, logging on [08:53]
mircea_popescu: 10 * 9999 * 10 * .09 * 1.1 + 2 * 9999 * 10 * 1.2 * 1.1 =362963.7 [08:53]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but mind doing it when i'm in town ? [08:53]
mircea_popescu: kinda don't want to break this mining run [08:53]
diana_coman: sure, not in a hurry at all [08:53]
mircea_popescu: PeterL let them figure it out, i guess. [08:54]
mircea_popescu: shinohai turns out one person's micropenis is another person's bbc [08:54]
shinohai: hears whispers "Is it in yet?" all over btctalk. [08:55]
mircea_popescu: lol [08:55]
diana_coman: to me that sounds like the wider story here really: people really are more incredulous about real things than about scams (possibly on the strength of "but this is what I am USED to") [08:57]
mircea_popescu: isn't it weird ? [08:57]
mircea_popescu: recall the "smart" camhos/strippers on that forum ? "oh i don't want 1 btc" [08:57]
shinohai: btw I don't think Yipstard or whatever his name is will make the cut, I awoke to 50 messages from him pretty much blaming Algeria for Eulora not working for him. [08:58]
diana_coman: myeah; more like another result of the wonderful world we live in; idiotic rather than weird I'd say [08:58]
mircea_popescu: weirdiotic, it's a thing. [09:00]
diana_coman: ahahaha, that indeed [09:00]
mircea_popescu: shinohai next year or w/e, after the land update and ppl making castles etc, it'll prolly be one race war after the next. [09:00]
shinohai: can hardly wait. [09:01]
PeterL: are you going to add races? [09:01]
mircea_popescu: no, but people can still name their town "Algeria". how much does it take for a race war ? [09:01]
diana_coman: algeria must be a very unfair country [09:01]
shinohai: Algerians deliberately diidle with his 4g internet connection just so he can't make btc [09:02]
mircea_popescu: more's the point : because of the way stats work, races don't need to be added by me : they'll evolve naturally, as people select for traits. [09:02]
shinohai: poor guy [09:02]
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly like fucking irl. [09:02]
mircea_popescu: btw PeterL you want this table to get the rest of tat flotsam ? [09:03]
PeterL: sure, I'll log in, just a sec [09:03]
PeterL: how does table help get flotsam? [09:03]
mircea_popescu: im at 62 43 310 [09:04]
mircea_popescu: once you have it in your inventory, you /point to where electron is (go there first, get his coords) [09:04]
diana_coman: craft-tables are basically eulora's current huge backpacks PeterL [09:04]
mircea_popescu: then you /bot mine 500000 line 50000 1 1 1 1 [09:04]
mircea_popescu: and the bot will table-walk you there. [09:04]
diana_coman: table-walk is a thing!:))) [09:04]
mircea_popescu: tablewalk is this thing where you got a large load in the table, keep dropping it and picking it back up [09:04]
mircea_popescu: people used to do this for a long time by hand lol [09:05]
mircea_popescu: but now new foxybot does it auto so it's a huge boon for miners. [09:05]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I think that will be foxybot's main description of purpose and whatnot: "People used to do this for a lon time by hand. LOL!" [09:06]
mircea_popescu: yup. [09:06]
diana_coman: long* [09:06]
mircea_popescu: fair is fair. [09:06]
mircea_popescu: anyone saw the southpark with the yelp "food critics" btw ? [09:07]
PeterL: is there a way to change the password? [09:10]
mircea_popescu: not atm [09:11]
mircea_popescu: eventually it'll all be on rsa like god intended. [09:11]
PeterL: is there a way to get the bot to walk you to a position instead of just pointing at it? [09:14]
mircea_popescu: not so far. [09:14]
mircea_popescu: of course, it is open source, you can just edit it. [09:14]
mircea_popescu: if you were to implement a /bot go x z i'm sure plenty of people would be thankful. [09:15]
PeterL: well ... may edit/can edit perhaps not same thing? [09:15]
mircea_popescu: (this being exactly how all the shit exists to begin with - at some point we were using xmacro to do crafting lol. then diana made the early bot.) [09:15]
mircea_popescu: PeterL it's really not THAT hard, bot already has classes for everything. [09:16]
PeterL: alright, I will have a look at some point [09:16]
mircea_popescu: you can implement it as a "/point and move and /pos and check and /point and move" [09:16]
mircea_popescu: you don't even necessarily need a stop condition right off. [09:17]
mircea_popescu: heck, even getting the player in run mode and spamming point every second would likely do it. [09:18]
diana_coman: PeterL, the bot already has methods to interact with the world, including moving or turning to a given point [09:23]
diana_coman: so implementing "go to x" is quite straightforward really [09:23]
mircea_popescu: PeterL table can't be traded, pick that far one up once im gone far enough [09:25]
mircea_popescu: like now. [09:25]
mircea_popescu: congrats on your first talbe :) [09:26]
PeterL: yay [09:26]
mircea_popescu: it can also be used to craft tinkering stuff, so. good thing to have. [09:26]
PeterL: and what did you think of my character name, sufficiently midievalified? [09:30]
mircea_popescu: it's fine [09:30]
mircea_popescu: neways, get these ords done, make your bitcent, then i'll give you a monster task which will make a bitcent all by its own and can be automated, will take about half a day so you can leave it going overnight [09:31]
PeterL: ok, cool [09:31]
mircea_popescu: is happy to finally start cutting down on this backlog of noob labour. [09:33]
Yipdard: EHOOOO [09:44]
PeterL: not sure I understand how to start the bot tablewalking? Do I start with table in inventory or on the ground? [09:44]
Yipdard: HEY! [09:44]
PeterL: hi yipdard [09:44]
Yipdard: so, diana_coman [09:44]
AlgerianShinohai: >.> [09:44]
Yipdard: lol [09:44]
Yipdard: diana_coman, hello [09:45]
diana_coman: hello Yipdard [09:46]
Yipdard: i have a problem with eulora [09:47]
diana_coman: PeterL, table in inventory, just start the bot [09:47]
mircea_popescu: aaactually here's an idea! [09:47]
mircea_popescu: hey shinohai : make hm. where's your bot ? [09:47]
diana_coman: Yipdard, and what would that problem be exactly? [09:48]
shinohai: make hm? [09:48]
diana_coman: looots of hmmms shinohai , it's a thing :D [09:48]
mircea_popescu: anyway, make it read lines from eulora world chat and put them in here, like with an [EULORA] prefix. an' ima pay you a bitcent [09:48]
mircea_popescu: it's not hard, the client dumps chat in a logfile, can just tail -r that [09:48]
Yipdard: diana_coman, when i click on psclient.exe, I have a message in french (my language) that says there is not crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll [09:48]
mircea_popescu: or w/e you use [09:48]
