#eulora Logs for 20 Nov 2015



November 20th, 2015 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: 538326.08 + 82684 = 621010, so you get 82684 / 621010 = 13.3144394\% [00:00]
mircea_popescu: best so far! [00:00]
hanbot: nice [00:00]
mircea_popescu: kinda weird thing with this moss, so we did two spots maybe 5 coords apart. [00:02]
mircea_popescu: of the 5 ordinaries, 4 were clustered in one spot. [00:02]
mircea_popescu: 3434! not bad. [00:18]
mircea_popescu: 3434 * 1.35 * 157 = 727836.3 [00:18]
mircea_popescu: a 17\% gain! your share, 96907 [00:19]
mircea_popescu: call it 100k so it's round [00:19]
hanbot: ty [00:19]
DianaComan: hanbot congrats - and I want one of those scones too ! [01:07]
DianaComan: <mircea_popescu> DianaComan how much for 400 ST ? <- that's pretty much all there's left of st , so 6mn - possibly hanbot will find those if she uses a few sticks or something [01:11]
mircea_popescu: why her specifically ? [07:28]
mircea_popescu: and the reason i ask is, i have 4k shrooms together, working on the moss, like 20\% done yest. once i get the boulders and enough high ibs to make a noob make 4k lft, i will be making 4k io. [07:29]
mircea_popescu: once i have 4k io, i'll need to make 20k slag, which obviously is 100k flotsam but that aside - once it's made i can have a noob make me 4k shaped slag, which means... [07:30]
mircea_popescu: 400 samovars. [07:30]
mircea_popescu: which is just about enough samovars to make the FT for all the ppb i'm making. [07:30]
mircea_popescu: will obviously need 4k srs, which is another 20k sr on top of the 60k from slag, so 100k of this, too. [07:30]
mircea_popescu: but whatchagonnado. [07:30]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu> why her specifically ? <- because she's really very lucky it seems at mining, kind of always has been, hasn't she? [07:50]
DianaComan: I will possibly find it in the end on the last spot I dig as part of systematically covering the map, but that is clearly way slower than any other approach pretty much, lol [07:51]
mircea_popescu: so far mining she's been doing the building on my claims. [07:52]
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty good system, really : take noob mining, split result by \% of base value contributed. [07:52]
DianaComan: uhm, this: mircea_popescu> so in 15 sticks i got 1 ord ; in 9 sticks she got 3 ords. [07:52]
DianaComan: is that on your claims? [07:52]
mircea_popescu: ah right you are, this time she used a few sticks too just to see. [07:53]
mircea_popescu: last time it was all my sticks. [07:53]
DianaComan: well, and previously she got those huge pops on tiny and small and whatnot [07:53]
DianaComan: etc [07:53]
mircea_popescu: actually on tiny. [07:53]
DianaComan: there was something else on small I think she has it on her blog [07:53]
mircea_popescu: was it a small ? i recall large tpt haul out of a tiny [07:53]
DianaComan: I'm sure she has a more precise record if needed, but it seems clear enough to me so far that she really is good at this simply for whatever reason [07:54]
mircea_popescu: anyway, to continue the thing with the st : i see 0 ppb buying appetite from anyone else, so i figure you're the one that's going to end up making all the sticks. [07:54]
DianaComan: anyway, I was quite precise there: I really have 453 st in TOTAL and that is that [07:55]
mircea_popescu: turns out lobbes taking the st wasn't that silly after all [07:55]
mircea_popescu: what he got 100 ? 2 ? [07:55]
DianaComan: and yes, I need some for claims anyway - I was kind of holding on hoping for better q, but given the drop in quality otherwise I really need to just go ahead and build all ordinaries I can [07:55]
DianaComan: no idea [07:55]
mircea_popescu: there's also a dozen once someone turns in enough skill items in that old thread [07:56]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan isn't lower quality good ? [07:56]
DianaComan: for mining? [07:56]
DianaComan: god no [07:56]
mircea_popescu: ah [07:56]
mircea_popescu: i've not even been mining last week, no idea what it might be anymore. [07:56]
DianaComan: well, it's kind of : not much else I CAN actually do anyway so [07:57]
mircea_popescu: what q you getting ? [07:57]
DianaComan: I'll have to check again as I left it making threads this night ; yest it was like 137 on lumber/mining, 160 on farming, 188 on basics [07:58]
mircea_popescu: not terribru. [07:58]
mircea_popescu: iirc i was never 137 on non-basics [07:59]
mircea_popescu: btw, we're short on lh now too. you got ? [07:59]
mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/Bandar\%20Toolkit_recipes.html <oh, no stick ? [08:01]
lobbesbot: Title: Recipes for Bandar Toolkit (at www.dianacoman.com) [08:01]
