#eulora Logs for 21 Feb 2016



February 21st, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: smalls use 7x cft tinies 1 lbn tho [00:49]
Birdman: i have it on 1:1 [00:50]
Birdman: only one thread [00:50]
mircea_popescu: a [00:50]
Birdman: undercraft on my own threads [00:50]
danielpbarron: shakes head in disbelief [00:50]
Birdman: Heh ill keep details from now on [00:50]
danielpbarron: btw it's 1:1 when using 7 generally [00:50]
Birdman: 1 thread to one lbn [00:51]
danielpbarron: for me at least [00:51]
Birdman: per use in claims respectively [00:51]
Birdman: which i see goes down more is the one its finding more often [00:51]
danielpbarron: interesting if that's what choosing from 1 to 7 is for, to fine tune it to your own tiny/small hit rate so that you use bits and threads at about the same rate [00:51]
mircea_popescu: apparently it could be [00:52]
Birdman: that was my understanding, can add the value from 1-7 cft [00:52]
Birdman: ill keep a close eye on it to see [00:53]
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/ministry-of-games-eulora-enters-public-beta/ << ahh remember teh days... [01:08]
lobbesbot: Title: Ministry of Games: Eulora Enters Public Beta Qntra (at qntra.net) [01:08]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 3.9mn on the cft [05:45]
mircea_popescu: selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.9mn heard diana_coman , eta 19:30 art [08:02]
mircea_popescu: sorry everyone - server will be coming down briefly again for more patching. [08:13]
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be long. [08:13]
mircea_popescu: server back on, sorry for the interruption. [08:42]
jurov: has anyone quantified how much more stuff q157 fetches over q100? [10:57]
jurov: the cft [10:57]
mircea_popescu: in this case it seems to be about 138\% vs 125\% so far. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: of course as far as i know it costs me absolutely nothing more to make q 157 than it would cost one to make q 107. so in that sense the differential is pretty marked. [11:02]
mircea_popescu: ie, either get 180 * 1.07 * 1.25 = 240.75 or else get 180 * 1.57 * 1.38 = 389.988 ie 162\% [11:03]
Gaxaro: Hello! [11:37]
jurov: hi Gaxaro [11:41]
Gaxaro: So yeah i been active for 2 days now since i joined yesterday lol [11:43]
Gaxaro: Still a noob tho lol [11:43]
danielpbarron: you gonna watch the auction? [11:46]
Gaxaro: How i do that? [11:47]
Gaxaro: Also i got something called little bit of nothing? [11:48]
jurov: Gaxaro: keys convert to these bits after their claim vanish [11:50]
jurov: and the bits are used to mine tiny claims [11:50]
Gaxaro: Oh okay [11:50]
Gaxaro: Someone said i should increase gathering level because it makes give me a slight chance of finding something [11:51]
danielpbarron: the auction is in town in 8 minutes [11:52]
Gaxaro: Btw i saw your youtube videos danielpbarron [11:54]
danielpbarron: oh yeah? [11:55]
Gaxaro: Yup. [11:56]
danielpbarron: what's your favorite? [11:57]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i can't seem to access my bank account anymore ? I get the error "You can't access your bank account while doing nothing." [11:59]
Gaxaro: I cannot seem to use the bot explore anymore, it always stops after awhile saying this message https://gyazo.com/8af4362ca0c76f69206deb7a40835cae the one at the very bottom [11:59]
lobbesbot: Title: Gyazo - 8af4362ca0c76f69206deb7a40835cae.png (at gyazo.com) [11:59]
danielpbarron: ah, probably related then [11:59]
Gaxaro: then after that it does nothing at all [11:59]
danielpbarron: oh great last thing i did before logging out was use my bezzle bags [12:00]
danielpbarron: phew still in storage [12:00]
Gaxaro: I did like the A Butch Man's Buttered Scones btw [12:03]
danielpbarron: heh, but that couldn't possibly be very exciting for you [12:04]
danielpbarron: that skill looks like any other skill to you i would think [12:04]
danielpbarron: i think the music is what makes it fun [12:05]
danielpbarron: i crack myself up as i'm putting the finishing touches on [12:05]
danielpbarron: i may start to record myself talking eventually; the youtube editor makes it exteremely easy to edit the video and sound independantly from each other [12:06]
Gaxaro: So do you know what is wrong on the bot explore btw [12:06]
danielpbarron: try /bot stop [12:07]
danielpbarron: and start over [12:07]
danielpbarron: ok for completeness i tried doing my banking while exploring since "doing something" [12:09]
danielpbarron: it says "can't access while working" [12:09]
danielpbarron: bit of a catch-22 going on here [12:09]
Gaxaro: What other kind of skill books can i get for gather? [12:12]
danielpbarron: mining is probably the easiest to get at the moment [12:15]
danielpbarron: 3 people selling it [12:15]
danielpbarron: ah my bad, it's at 3 pm apparently [12:44]
jurov: 20:00GMT. no? [12:47]
danielpbarron: in 2 hours i think [12:48]
diana_coman: Gaxaro, that looks like you messed up some time params or something [12:49]
diana_coman: it's exactly what it says [12:49]
diana_coman: and ftr I am running the bot explore right now without any trouble [12:50]
diana_coman: been doing it for a few hours [12:50]
Gaxaro: Well it aint working for me lol [12:53]
Gaxaro: I just do /bot explore 500 line 1 7 [12:53]
Gaxaro: that's all i do [12:53]
diana_coman: lolz Gaxaro [12:55]
diana_coman: use line 2 or something [12:55]
diana_coman: you might have some lag too which messes it up possibly [12:55]
Gaxaro: hmm okay also im stuck, i need someone to come to me and buy the 1007 shiny rock i have on me lol [12:58]