Yipdard: diana_coman, when I start eulora.bat, I have a CMD, then nothing [09:49]
shinohai: first I need a working Eulora client [09:49]
mircea_popescu: PeterL table in inventory, but put the heavy shit inside it [09:49]
shinohai: So gimmie few hours to do it in stupid Debian Jessie, which has no libjpeg8 [09:49]
diana_coman: hm, jurov might be able to help with that more precisely, but it sounds to me like you are either missing something or otherwise not have the CRYSTAL thing set [09:49]
mircea_popescu: im in no hurry shinohai [09:49]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman game for the sentiments now ? [09:50]
diana_coman: Yipdard, what binary did you get and what steps did you follow? [09:50]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, let me log in and see where I am with my table lol [09:50]
mircea_popescu: hacemos que todo succeda!!1 [09:50]
mircea_popescu: kk [09:50]
diana_coman: and what sentiments, NO sentiments! [09:51]
diana_coman: feelings only [09:51]
diana_coman: lol [09:51]
mircea_popescu: yeah yeah numinae [09:51]
shinohai: Love dat Algerian 4g [09:51]
mircea_popescu: "perhaps you noticed, miss X, that my feelings for you have ripened into deeper sentiments..." [09:51]
mircea_popescu: if only elliot & friends were playing eulora - he could have saved the feelings of all the mino maio or w/e blondies he was infatuated with. [09:52]
diana_coman: he wasn't infatuated with any blondy - he was just annoyed with the idea of there being blondies (which is unfair!! because if there are, those undeserving ungentelmenly pigs will get them!) [09:55]
mircea_popescu: hm [09:55]
diana_coman: that is his complaint, he keeps repeating how great it was before there being blondies aka before puberty [09:56]
mircea_popescu: yeah he doesn't actually seem to even perceive any of them in any sense. [09:56]
mircea_popescu: outside of conformity with pregiven matrix. [09:56]
diana_coman: exactly [09:56]
mircea_popescu: shinohai then when you're done with THAT, ima have you bridge the other way : have your bot read the chan lines into game. [09:57]
mircea_popescu: that'll require editing foxybot so 2 bitcents for that one. [09:57]
mircea_popescu: ima even make you a special account, town crier. [09:58]
mircea_popescu: bbs [09:59]
mircea_popescu: oh no, first. diana_coman rdy ? [09:59]
diana_coman: getting them out, 1 min [09:59]
mircea_popescu: kk [09:59]
shinohai: "town crier" [10:00]
shinohai: kek [10:00]
mircea_popescu: Ye Olde Towne Spoke [10:01]
diana_coman: lol mircea_popescu it was some 363k [10:01]
mircea_popescu: ya but i need change for all teh noob bundles! [10:01]
mircea_popescu: you no got ? [10:01]
diana_coman: wasn't it? ain't no change from mn for that [10:01]
diana_coman: nope [10:01]
mircea_popescu: mk [10:01]
diana_coman: buy some tomes! [10:01]
diana_coman: lol [10:01]
mircea_popescu: danke schon [10:02]
diana_coman: now the question is how exactly does one *stack* those hairs? [10:02]
mircea_popescu: like the icon looks - you make a small pile of nose pubes [10:03]
diana_coman: a pile is not a stack! [10:03]
mircea_popescu: a pile can be a stack... [10:03]
mircea_popescu: see, if they're volatile, like smoke, then it's a smoke-stack, not a smoke pile [10:03]
mircea_popescu: whereas if they're sticky, like shit, it's a shitpile. not a shitstack. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: except in computing , which is all dry goods. [10:03]
diana_coman: heh [10:04]
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> PeterL table in inventory, but put the heavy shit inside it << I get "Command passed on to bot" but then nothing happens [10:29]
mircea_popescu: hit a /bot reset for good measure [11:07]
mircea_popescu: sometimes it ends up in messed state PeterL [11:07]
Yipdard: Sorry, i disconnected last time [12:26]
Yipdard: diana_coman, you have a solution for my problem? [12:26]
jurov: Yipdard: did you install it in c:\eulora ? [12:27]
jurov: If not please edit eulora.bat in notepad and correct the path. [12:28]
Yipdard: jurov, yes, sure, i moved it there [12:28]
Yipdard: have something to edit if i moved it? [12:28]
jurov: Ok, then please run eulora.bat from commanline to see any output [12:28]
jurov: *commandline [12:28]
Yipdard: how can i do this? [12:29]
jurov: Win+R, type cmd [12:29]
jurov: commandline should open [12:29]
Yipdard: ah cmd [12:30]
jurov: then run c:\eulora\eulora.bat in there [12:30]
Yipdard: yes, i see the same thing when i run eulora.bat [12:31]
shinohai: Copy output and paste then, it might be helpful [12:31]
Yipdard: https://thepb.in/p/58hgPX7wJJQhv [12:33]
jurov: huh it just silently died :( so you need to root out any error log in \%APPDATA\%\eulora [12:34]
jurov: you can try remove that directory, too, it's safe [12:34]
Yipdard: appdata directory? [12:35]
jurov: yes [12:35]
Yipdard: nothing there lol [12:35]
Yipdard: why it's safe? [12:37]
Yipdard: ? [12:38]
jurov: i meant safe to remove [12:39]
jurov: and if there's nothing there, then i don't know [12:39]
Yipdard: so i am fucked :( [12:40]
jurov: can't you try another computer? turn off antivirus? [12:40]
shinohai: By Algerians yet Yipdard [12:40]
jurov: btw, which windows version is it? [12:43]
Yipdard: yaaa shinohai [12:44]
Yipdard: Windows 8.1 [12:44]
jurov: 64bit? [12:45]
Yipdard: yes [12:46]
jurov: oh and can you look in event log for anything relevant? [12:49]
jurov: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/226084-event-viewer-open-use-windows-7-a.html [12:50]
lobbesbot: Title: Event Viewer - Open and Use in Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums (at www.sevenforums.com) [12:50]
PeterL: mircea_popescu I pushed my table full of flotsam up to electrum [12:54]
PeterL: *electron [12:54]
Yipdard: opened it [12:55]
Yipdard: i am tired from this, there is nothing [12:55]
Yipdard: when i open psclient, i have a error message of a dll, normal? [12:55]
shinohai: Does your attention span falter? [12:56]
jurov: that's why the .bat is there, to set path to the dlls [12:57]
jurov: ofc it will complain if ran otherwise [12:57]
Yipdard: shinohai no [12:59]
Yipdard: so, what to do jurov? [12:59]
jurov: *sigh* install linux? [13:02]
shinohai: kek [13:04]
Yipdard: linux [13:05]
Yipdard: lol [13:05]
Yipdard: it's a joke? [13:05]
shinohai: Sadly, no. [13:05]
PeterL: winblows is a joke [13:06]
Yipdard: bill gates is a joke? [13:06]
PeterL: just not very funny [13:06]
mircea_popescu: hhola. [13:08]
mircea_popescu: PeterL will be right there to take it from ya [13:08]
Yipdard: hey el puta [13:08]
Yipdard: game don't work, can i have a compensation? [13:10]
mircea_popescu: ahaha what ? [13:10]
Yipdard: some btc because it don't work :) [13:11]
mircea_popescu: yeah, like how much, 50 or so ? [13:11]
