#eulora Logs for 09 Jan 2016



January 9th, 2016 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 2k bottles ready for you [09:20]
mircea_popescu: o hey. im in tyown diana_coman [09:21]
diana_coman: yay, 1 min to get them then [09:22]
mircea_popescu: sweet, by the time im done making all this cft ima do the dg then the io... [09:22]
mircea_popescu: i'm so booked here it's crazy, 10days + [09:22]
diana_coman: heh, loads of things to do in fact, isn't it? [09:22]
mircea_popescu: yuppers. [09:22]
mircea_popescu: i've not gotten to mine all year. [09:22]
diana_coman: uhm? [09:23]
mircea_popescu: 2000 * 1.15 * 1.25 * 4070 that right ? [09:23]
diana_coman: right [09:23]
mircea_popescu: 11.701 mn, were we settled otherwise ? [09:23]
mircea_popescu: uh why did you close it ? [09:23]
diana_coman: I didn't! [09:23]
mircea_popescu: doh i must have clicked the wrong x ;/ [09:23]
diana_coman: that's why I was uhm-ing earlier -thought you closed it [09:23]
diana_coman: we were settled as far as I know [09:24]
diana_coman: nice [09:24]
mircea_popescu: check it out, exact change! :D [09:24]
diana_coman: have any cft for sale already? [09:24]
mircea_popescu: yup how much do you want ? [09:24]
diana_coman: if I get back to mapping, I'll get as much as there is really [09:24]
mircea_popescu: i got 8k @152 [09:25]
diana_coman: bring it on, lol [09:25]
mircea_popescu: trade me. [09:25]
diana_coman: I even got back into shredding [09:25]
mircea_popescu: 8317 * 1.52 * 1.25 * 180 = 2844414 [09:25]
mircea_popescu: incredible how much rope one can buy for a few bottles huh :D [09:26]
diana_coman: have change or do I go to bank? [09:26]
mircea_popescu: sort-of [09:26]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [09:26]
diana_coman: thanks! [09:26]
diana_coman: well, better rope, worse bottles, etc [09:26]
mircea_popescu: you'll be wanting more you say ? [09:26]
diana_coman: anyway, I mixed those bottles, as they were all sorts, from 115 to 118 [09:27]
mircea_popescu: no biggy. [09:27]
diana_coman: yes, I'll take more cft [09:27]
mircea_popescu: you got any ae ? [09:27]
mircea_popescu: tho i guess i shouldn't be asking for things until i'm actyually done with all these piles of stuff to make. [09:27]
diana_coman: ugh, those are a pain to get; tbh if you need them, I'm game to get them for you, but they'll be expensive like shit [09:28]
mircea_popescu: they're what's stopping ft production atm. [09:28]
diana_coman: I know, but then it's either I sell them at a profit or otherwise at least use the bloody things myself and get some xp out of them [09:28]
diana_coman: we need a mineer [09:28]
mircea_popescu: aite. [09:29]
mircea_popescu: well hopefully someone finds the skill already. [09:29]
diana_coman: is anyone even trying? [09:29]
diana_coman: or by sheer accident - like any good discovery [09:29]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it's almost as if the altar has a curse on it - makes trhe owner tight lipped [09:29]
mircea_popescu: at first it was just danielpbarron but now it seems it got grenadine too :D [09:29]
diana_coman: ahahahah, quite fittingly really [09:29]
mircea_popescu: odd how it works huh [09:30]
diana_coman: I haven't seen her much around lately though [09:30]
diana_coman: I should go through my old supps and the like as by now they are prolly high q :)))) [09:30]
mircea_popescu: i think i ran into her one of these days but wasn't saying much. [09:30]
mircea_popescu: lol yup [09:30]
mircea_popescu: i gave korgan some bps yest for the rarer stuff in shredding, curious how that goes. [09:31]
diana_coman: for the record, I bouq now at 103q [09:31]
mircea_popescu: what q do you tinker ? [09:31]
diana_coman: I saw that - for some reason he didn't get what I was saying, but at least he figured it out from you so no problem [09:31]
diana_coman: 118 still it seems stuck again [09:31]
diana_coman: 1 sec for full data set [09:32]
mircea_popescu: if the proportion holds, with my 153 tinker i should then bouq high 130s ? [09:32]
diana_coman: tink 521-524 rank it stayed stuck at 118q [09:32]
mircea_popescu: well... 3 points, no surprise. [09:32]
