| danielpbarron: | i think we crashed it | [01:07] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, server is down | [01:08] |
| birdman: | i think so too | [01:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i know exactly what made it crash | [01:08] |
| birdman: | what | [01:08] |
| birdman: | soo can i go to sleep? | [01:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron what is that ? | [01:19] |
| danielpbarron: | we were doing a sacrifice | [01:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | you tried to sacrifice without the skill ? | [01:21] |
| danielpbarron: | and it crashed right as it would have looted | [01:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i saw the token appear and that's when it froze | [01:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. sacrificing w/o the skill currently crashes it. | [01:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | until chetty can get around to look into it this is a known limitation. | [01:22] |
| danielpbarron: | i think it crashed right after converting the bundle into a token, and right before removing the supplication and giving loot | [01:28] |
| diana_coman: | and quality went tumbling down again, like 7 points down in a few hours - anyone got a huge loot again or what? | [07:58] |
| diana_coman: | ha, more like 20 points actually... | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | is server down? chetty, mircea_popescu | [09:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron didja do it again ? | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i hit a 0.10 sr ordinary! | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | congrats I suppose | [09:50] |
| diana_coman: | now ae come somewhere at ..113? | [09:50] |
| diana_coman: | if 130 was low | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh... | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | server back up | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | at least the quality/value model still stands as it is | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | aha, thanks | [09:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | howssat ? | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, the ordinary I was building when the server went down didn't just vanish meanwhile, did it? | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | (with my bundle and everything...) | [09:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | not very likely. has it ? | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | it would seem so at a first sight, but let me go through each and every one of the keys in my inventory | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | if it had you got a lbn | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | (there was certainly NO claim where I spawned) | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, I have 1 lbn, but maybe it is for a different key | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | what ord was it ? | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | shiny rock.... | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, same as mine | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess game gotta pay for the 0.10 somehow. | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | I'm sure it is not quite same | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | oh yeah, the logical thing being that some players gotta stop playing somehow | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, the claim is gone with the bundle too | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | I'll build now the second one - maybe it crashes again the same | [09:58] |
| diana_coman: | 1 lbn for an ord bundle is a kind of anti-record - maybe there should really be a board for those too | [10:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima give you 50k next we meet. | [10:00] |
| diana_coman: | 140sr at 154q for this one, lol | [10:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | are you looking for low or high sr ? | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | I am looking for build xp mainly | [10:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | a | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | the sr happened because of covering the map in that area really | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | plus I get some claims that are positioned awfully so prolly best to build them as soon as possible really | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | (as I really hit the map at precise coords, some are ...) | [10:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | ... ? | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | some are probably not really reachable directly, hence I think it's best to build them right now | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you mean not reachable ? | [10:09] |
| diana_coman: | for instance in the crevice of that central area | [10:09] |
| diana_coman: | with a hop I can get there, but not really if walking directly (and atm I let it hop everywhere for precision, just hop 3 points at every explore) | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [10:10] |
| diana_coman: | the map certainly looks very nice like that all order and precision, but so far it's useless | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | haha why ? | [10:11] |
| diana_coman: | nothing new | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | even that is useful. | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | I know - I have tons of that kind of usefulness all lying around | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | well, on the bright side I guess I should at least mention that the pacademia nut spot is indeed something quite tiny: found them within a 10 coordinates radius, but even in that there is other stuff too; still, the pacademia nut were found before and the spot was clearly quite tiny indeed | [10:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [10:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | incidentally, anyone got some low fruit and cr for sale ? | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | and then I go and take a break, read a book...which says on the 2nd page just as I was getting comfy with it: "Your finding nothing is valuable as it is a part of the discovery process" | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | :D | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | eulora conspiraci! | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | would like to kick this universe in its pacademia nuts or something right now | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahahaha | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | first you gotta... find them | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | precisely | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, might have some fruit, will look next time I'm in town | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | expects to see a " diana_coman has done 0.1 btc worth of reading!" notice anytime soon | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | the cr stocks are prolly low as I remember