Gaxaro: So i can move again lol [12:59]
jurov: haha ok i can buy [13:00]
jurov: For 50k. Your position? [13:01]
Gaxaro: Here i am https://gyazo.com/e55ac88f29fbc6c0f07327e2838acd61 [13:02]
lobbesbot: Title: Gyazo - e55ac88f29fbc6c0f07327e2838acd61.png (at gyazo.com) [13:02]
jurov: haha,is it really faster than typing? [13:05]
jurov: only first and third number matters, the middle one is elevation [13:05]
jurov: "You can't access your bank account while doing nothing" ..now that's new to me [13:11]
jurov: any idea? [13:12]
danielpbarron: i got same thing [13:16]
diana_coman: Gaxaro, drop /move/pickup repeat [13:19]
diana_coman: all the way to town [13:19]
diana_coman: I can bank [13:19]
diana_coman: dunno what you guys are doing [13:20]
Gaxaro: Can i increase weight somehow? [13:20]
Gaxaro: Also i wanna buy that book which gives you mining under gather :P [13:20]
diana_coman: maybe delete char and get a new one until you get one with higher weight? [13:20]
Gaxaro: Anyway can i only use a blueprint once? [13:22]
diana_coman: Gaxaro, sure, it was about 4 mn iirc [13:22]
diana_coman: only once [13:22]
diana_coman: lol [13:22]
Gaxaro: Bummer [13:22]
diana_coman: 4mn re the mining skill item [13:23]
diana_coman: only once re bp [13:23]
danielpbarron: who's selling for 4 mn again? [13:23]
diana_coman: wasn't that hanbot ? I might have remembered the price wrongly [13:24]
Gaxaro: Anyway i made 1k shiny rock again lol [13:26]
diana_coman: so I'll buy it and give you tools or thread or both [13:26]
Gaxaro: 75 thread left to use [13:26]
Gaxaro: Once you become good it seems like thread goes on a lot lol [13:28]
diana_coman: you became good? [13:28]
Gaxaro: Well with the skills raising them up in level lol [13:29]
fghj: aaaaaaaaand another crap for sale 9999 flotsam 4927, shiny rock (q5) from 1 million coppers to +6h [13:31]
danielpbarron: 1mn here [13:32]
Gaxaro: 100mn is 1 bitcoin i think? lol [13:32]
danielpbarron: yes [13:32]
diana_coman: hm, now I got that bank trouble too [13:32]
jurov: you mean 9999 flotsam and 4927 shiny rock? [13:32]
fghj: yes [13:33]
jurov: 1.05mn [13:35]
danielpbarron: 1.11 [13:37]
jurov: 1.17m [13:38]
Gaxaro: gonna need more thread soon lol [13:38]
Gaxaro: How much \% do they take from withdraw of the copper to satoshi? [13:42]
jurov: Gaxaro: I am doing it only with transaction fee [13:42]
Gaxaro: So for example if i was to withdraw 100mn then how much would you take off from that? [13:43]
jurov: if you say you want 0.001 btc transaction fee, you'll get the rest 0.999 btc [13:43]
Gaxaro: oh cool [13:44]
Gaxaro: I'm liking the game tho and i cannot wait to see more features [13:44]
jurov: also, if noone else sells you better, i have q 97 thread @ 215 [13:45]
Gaxaro: Well the more thread for me the better lol [13:45]
Gaxaro: I only have 50k copper on me atm lol [13:45]
Gaxaro: Maybe i should focus on crafting my own thread [13:46]
danielpbarron: 1.23mn fghj [13:46]
danielpbarron: Gaxaro, i have a shop http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt [13:47]
jurov: Gaxaro: the quality matters for mining. your thread will be q 5 maybe and you'll get only few pieces of any output [13:47]
danielpbarron: ^ this. but feel free to give it a shot and confirm for yourself [13:47]
jurov: and 50000/215 is 232 cft, should keep you for a while [13:47]
danielpbarron: should result in 10k shiny rock or so [13:49]
danielpbarron: or 8k [13:50]
jurov: fghj: 1.292m [13:51]
danielpbarron: i still can't bank [13:55]
Gaxaro: hmm i accidently got some widows berries [13:56]
jurov: enjoy [13:57]
danielpbarron: not sure anyone wants low quailty berries [13:58]
Gaxaro: To be honest, i don't even have a bitcoin wallet lol [13:58]
Gaxaro: I'm not even sure how to make one lol [13:58]
danielpbarron: you don't need one; you got a Eulora account [13:58]
danielpbarron: but if you want a side project, you could try to make a bitcoin node : http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin [14:00]
lobbesbot: Title: the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] (at wiki.bitcoin-assets.com) [14:00]
Gaxaro: Alright i have 2265 shiny rock for sale [14:23]
Gaxaro: But first i need to head to the store, brb in like 5 min [14:23]
danielpbarron: where's the bidding start? [14:25]
danielpbarron: i'll go by your last price, and offer 100k [14:26]
diana_coman: lol, shiny rock goes for at least 0.8 as far as I know, so that's 143k for 2265 [14:38]
danielpbarron: is that your bid? [14:42]
diana_coman: sure [14:43]
danielpbarron: 151k [14:43]
jurov: 159k [14:47]
Birdman: <Gaxaro>What other kind of skill books can i get for gather? << none atm [14:48]
Birdman: mining is under building [14:48]
Birdman: at least thats my impression [14:48]
Birdman: also dont forget i want half of whatever you find [14:48]
diana_coman: <Birdman> also dont forget i want half of whatever you find <- o.o [14:49]
danielpbarron: no it's under gathering [14:49]
diana_coman: what a deal, lol [14:49]
Birdman: well i gave em the toold [14:49]
Birdman: tools [14:49]
diana_coman: good on you Birdman [14:49]
danielpbarron: that was the deal [14:49]
diana_coman: and yes, mining is under gather [14:49]
Birdman: So you rank up mining by gathering? [14:49]
diana_coman: wut? [14:49]
diana_coman: lol, no [14:50]
diana_coman: or not that I ever saw [14:50]
danielpbarron: no, but they are in the same tab [14:50]
diana_coman: but it is in that tab [14:50]
Birdman: weird [14:50]
danielpbarron: gathering, sortage, mining, lumberjack, farming. all in the same tab [14:50]
Gaxaro: I know birdman lol [14:50]
Birdman: :/ [14:50]