mircea_popescu: i got like 12 points between 152 and 153 iirc. [09:33]
diana_coman: yes, I don't know why I thought it was a longer stretch, but now I went through the notes (got all of it damned it for once) [09:33]
diana_coman: bouq was 102 from 139 to 141 [09:33]
diana_coman: and now 103 [09:34]
mircea_popescu: aha [09:34]
diana_coman: interesting as cooking is STILL better no matter how you look at it [09:34]
diana_coman: easier or whatever [09:34]
mircea_popescu: go make us a sammich [09:34]
diana_coman: need that elusive tove [09:35]
diana_coman: and if there's nobody else going to even search for it... [09:35]
mircea_popescu: stil lnot found huh [09:35]
diana_coman: well, it's only me looking for stuff it seems, isn't it? [09:35]
mircea_popescu: but you still got some stash don't you ? or who did, maybe mod6 ? [09:35]
diana_coman: and apparently I still have some way to go for those higher q ones [09:35]
diana_coman: my stash is nearly gone,remember the last deal when I sold you most of it? [09:35]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i dunno, saw some noobs mining, wyrd and who else [09:35]
mircea_popescu: hm. [09:36]
diana_coman: mod6 still has some, yes [09:36]
mircea_popescu: i recall someone having like 100 or something. [09:36]
diana_coman: they are mining usually for someone [09:36]
diana_coman: yes, he has that [09:36]
mircea_popescu: it only goes 1 to the samovar if memory serves. [09:36]
diana_coman: I think some of the new players also got some st but haven't seen them around? [09:36]
diana_coman: yes [09:36]
mircea_popescu: course my samovars aren't what they used to be ;/ [09:36]
diana_coman: see [09:36]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman someone won o wait it was lobbes that picked the tove prize was it ? [09:37]
diana_coman: yes, I think so [09:37]
mircea_popescu: or did he get the bubbles ? [09:37]
diana_coman: no, he asked for the st [09:37]
diana_coman: I just didn't recall who was it, but yes, lobbes [09:37]
mircea_popescu: turns out maybe not so bad. he ever sell it ? [09:37]
diana_coman: not that I know of [09:38]
mircea_popescu: hey lobbes ! you there ? selling some slithy tove ? [09:38]
diana_coman: so back to data look at this: I was getting 109q on cooking at tinkering 517 and gungho 120, while I get 103 on bouq at tinkering 520 and bouq 142 [09:39]
mircea_popescu: so clearly cooking better than bouq for you [09:39]
mircea_popescu: what about mcguyver ? [09:39]
diana_coman: and 110 on mcguyver at 262 mcguyver and ~512 (don't have precise data there exactly) tink rank [09:40]
mircea_popescu: so it looks like, cooking > mcguyver > bouq for you. [09:40]
mircea_popescu: basically you're a wench. [09:40]
diana_coman: that's what I see too [09:41]
diana_coman: ahahaha, I have a feeling you are one too though :D [09:41]
mircea_popescu: oooooo, listen! [09:41]
mircea_popescu: reason tinklering is so high q as compared to others is that prolly sortage counts too! [09:42]
diana_coman: got any data for me to listen to? [09:42]
diana_coman: really, wtf [09:42]
mircea_popescu: well, so far i'm q 153 with tinker 784 / sortage 321 [09:42]
mircea_popescu: but i haven't done any cooking or anything in a while. not since the change at any rate. so i dunno. [09:42]
diana_coman: I haven't noticed any difference in it since I got sortage - though admiteddly there have been SO MANY unexpected sudden changes that it might have gotten lost in there [09:42]
mircea_popescu: but it stands to reason, if it levels it [09:43]
diana_coman: uhm, why would it necessarily have to go both ways? [09:43]
diana_coman: it could, I don't say it couldn't [09:43]
diana_coman: my sortage is a puny 135 [09:43]
mircea_popescu: well... what else explains that gap. [09:43]
mircea_popescu: lol this is like doing turn of the century physics over here. [09:44]
diana_coman: quite :))) [09:44]
mircea_popescu: "how do you explain the gap mr bohr!" [09:44]
diana_coman: well, there is also a gap between tinkering 512 and mcguyver 262 [09:44]
diana_coman: so dunno really [09:45]
mircea_popescu: yah. [09:45]