I sold 1k to daniel | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | more like 0.01 at best | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, im working on a large batch of ibs now. will want to offer a package to make me 1500 ltf to a noob. the thread i got, the dg i gotta make, and im short. | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i want you know, 5k rf 2k cr | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, lbn for that? | [10:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | once i get this delivered ima have 1500 io, ready to go into either milk or shaped slag | [10:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | depending whether a noob wants to level tinker or cooking | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | got like 2k rf around 174 | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | cr only 700 around 180 but tbh I'd rather mine more cr than sell this one right now given the recent q drop | [11:01] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu ^ | [11:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah srsly, get new stuff | [11:01] |
| diana_coman: | are you selling 10k lbn? or more? | [11:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | 18k is the plan. | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, plan for when? | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | something like tomorrow i would guess. | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | depends how many nights i miss | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | I'd take it all | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q do you tinker ? | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | hm, let me do a quick run | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | 154 | [11:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i'd defo prefer someone lower. but if can't find one... | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | what for you mean? | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | I'm not sure I have time to do loads of tinkering really | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | I need to focus on the explore/building as atm that's my main priority | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh shit i was fixated on lft | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | sorry. lbn. yeah was selling another batch at what was it, 69 ? | [11:06] |
| diana_coman: | that's why I will buy that load of lbn - more a matter of not wasting time as it will take me quite some time to make it all, get everything etc | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | 67. am i getting out 10k for ya ? | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | sure | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | trade me diana_coman | [11:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's that hold you for, like 2 days ? | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | it can hold longer when I'm mining in rare areas | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you need cft too ? | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | mhm, how do you sell that? | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | and what q? | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | hopefully i can persuade grenadine to hit my ~30 or so grass ords get me some stuff to cft. | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | like 480 ea. 206 iirc ? something. | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | the issue with grass ord is that they take slithy tove | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, ima try and make more lbn by fri, but no guarantees. | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, I'd take 10k of that cft too | [11:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh i doubt i got that much. lemme look. | [11:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2k you can have. q207. | [11:13] |
| diana_coman: | oh my, only 2k cft, what is the world coming to | [11:14] |
| diana_coman: | lol, I'll take it | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | k | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | trade me | [11:14] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | cheerz | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | I'm off to map the rf area then, killing two molluscs with the same bit of nothing or some such | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah good idea. | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | hopefully your rf q is down to like 8 by now. | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | ahaahahaha | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | neah, 113 | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | good. | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, almost below 100 :))) | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | funny thing, in eulora it's not even clear what personal performance references are actually insult. | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | is it GOOD that your q dropped ? bad ? who the hell knows | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | frustrating? | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | :))) | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | it IS after all a REALISTIC computer game | [11:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | just liek irl. | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | except the satisfying sound and feel when you actually break something | [11:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | "eulora masterfully implements all the annoying bits about being alive." | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | that's what I had in mind when I read the very first description of what you wanted it to be really, lol | [11:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | (srsly, i suspect a large portion of why modern games suck so bad is that people keep focusing on making them pleasant) | [11:18] |
| diana_coman: | oh noes, 155, forgot that rf is basic, hence sortage | [11:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | aww | [11:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much are you gonna want for it ? | [11:23] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> well, i'd defo prefer someone lower. but if can't find one... << i'm lower | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q do you get ? | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> how much are you gonna want for it ? <- it's prolly still fine with your formula as it still gives some 25\% doesn't it? | [11:46] |
