| mircea_popescu: | hey diana_coman - i looted 3 sentiments! | [03:54] |
| diana_coman: | heh, congrats | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | I looted some flags yest | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | doing bms | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | well sure, flags i have plenty. | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | but afaik these are the first sentiments in game. | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | and quite low oc at that too - guess it's about the volume | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | what? | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, no | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh ? | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | I have low q sentiments looted by my noobs | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | plenty of those | [03:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm./ | [03:55] |
| diana_coman: | and iirc danielpbarron reported looting some sentiments in the very beginning too | [03:56] |
| diana_coman: | it's just that Foxy did not loot yet any sentiments, but that's not surprising for me anymore,lol | [03:56] |
| diana_coman: | she's not great at looting | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | well my first anyway | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | then again i didn't do much oc tink. | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is one of the first times. | [03:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway. bbl. | [03:57] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i've looted plenty of sentiments | [10:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | a cool then. | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | must have been just me not doing enough tink oc | [10:51] |
| alikim: | has anyone successfully compiled the client as decribed here http://svn.code.sf.net/p/planeshift/code/trunk/docs/compiling.html ? | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | alikim, eulora client is *based* on planeshift's client, but not exactly planeshift's client; quite a number of people compiled the client obv, since you downloaded a binary, no?; check the wiki for instructions http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora | [14:49] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | kind of curious how do you think the foxybot was made *without* compiling the client, lol | [14:50] |
| alikim: | I compiled the client following instructions that I just posted | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | cool, so then? | [14:52] |
| alikim: | when I try to log in it says "You are not running the correct version of Eulora. Please update your client." | [14:53] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [14:53] |
| diana_coman: | because you compiled a planeshift client, not a eulora client, obv | [14:53] |
| diana_coman: | hence what I said above | [14:53] |
| alikim: | those instruction are the same link I posted | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | probably you got the wrong code though | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | the wiki has links to right code etc; really: eulora is not the same thing as planeshift, end of. | [14:55] |
| alikim: | If someone who compiled it first hand could tell me what I'm doing wrong that'd be great | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | how could someone do that exactly? not as if I can tell from here what you are doing ; the steps are on the wiki, get the files from there, follow that and then if something goes wrong come and ask; ftr plenty of people followed the steps there for linux and compiled it and logged in no problem | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | from what you say I can tell you what you are doing wrong: you got the planeshift client's code instead of eulora's clietn code | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | no wonder you can't connect to eulora server with a planeshift client | [15:00] |
| alikim: | I'm trying to compile libgui project from \EuloraV0.1.1\mk\msvc10\wkspstypical.sln and I'm getting lots of errors like these http://dpaste.com/0GNN0VT, does anyone know how to fix it? | [16:27] |
| jurov: | alikim: smells too new MSVS. You should use MSVS 2010 | [16:29] |
| alikim: | ok , thanks, do I have to uninstall 2015 before that or can they both co-exist? | [16:30] |
| jurov: | if you don't use it for anything else, uninstall it | [16:37] |
| alikim: | kk thanks | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim> If someone who compiled it first hand could tell me what I'm doing wrong that'd be great << you're probably using the wrong source. | [17:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah nm\ | [17:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey check it out, i popped making us. | [17:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | 45k feeelins' | [17:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim gotta finish this scaffolding, be like 40 mins or so. then ill make you a craft table and buy your stuff / sell you lbn | [18:13] |