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima finish threading this grass, after which ima do a one cooking thing to measure, and a 1 bouq thing to measure and then make some imp hoes. [09:45]
mircea_popescu: im very torn on the hoes, tho. [09:46]
mircea_popescu: on one hand, any imp hoe i make must be overcrafted. on the other hand, to overcraft means to burn usable hoes. which ... dude tools are in short supply. [09:46]
diana_coman: from my point of view tools can wait now that I got the set of axes - they'll last me for a while in the end it seems, despite my initial fears [09:46]
mircea_popescu: oh ? quantify ? [09:47]
diana_coman: why all overcraft? [09:47]
mircea_popescu: because toolkit [09:47]
diana_coman: uhm, you mean you don't want to do any undercraft on mcguyver? [09:47]
mircea_popescu: pretty much. nor can i : the imp takes bms, which is high q anyway as i made it myself. [09:48]
mircea_popescu: been trying to buy low q bms for 2-3 months now. [09:48]
diana_coman: mhm, at ~80 tools/24 hours seems to be current going rate and given that I still have some building/crafting to do, sounds like there is some buffer [09:48]
mircea_popescu: yeah, that buffer is less than a week. [09:48]
diana_coman: aha,so you mean without bms, you need to overcraft [09:48]
diana_coman: *some* [09:49]
mircea_popescu: since the bms is already 150, and since the toolkt already decays, [09:49]
mircea_popescu: it's not feasible to undercraft this. [09:49]
diana_coman: well, with bms at 150 certainly not, of course [09:49]
mircea_popescu: but the thing is... 1 imp hoe decay like 20k say, takes 3 basic hoes decay 10k+ each. [09:50]
mircea_popescu: so it's a 50\% loss of mining power as it were. [09:50]
diana_coman: this is the other reason why I am not in a hurry about imps [09:50]
diana_coman: I'd rather have more basic tools atm [09:50]
mircea_popescu: then again... so it's a 50\% loss. if i make 200 imp hoes, that means... 24 hour's worth of mining. big whoop. [09:50]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i got some decent overcrafting hits in guyver. [09:51]
mircea_popescu: i think ima do it. [09:51]
diana_coman: I still need quantity to map the whole bloody thing and then if I get stuck I'll reach for cs as much as I can anyway [09:51]
diana_coman: (been doing some bot-mining with cs too and it went perfect) [09:51]
mircea_popescu: you do realise the 2k bottles you made will turn into at least 1k more basics. [09:51]
mircea_popescu: and i have materials for almost 3k more bottles, too. just gotta find a noob. [09:51]
diana_coman: that's what I hoped, hence why buffer < week seemed ok atm [09:51]
diana_coman: listen, I'll get them and then get wyrd to do it [09:52]
mircea_popescu: oh ? [09:52]
diana_coman: he does the job, just not hanging around in the chan too much [09:52]
mircea_popescu: won't you need dg and cft to go with the ibs ? [09:52]
diana_coman: he is working on 10 cr ords for me so I should then have some low q cr for you too to make the dg, right? [09:53]
mircea_popescu: splendid [09:53]
mircea_popescu: ok so the plan here is, i finish this grass, during which you feed me cr, i make dg, then i pass you the bundles. [09:53]
mircea_popescu: and then i make the io. [09:53]
mircea_popescu: this really looks like im booked crafting for the rest of the month. [09:53]
diana_coman: :))) [09:54]
mircea_popescu: i wanted to mine ;/ [09:54]
diana_coman: keeping you off the exploration :D [09:54]
mircea_popescu: lol [09:54]
mircea_popescu: i used up so many bps it's scandalous. [09:54]
diana_coman: tz tz [09:54]
mircea_popescu: btw you selling any lft bps or anything ? [09:55]
diana_coman: uhm, maybe some dg bps if you need those [09:55]
mircea_popescu: heh! but didn't you produce a huge pile of lft bps ? [09:56]
diana_coman: nope [09:56]
mircea_popescu: o.O [09:56]
mircea_popescu: what was the differential, 50 pts ? [09:56]
diana_coman: well, the overcraft is not huge it seems; not even that, no? from about 150 to 115 [09:56]
diana_coman: more like 35 [09:56]
mircea_popescu: oh [09:56]
mircea_popescu: so did you at least cover stock ? [09:57]
diana_coman: that yes + some random other bps [09:57]
mircea_popescu: aha [09:57]
diana_coman: but not in huge quantities anyway [09:57]