Gaxaro: also back [14:50]
Gaxaro: birdman meet me at the storage npc [14:51]
Birdman: im there, you ran through all those tools already [14:52]
Birdman: ? [14:52]
Gaxaro: Well i didn't have any luck finding much lol [14:52]
Gaxaro: i mostly done shiny rocks [14:52]
Gaxaro: But since my gathering level sucks its harder to find stuff i guess lol [14:53]
Birdman: shinky rock sucks to gather in the first place [14:53]
diana_coman: I thought you became "good at it" ? [14:53]
Gaxaro: No i meant that you become good at it as higher level you have i think lol [14:53]
Birdman: should've done grass like i said [14:53]
jurov: Gaxaro did ii win the auction? [14:53]
Gaxaro: You did? [14:54]
Gaxaro: Anyway birdman meet me so i can trade you [14:54]
mircea_popescu: soooo, everyone ready for auction shortyl ? [14:55]
jurov: i bid 159k [14:55]
Birdman: yeah! [14:55]
Birdman: danielpbarron i have your claims [14:55]
jurov: Gaxaro, but i should have named you, my bad [14:55]
Birdman: 7 ss though considering the bug with cs [14:55]
danielpbarron: 167k [14:56]
danielpbarron: how is that on me? [14:56]
mircea_popescu: Birdman no bug with cs! [14:56]
danielpbarron: you have extra sticks [14:56]
Birdman: its not on me [14:56]
danielpbarron: lol how do i take the loss for ~you~ doing it wrong? [14:56]
Birdman: did i get refunded sticks? [14:56]
Birdman: i didnt, i didnt get paid for using them [14:56]
Birdman: no exp [14:56]
Birdman: soo.. [14:57]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron o.O will hafta be looked into won't it. hopefully tomorrow patch for it. [14:57]
danielpbarron: the bank thing? [14:57]
mircea_popescu: ya [14:57]
Gaxaro: birdman accept btw [14:57]
Birdman: you have more right Gaxaro ? [14:57]
Gaxaro: Yes [14:57]
Gaxaro: read what i said in local btw [14:58]
Gaxaro: put what i gave you in storage [14:58]
Gaxaro: so i can give you more [14:58]
Birdman: is that it? [14:58]
hanbot: Gaxaro ftr you can take stuff out of storage and put it on the ground nearby while you get more out, then pick it all up and have whoever's trading with you initiate. as long as you don't leave the area while your stuff is there other players can't pick it up (but obvs don't leave it there indefinitely) [14:59]
Gaxaro: oh okay [15:00]
Gaxaro: that's all i have birdman [15:00]
Birdman: so half of all this is mine? [15:00]
Gaxaro: gave you every single rescoures lol [15:00]
Birdman: trade me [15:00]
Birdman: thanks [15:02]
Gaxaro: Np [15:04]
Gaxaro: So yeah where is the grass at btw Birdman [15:04]
Birdman: ftr foxybot does have the value for # of threads [15:06]
Birdman: danielpbarron so you really want me to eat those 3 misses? the deal is to give you the results of a cs, and that unfortunately yielded 3 misses and no exp ~somehow~, i dont get where im at fault here [15:12]
DicePower: Helloooooooooo! [15:19]
Birdman: Hey there [15:20]
DicePower: How is everyone today? [15:24]
mircea_popescu: auction just ended lol [15:24]
DicePower: Is that a good thing? :P [15:25]
mircea_popescu: sooo danielpbarron how about you trade me those wheel bps for a nicely ready made wheel ? [15:27]
diana_coman: he he, I was just asking in the game if he auctions those bps or if there's a market for the bubbles [15:27]
mircea_popescu: 567k buradillity! should last for ages! [15:27]
mircea_popescu: Gaxaro 80k on your sr. [15:28]
mircea_popescu: oh he sold it already ? [15:29]
diana_coman: nobody knows it really [15:29]
Birdman: last i saw dpb bid 167k [15:29]
mircea_popescu: o.O [15:29]
Gaxaro: Mircea nope i did not sell it yet [15:29]
Birdman: Pretty shitty return on those tools too, should've said i wanted the worn tools back [15:29]
Gaxaro: and plus my internet messed up so i got disconneted [15:29]
mircea_popescu: Gaxaro there's a log http://logs.minigame.bz [15:30]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora Log (at logs.minigame.bz) [15:30]
mircea_popescu: and get a sane client. [15:30]
Gaxaro: Wait what? I already have foxybot if that's what you meant [15:30]
mircea_popescu: irc client. [15:31]
Gaxaro: Oh, why get that when i can use the web ? [15:31]
mircea_popescu: becasue you lose the scrollback if you dc, as you just said. [15:31]
Birdman: i had used web clients for ages Gaxaro but its awesome to have an irc client. [15:32]
Birdman: worth the little bit of trouble, especially if you're going to be places every day [15:32]
Gaxaro: Well im gonna be here forever i bet lol [15:33]
DicePower: So like, announcement time! [15:34]
DicePower: You guys did it! [15:34]
DicePower: DicePower has Linux now! [15:34]
DicePower: (not exclusively, but has it) [15:34]
diana_coman: well done DicePower [15:34]
diana_coman: as a side tiny project, track the time spent waiting for your operating system to START in windows vs linux and then see what that tells you [15:35]
DicePower: For some reason, I start in the Linux loading screen and can select Windows from there. [15:36]
DicePower: So I'm thinking Linux is already partially loaded at that point. [15:36]
diana_coman: that's the boot loader DicePower ... [15:36]
diana_coman: nope [15:36]
DicePower: ahhh [15:37]
Gaxaro: Alright i will trade with you Mircea [15:37]
diana_coman: it's just that windows is too crappy to be able to handle such an extremely advanced concept as dual-boot [15:37]
DicePower: LOL [15:37]
Gaxaro: i will you the small rest of the shiny rock i could not get out because it says inventory full [15:37]
diana_coman: but from there: when you select one or the other of the os [15:37]
Birdman: Gaxaro [15:37]
Gaxaro: Yes? [15:37]