Yipdard: why not 200 [13:12]
danielpbarron: hahahaha [13:12]
Yipdard: seriously, 0.005 if you want [13:12]
mircea_popescu: heh/ [13:12]
shinohai: The deal was you complete *all* steps no? [13:12]
mircea_popescu: Yipdard if i paid people for being idiots i'd be bankrupt. [13:12]
danielpbarron: ask bill gates right? it's his thing that dun work [13:12]
mircea_popescu: it's kinda how the usg ruined america in the first place. [13:12]
shinohai: I should charge *you* for wasting my time. [13:12]
Yipdard: mircea_popescu yeah, i know that, but this game is to give money for peoples, so... [13:13]
mircea_popescu: check him out lol. [13:13]
mircea_popescu: how do you know what it's for, you've not managed to run it yet ? [13:13]
Yipdard: mircea_popescu guy that played it said it to me, that's all [13:14]
mircea_popescu: in other news, let's sell some tools. [13:14]
PeterL: mircea_popescu do I just leave the table there? [13:15]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, openining 3mn. ETA 17:00 ART sept 3rd [13:15]
mircea_popescu: PeterL works [13:15]
mircea_popescu: but you gotta move further out, you're still guarding it [13:15]
mircea_popescu: ok PeterL trade me for the 2nd ord claim [13:16]
mircea_popescu: and you can take your table back of course [13:16]
mihi: re [13:18]
mircea_popescu: heya. [13:18]
mihi: sorry had to leave yesterday quickly [13:18]
mircea_popescu: eulora isn't going anywhere, dun worry about it. [13:18]
mihi: so how do I go oon now and get an account for eulora? [13:18]
mircea_popescu: lessee [13:18]
mihi: deedbot said my pgp key is registered [13:18]
mircea_popescu: about 1 minute mihi [13:19]
mircea_popescu: mihi http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b5b80175-2ff9-4f37-a980-b2bd2180ea7a/ [13:20]
Yipdard: still nothing for me, game don't run [13:21]
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the problem with it ? [13:21]
Yipdard: when i run the .bat, i see a cmd with some text, then nothing [13:22]
Yipdard: when i run psclien.exe, error [13:22]
mircea_popescu: what error ? [13:22]
mihi: mircea_popescu, thanks :) [13:23]
Yipdard: it says no crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll [13:23]
mihi: Yipdard, what Windows version? Where did you extract it to? [13:23]
mircea_popescu: ^ [13:23]
mihi: (I had to tweak the .bat slightly to work for me too) [13:23]
Yipdard: Windows 8.1, moved it to C/ [13:23]
mircea_popescu: what did you do to it mihi ? [13:24]
Yipdard: what did you do mihi? [13:24]
Yipdard: wtf [13:24]
mihi: Yipdard, 8.1 Home or Pro? [13:24]
Yipdard: mihi pro [13:24]
mihi: right-click the Eulora folder and under Security add "Full access" to your own user (not any group, your own user), for this folder, subfolder and files [13:25]
mihi: then add "pause" to the end of the bat file and click it again (so you will see if still any error occurs) [13:25]
mircea_popescu: mihi if you don't mind adding this to wiki too that'd be helpful. [13:25]
mihi: my final .bat file looks like this, so it will look up script directory, and will pause if an error occurs: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/527c545f-1b72-45ce-8a8f-442f8941ca4b/ [13:26]
Yipdard: mihi have to edit bat file? [13:26]
mihi: Yipdard, you should not have to (if folder is C:\Eulora) but if you do it may be easier to troubleshoot. [13:27]
Yipdard: mihi will do, i am trying [13:27]
Yipdard: tried with your .bat and edited location with C, have now more messages showing [13:29]
Yipdard: but still nothing [13:29]
mihi: Yipdard, can you pastebin the messages you are seeing? [13:31]
mihi: right click on title bar, select Mark, then mark and right-click to copy [13:31]
mihi: mircea_popescu, are there any cpu or performance settings? Even with nothing moving on screen, it completely kills a CPU core here (and makes my notebook fan loud...) [13:34]
mircea_popescu: hm. well, lots of settings in euclient.cfg [13:34]
mircea_popescu: ftr, this is starting to look like some sort of windows issue ; on ubuntu i'm seeing 120+ fps on a 10 yo gfx card with minimal load whatsoever. [13:35]
mihi: or more some graphics issue (I know intel integrated gfx is shitty, but I don't need any shiny shaders if the game is playable) [13:35]
mircea_popescu: feel free to cut things out, game will be fine. [13:36]
mircea_popescu: where's that link one sec [13:36]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-21.log.html#t16:27:06 < there [13:36]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Tuesday, 2015-07-21 (at logs.minigame.bz) [13:37]
mihi: btw I'm in the game now. what to do now for getting bitcoin bonus? [13:37]
mircea_popescu: mihi : /t Mircea hi [13:37]
Yipdard: http://pastebin.com/TinFKmdN [13:37]
lobbesbot: Title: C:\Windows\system32>set CRYSTAL=C:\Eulora\cs C:\Windows\system32>set PATH=C - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) [13:37]
mihi: Yipdard, no output after "psclient"? [13:38]
mircea_popescu: this is starting to look like no 3d gfx. Yipdard do you have a gfx card ? [13:38]
Yipdard: mihi, now, no, but when i tried your .bat, there was something [13:39]
mihi: Yipdard, anything in c:\Eulora\EuloraV0.1.2\errorlog.txt [13:39]
Yipdard: mircea_popescu have a amd card, but i have to active it manually when i run a game [13:39]
mircea_popescu: hm. [13:39]
mircea_popescu: this is likely the culprit i say. what do you mean activate manually ? [13:40]
Yipdard: mihi, no file with this name [13:40]
Yipdard: mircea_popescu, have to go to amd radeon settings, then find the processus, and activate it [13:40]
mircea_popescu: in other news, since i'm setting up to do a large-ish slag run, anyone want shaped slags or anything of the sort ? [13:40]
mircea_popescu: and holy shit, is quality calculation complex. first you gotta get the stacks right ; but THEN you gotta get the bundles right. so recursion. [13:41]
mihi: Yipdard, you can try changing the bat file so it calls "psclient -console", but that will output really a lot (at least for me) before the game starts... [13:42]
Yipdard: mihi, can you do me a pastebin please? [13:43]
mihi: Yipdard, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46989604-b6a5-4bd8-8fb4-13c16cf51092/ [13:44]
Yipdard: mihi, another cmd with something like: "crystal plugin not load" yellow [13:45]
Yipdard: could not load [13:46]
mircea_popescu: mihi ok, you got 1 bitcent. would you like some tasks to make another ? [13:46]
Yipdard: i want to join, fuck it [13:47]
mihi: Yipdard, I have 3 plugins I cannot load, which are renderer.openal, sound.soundmngr, and iSoundManager, and it cannot find several fonts, but it works nevertheless... [13:47]
mihi: (but no sound, not sure if there should be any) [13:48]
mircea_popescu: nah, no sound yet anyway. [13:48]