mircea_popescu: well, gotta get wyrd to do it then, replenish a little. [09:57]
diana_coman: yes [09:57]
mircea_popescu: i tell you tho, it's really nice to have the crafter huming along in the background :D [09:57]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> btw you selling any lft bps or anything ? << http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt [09:58]
diana_coman: for some reason that bot is VERY satisfying as it works there in one's name :))) [09:58]
mircea_popescu: and i tell you something else, this game'd have not been possible to fucking play without your bot. so how'd you like some s.mg stock warrants ? [09:58]
danielpbarron: ahem. [09:58]
diana_coman: yaaaay; would love them, plain and simple :) [09:58]
danielpbarron: still plays sans foxybot [09:59]
mircea_popescu: hehe ima put it in the next report. [09:59]
danielpbarron: i tried it the other day but it's unusable for my purposes [09:59]
diana_coman: how's that danielpbarron ? [09:59]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i'm seduced what can i tell yea. but you're right, i did macro the hell out of it originally too. [09:59]
danielpbarron: i need a mining bot that mines tinies and locks everything else [09:59]
danielpbarron: for some reason your bot wouldn't even mine the tinies, let alone lock the smalls [10:00]
mircea_popescu: it'd prolly not be hard to fix that much you know [10:00]
mircea_popescu: if it has lbn it does mine the tinies ? [10:00]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, it locks anything higher than smalls [10:00]
danielpbarron: well i don't often get things higher than small [10:00]
danielpbarron: i had bits of nothing when i tried this [10:00]
diana_coman: and I never heard of it not mining the tinies if you have bits of nothing, how did that happen? [10:00]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman where in the code is the switch to make it lock smalls too ? [10:00]
danielpbarron: it's funny she switched it to not lock smalls because of my complaint [10:00]
diana_coman: I guess I'll add another param for that too, to expose it, but yes, otherwise simple thing in the craftactivity [10:01]
mircea_popescu: yeah but it's a trivial thing [10:01]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman honestly no need to parametrize, let him edit and recompile. [10:01]
mircea_popescu: make the guy a coder whether he wants to or not! [10:01]
danielpbarron: already too many parameters on that thing [10:01]
mircea_popescu: yea [10:01]
mircea_popescu: find the line would you ? [10:02]
diana_coman: remembers how she dreamt this bot initially with a knobs-window to set it up to one's own desires [10:02]
mircea_popescu: easier for you to find it than for him [10:02]
diana_coman: ahahah, sure, 1 min [10:02]
diana_coman: ugh, more like 15 to fire up the dev env [10:02]
mircea_popescu: :p [10:02]
danielpbarron: and then for the crafting side, my macro does it fine [10:02]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i don't like about the macro, or at least what i used to use, that it needs the screen to be up to be able to click. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't have been fucking around with okcupid if i didn't have a dirty machine sitting around doing nothing right here. [10:04]
mircea_popescu: the fact that you can minimize it and it still goes is a huge + in my eyes. [10:04]
mircea_popescu: wow look at that q 900 grass heh. [10:07]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i'll take your ppb and ltf bps, how many you got ? [10:07]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, line 601 in botactivity.cpp is now "if (claimType.CompareNoCase("Unknown"))" ; change it to "if (claimType.CompareNoCase("Unknown") claimType.CompareNoCase("Small")) [10:08]
diana_coman: recompile and it will lock smalls and not build them [10:08]
mircea_popescu: imagines a day when bot auto-mines ords too. [10:10]
mircea_popescu: HENCE THE NAME [10:10]
diana_coman: heh, the list of what I'd like the bot to do is long and it easily gets longer, but sometimes it's a kind of play OR code and so far play wins almost always (except mainly when I am so fed up with some aspect that I go and code, lol) [10:11]