Birdman: withdraw till your inventory is full, drop the items, keep withdrawing, etc [15:37]
Gaxaro: oh okay [15:38]
Birdman: then you can pick them all up consolidated even if its making you overweight [15:38]
danielpbarron: use a craft table [15:38]
Birdman: ^ [15:38]
Gaxaro: Ah there we go [15:39]
Birdman: so sup with the claims dan ive the results of ten tries on each [15:39]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> sooo danielpbarron how about you trade me those wheel bps for a nicely ready made wheel ? << alright deal [15:42]
mircea_popescu: aite im in town. [15:45]
Gaxaro: i am too [15:45]
Gaxaro: standing next to you waiting lol [15:45]
mircea_popescu: do i get the sr blaxo ? [15:45]
Gaxaro: Yeah [15:45]
mircea_popescu: cool trad eme. [15:45]
Gaxaro: hm it wont let me [15:45]
Gaxaro: weird [15:45]
Birdman: overweight you cant trade first [15:48]
Birdman: or initiate a trade rather [15:48]
jurov: Gaxaro you must drop the stuff that makes you overweight first, then while trading pick it up [15:48]
Gaxaro: Yup i figured it out now :D [15:48]
mircea_popescu: readily realises the wisdom of having prepared all this US [15:49]
mircea_popescu: oh which reminds me, [15:49]
mircea_popescu: selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.9mn heard diana_coman , eta 19:30 art < [15:49]
mircea_popescu: be like hour and a half away [15:49]
DicePower: Hmmm [15:57]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron picked it ? [15:57]
DicePower: "1. Make sure you have a 3d gfx card and the appropriate Nvidia driver installed (non-nvidia gfx on Ubuntu is untested and promises to be iffy). You can find a driver for your specific card via Nvidia's tool, if you don't have one installed already." It seems the linked "NVIDIA Smart Scan" isn't supported and doesn't work on Linux. [15:57]
mircea_popescu: o.O [15:58]
mircea_popescu: iirc there was a driver provided in the source dir. [15:58]
DicePower: These instructions are even scarier than the Windows ones lol [15:59]
mircea_popescu: dun be scared! [15:59]
jurov: DicePower: where is this from? i run it under ubuntu with ati opensource driver [16:00]
DicePower: http://www.eulorum.org/Ubuntu [16:00]
jurov: (but the nvidia gfx is needed to compile in any case) [16:00]
lobbesbot: Title: Ubuntu - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [16:00]
danielpbarron: scarier than running bitcoin software on winbl0ws? [16:01]
DicePower: I'm open to compiling the code on Windows or Linux. [16:01]
DicePower: But might need some help with either instruction set. [16:01]
DicePower: There's a bit of shorthand and technical stuff that I haven't done before. [16:01]
mircea_popescu: jurov> DicePower: where is this from? <<< ancient bit in wike, from like 2015. [16:02]
mircea_popescu: at the time it wasn't yet tested. [16:02]
mircea_popescu: DicePower i don't think people mind answering q's. [16:02]
DicePower: :) [16:02]
DicePower: so just skip the driver step now? [16:02]
jurov: try to install any 3d game available from ubuntu repo [16:04]
jurov: if that works, it should be fine [16:04]
jurov: like, tuxracer or tuxkart dunno what is there [16:04]
DicePower: Is that the same as the Software Center? [16:05]
jurov: there is package manager [16:06]
DicePower: Found Package Manager [16:23]
DicePower: Hmmm, Neverputt 3D Miniature Golf Game [16:24]
DicePower: That should work I suppose [16:24]
DicePower: Hmm, "The application Neverputt has closed unexpectedly." [16:27]
DicePower: Might I installed it incorrectly though [16:27]
DicePower: *Might be that [16:28]
diana_coman: yo Gaxaro don't leave the worn-out tools on the grass - they are still worth 2k each! [16:31]
diana_coman: lolz [16:31]
DicePower: I see a SuperTuxKart [16:31]
DicePower: Maybe that's the one you were referring to [16:31]
jurov: yes [16:32]
jurov: looks like you need to find ubuntu instructions for your graphics card, it's not hard [16:32]
DicePower: SuperTuxKart is running. [16:34]
DicePower: Must have been a problem with the golf game. [16:35]
DicePower: This game is awesome [16:36]
DicePower: Looks like it was made in Alice lol [16:36]
DicePower: This game is amazing [16:47]
DicePower: No wonder people like Linux. [16:47]
DicePower: It's because of SuperTuxKart [16:47]
diana_coman: ha ha [16:47]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:47]
jurov: kek [16:49]
jurov: bashed [16:49]
mircea_popescu: this has a bash too ?! [16:50]
jurov: i add from here to #b-a bash manually [16:50]
jurov: occassionally [16:50]
mircea_popescu: a a [16:51]
jurov: (for example http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=401 ) [16:51]
lobbesbot: Title: #bitcoin-assets bash (at bash.bitcoin-assets.com) [16:51]
mircea_popescu: pretty cool [16:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I think you used the value for the whole scaffolding instead of value for so here: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-20.log.html#t15:19:18 [17:05]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-02-20 (at logs.minigame.bz) [17:05]
diana_coman: right? [17:05]
DicePower: I see no libasound-dev, but I see a libasound2-dev. Same? [17:05]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's not 15 * 290349 * 1.5 + 35 * 3780 * 1.58 but rather 15*87556*1.5+35*3780*1.58 = 2179044 [17:06]
jurov: DicePower: yes, it's fine [17:07]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman oooo [17:07]
mircea_popescu: yeah wrong value huh. [17:07]
diana_coman: it just seemed way out of range, lol [17:08]
DicePower: kk [17:08]
mircea_popescu: so 2179044 - 357129*5=393399 [17:08]