DianaComan: I didn't have it last time I updated that, guess it needs an update too [08:01]
DianaComan: will put it on the list for later today [08:01]
mircea_popescu: trying to remember if there's any gotchas. 3 ppb, 1 ft, what else was there ? [08:02]
DianaComan: pss [08:03]
DianaComan: 1-10 [08:03]
mircea_popescu: oh. ha! [08:03]
DianaComan: and thorns [08:03]
DianaComan: 7 thorns [08:03]
mircea_popescu: well thorns we have, in volume, but low q. [08:03]
DianaComan: sucks [08:03]
DianaComan: I use only as high q as I can and probably I'll still need a noob to do a few runs to really get more bps [08:03]
DianaComan: anyway it doesn't make sense to use your 200+ ppb and then stuck in some low q thorns [08:03]
DianaComan: better get some noob make the ppb too then [08:04]
mircea_popescu: anyway, to tally this : 2k sticks takes 6k ppb, of which i've already done like half, +2k ft, which needs 400 samovars, which need 4k shaped slag, which needs 4k oil and 20k slag and 4k srs. [08:04]
mircea_popescu: why would you want noob for ppb ? [08:05]
DianaComan: only if you go for low q thorns I meant [08:05]
mircea_popescu: so we have 100k flotsam for slag + hm what was ibs, 3 flotsam each ? [08:05]
DianaComan: as I use high q ppb, then I want everything else as high q as possible really [08:05]
mircea_popescu: well obviously, but the thorns are 1k out of a 20k recipe. [08:05]
DianaComan: ibs is there, don't remember really [08:05]
mircea_popescu: 2 flotsam 1 sr. 4k lft = 48k ibs = looky here, another 100k f 50k sr. [08:06]
DianaComan: yeah, but the pss will also be less than the ppb anyway and then it all adds up and my overall feeling is that it does make a diff wrt to final loot tally [08:06]
DianaComan: listen, re st [08:07]
DianaComan: we can probably reach a deal on it given I need the toothpaste [08:07]
mircea_popescu: so. flotsam, 200k (100k slag, 100k ibs) + sr, 130k ( 60k slag, 50k ibs, 20k srs) + 400 ST + 20k (high) PSS + 14k (high) TPT [08:07]
DianaComan: + the toothpaste takes ae and all that shit [08:09]
mircea_popescu: now the slag needs to be high, which means 60k sr and 100k flotsam i mean low, but the rest need to be low, which means 100k flotsam and 70k sr i need high. which means i'll have to go mine for it. [08:09]
mircea_popescu: a right, 2k ae for the ft too! [08:09]
DianaComan: and fuck the q in the process again, wonderful [08:09]
mircea_popescu: i know, i shall codename this project wonderful! [08:09]
DianaComan: you'll defo NOT have 2k ae high q AND high q flotsam etc [08:09]
DianaComan: unless we wait for 1 month or so possibly [08:10]
mircea_popescu: why not ? [08:10]
DianaComan: as you mine flotsam high q, you cause q to drop otherwise, hence no high q ae [08:10]
DianaComan: simple [08:10]
mircea_popescu: maybe we get someone with miner skill. [08:10]
DianaComan: well, atm there is nobody; otherwise sure; also if we just wait, hopefully the q can be brought up again in time, of course [08:11]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't see how this whole boatload can be completed in less than a month. [08:11]
DianaComan: lots of options, just none right now [08:11]
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, if you pop 100k flotsam you got it right off. but otherwise... i get about 2k a day or so. 20 trips. [08:11]
mircea_popescu: that's 2 months for me to get just the flotsam. [08:12]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the upside of this coin is that at least this means sticks process isn't locked. [08:12]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan btw, i've started processing my last 5k of low sr, into srs. will have a final batch of ft in a few hours. [08:13]
DianaComan: kk, I'll prolly be around for a few hours now anyway [08:13]
mircea_popescu: you know... i do have an ae ordinary here... [08:14]
mircea_popescu: a ten million bundle might solve the ae problem. [08:14]
mircea_popescu: ah, wait, it's ,mining isnt it. 130q. [08:14]
DianaComan: yes [08:14]
DianaComan: I actually have one too [08:14]
DianaComan: I probably should build that one too anyway [08:14]
DianaComan: it's kind of frustrating how much time it takes to go through all the keys in the storage etc [08:15]
mircea_popescu: thinking about it i see no problem paying 15k ea for 400 st. [08:21]
mircea_popescu: fair is fair, and it is rare enough. [08:21]
mircea_popescu: yeah once chetty gets back on the horse having the claim type in the key name would be good. [08:22]
DianaComan: that'd be great [08:25]
DianaComan: I was seriously considering rummaging through graphics file and changing colours of keys or something based on tiny/small/etc at least [08:26]