mircea_popescu: well, greyhawk has some spoken lines etc, but you can just listen to them directly. [13:48]
mihi: mircea_popescu, I think 1 bitcent is enough, I'd rather help Yipdard with getting his too :) [13:49]
mihi: (not so much into medieval setting) [13:49]
Yipdard: mihi, thanks, i am uninstalling crystalpalace to install it again [13:49]
mircea_popescu: you can have it either on blockchain (post address) or else in game (1mn ECu, come trade me whenever) [13:49]
mircea_popescu: mihi in principle nothing keeps you from making your own scifi skin or w/e. client's wide open. [13:50]
mihi: mircea_popescu: 1G16ZUtPUbnUpMvvEkRz5CcUBPaj6rucx [13:50]
mircea_popescu: will do. [13:51]
Yipdard: want to ask something [13:53]
mircea_popescu: shoot [13:53]
Yipdard: so, we have to download the full game, then extract it and move it to C/ [13:53]
mircea_popescu: c/eulora iirc [13:54]
Yipdard: and to install crystal palace, that's it? [13:54]
Yipdard: Yes, folder name "Eulora" [13:54]
mircea_popescu: http://minigame.bz/jurov/ << see the first one there, jurov made complete package. [13:54]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulora Releases by Jurov (at minigame.bz) [13:54]
mihi: bbl [13:54]
Yipdard: that's what i downloaded, the full package and the crystal palace [13:55]
mircea_popescu: that;s what works for most people. [13:55]
Yipdard: ah no, i downloaded: "Eulora version 0.1.2 - Windows 32 package complete (322M) with Crystalspace for new installations." and also crystalspace [13:55]
mircea_popescu: then you prolly have a cs conflict. wipe and start over. [13:56]
jurov: yes crystalspace is included in 0.1.2 [13:56]
Yipdard: so why when i launch psclient.exe jurov, i have an error saying no crystalspace [13:57]
mircea_popescu: because you didn't export the paths and it can't find it. [13:57]
mircea_popescu: that's why the .bat is there. [13:57]
jurov: becaus it needs crystalspace dir in PATH [13:57]
Yipdard: ah, please give me how to do that [13:57]
jurov: and also CRYSTAL environment var set [13:57]
jurov: Yipdard: the .bat sets it [13:58]
jurov: just use the SET commands from .bat file [13:58]
Yipdard: but .bat file don't work [14:00]
jurov: well there's some problem and i need more info [14:02]
jurov: have you tried running with -console as mihi said? [14:02]
Yipdard: yes [14:02]
jurov: i see it did nothing [14:03]
Yipdard: it open another cmd saying "your configuration files are in... "user" [14:03]
jurov: nothing else? [14:03]
Yipdard: and "could not loan plugin crystalspace" [14:03]
jurov: does this file exist? c:\eulora\cs\crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll [14:05]
Yipdard: no [14:05]
Yipdard: ah yes it exist [14:05]
jurov: what was the "your configuration files are in..." exactly? [14:06]
Yipdard: user appdata roaming eulora [14:08]
jurov: you tried removing that directory? [14:08]
Yipdard: nothing there, I tried when mihi said, but nothing [14:10]
jurov: idk, try some other computer [14:13]
mihi: re [14:13]
jurov: i'm going to compile linux binary, you can maybe boot ubuntu livecd and run it from there [14:13]
mircea_popescu: Yipdard dump your vidcard hw model / make / driver version for future reference please [14:14]
Yipdard: AMD Radeon HD 8500M [14:15]
mihi: hmm jurov, you compiled Eulora for Windows? [14:16]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 100 SP, d 10784 ea, opening 3mn ; one stack LBN q 361, opening 3 mn . ETA 17:00 ART sept 3rd [14:16]
mihi: does it need any vcredist DLLs? [14:16]
mircea_popescu: yes, it's what he does, makes the binaries. [14:16]
jurov: mihi yes these are mine: http://minigame.bz/jurov/ [14:16]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulora Releases by Jurov (at minigame.bz) [14:16]
mihi: (I have almost every one here on my machine, so maybe that is why it worked for me) [14:17]
jurov: this is maybe second time ever we could not get it to work [14:17]
mircea_popescu: mihi he's the first of a few dozen windows uisers to die this way. [14:17]
mihi: hmm, let me boot up a naked Win7 VM, and increase error logging. let's see if any DLL is missing :) [14:18]
mircea_popescu: good idea. [14:19]
jurov: Also VS2010 redistributable dll is needed, but it usually complains loudly that vcredistsomething.dll is missing [14:19]
mircea_popescu: mno, i got multiple AMD Radeon HD 8k series here, including 8650G, 8800M etc. [14:20]
mihi: jurov, win10 does not, depending on what error reporting settings you have. it just silently reports via WER to Microsoft (and if your binary is not signed you have no way to get those WER reports from them, and if it is signed I believe they want some money for that too) [14:21]
mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be the video card. [14:21]
shinohai: waves hi to mircea_popescu in game [14:21]
mircea_popescu: o hey. you got yourself a bitcent too! or did you get this before shinohai ? [14:22]
shinohai: I didn't I think you gave me some threads or something last time I was here. [14:22]
jurov: mihi good to know, i'm not a windows guy [14:22]
mircea_popescu: shinohai aite. you want btc or ecu ? [14:22]
shinohai: ecu [14:23]
mircea_popescu: trade me. [14:23]
shinohai: one sec gotta remember how to do all this [14:24]
mircea_popescu: lol. right click me [14:24]
mircea_popescu: and god damned these library mites are hard to get. [14:25]
mihi: jurov, in my experience it is easiest to statically link the runtime, if file size does not matter too much (use /MT instead of /MTd switch to C++ compiler) [14:26]
mircea_popescu: shiny new coin for you! [14:26]
shinohai: yay [14:27]
jurov: mihi the solution is rather sprawling and thinking of messing with MSVC linker fill me with dread [14:27]
mircea_popescu: shinohai says you cancelled it ? did you get the coin ? [14:27]
shinohai: nope I musta clicked off, the fps is a bit laggy [14:28]
mircea_popescu: redo. [14:28]
shinohai: there we go [14:29]
shinohai: thx [14:29]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [14:29]
shinohai: works better than last time though, figured may as well set up if I am going to interact with noobs. [14:30]
Yipdard: what i can do now? :( [14:32]
Yipdard: tried to play yesterday and today [14:33]
Yipdard: nothing [14:33]
Yipdard: diana_coman i love you [14:34]
diana_coman: hello to you too Yipdard [14:34]
Yipdard: diana_coman no [14:35]
mihi: Yipdard, can you try installing https://www.microsoft.com/download/details.aspx?id=5555 (for the language matching to your Windows version)? [14:35]
lobbesbot: Title: Download Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86) from Official Microsoft Download Center (at www.microsoft.com) [14:35]
Yipdard: mihi, what is it? [14:36]