diana_coman: yes [17:08]
mircea_popescu: at your leisure. [17:08]
diana_coman: let me get the numina together ~ 10 min [17:09]
mircea_popescu: ima go dig up some tpt and stuff after. [17:09]
diana_coman: oooo [17:09]
diana_coman: back to lj? [17:09]
diana_coman: what q do you still get on those? [17:09]
mircea_popescu: curious what my q even is [17:09]
diana_coman: is it at least higher than mine? [17:09]
mircea_popescu: no idea, havent' touched it in 3months [17:09]
diana_coman: I get you need high q, right? [17:09]
mircea_popescu: prolly not but i wanna see lol [17:09]
diana_coman: aha, kk [17:10]
diana_coman: I didn't really do much lj as I had enough with farming + mining + tinkering the tools really [17:10]
diana_coman: but anyway, it adds up to my no 1 building rank I guess [17:10]
mircea_popescu: aw shit no skullcaps [17:12]
diana_coman: I can give you some [17:12]
mircea_popescu: ima make a few [17:12]
diana_coman: kk [17:12]
mircea_popescu: i needed the bp anyway [17:12]
mircea_popescu: O SHIT [17:12]
diana_coman: so? [17:12]
mircea_popescu: i should have made some huh. before bp loot went away [17:12]
diana_coman: heh, another one in the pile of "why didn't I make a ton of those??" [17:13]
diana_coman: lol [17:13]
mircea_popescu: so wait, dcs+bct ? [17:13]
mircea_popescu: 1k bv each ? shit. you got high q dcs ? [17:13]
diana_coman: I just lost a bunch of them in a vanishing-claim trick:( [17:14]
diana_coman: let me see what I still have otherwise [17:14]
mircea_popescu: eee finally a use for my 705 high q bct [17:14]
diana_coman: lol, I have...3 high q; I have low q 100 though [17:14]
diana_coman: a [17:14]
diana_coman: I suppose I can rather sell you both bct and dcs low q, lol [17:15]
mircea_popescu: i have those but not worth the tool decay [17:15]
diana_coman: oh, it's mcguyver [17:15]
diana_coman: yeah, btw the us is actually craft-table so it wasn't about mcguyver xp the calc on whether better to give it or make it yourself [17:16]
mircea_popescu: ah that's right isn't it. [17:17]
mircea_popescu: tho... tinkering xp arguably even better [17:17]
diana_coman: and sortage [17:17]
mircea_popescu: my point exactly. [17:17]
mircea_popescu: ftr im making q 1555 hats. is this shitty ? [17:18]
diana_coman: hm, I think that's how they tend to end up - ftr it's 79 decay per click [17:18]
mircea_popescu: a ok [17:18]
mircea_popescu: aaaand first ampoule cooking up. [17:20]
diana_coman: yay [17:20]
mircea_popescu: slowly but surely. [17:20]
mircea_popescu: so i lapidary q115 [17:24]
diana_coman: was that the same as you used to? [17:24]
mircea_popescu: i think so [17:25]
mircea_popescu: ahh this two levels per 1 craft thing is the tits. [17:25]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 10Ã\u00979999Ã\u0097(7*0.09+1.22+1.19+15*0.06) = 393960, so 7 stacks at 9q, 1 stack at 122q, 1 stack at 119q and 15 stacks at 6q - that fine? [17:26]
diana_coman: (got fed up with getting the 6 q, lol) [17:26]
mircea_popescu: yup [17:26]
mircea_popescu: lemme make some space here one moment. [17:26]
mircea_popescu: otherwise it'll be 3 at a time lol [17:26]
diana_coman: kk [17:27]
mircea_popescu: rdy [17:27]
mircea_popescu: o look at that, indescript gemstone dust! [17:28]
diana_coman: lol, ofc [17:28]
DicePower: I do not see a mega-common-dev [17:28]
mircea_popescu: pretty cool. [17:28]
DicePower: *mesa-common-dev [17:28]
diana_coman: ugh, I can't place that item in there? [17:28]
mircea_popescu: ? [17:28]
diana_coman: oh, nm [17:28]
diana_coman: the idiotic exchange thing [17:29]
diana_coman: so the two higher q stacks [17:29]
mircea_popescu: word [17:30]
mircea_popescu: so this is 15 q6 [17:31]
diana_coman: yeah [17:31]
diana_coman: and 1 of the q9 [17:31]
mircea_popescu: rdy [17:31]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [17:31]
diana_coman: that should be it [17:31]
diana_coman: thanks! [17:31]
diana_coman: ftr it barely got me 2 ranks up in sortage [17:32]
diana_coman: but that's sortage [17:32]
DicePower: Also no subversion, though there is a subversion-dbg (debug) [17:32]
mircea_popescu: not so bad really. [17:32]
mircea_popescu: takes forever to get 2 ranks. [17:32]
diana_coman: no, I'm fine with it - that's pretty much why I took it on [17:32]
DicePower: No swig either [17:33]
diana_coman: for the xp, not for the loot (which was underwhelming really kind of ~2k feelings for each click) [17:33]
mircea_popescu: not clear whether low q or high q feelings are better imo [17:33]
mircea_popescu: mebbe danielpbarron provides some guidance there [17:33]
diana_coman: still has loads of...feelings! [17:34]
diana_coman: lol [17:34]
mircea_popescu: you know this is the first time the chair came off my head in many months ? [17:34]
diana_coman: ahahaha [17:36]
diana_coman: click-click! [17:36]
DicePower: I'm also getting "could not apply changes fix broken packages first" error when I try to install the rest, but it's not clear where ones are broken. [17:37]
mircea_popescu: incidentally... only getting 1 skill per craft now [17:37]
mircea_popescu: lapidary 10 > q 116 [17:41]
jurov: DicePower: which tool do you use? [17:41]
DicePower: Synaptic Package Manager [17:42]
DicePower: Tried to fix them all at once in Edit -> Fix Broken Packages, got tons of errors. [17:44]
mircea_popescu: having fun yet ? [17:47]
DicePower: me? [17:47]
mircea_popescu: yd [17:47]
mircea_popescu: ye* [17:47]
DicePower: Spent well over an hour checking all the packages off. [17:47]
DicePower: And a bunch were autoselected as well [17:48]
DicePower: Now I have no idea which one(s) are broken lol [17:48]