DianaComan: but it's kind of low priority compared to everything else [08:26]
mircea_popescu: i can see that. [08:41]
mircea_popescu: say when you're in town, ill take the st and pass you the baubles. [08:54]
mircea_popescu: no rush, i'll be here forever making rock shards like some god damned savage. [08:54]
DianaComan: ha ha, bashing rocks [09:02]
DianaComan: actually: when would you start on the things/need the high q flotsam and whatever else was high q basics? [09:02]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu I am actually in town as I keep going and coming back to train/store the things from the ords [09:03]
mircea_popescu: onesec will need relog. [09:04]
DianaComan: k [09:05]
mircea_popescu: gotta visit the skystores. [09:05]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan trade [09:08]
mircea_popescu: i'm heavy [09:08]
mircea_popescu: aren't they pretty ? [09:08]
DianaComan: that's exactly what I was thinking: so shiny and nice [09:08]
DianaComan: thanks! [09:08]
mircea_popescu: no no, ty. [09:08]
DianaComan: their base value says 43k actually, so that makes actually much more sense with the rastrum base value etc [09:09]
mircea_popescu: aha. [09:09]
mircea_popescu: who knew auctions could go 100000\% [09:09]
mircea_popescu: prolly a record. [09:09]
DianaComan: well, there was no way to really know the actual value of the thing or line even upfront at all [09:10]
DianaComan: so ... [09:10]
mircea_popescu: problem with pricing in eulora is that everything is open ended. [09:10]
mircea_popescu: realistic game = no closed form solutions. [09:11]
DianaComan: + for the moment I find it a bit weird that jewellery as it were seems to consist in items that are kind of cheaper than ...cooked stuff? [09:11]
DianaComan: lolz [09:11]
mircea_popescu: but who the fuck knows this. certainly not "developers" [09:11]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan mostly because the line isn't really implemented yet, mostly because the plan is to have the first enchantables come out of there and that needs some more coding. [09:12]
DianaComan: don't really know if the line has really a lot of items atm anyway [09:12]
DianaComan: aha, that's what I thought pretty much, hence not really willing to run down the only table by making only rastrums, neckerbockers and earrings [09:12]
mircea_popescu: earrings will eventually give a slight bonus to carry capacity. [09:12]
DianaComan: yeah, if one can carry those earrings around all day, they certainly can carry more :D [09:13]
mircea_popescu: lol [09:13]
DianaComan: and so, now there are baubles, there will be of course need for ...unsteady scaffoldings [09:13]
DianaComan: wonderful2? [09:13]
mircea_popescu: just need molluscs, i got the rest pre-made for 2. [09:14]
mircea_popescu: (scaffolding also takes st. 3 of them.) [09:14]
DianaComan: hm, how many molluscs per us? [09:14]
mircea_popescu: 15 [09:14]
DianaComan: ugh, and I have 10+ wwb ordinaries that take canines and and and.... hate those unfound resources [09:14]
DianaComan: sigh [09:15]
mircea_popescu: o wait, some canines i might sell. lemme see what i got. [09:15]
DianaComan: the turning wheels will have to wait then I guess [09:15]
mircea_popescu: why would mollucs wait on wwb ?! [09:15]
DianaComan: no, not on wwb, not related [09:15]
mircea_popescu: i got a dozen grc. [09:15]
mircea_popescu: q 100. somehow doubt putting them into ords is such a good idea ? [09:16]
DianaComan: it's just that I keep hitting those missing resources every where I turn, lol [09:16]
DianaComan: exactly [09:16]
DianaComan: I also still have about 10 or so, also 100q [09:16]
DianaComan: and yeah, very reluctant to put them in ordinaries [09:16]
DianaComan: I'll do it only in true desperation I guess, lol [09:16]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which once this ft batch is done i guess ima make a pile of sups for grenadine [09:17]
mircea_popescu: i work all day so teh women can play!!11 [09:17]
DianaComan: ha hahahaa [09:17]
mircea_popescu: UNFARE [09:17]
DianaComan: actually, was it from the altar that she got those scones or from building? [09:17]
mircea_popescu: well it'd better be not out of building seeing how then i shouyld get [09:18]
DianaComan: aha [09:18]
mircea_popescu: the thing with us is, you want MY high q product do you ? [09:19]
DianaComan: it is basically the main thing in the wheel recipe as otherwise bauble + 3 toolkits [09:19]
DianaComan: so I guess yes [09:19]
mircea_popescu: are you making the so then ? [09:19]
DianaComan: otherwise not sure what/if any other bps [09:19]
DianaComan: I can make it if that's any help, but I prolly still get some 150q at least on cooking I suppose [09:20]