mircea_popescu: lol [10:11]
mircea_popescu: you need a 2nd computor. [10:11]
diana_coman: uhm, it's not that the problem [10:11]
mircea_popescu: ask alf about the laptop that's good to work on :D [10:11]
diana_coman: the problem is that I can't test things afterwards without interrupting the play [10:11]
diana_coman: that's the main issue [10:11]
diana_coman: (ftr I have one comp for work anyway, separate from the game etc) [10:12]
mircea_popescu: ic [10:12]
diana_coman: + I'm lazy, no doubts there, lol [10:13]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ? bps ? [10:30]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, it should just lock any claim that it can't build; that way i can control it with my inventory [10:41]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i had stepped away to mske breakfast. will be back in eulora in a bit [10:42]
diana_coman: ugh, even tinies if it runs out of bits of nothing? (that's precisely what happened to me at first and why I excluded smalls and tinies from any locks) [10:46]
diana_coman: anyway, easier still, just add: worldHandler::PicklockEID(markerID); [10:46]
danielpbarron: yes even tinies and the bot can get stuck when it fills with keys [10:47]
diana_coman: line 654 [10:47]
diana_coman: so that's another reason why I do not lock tinies [10:47]
diana_coman: because you'll get stuck with a full inventory [10:47]
danielpbarron: heh just remembered collecting ennumerations [10:48]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron good now ? [11:08]
danielpbarron: ya [11:09]
mircea_popescu: trade me! [11:10]
mircea_popescu: 366 * 29997 + 401 * 9999 ? [11:13]
mircea_popescu: 14988501 call it 15 even [11:13]
danielpbarron: ya [11:14]
mircea_popescu: sweet. thanks. [11:14]
danielpbarron: you're welcome and thank you [11:14]
diana_coman: hi wyrdmantis on my way to town [11:41]
diana_coman: oops danielpbarron turns out I was looking in the dev-version rather than release version of the bot; so in 1.3 release, it's line 562 in botactivity.cpp, basically where's a comment saying //not enough items to build claim, so just move on (don't lock tinies and smalls!!!) [11:44]
diana_coman: add there a line: worldHandler::PicklockEID(markerID); [11:44]
danielpbarron: k [11:45]
mircea_popescu: that thing where skill is on the cusp of levelling, all green but not dinged yet... [12:06]
mircea_popescu: cmon baby! [12:06]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, do you have any high q shards [12:06]
diana_coman: ? [12:06]
mircea_popescu: srs ? [12:06]
diana_coman: yes [12:06]
mircea_popescu: yeah i think i do [12:06]
mircea_popescu: well, 150ish [12:06]
diana_coman: that's good enough for me, as I would make them lower than that anyway [12:07]
mircea_popescu: aite lemme just level this and ill look [12:07]
mircea_popescu: how many do you need ? [12:07]
diana_coman: aha, ping me [12:07]
diana_coman: heh, have some 9k? [12:07]
mircea_popescu: possible actually. [12:07]
mircea_popescu: making your own ft ? [12:07]
diana_coman: yes [12:08]
diana_coman: since apparently I am better at cooking anyway, makes more sense [12:08]
mircea_popescu: guess so huh [12:09]
diana_coman: ahahaha, turns out there is another wm spot still on the beach there , but closer to water, lolz [12:16]
mircea_popescu: im still on the cusp ;/ [12:19]
mircea_popescu: ha-ha! level! [12:20]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman 9999 srs q 150. [12:22]
diana_coman: yay, on my way [12:22]
mircea_popescu: trade me [12:23]
mircea_popescu: 454×9999×1.25×1.5 = 8511648.75 [12:24]
mircea_popescu: cheers [12:24]
diana_coman: yupee [12:25]
mircea_popescu: sooo... today, i bought 15mn worth of bps from daniel, bought 12mn worth of bottles from you, sold you like 8.5mn worth of this and what was it, 800k worth of thread... [12:26]
mircea_popescu: closing in on 40mn worth of trade in one day over here. [12:26]
diana_coman: it's not over and there is cr coming and ibs [12:27]
mircea_popescu: o damn right you are! [12:27]
mircea_popescu: ima blog it lol [12:28]