| alikim: | sure let me know I'll log, I'm trying to compile the game right now | [18:20] |
| alikim: | do you also have a higher than 100 q bit? I'd probably buy one for testing along with a few 100q | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | alikim, Birdman does | [18:34] |
| alikim: | how much are they? | [18:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got q 200ish yeah | [19:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim aite got your table made. | [19:04] |
| alikim: | just a min pls | [19:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk. | [19:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | how many bits did you want ? | [19:09] |
| alikim: | first I need to sell my stuff to see how much money I have | [19:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | k. | [19:12] |
| alikim: | it says you are busy | [19:13] |
| alikim: | that's all | [19:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk lemme see here | [19:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh, i don't want the tiny enums. | [19:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | (185 * 71 + 184 * 58 + 93 * 67 + 463 * 159) * 0.01 * 1.15 = 1192.0325 | [19:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | going up in the world! | [19:16] |
| alikim: | thanks yea I rock | [19:16] |
| alikim: | how much is 200q bit? | [19:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | pick up that table :) | [19:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can have q 262 lbn for 100 ea, up to another 98 or so iirc ? | [19:17] |
| alikim: | I wanted to try two diff q to see how it changes things | [19:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah. so want q 195 also ? | [19:18] |
| danielpbarron: | don't mix them! | [19:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya srsly, careful to keep them separate. put in table or drop on ground. they mix otherwise. | [19:20] |
| danielpbarron: | alikim, they will mix in your inventory unless you go out of your way to keep them from touching | [19:20] |
| alikim: | maybe 3 of each for me to test, and maybe one more higher if you have like q400 I can pay 400 for it | [19:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope, 262 is the highest i got. | [19:21] |
| alikim: | will they mix after I trade you? | [19:21] |
| danielpbarron: | yes | [19:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i give you one set first, then you drop that and i give other set. | [19:21] |
| danielpbarron: | they will mix if you move one into your inventory while the other is already there | [19:21] |
| alikim: | what is the table for? | [19:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | storage if nothing else. | [19:21] |
| danielpbarron: | you can keep them separate in your storage or in a craft table | [19:21] |
| alikim: | ok so I trade you and drag them on the table? | [19:22] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [19:22] |
| alikim: | oh wait I have some crappy ones in my inv already from keys | [19:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | drop them on ground. | [19:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | or put them in storage | [19:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | storage safest option by far imo | [19:23] |
| alikim: | I put them inside table container | [19:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [19:24] |
| alikim: | what's the formula for mixing bits of diff q? | [19:54] |
| danielpbarron: | the average rounded down to nearest integer | [19:58] |
| alikim: | doesn't look like | [20:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you have 3 q 11 and 4 q 200 it will be (3 * 11 + 4 * 200) / (3+4) = 119 | [20:00] |
| alikim: | yeah but you gave me 3 of them and they mixed up | [20:02] |
| alikim: | with 4 of mine | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | so adjust teh formula. | [20:02] |
| alikim: | well I have 7 of 118 | [20:02] |
| alikim: | should be 90 ish | [20:03] |
| alikim: | you sold me 3 for 300, right? | [20:03] |
| alikim: | they mixed in a table and became 4, then I dragged them back, they separated and it seems the q got swapped | [20:04] |
| alikim: | between two bundles | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | (4 * 11 + 3 * 262) / (3+4) = 118.571428571 | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, 118 | [20:05] |
| alikim: | ah you sold me 262 both times? | [20:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | ye | [20:06] |
| alikim: | kk | [20:06] |
| alikim: | will keys turn into bit while stored? | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc yea | [20:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | only if item's unlocked tho | [20:15] |
| danielpbarron: | Tue Apr 5 21:51:04 2016, ,-178.85,38.11,-146.81,Tiny Clump of Dry Grass Exploration Marker ,514 | [21:59] |
| danielpbarron: | profit of 45k in base value terms | [22:00] |
| danielpbarron: | alikim, ^^ u jelly? | [22:00] |
| alikim: | no I'm happy for you | [22:01] |
| danielpbarron: | btw that's a log line from foxybot, the 514 at the end is number of grass units found from that one claim | [22:02] |
| danielpbarron: | i used a quality 97 bit | [22:02] |
| danielpbarron: | grass came out 148 quality | [22:02] |