| diana_coman: | I'm fine with 25\% | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman my formula would pay you as per q ~180, ie, 15\% or so | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | i tinker quality 140 or so | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron oh this was about getting rf/cr for the goop. | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | as it happens q 140 gets 25\% exactly, fancy that. | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i can get large amounts of any thing really | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i just don't know where to find the cr | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | mhm, I'll sell it for 25\%, what can I say | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | otherwise I'll keep it, no hurry | [11:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron can you do a rehash of that trick where you got wm q 22 ? | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | well not specifically shrooms, as i need snakeskin | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | although maybe now that the base values of wine have been fixed, i can get those with some reliability | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | until my altar runs out | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | i could probably still get a bunch from smalls and just save up the ordinaries | [11:59] |
| danielpbarron: | will be needing chetty sticks | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah but rf. | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | then you can get me low rf, she can get me middle cr and we got a show on the road. | [12:00] |
| danielpbarron: | i can get that no problem | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright it's a deal then. get me even 10k, i can always use it. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman ill buy you cr at 125\%, and that's that. | [12:03] |
| diana_coman: | kk | [12:03] |
| diana_coman: | considering earlier trouble people had finding tubers or other resources from the map, I've added a page to the cookbook with more detailed info on harvestables too, including one concrete & verified set of coordinates where I actually hit the ground and found a claim, such as: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/resources/nondescripttubers.html | [12:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey that's nice. | [12:41] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, just wrong link, sorry: starting from http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/resources.html so that'd be http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/nondescripttubers.html | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | next on the list for the cookbook is an update on bps and then hopefully some helpful additional stuff - that'll take a while | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | first will be to get those linked from the bps anyway | [12:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool beans | [13:11] |
| danielpbarron: | what does 125\% on cr mean? | [13:36] |
| danielpbarron: | is that 25 on top of quality adjustment? or 25 on top of base at 100 q? | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron your low q rf i'll pay as per formula, whatever it comes to, 2-300\%. her really-too-high cr i'll pay 125\% on. | [13:44] |
| danielpbarron: | what is the formula? i'm gonna want more than base value on it | [14:38] |
| danielpbarron: | otherwise i'll keep it myself to make goop | [14:38] |
| danielpbarron: | so 125\% on cr quality (let's say) 150 means a price of 137 per unit? | [14:40] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron it's 125\% on base value adjusted for quality | [14:41] |
| danielpbarron: | ah, k | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | and you'll prolly get more than 125\% with the formula as your q is lower | [14:41] |
| danielpbarron: | and he's gonna mix that with low quality stuff?? | [14:41] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i want way more than 125\% | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | well, I guess he has no other low q cr | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | well that's a shame | [14:42] |
| diana_coman: | not sure how much more | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | i can get much more cr for less effort.. | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | and less expensive too | [14:42] |
| diana_coman: | maybe jurov gets it for instance | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | that would make more sense | [14:42] |
| diana_coman: | sure, just that it was quite considerable effort to find the location too, you know? | [14:42] |
| diana_coman: | and no, you cannot get much more cr for less effort now, can you? | [14:43] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i can | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | you could, theoretically, yes, but you can't | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you found the location? | [14:43] |
| danielpbarron: | you said 100k for the location if i want | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | yes, so do you want it? | [14:43] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron hey, get the cr too, ima pay the same for cr you get for rf. | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | but if you can't get cr what am i to do. | [14:47] |
| danielpbarron: | and what is it you pay? | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i cook 207 atm, so if you find say q 27 then you get paid for q 117 or 433\% of base value | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you find q 107 you get paid for q 157, ie ~150\% of base value | [14:48] |
| danielpbarron: | that 2nd example sounds better | [14:48] |
| danielpbarron: | the first one, i'd rather use it myself | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can also make the dg yourself, sure, ill supply high cft/ibs and get bottles. the only catch being that i'd really like for the bottle crafter to be q100ish or under. | [14:49] |
| danielpbarron: | my plan is to end up with low shaped slags | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | so danielpbarron, trade | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | will give you a key to a tiny, you can even build it, lol | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | my plan is the same! | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | there, enjoy | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, ping me when you are around for your 50k | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | ftr the spot is quite small, so kind of keep it around there | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | anyway atm I have mapped the area so you'll find loads of claims to show you a bit around if you go now | [14:52] |
| jurov: | foxy i'm in | [17:00] |
| jurov: | er.. diana_coman ^ | [17:00] |
| jurov: | :) | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha jurov, kk, give me a few minutes to come to town | [17:00] |
| jurov: | also, several people sid they will be buying coppers soon | [17:00] |
| jurov: | which never happened... i prolly should raise prices | [17:01] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: no haste | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | ahahahahaha | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | errr jurov trade | [17:02] |
| jurov: | thanks! | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy | [17:03] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu have highq cft? | [22:27] |
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