diana_coman: the cft I think was also 2.8mn rather than 800k, no? [12:29]
diana_coman: cutting the mn now, lol [12:29]
mircea_popescu: right huh. [12:29]
Birdman: how much would you charge for some goops diana_coman [14:32]
danielpbarron: Birdman, http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt [14:34]
diana_coman: 125\% Birdman , usual really [14:34]
Birdman: i know im just trying to compare prices for quality [14:35]
diana_coman: I get it at 118 [14:36]
Birdman: Right, i cant be paying nearly twice as much for an extra ~20 points [14:37]
Birdman: Do you have some available diana? [14:37]
mircea_popescu: eh relax, ima make a huge batch in a little bit [14:37]
mircea_popescu: just waiting on her to deliver cr. [14:38]
Birdman: cool cool, has anyone noted that the bp bv is 1/10 the product bv? [14:39]
mircea_popescu: just about yea [14:40]
diana_coman: Birdman, if you are after high q it's prolly best to just wait for mp indeed as he'll get it 150+ [14:42]
Birdman: At a certain point it is a luxury, so im after the best deal really seeing as ill over craft at any of the qualities you guys produce [14:43]
mircea_popescu: a that is a point. [14:44]
diana_coman: 297 for cft at 109 q danielpbarron ? that's what, 150\%? uhm [14:44]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I have about 10k cr right now, waiting on the rest to come really; want this right now? [14:45]
diana_coman: Birdman, how much do you want? 470*1.18*1.25 comes at 693 per [14:46]
Birdman: danielpbarron I'll buy some of your srs for 140\% [14:47]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nah, take your time, still doing 30k grasse.s [14:47]
mircea_popescu: lol Birdman should have said something sooner, i sold 10k at 125 [14:47]
mircea_popescu: you don't benefit from this "trying to sit on everything" stance. it's anti-market. [14:48]
diana_coman: aha, I'll make them some 400 myself to get wyrd set up for this night (that should keep him for 8h+) [14:48]
Birdman: I just didnt know what i needed until yesterday heh [14:48]
diana_coman: Birdman, I suppose I can let go of some srs at 130\% if you want it [14:49]
diana_coman: seeing how it goes otherwise at 140, lol [14:49]
Birdman: I do [14:49]
diana_coman: so: how much goop? how much srs? [14:49]
Birdman: How much are you charging on your goops mircea_popescu? If it is the same 125\% i can wait for that [14:50]
mircea_popescu: lol arbitrage resolving market inefficiencies. [14:50]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [14:50]
Birdman: around 600 of them should do [14:50]
diana_coman: Birdman, made up your mind then exactly what you want ? [14:52]
Birdman: across the board? I'm working on the ords i want you to build and as far as tinkering goes i want 200 srs, 600 goops, and 350 braided threads [14:54]
diana_coman: ok, so ping me when you are in town for the srs then [14:55]
Birdman: im ready now [14:55]
diana_coman: 1 min to take it out [14:56]
Birdman: mhm take your time [14:56]
Birdman: wyrdmantis wanna make some money? [14:56]
Birdman: I have a ton of lotus ords that need noobing, big over craft [14:56]
diana_coman: Birdman, 200*454*1.5*1.3 [14:58]
diana_coman: 177k [14:58]
Birdman: change? [14:59]
Birdman: ty [14:59]
diana_coman: enjoy [14:59]
mircea_popescu: i think i have a pile of bct [15:01]
mircea_popescu: meh nm, they're low q. [15:01]
Birdman: wyrdmantis i have 28 ord claims but 36 keys, so there are 8 duds in the bunch just take em all, there is a tiny claim with the bundles in it thats been locked for awhile so im gonna come with you to take them out without mixing and hopefully it wont disappear with my stuff while i do that [15:08]
Birdman: had ords disappear seconds after being built, so i think it is dependant on time and whether or not it has been built [15:08]
Birdman: so keep that in mind when you're building, these are pretty old claims [15:11]
diana_coman: actually I lost one full ordinary claim that was new and still vanished within seconds of being built [15:20]
Birdman: odd [15:30]
Birdman: or normal, no one knows! [15:30]
Birdman: riddle me this, how could i have 28 ord enums, 36 keys, 8 of which havent turned to lbn yet over weeks of being in inventory\ [15:41]