mihi: I just tried on a fresh Win7 VM and I only needed 7-Zip (to unpack jurov's archive) and this redistributable to start it. The graphics look very garbled, but that's probably because VirtualBox emulates crappy graphics card... [14:36]
mihi: it is a library from Microsoft (VC redistributable) which is needed by many programs compiled with Visual C that do not want to mess with the linker options (or make small exes) [14:37]
mihi: you can think of it as common parts needed by many programs, so that the programs can just refer to that DLL instead of all containing the same code... [14:37]
diana_coman: lol Yipdard make up your mind [14:38]
Yipdard: diana_coman just joking lol [14:38]
mircea_popescu: shinohai this makes sense. [14:42]
mircea_popescu: mihi if you're looking, we've been wanting a text-only client for a while. there's some primitives in foxybot to see how it works... [14:43]
shinohai: would jump for joy at a text client. [14:46]
mircea_popescu: cool deal PeterL . another bitcent for you. or do you want ecu ? [14:47]
PeterL: bitcent is cool [14:47]
mircea_popescu: addy ? [14:47]
PeterL: 1CqrPUKZF8QLqmDAGWN68PaGQXLAQLn9cp [14:47]
mircea_popescu: you're still guarding it [14:48]
mircea_popescu: PeterL ok, so let me fish out your next task, a second. [14:50]
mircea_popescu: PeterL trade me please. [14:54]
mircea_popescu: thatr's it. you put the bps in your head, and the grass in inventory. then you say /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 [14:55]
mircea_popescu: and you let it be, it'll be fine till done. [14:55]
PeterL: says Wrong container targeted ? [14:59]
mircea_popescu: so select the table [15:00]
mircea_popescu: right click on it [15:00]
mircea_popescu: PeterL it's got to be on the ground you realise. [15:02]
PeterL: umm, I am clicking on table and nothing is happening? [15:02]
mircea_popescu: no look : you put table on ground. you right-click it. you then say /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 [15:03]
PeterL: I don't have a table, was trying to use the one over there next to you [15:04]
diana_coman: PeterL, you can use the pulic table, but not someone else's table [15:04]
PeterL: where is a public table? [15:05]
diana_coman: the one where foxy is now [15:05]
diana_coman: but you won't get your skill trained (if you have a skill) [15:06]
PeterL: but I can't move while holding so much stuff ... [15:06]
diana_coman: so drag it over... [15:06]
PeterL: how do you get skills? [15:06]
mircea_popescu: PeterL oh oh i think im still guarding it. [15:06]
diana_coman: by using a book [15:06]
mircea_popescu: listen ill move andf you can take it then [15:06]
mircea_popescu: that's your table over there anyway. [15:06]
PeterL: oh, where do you get books? [15:06]
diana_coman: you can buy them [15:07]
diana_coman: from others, lol [15:07]
mircea_popescu: gl [15:08]
mircea_popescu: go aheasd and pick the craft table up PeterL [15:08]
PeterL: still nothing happens when I click on it [15:08]
mircea_popescu: pick it up first [15:08]
mircea_popescu: then drop it, so it's seen as yours. [15:09]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know it occurs to me the interface is about as straightforward as tunisian backstreets. [15:09]
PeterL: hrm, how to pick it up? [15:09]
mircea_popescu: right click and there's a hand-like button [15:09]
PeterL: I got nothing when I right-clicked [15:09]
mihi: mircea_popescu, how long will it take until you give my my 0.01? [15:10]
mircea_popescu: are you close enough ? [15:10]
mircea_popescu: mihi prolly an hour or so ? [15:10]
mircea_popescu: less, really. [15:10]
PeterL: dunno, is there a way to tell? [15:10]
mihi: so you already sent it? Can you give me the txid? [15:10]
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes, it says "you're nto in range" [15:10]
PeterL: nope, just no response when I click on it [15:11]
mircea_popescu: mihi i dunno, it's a process. lemme see here. [15:11]
mircea_popescu: PeterL you might be trying to interact with the public table by heina. yours is over there by electron\ [15:12]
mircea_popescu: there's also a perma-fixed table nobody can pick up. from back in the days the game was getting bootstrapped and nobody actually had a table of his own [15:12]
PeterL: does it have something to do with shinohai standing between me and the table? [15:15]
mircea_popescu: doubt it really ? [15:15]
mircea_popescu: mihi c75ac8e25dd616ab3cf03c402da0052ff002a99bc3de86d2a4d5fe123026787f [15:15]
PeterL: maybe to far away? [15:16]
mircea_popescu: aand PeterL 74db67d134d6e7d36823584466c828be35f5b8cdec45a1e07f559d5c513a97dd [15:16]
mircea_popescu: PeterL so get closer. [15:16]
mihi: mircea_popescu, thanks, got it (got confirmed meanwhile :D) [15:18]
mircea_popescu: cool. [15:22]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i gotta say the numeric notation looks so great now :D [15:23]
PeterL: is there a quick way to pick up a whole stack of stuff from inventory at once? [15:25]
mircea_popescu: hold ctrl [15:25]
PeterL: do I put the grass on the table or leave it in my inventory? [15:29]
PeterL: bot says craft activity finished, but it dun look like anything happened? [15:30]
mircea_popescu: hit a /bot reset [15:34]
mircea_popescu: sometimes it messes state. [15:35]
mircea_popescu: and leave table empty, it knows what to do [15:35]
PeterL: have you noticed things getting mangled while typing them into the command box? [15:36]
mircea_popescu: no ? mangled how ? [15:36]
PeterL: I just tryed to type /bot reset, the first time got /bot rest, the second time got /bot rsete [15:36]
PeterL: like it randomly switches the order of letters [15:37]
mircea_popescu: so simmer down and type properly ? what ? [15:37]
mircea_popescu: no way ? [15:37]
PeterL: or leaves them out entirely [15:37]
mircea_popescu: do /ping what does it say ? [15:37]
PeterL: I have noticed it happening when typing numbers, it does not seem to like getting more than one of the same character in a row [15:37]
PeterL: 83 [15:37]
mircea_popescu: ya that's pretty good. weird. [15:38]
mircea_popescu: maybe this is some weird utf bug ? [15:38]
PeterL: still saying "activity finished" without doing anything [15:40]
mircea_popescu: shinohai [0.06 BTC PAID SO FAR] > [0.08 BTC + 1mn ECu PAID SO FAR] for great justic! [15:40]
mircea_popescu: PeterL what command line are you using ? [15:41]
shinohai: mircea_popescu: updated [15:41]
shinohai: and am I the only person to accept ecu ? [15:41]
shinohai: weird [15:42]
PeterL: I used /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 like you said [15:42]
mircea_popescu: so far. [15:42]
PeterL: If I get this to work I will take ECu next [15:42]
mircea_popescu: PeterL so : 1. you put blueprints in hear ; 2. you put table on ground ; 3. you right click table ; 4. you type /bot reset ; 5. you type /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 [15:43]