| alikim: | well you have books and skills and stuff so yeah | [22:03] |
| alikim: | all I have is level 25 in exploration | [22:03] |
| danielpbarron: | gathering* | [22:03] |
| danielpbarron: | i have one of if not the highest gathering rank | [22:04] |
| danielpbarron: | got the 2nd tier skillbook named after me | [22:04] |
| alikim: | what is your rank? | [22:05] |
| danielpbarron: | over 500 now | [22:05] |
| alikim: | nice | [22:05] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess that now means i produce high quality exploration markers | [22:06] |
| danielpbarron: | and maybe i have a better chance than most at finding the exceptionally big markers | [22:07] |
| danielpbarron: | i once found a 'sizeable' claim that came with an ennumeration worth several million in 'base value' | [22:08] |
| alikim: | this table screwed me up again, lost all my threads to a tiny claim | [22:08] |
| danielpbarron: | the bundle is worth like a third of a bitcoin or something | [22:08] |
| danielpbarron: | no you didn't | [22:08] |
| danielpbarron: | that's not possible | [22:08] |
| alikim: | I mean I got some branches from it that are cheaper than threads | [22:09] |
| danielpbarron: | threads don't go into tiny claims | [22:09] |
| danielpbarron: | do you mean a small claim? | [22:09] |
| alikim: | I found small | [22:09] |
| danielpbarron: | and the resulting branches are worth less than the threads that went in? sounds about right | [22:10] |
| danielpbarron: | in general, overcrafting loses you value until it finally pops | [22:10] |
| danielpbarron: | like my tiny that made 500+ | [22:10] |
| alikim: | yeah it shouldn't have happened but the bot found my threads inside the table | [22:10] |
| danielpbarron: | although all my tinies are probably profitable, the loss comes from the smalls mostly | [22:10] |
| danielpbarron: | oh you didn't want it to build smalls? | [22:11] |
| danielpbarron: | what are you doing with your smalls then? | [22:11] |
| alikim: | ofc not | [22:11] |
| danielpbarron: | i might want to buy them | [22:11] |
| alikim: | not the cheapest material at least | [22:11] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i let my smalls lock, and then i go back later to build them, so as to keep the tiny and small qualities separate | [22:12] |
| danielpbarron: | and this also lets me use my old high quality ennumerations i have saved up | [22:12] |
| alikim: | I'll try to compile the game then write by own bot | [22:12] |
| danielpbarron: | you're on winbl0wz? | [22:13] |
| alikim: | I lost a lot of money because of this bot | [22:13] |
| alikim: | and today is the worst day | [22:13] |
| danielpbarron: | what's a lot? | [22:13] |
| danielpbarron: | i think 'a lot' to you is what i get for free every day | [22:13] |
| alikim: | a few hunders of copper | [22:14] |
| danielpbarron: | not even | [22:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron great find eh. | [22:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | tiny > ord | [22:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim eh dun sweat a few coppers ; that's how you learn the ropes, burning a little. | [22:18] |
| danielpbarron: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YCM2gyCLhc << alikim check this out | [22:19] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: My Daily Bezzle - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | [22:19] |
| alikim: | how much are those threads? | [22:19] |
| danielpbarron: | what threads? | [22:20] |
| danielpbarron: | 180 copper for 100 quality, if going by the price Electron will pay | [22:21] |
| alikim: | that mircea gave me at the beginning | [22:21] |
| danielpbarron: | what quality were they? | [22:21] |
| alikim: | I don't know | [22:21] |
| alikim: | mircea: can you trade again? | [22:47] |
| Birdman: | i could barehanded gather for a week before i get a level in farming | [22:57] |
| Birdman: | its like a cursed skill line | [22:57] |
| alikim: | how much is a q300 bit? | [23:42] |
| alikim: | or q400? | [23:42] |
| danielpbarron: | base value is something like 33 and 44 | [23:43] |
| danielpbarron: | quality adjusted whatever | [23:43] |
| danielpbarron: | Electron price | [23:43] |
| alikim: | so for 400 it's 44*400? | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | nono, 11*4 | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | 44 total for 1 bit quality 400 | [23:44] |
| alikim: | I buy q100 for 100 ea | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | bits are one of those items that sell for way over actual value | [23:44] |
| danielpbarron: | among players | [23:45] |
| danielpbarron: | electron is savage | [23:45] |
| alikim: | yes so what the player price? | [23:45] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman, ^ | [23:45] |
| Birdman: | i wanted over 1:1 ecu:quality on my high quality bits | [23:46] |
| alikim: | how much money? | [23:47] |
| Birdman: | well i have a bunch of q 331 bits i'd let go for 400 each | [23:47] |
| alikim: | ok thanks | [23:50] |
| Birdman: | just ping me if you're interested | [23:51] |
| alikim: | sure I'm just trying to calculate what I need | [23:52] |
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