DicePower: And it won't install any of them. [17:48]
mircea_popescu: aite. [17:48]
DicePower: I take it that packages are more of an approximate thing than a science. [17:48]
mircea_popescu: well not really ... what it needs, it needs. [17:48]
DicePower: Since there were a few missing [17:48]
DicePower: There are several that weren't present in the package manager that were listed for the install. [17:49]
mircea_popescu: it is possible zorba or w/e that thing is called doesn't have some packages needed, in which case you'll have to either port them or won't be able to compile on it\ [17:49]
DicePower: :( [17:49]
DicePower: Porting them is like a simple flash drive type transfer? [17:50]
mircea_popescu: prolly not. [17:50]
mircea_popescu: make a list of the ones that are on the list but not in synaptic ? [17:50]
mircea_popescu: also could prolly try the command line method, as described in there. [17:50]
mircea_popescu: that's usually more productive. [17:51]
DicePower: The ones I noted were mesa-common-dev, subversion, and swig. [17:51]
mircea_popescu: say "apt-get install mesa-common-dev" in a terminal, for instance [17:51]
DicePower: My immediate problem though is that ALL the others that I selected won't install. [17:51]
DicePower: Because something is broken. [17:51]
mircea_popescu: well that sounds like a pretty shitty distro. [17:52]
DicePower: And it won't tell me which package. [17:52]
DicePower: I think I'm just really inexperienced at this. [17:52]
jurov: try to clear the list completely [17:52]
jurov: and i'll gie you my list [17:52]
DicePower: I guess the moral is try one at a time. [17:53]
DicePower: Or in chunks [17:53]
DicePower: Don't try all at once. [17:53]
mircea_popescu: try one at a time via apt-get in terminal [17:53]
mircea_popescu: at least you get error messagtes we can use [17:53]
DicePower: I have error messages if you want them, not sure how useful though. [17:53]
mircea_popescu: dpaste. [17:54]
DicePower: k [17:54]
jurov: http://www.eulorum.org/Ubuntu#Installing_Eulora_in_Ubuntu i have added my specific list [17:54]
lobbesbot: Title: Ubuntu - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) [17:54]
jurov: under "Ubuntu 14.04:" [17:54]
DicePower: Hmmm, the list of errors significantly shrunk since the first time. [17:55]
DicePower: Now there are 2 lol [17:55]
jurov: ok, dpaste then [17:55]
DicePower: dpaste.com/0DPCTJG [17:55]
mircea_popescu: wtf windows error messagving is that. [17:56]
jurov: isn't there anything more? [17:56]
jurov: try to run apt-get install <list> in terminal instead [17:56]
DicePower: That's all I get when I try to fix the errors [17:56]
mircea_popescu: sooo lapidary skill 3, q 115 ; skill 10 q 116 ; skill 15 q 117! [17:56]
DicePower: Okay, I'll try to do them one at a time and I'll post when something breaks. [17:57]
diana_coman: 12 dcs 137q pinging danielpbarron jurov mircea_popescu [18:05]
mircea_popescu: 10k [18:05]
diana_coman: 10k heard, will wait ~15 min [18:06]
jurov: and who won the mircea's cft? would like to resell about 1k? [18:07]
diana_coman: oh, did I win that mircea_popescu ? [18:07]
mircea_popescu: cft ? you won yep. digging it out of storage now. [18:08]
diana_coman: yaaay [18:08]
diana_coman: jurov, do you want my cft ? (120-122q) [18:08]
jurov: yes [18:08]
diana_coman: kk, will get to town in 5 [18:09]
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu> selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.9mn heard diana_coman << sold. [18:09]
diana_coman: and oh my , high q dcs and not bringing even 1.25 lolz [18:09]
mircea_popescu: for the record im prolly going to dig up my 2nd grass remarkable this coming week, depending on how i manage to get gt made [18:09]
mircea_popescu: will again offer the grass first then thread it. [18:09]
diana_coman: read that "shred it" [18:09]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:09]
mircea_popescu: wow pageful of loot! [18:10]
mircea_popescu: 1k dusts. nb. [18:10]
diana_coman: aha, congrats [18:10]
mircea_popescu: ready diana_coman [18:11]
diana_coman: on my way [18:11]
mircea_popescu: Birdman why are you mining straight through trainer eh [18:12]
Gaxaro: Hey guys do you know any good well keyboard macro recorder? Was planning to use one for certain games but most i tried doesn't work for shit sadly [18:12]
Birdman: check back every hour, can train, then afk [18:12]
mircea_popescu: Gaxaro there's xmacro on linux iirc [18:12]
Birdman: is it a problem ? [18:12]
Gaxaro: I'm on windows thought [18:12]
diana_coman: got change mircea_popescu ? [18:13]
mircea_popescu: enjoy! [18:13]
diana_coman: yay, thanks! [18:13]
jurov: diana_coman: ping me when ready [18:13]
diana_coman: will do, 2 min [18:13]
Gaxaro: So i don't think that will work since im not on linux? [18:13]
mircea_popescu: Gaxaro well i dunno about windows userland. [18:14]
Birdman: i can move em if it gets in the way [18:14]
diana_coman: jurov, trade [18:14]
mircea_popescu: Birdman yeah, take five steps either side, what's it cost you. [18:14]
Birdman: no problem [18:14]
diana_coman: 1000*1.23*180*1.25 jurov [18:15]
diana_coman: 277k [18:15]
jurov: ok [18:15]
diana_coman: I don't have any change whatsoever [18:15]
mircea_popescu: i just gave you 10 coins! [18:15]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, he need smaller coins, lol [18:16]
mircea_popescu: :p [18:16]
jurov: she needs 2000 [18:16]
jurov: *3000 [18:16]
diana_coman: uhm, 277 jurov , not 177 [18:16]
jurov: or maybe add more cft [18:16]
diana_coman: so far subtract maybe [18:16]
diana_coman: 11 more but need to get them out of inv, lol [18:17]