mircea_popescu: 1. you put blueprints in head* [15:43]
PeterL: yes [15:43]
mircea_popescu: go through all the steps once for my peace of mind. [15:43]
mircea_popescu: the ecu thing is that well, eulora coppers are freely convertible to btc ; and one-bitcent payments ain't exactly what the network is for. it'll do it, but... [15:45]
shinohai: I kinda thought it'd be spammy to accept a mere bitcent in single tx [15:46]
mircea_popescu: yeah, it kinda is. on the other hand, from the horror stories of the "faucet" community... a bitcent is like this immense sum constituting too wild a promise to accept without PROOF [15:47]
shinohai: Well I have post after post now showing it is for real. I'm gonna need crayons to get any more simple than that. [15:48]
PeterL: mircea_popescu bot told me "wrong container type" again [15:48]
mircea_popescu: ugh. [15:49]
mircea_popescu: listen, ima give you a tink book, maybe you actually need to have the skill and i forget ? [15:49]
mircea_popescu: but don't level it up! till my craft is done. [15:49]
PeterL: ooo, I got some feelings [15:50]
PeterL: (doing manually) [15:51]
mircea_popescu: oh so it does work! [15:51]
PeterL: but it would be nice if the bot worked... [15:51]
PeterL: if I stick in more than 3 grass what happens? [15:52]
mircea_popescu: eh, the bot does work, you're just doing something weird. [15:52]
mircea_popescu: stick in where ? [15:52]
PeterL: on the table? [15:52]
mircea_popescu: no dawg, leave table empty [15:52]
mircea_popescu: bot knows to take from inv what's needed [15:52]
PeterL: I mean if doing without bot [15:52]
mircea_popescu: ah. it dun work. [15:52]
mircea_popescu: go ahead an' try. [15:53]
PeterL: ah, I see [15:53]
mircea_popescu: btw, when you 3. right click table, do you also click that eye which pops up ? [15:53]
PeterL: yes, I cliked on eye [15:55]
PeterL: was that right? [15:56]
mircea_popescu: is thoroughly baffled. [15:56]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [15:56]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron at some point you gotta do a video tutorial of this. [15:56]
shinohai: The bracket at end of log link needs a space (in topic) [15:57]
mircea_popescu: ah k [15:57]
danielpbarron: PeterL, do it once manually with a stopwatch to measure how many seconds it takes [16:09]
danielpbarron: then type /bot craft 6850 <seconds * 1000> [16:10]
PeterL: takes about 10 seconds [16:11]
danielpbarron: so there's your problem, mircea_popescu was telling you to tell it only 1 second [16:11]
danielpbarron: use 10000 as the 2nd number [16:11]
danielpbarron: and leave 'M' out [16:12]
danielpbarron: cft has no range, and the default is M anyway [16:12]
danielpbarron: and i'm not even sure what that 3rd number is [16:13]
danielpbarron: leave that out too [16:13]
PeterL: still says "wrong container type" [16:14]
danielpbarron: do /bot reset and reopen the table [16:14]
PeterL: so now I have 23 coarse frangible threads and 702 petrified tinkerer feelings [16:19]
danielpbarron: is it going on its own now? [16:21]
danielpbarron: and lol at having a noob craft threads (as if there were any demand for feelingses) [16:21]
PeterL: nope, that was just from manualy doing it [16:21]
danielpbarron: what's it say now? [16:22]
PeterL: still says "Wrong container targeted!" [16:23]
danielpbarron: what container are you targeting? [16:23]
PeterL: I'm using a crafting table [16:23]
danielpbarron: sounds like the problem i had to fix in foxybot 2 [16:24]
PeterL: how did you fix it? [16:24]
danielpbarron: but you could only be using the latest version [16:24]
danielpbarron: it shouldn't need a fix [16:24]
danielpbarron: i have bot crafted in the latest version, no modifications requires [16:25]
danielpbarron: if you can manually craft, the bot should also work [16:26]
danielpbarron: interesting if this is specifically a winbl0wz thinh [16:26]
danielpbarron: is it possible the winbl0wz thing has an old version of the bot? [16:27]
danielpbarron: seems implausible [16:27]
danielpbarron: is there anything else in your inventory? maybe try putting everything but the blueprints and grass in your storage for now [16:28]
PeterL: I'm runnin it on ubuntu, so not winblows [16:29]
danielpbarron: ah [16:29]
jurov: http://minigame.bz/jurov/ .deb of 0.1.2 added [16:29]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulora Releases by Jurov (at minigame.bz) [16:29]
shinohai: \o/ jurov [16:29]
danielpbarron: also make sure no other tables are near you [16:29]
PeterL: how to put stuff in storage? [16:29]
shinohai: Even though I already went ahead and built it. xD [16:29]
danielpbarron: not that that should matter, it should use the one you have open [16:29]
danielpbarron: right click either boxy guy and click the empty space in the bottom right corner [16:30]
jurov: shinohai: I'd appreciate if you can test it [16:30]
danielpbarron: it's empty because you're overweight [16:30]
danielpbarron: but it's still clickable [16:30]
shinohai: sure thing jurov [16:31]
danielpbarron: this table of yours PeterL is placed on the ground right? [16:32]
PeterL: umm, yes [16:32]
danielpbarron: i don't know what else to suggest, this is very strange [16:33]
danielpbarron: maybe /unstick [16:33]
danielpbarron: oh if you do get it to work, make sure all your piles of grass are in multiples of 3 [16:36]
danielpbarron: otherwise the bot will get stuck when one gets down to 2 or 1 [16:37]
PeterL: mircea_popescu do you want the petrified feelings or just the threads? [16:42]
diana_coman: PeterL, do you get the error in the bot's window or in main window? [16:43]
PeterL: in the bot window [16:44]
diana_coman: hm,you might have lag [16:44]
PeterL: is there any way around that? [16:44]
diana_coman: there is, but let me figure out something else first [16:45]
diana_coman: does it report any type of container? [16:45]
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> diana_coman you know it occurs to me the interface is about as straightforward as tunisian backstreets <- never seen tunisian backstreets but if they are as crooked as I imagine them to be, then quite, yes [16:46]
mircea_popescu: PeterL all of it [16:46]
PeterL: >Craft-Table (next line) >Wrong container targeted! Kindly target the right container for the task and /bot craft again. [16:47]
diana_coman: do this for me: [16:47]
mircea_popescu: so you right click the table [16:47]
diana_coman: 1. right click on your table and then on the eye icon to open it [16:47]
diana_coman: then /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 [16:47]
diana_coman: if it complains, repeat that [16:47]
diana_coman: without the reset please [16:47]
diana_coman: if you have lag, the contents of the recipe don't make it in time hence the bot confused re what container [16:48]