diana_coman: sometimes keys don't turn to lbn [15:42]
Birdman: ah cool [15:42]
diana_coman: not sure exactly when/why; one theory had it to be because of not being in range/sector with the claim when it expires or something of sorts, but never really bothered to look into it tbh [15:42]
Birdman: i was just wondering if i was missing enums for claims [15:43]
diana_coman: never saw that [15:44]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they always do. [15:46]
mircea_popescu: unless the item was locked. [15:46]
diana_coman: nope [15:46]
mircea_popescu: hmpf. [15:46]
diana_coman: I really had keys which did NOT turn into bits although claim was left unlocked [15:47]
mircea_popescu: odd. [15:47]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I know; add to that the fact that I went and checked and the claim had gone but the key was still in my inventory (and still there after several re-logins) [15:49]
danielpbarron: i also have had keys that would not transform [16:16]
danielpbarron: see also, the keys littering the ground on npc hill [16:16]
Birdman: danielpbarron make me some braided threads [16:18]
danielpbarron: i have braided threads already, how many do you want? [16:27]
danielpbarron: on a related note, do you have cheap coarse frangible threads? [16:27]
Birdman: 350 [16:31]
Birdman: and ill check when in town [16:31]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, you around to get the cr and give the ibs? [16:31]
danielpbarron: Birdman, if you don't know then you don't probably, and I don't mean to make it sound like there's any rush to produce low quality threads [16:32]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i am [16:34]
diana_coman: yupee [16:34]
diana_coman: how many ibs do you have? [16:34]
mircea_popescu: like 33k lemme get it all out. [16:35]
diana_coman: cool, I'll sort out the cr and stuff meanwhile [16:35]
Birdman: i was just makin some earlier but it isnt more than 200 of them [16:39]
mircea_popescu: ok rdy. [16:39]
Birdman: waiting on that wyrdo to get here then ill head to town if you're around to sell the braids danielpbarron [16:39]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, trade [16:40]
mircea_popescu: im very ow! [16:40]
diana_coman: I asked you to trade and you did not answer, lol [16:41]
mircea_popescu: o sorry [16:41]
diana_coman: that ok? [16:41]
mircea_popescu: (9999 * 1.51 + 9999 * 1.52 + 8122 * 1.48 + 5661 * 1.52) * 1.25 * 255= 16231467.1875 [16:41]
mircea_popescu: (9636 + 9223 + 9914 + 9223 ) * 66 = 2507736 [16:42]
mircea_popescu: 13.723 mn net. [16:42]
diana_coman: ugh, need bank, 1 min [16:43]
diana_coman: fuck, overweight [16:44]
mircea_popescu: i can change [16:44]
diana_coman: thanks! [16:44]
mircea_popescu: cheerios! [16:44]
Birdman: so how does one pop when it comes to gathering? [17:37]
Birdman: if you cant does it store up to be looted in something else? [17:38]
mircea_popescu: well... finding a sizable ? [17:49]
Birdman: but at a certain point that is expected right? [17:51]
Birdman: at whatever level you'd possibly need to be [17:51]
Birdman: Or with dying in effect will the chance of finding anything past sizeable atronomical [17:51]
mircea_popescu: i dun follow [17:52]
Birdman: You actually answered my question, thanks. Is there nothing bigger than a sizeable? [17:54]
mircea_popescu: iirc only one was found to date. [17:56]
Birdman: diana_coman are you interested in wwb ords for 40k each? [18:52]
Birdman: danielpbarron on my way to town [18:52]
Birdman: and if not i am in town with ords for you otherwise [18:55]
Birdman: shit [19:54]
Birdman: gotta go save my bundles [19:54]
Birdman: really hope he picked it all up before he left [19:56]
danielpbarron: was he building claims? [20:08]
danielpbarron: idk how you guys do things but i taught him to put all the items on the outside of the claim so that they wouldn't get wiped [20:08]
danielpbarron: and also to see which ones have been built already [20:09]
Birdman: he was [20:15]
Birdman: and things dont get wiped on top of the claims? [20:15]

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