diana_coman: jurov, accept [18:17]
jurov: 280000/(1.23*180*1.25) = 1011,7 [18:18]
diana_coman: want 12? lol, k [18:18]
jurov: yes 12, will add 71 coppers [18:18]
mircea_popescu: sooo lapidary skill 3, q 115 ; skill 10 q 116 ; skill 15 q 117 ; skill 19 q 118 [18:18]
mircea_popescu: anyone care or should i just stop spamming it ? [18:18]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I write it down next to the rest [18:19]
mircea_popescu: kk [18:19]
mircea_popescu: seems so far 4 levels - 1 q more or less. [18:19]
jurov: mircea_popescu: is the skill item suitable for noobs? [18:19]
diana_coman: it's not bad really [18:19]
diana_coman: jurov, it's stilla affected by tinkering though [18:19]
mircea_popescu: jurov which skill item ? [18:19]
jurov: lapidary. to get the skill level 1 [18:19]
mircea_popescu: iirc lapidary is small sparkle. [18:20]
diana_coman: jurov, you don't need dcs anymore? [18:20]
jurov: looking...i have some dcs stored and don't have more small crs yet [18:20]
jurov: *srs [18:20]
diana_coman: oh mircea_popescu for the notes - care to say what level your tink is? [18:21]
mircea_popescu: 813 now [18:21]
diana_coman: thanks [18:21]
jurov: so lapidary is not a skill? [18:21]
mircea_popescu: it is ? [18:21]
jurov: and you sell lapidary skill potions or what? [18:22]
jurov: if it's potion, i'd like one [18:22]
diana_coman: oh well, mircea_popescu 12 dcs for you [18:22]
diana_coman: if anyone else waked up later that they want such things, let me know as I'll have more in the future [18:23]
mircea_popescu: jurov i think i must have a sparkle somewhere [18:23]
mircea_popescu: danke dia [18:23]
diana_coman: oh my q7? disgusting [18:24]
diana_coman: yw [18:24]
mircea_popescu: well they're good for btk! [18:24]
diana_coman: yeah, that's why I made some stocks too - and now I have more of those than btk bps [18:24]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:24]
mircea_popescu: l;emme show you something [18:24]
diana_coman: 678 bps? [18:25]
diana_coman: not impressive, lol [18:25]
diana_coman: that's about what I have too, yes [18:25]
diana_coman: but I have MORE dcs! [18:25]
diana_coman: low q that is [18:26]
Gaxaro: Trying to find something that presses the same key on the keyboard over and over [18:26]
diana_coman: but Gaxaro why not use the bot? [18:26]
mircea_popescu: darn. [18:26]
diana_coman: or what are you trying to do? [18:26]
Gaxaro: It's for well diffrent games. [18:27]
Gaxaro: Alright let me explain what i am trying to do. It's a game called "Hell yeah" and i just unlocked the casino arena and it's a achievement called jackpot! which is basiclly getting 3 "777" and you click e key every time to spin [18:28]
Gaxaro: problem is that it's luck based and it can take a long time proberly.. and i didn't feel like pressing e key over and over. [18:28]
mircea_popescu: so use a macro recorder. there msut exist some, even for windows. [18:28]
mircea_popescu: if not, run xmacro in cygwin or something [18:29]
diana_coman: I think Birdman used to use one [18:29]
diana_coman: on windows I mean [18:29]
diana_coman: that game sounds familiar - press lever get reward or something [18:29]
Gaxaro: i tried a bunch of macro programs but for some reason they don't wanna work haha.. [18:29]
Gaxaro: poor me.. [18:29]
Birdman: what a macro? i can recommend a good one through torrent [18:29]
Birdman: only good one i've ever used [18:30]
Birdman: Gaxaro yeah most suck even the one's you have to pay to use [18:30]
Gaxaro: Speaking about torrent, that ain't working either. It's just stuck on finding peers or whatever you call it. [18:31]
Gaxaro: Never had that problem before either and it's stuck like that on any torrent i try to download lol [18:31]
Gaxaro: Hmm... [18:34]
Birdman: what client do you use? [18:35]
Gaxaro: utorrent [18:36]
Birdman: Works fine for me though i haven't updated it in like 6 years [18:36]
Birdman: sure its not the torrents you're using? anyways ill give you a link to the torrent i used to get the macro [18:36]
Gaxaro: I'll doubt it? Could always try reinstalling the client and see what happens. [18:37]
DicePower: The package recipe calls for liblcms-dev. I see liblcms1-dev and liblcms2-dev. [18:39]
DicePower: I take it there's no danger to downloading too many packages? [18:39]
DicePower: Like downloading both of the above, and combining both lists now on the wiki would be fine? [18:40]
Birdman: this is the magnet URI Gaxaro [18:40]
Birdman: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:31C6DD381FA9300D1B6FC6BADC1D1D039C5FED90&dn=JitBit.Macro.Recorder.v5.6.5.0.Keymaker-RNDD&tr=udp\%3a\%2f\%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com\%3a80&tr=\%2audp\%3a\%2f\%2fopen.demonii.com\%3a1337&tr=udp\%3a\%2f\%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk\%3a6969&tr=udp\%3a\%2f\%2fexodus.desync.com\%3a6969 [18:40]
Birdman: think you can paste that in your browser and utorrent will give an option to open it [18:41]
Gaxaro: Yeah just reinstalling utorrent again. [18:41]
Birdman: my anti virus software is completely blocking me from getting on the site, and the domains for thepiratebay changed, probably some govt restrictions or something [18:41]
Birdman: redirects me to 'siteadvisor.com/restricted' or some other bs [18:42]
jurov: i confirm, the link works [18:42]
danielpbarron: there is danger in installing any unfamiliar thing, let alone "too many" [18:45]
Gaxaro: oh it says here utorrent is blocked from network blahblah [18:45]
Gaxaro: Hmm how to give it access again. [18:45]
danielpbarron: port forwarding prolly [18:46]