mircea_popescu: PeterL dun put stuff in storage it'll take forever to get back out [16:48]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman his ping was like 80 though [16:48]
diana_coman: PeterL, does that mean it says first Crafttablel and then an empty line ? (or before that an empty line) [16:49]
diana_coman: one is the container it expect [16:49]
diana_coman: expects, the other one is the container you have targeted [16:49]
diana_coman: so either you have targeted the wrong container or it expects the wrong container (because lag hence bp not made it in time) [16:50]
diana_coman: btw, you DO have the bps in your mind *before* starting the bot , yes? [16:50]
diana_coman: in the brain, equipped [16:50]
diana_coman: all of them, in a stack [16:50]
mircea_popescu: imagines what this game would be old style : without internet ; without dlh ; without manuals. "figure it out" [16:51]
PeterL: it is two consecutive lines, >craft-table >the rest [16:51]
diana_coman: and before >craft-table ? [16:51]
PeterL: yes, bps is sitting on my brain icon [16:51]
PeterL: empty line before >craft-table [16:52]
diana_coman: so that's the thing, yes [16:52]
diana_coman: the bp does not make it in time [16:52]
diana_coman: hence bot expects....no container, lol [16:52]
diana_coman: just restart it *without* reset please [16:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, how would this game be in the first place w/o internet? [16:53]
diana_coman: board game? lol [16:53]
PeterL: >craft activity started. >Reading the recipe... >craft action combining... >Done 0 items, 1 left to do. > {empty line} [16:53]
diana_coman: 1left to do? what did you give it? [16:53]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman hey, most platformers i played i had to figure out the keys by kbd mashing [16:53]
diana_coman: PeterL restart means typing again this: /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 [16:54]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ftr i deliberately gave him all the stacks divisible by 3 so he won't have that problem :D [16:55]
diana_coman: if it says "1 left to do" it means you gave him some weird thing, not that [16:55]
PeterL: I typed it in again and nothing happened [16:56]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, the fact that first number is basically for 1 sec has nothing to do with the trouble here: it means the bot will check every second if the thing is ready, but nothing more [16:56]
diana_coman: hm, let's do this step by step [16:57]
diana_coman: PeterL, first: /bot reset [16:57]
diana_coman: done? [16:57]
PeterL: ok, reset [16:58]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, as to 2nd number that you don't know about: it is the timeout ie after that number of milliseconds the bot will just grab the thing done or not and try again [16:58]
diana_coman: good, now tell me where is the table, what's in it, where are the bps, where is the grass [16:58]
PeterL: still having trouble, I have to pause a couple seconds after the s or it just hears rest [16:58]
diana_coman: that sounds like a weird thing on your machine really, don't know what that is; does your keyboard work fine here or otherwise? [16:59]
diana_coman: it really sounds like some awfully slow client for some reason [16:59]
PeterL: the table is on the ground next to me, nothing in it, bps are on my brain icon, grass is in my inventory [16:59]
mircea_popescu: oh. yeah, that weird misspelling thing may be the culprit [16:59]
diana_coman: good [16:59]
diana_coman: now /bot craft 6852 1000 M 15000 [16:59]
diana_coman: and tell me what it says [16:59]
PeterL: keyboard works fine everywhere except eulora [16:59]
PeterL: >Craft started >reading recipe >craft combining >done 0 items, 6818 left >{empty line} >craft-table >wrong container targeted [17:02]
jhvh1: PeterL: Error: "Craft" is not a valid command. [17:02]
PeterL: oh, hi jhvh1 [17:03]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:03]
PeterL: (I lowered the number since I used some manually crafting) [17:03]
mircea_popescu: there's no real detriment if the number's too big [17:03]
diana_coman: myeah, bot is expecting no container [17:07]
diana_coman: the bp just doesn't make it in time for some reason [17:07]
diana_coman: hm [17:07]
PeterL: where is bp going? It is already in brain [17:07]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so the ping measurement is innacurate ? [17:08]
diana_coman: PeterL, the bot needs to read the bp so it sends message to server to read it; server replies but apparently not quickly enough [17:08]
mircea_popescu: would right clicking on bp fix this ? [17:08]
diana_coman: I suspect his client is for some reason very slow see the typing troule [17:08]
diana_coman: trouble [17:08]
diana_coman: that would be an idea; PeterL try right click on the bp in brain [17:08]
mircea_popescu: you know various people have complained about client being very slow lately ? [17:08]
diana_coman: have they? [17:09]
diana_coman: since when? [17:09]
mircea_popescu: i thought it may be windows-related, but he says he's on ubuntu [17:09]
mircea_popescu: since buncha noobs. [17:09]
diana_coman: weird; did you notice it being slow? [17:09]
PeterL: yeah, client is reaaaaaly slow [17:09]
mircea_popescu: me ? no. for me it's easily the fastest game i ever saw. [17:09]
PeterL: like I click something and a second later it responds [17:10]
mircea_popescu: PeterL are your gfx drivers up to date ? [17:10]
PeterL: hmm, dunno [17:10]
diana_coman: PeterL, type /fps and tell me what it shows [17:10]
diana_coman: also: if you right-clicked on the bp, did it show already the contents? [17:10]
PeterL: 1.03 hiding FPS [17:10]
mircea_popescu: holy hell [17:10]
PeterL: I clicked on the bp, so it has the scroll open, then reset the bot and tried it, still got the error [17:11]
diana_coman: PeterL, that's your trouble there [17:11]
diana_coman: with that fps it's a wonder it works at all [17:11]
mircea_popescu: yeah this is very wrong. how the heck 1fps [17:11]
PeterL: yeah? [17:11]
diana_coman: what graphics card do you have and what driver PeterL ? [17:11]
PeterL: dunno [17:12]
mircea_popescu: always a good sign [17:12]
diana_coman: so look? [17:12]
PeterL: where do I find that? [17:12]
mircea_popescu: lspci grep "VGA" [17:12]
diana_coman: ^ [17:13]
PeterL: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter [17:13]
mircea_popescu: is this an onboard thing on a laptop ? [17:13]
PeterL: laptop [17:13]
diana_coman: sounds like some virtualbox [17:14]
diana_coman: are you running it inside a virtual machine? [17:14]
mircea_popescu: lspci -v grep "VGA" -A 1 [17:14]
mircea_popescu: plox [17:14]
PeterL: yes, is that bad? [17:14]