DicePower: danielpbarron: Well, everything I'm getting is unfamiliar :P [18:46]
DicePower: But it's all part of Linux sort of kinda. [18:47]
danielpbarron: sure like how maggots are part of a corpse [18:49]
DicePower: heh [18:50]
DicePower: I feel like the stereotypical grandmother on the computer on Linux right now :P [18:51]
DicePower: But like, I take it that the packages I'm downloading are somewhat like programming libraries. You can #include as many extras as you want without causing issues, there's just no point to #including extra. [18:53]
Gaxaro: Hmm i need to add utorrent to the firewall again [18:55]
Gaxaro: to the smart firewall lol [18:55]
DicePower: Found 1 of the missing packages :) [19:00]
mircea_popescu: sooo lapidary skill 3, q 115 ; skill 10 q 116 ; skill 15 q 117 ; skill 19 q 118 ; skill 29 q 119 [19:01]
Gaxaro: sweet i fixed the utorrent problem lol [19:05]
Gaxaro: i'm not useless after all lol [19:05]
mircea_popescu: sooo lapidary skill 3, q 115 ; skill 10 q 116 ; skill 15 q 117 ; skill 19 q 118 ; skill 29 q 119 ; skill 32 q 120 [19:14]
mircea_popescu: maybe it is actually feasible to catch up with my other skills in lapidary. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: oooo dazzling gemstone shards [19:28]
mircea_popescu: anyone found ? [19:28]
mircea_popescu: getting a new skill going is pretty exciting i must say :D [19:33]
mircea_popescu: sooo lapidary skill 3, q 115 ; skill 10 q 116 ; skill 15 q 117 ; skill 19 q 118 ; skill 29 q 119 ; skill 32 q 120 ; skill 39 q 121 [19:50]
mircea_popescu: sooo lapidary skill 3, q 115 ; skill 10 q 116 ; skill 15 q 117 ; skill 19 q 118 ; skill 29 q 119 ; skill 32 q 120 ; skill 39 q 121 ; skill 46 q 122 [20:49]
mircea_popescu: heh so i dropped 40 dcs and they seem to have disappeared. [21:25]
mircea_popescu: for shame. [21:25]
danielpbarron: is making questionable flagons [21:37]
mircea_popescu: i saw [21:38]
mircea_popescu: nice bundle q too! [21:38]
danielpbarron: aha [21:38]
danielpbarron: has quite the collection of assorted high quality things [21:38]
mircea_popescu: works splendidly for a time like this. [21:39]
danielpbarron: i was flipping through the blueprints i won today to see if i wanted to re-auction or what, and I'm like "gee I have most of the stuff to make these" [21:39]
mircea_popescu: cool huh. [21:40]
mircea_popescu: rank up in lj, 280 tpt looted [21:40]
mircea_popescu: q 124 [21:40]
mircea_popescu: what q lj were you doing danielpbarron ? [21:41]
danielpbarron: little over 100 [21:51]
mircea_popescu: o wow so i'm ahead ? [21:51]
mircea_popescu: i thought you must've passed me [21:51]
danielpbarron: my building is very low [21:51]
danielpbarron: even jurov is ahead [21:51]
mircea_popescu: ah [21:52]
danielpbarron: i was late in adopting foxybot [21:52]
mircea_popescu: so i dug up a tpt ord i think i bought from foxy long ago [21:52]
mircea_popescu: found all the foxy secrets, sg ord, ae ord... [21:52]
danielpbarron: those are secret? [21:52]
mircea_popescu: nah, just messin'. [21:52]
danielpbarron: lol.. dagsgen flag [21:55]
danielpbarron: i knew i liked mcguyvering [21:56]
mircea_popescu: >D [21:56]
Gaxaro: at what cords was the grass at? [21:57]
danielpbarron: -235 -139 [21:57]
mircea_popescu: it's so great when going to a key with pilot [21:58]
mircea_popescu: out of the many claims one stands out [21:58]
mircea_popescu: sorta as you're aproaching [21:58]
mircea_popescu: is this the one ? [21:58]
mircea_popescu: usuaslly. but not always! [21:59]
mircea_popescu: in bp news : charcoal 25\% done ; ampoules 25\% done ; black of desspayr 0\% done ; tool required 100\% done ; two supporting branches 11\% and 6\% done. overall completion, 7.2\%! [22:11]
mircea_popescu: at the present rate, first click shall be in about 3 months or so [22:11]
mircea_popescu: and btw diana_coman for your list : Pointedly Odorous Charcoal = 16 to 17 Three-Pointed Thorn + 37 to 40 Rickety Reeds ; Misshaped Ampoule = 2 to 2 Pointedly Odorous Charcoal + 13 to 17 Polished Small Stone ; Black of Desspayr = 1 to 1 Misshaped Ampoule + 31 to 33 Elusive Purple Snail + 17 to 18 Better Bitterbean [22:16]
fghj: looks like jurov won f+sr package for 1.292m 3h ago [22:26]
mircea_popescu: aw missed that one [22:26]
mircea_popescu: make moar fghj [22:30]
danielpbarron: aand i'm out of toolkit :< [22:42]
mircea_popescu: i could sell ya a couple. [22:49]
danielpbarron: k [22:56]
mircea_popescu: should be like 89.9k ea, say 250k together. [22:58]
mircea_popescu: ello mircea_popescu [22:59]
mircea_popescu: i mean [22:59]
mircea_popescu: ello mitch_callahan [22:59]
mitch_callahan: Hey g [22:59]
mircea_popescu: you ever tried eulora ? [23:00]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> should be like 89.9k ea, say 250k together. << alright [23:01]
mircea_popescu: well i JUST started a craft after waiting bout 3 minutes on ya. [23:01]
mircea_popescu: so you can have 'em once this is done and i can log off. bout 10 minutes or so. [23:01]
danielpbarron: k [23:01]
mircea_popescu: hanbot 1492 * columbus * king of spain = 503288.9 [23:08]
hanbot: :D [23:08]
danielpbarron: glares [23:08]
mircea_popescu: lol [23:08]
mircea_popescu: doing a q 176 dubious tome click, curious what comes out of this. [23:13]
mircea_popescu: ready danielpbarron [23:24]
danielpbarron: k one sec [23:27]
danielpbarron: ready [23:28]
mitch_callahan: mp - tried installing on ubuntu, failed. tried on mac, getting more fail. i need to try again. [23:29]
danielpbarron: done [23:30]
mircea_popescu: that sux. [23:30]

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