diana_coman: virtual machines are horrible for graphics support [17:14]
mircea_popescu: oh for the love of lolz. [17:14]
diana_coman: but really, why PeterL ? [17:14]
mircea_popescu: yes it's bad. this is the known achiles heel of virtual machines : they fuck up gfx [17:14]
mircea_popescu: why did you think alf was raging about how x without gfx is pointless. [17:14]
PeterL: because that's where I got it to build and run? [17:14]
diana_coman: PeterL, what do you have on your host machine? [17:15]
mircea_popescu: well yes but it has so many layers to go through that your video card ram is hitting new pages only, so works horribly. [17:15]
PeterL: host is winblows [17:15]
diana_coman: what OS? [17:15]
diana_coman: so run it on winblows ffs [17:15]
diana_coman: get jurov's binary and run it there [17:15]
mircea_popescu: so you're running windows -> virtual machine -> ubuntu -> eulora ? [17:15]
PeterL: aha, will give that a try [17:16]
diana_coman: that's what I understood mircea_popescu [17:16]
PeterL: umm, yeah [17:16]
mircea_popescu: jus' making sure, it's pretty unexpected [17:16]
mircea_popescu: ah yeah ok. well PeterL this isn't really how anyone else'd do it. as a rule of thumb, virtual machines are for anything but games. [17:16]
diana_coman: heh mircea_popescu I ran all sorts of combinations really so I don't find it totally unexpected (although it quite manages to stick to the letter while eschewing all the points to it to my mind but hey) [17:17]
mircea_popescu: i was here holding my own jaw in place cuz wtf. [17:18]
mircea_popescu: i have to limit its fps on ancient thinkpad because otherwise it tries for 70. [17:18]
wyrdmantis: i'm running mac, virtualbox, ubuntu, eulora [17:20]
wyrdmantis: and it's crap but it works [17:20]
diana_coman: will never understand what do people have for the half-munched apple [17:21]
diana_coman: and I must say I *did* use apples plenty at uni [17:21]
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis why not just compile it for your os ? [17:21]
mircea_popescu: or wait, we don't actually have a working osx yet ? [17:21]
wyrdmantis: i tried, it does not works [17:21]
mircea_popescu: aha [17:21]
wyrdmantis: i also gave to phf the error logz [17:22]
PeterL: my os does not know what to do with this archive file, , having to install an unzippler [17:22]
wyrdmantis: back months ago [17:22]
mircea_popescu: PeterL can just copy over from the virtual box lol [17:23]
wyrdmantis: diana_coman i know, but i hate windows and can't use ubuntu for works [17:23]
diana_coman: wyrdmantis, is that the work laptop? or do you work on your own laptop or how does it go? [17:24]
mircea_popescu: most people doing printing/graphics/movies etc tend to use macs for some reason [17:24]
diana_coman: I can say why: because pretty [17:24]
mircea_popescu: macs used to work better for eg typographic work. back in the 90s [17:25]
wyrdmantis: yes, i admit, retina screen is pretty [17:25]
diana_coman: same thing: pretty fonts etc [17:25]
shinohai: Pretty is being able to decently compile code and watch it run on a non-locked down pc [17:25]
shinohai: Also, jurov your new .deb seems to work fine for me w/ addition of libjpeg8 [17:27]
rowtan: Hi di I need to create an account here if I registered with deedbot? [18:21]
rowtan: *do [18:21]
shinohai: yes [18:21]
shinohai: ask mircea_popescu to make one for you [18:21]
rowtan: Thanks [18:22]
mircea_popescu: heya [21:16]
mircea_popescu: heh [21:16]
mircea_popescu: shinohai how's teh log coming along ? [21:53]
shinohai: Terrible, bot listens for incoming log messages just fine, but when I write a message from Eulora, tail seems to just drop the connection [21:55]
shinohai: Also, it shows my whispers. not good lol [21:55]
mircea_popescu: why not ? it's not intended to be your character ; i'll just make you a dedicated npc for it. [21:56]
mircea_popescu: we get to test the bot-npc with this. [21:57]
mircea_popescu: btw shinohai you avail do to a thing for me ? [22:16]
shinohai: in game? [22:16]
mircea_popescu: yeh [22:16]
shinohai: lemme fire up client, whatch need? [22:17]
mircea_popescu: trade me ill give you some stuff, you put it in and do a craft click [22:17]
mircea_popescu: should be 1-2 hrs [22:17]
shinohai: isn't auto, manual clicks? [22:17]
mircea_popescu: single click [22:18]
shinohai: oh ok, never done any crafting yet so I am as green as others [22:18]
mircea_popescu: cool, trade me [22:18]
mircea_popescu: it's guaranteed pop, too. [22:19]
mircea_popescu: so you'll see your name in lights. [22:19]
mircea_popescu: accept this [22:21]
shinohai: kk [22:21]
mircea_popescu: now pick up those things at your feet [22:21]
mircea_popescu: wear the shoes, drop the screens, then put the recipe in your head, the four things in the screens, and click the finger button [22:21]
shinohai: wut one sec [22:22]
shinohai: my slow fps [22:22]
mircea_popescu: lol are you also in a virtualbox ? [22:22]
shinohai: No on Debian Jessie [22:23]
shinohai: I have no idea what just happened lol [22:24]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [22:24]
shinohai: have to restart it crashed [22:24]
mircea_popescu: aite [22:25]
shinohai: I can no longer see my character just you guys in front of me [22:26]
mircea_popescu: i see ya [22:26]
shinohai: did I pick up all the stuff? [22:27]
mircea_popescu: yeh [22:27]
shinohai: so how do I get the finger button to come up? [22:27]
mircea_popescu: drop the screens and right click onthewm [22:27]
shinohai: screen froze again [22:29]
shinohai: this sucks [22:30]
mircea_popescu: hm [22:30]
shinohai: Dropped them but right click isnt doing anything :/ [22:30]
mircea_popescu: i really wish i got a good feeler on wtf this "very slow" bug is. it's fucking insane, the client is EXTREMELY lightweight. [22:30]
mircea_popescu: you dropped way the fuck far out, seem out of range [22:31]
mircea_popescu: get closer. [22:31]
mircea_popescu: i can tell your connection is shit just by how weird your toon is acting [22:31]
shinohai: its weird because it doesnt slow down my lappy at all [22:32]
mircea_popescu: gotta be some vidcard strange. [22:33]
shinohai: I may have to give items back and let you have someone else do it I cant even move now [22:33]
mircea_popescu: im in no particular rush [22:34]
shinohai: If I find in the logs that fix chetty mentioned ill have to recompile correct? [22:35]
mircea_popescu: nope [22:35]
mircea_popescu: just restart, [22:35]
mircea_popescu: shinohai but listen, don't leave the screens laying on the ground, they'l lget swept. [22:36]
shinohai: im trying to come back in one sec [22:36]
mircea_popescu: kk [22:36]
mircea_popescu: ima bbs [22:36]
shinohai: now I dont see the screens [22:38]

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