mircea_popescu: even so. [09:20]
DianaComan: maybe mod6 gets in again... [09:20]
mircea_popescu: was he cooking ? [09:20]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you like cooking any ? [09:21]
DianaComan: well, he can get a book anyway, can't he? [09:21]
mircea_popescu: 60k each, kinda a waste of xp [09:21]
DianaComan: ah, true [09:21]
mircea_popescu: welll... 60k base. more like 120k+ irl. [09:21]
DianaComan: well, as I said, I can do the so if needed, sure [09:21]
mircea_popescu: no oyu gotta want and be all excitedly ecstatic about it! [09:22]
DianaComan: 59 gung-ho so I might still lose some xp there for all I know [09:22]
mircea_popescu: well how much xp does a known qty give you ? [09:22]
mircea_popescu: like say a ft [09:22]
DianaComan: I haven't cooked in ages at all, lol [09:23]
mircea_popescu: this is like "where do you go to school ?" "i dunno, haven't been in ages!" [09:23]
DianaComan: prolly it would be for the best to track those numbers down too , but really the list is already longer than my both arms :p [09:23]
mircea_popescu: go to alf, take shiva lessons. [09:23]
DianaComan: ha, motherhood does that at least to some extent, but apparently the shorter extent or something [09:24]
mircea_popescu: if only you were lucky [09:25]
mircea_popescu: and had triplets [09:25]
DianaComan: since I almost died and he almost dies as it was anyway, guess luck in that case would have meant death for sure [09:25]
DianaComan: died, not dies [09:25]
DianaComan: who's to say what luck is anyway [09:26]
mircea_popescu: o.O [09:26]
danielpbarron: what needs cooking? and how much do samovars go for these days? [09:27]
mircea_popescu: bout 150\% or so. [09:27]
mircea_popescu: what needs cooking is some suspect ointment once i get molluscs. like 6 or so. [09:27]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan i dun have enough ae to make ft. [12:06]
DianaComan: how is that given that I sold you more ae even than for what ppb I had from you? [12:07]
DianaComan: or you mean ft for all the new ppb or what? [12:07]
mircea_popescu: im working on a batch of 100 ft atm. [12:07]
mircea_popescu: and you wanna buy more ppb too ? [12:07]
DianaComan: yes [12:07]
DianaComan: but well, I need first to get quality higher anyway [12:07]
mircea_popescu: aha. [12:07]
DianaComan: so not much sense going right now after ae [12:07]
mircea_popescu: well, scare me up some ae meanwhile. this ft be done in about an hour, pass you a chunk of ppb then too. [12:08]
DianaComan: ugh, what good is the ae still at 137 or whatever? [12:08]
DianaComan: and how much is that scare you want anyway? [12:08]
mircea_popescu: what am i going to do, wait the craft ? [12:08]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, like 30. [12:09]
DianaComan: lemme finish with this stick and I'll go and check, that might be kind of doable though it's kind of lousy to go now after ae on the spot, yuck [12:09]
mircea_popescu: well ok, then what i do is store the leftovers srs and restart the ft line later on. [12:09]
mircea_popescu: prolly have like 60 or so ft here then. [12:09]
DianaComan: that really sounds better [12:10]
mircea_popescu: settled then. [12:10]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu I'm in town, do you want to trade the 60 or so ft now? [12:31]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan still need to make 20 of em. [13:15]
DianaComan: oh, I even looked in storage and I have 20 ae more, but really exactly 20 [13:17]
DianaComan: so not really doing much [13:18]
DianaComan: anyway, it can wait, no hurry [13:18]
DianaComan: will take the 60 ft later as I'll go afk for a while now [13:18]
DianaComan: actually just realised it's more the molluscs that block the building of remarkables, not really the double distillates, as there are some remarkables that take only so and/or grubsilk thread [13:22]
DianaComan: 28 so and I could build a remarkable shiny rock [13:22]
mircea_popescu: i have some thnat really only take thread and some toolkits. [13:23]
DianaComan: don't recall what does the grubsilk thing take - is that the bottleneck? or why not build them otherwise? [14:15]
mircea_popescu: i'd be building them if i didn't build other things [14:24]
mircea_popescu: all ti takes is gin [14:24]
DianaComan: oh, so tlc, hmm [14:50]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan 3 left to go [15:07]
DianaComan: kk, I'm a bit further digging up stuff, ping me when it's done and I'll get back to town [15:08]
mircea_popescu: kk [15:09]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan done [15:36]
DianaComan: on my way [15:36]
DianaComan: ha ha, 60 was 92? [15:38]
mircea_popescu: 645 * 2.03 * 4466 * 1.25 + 92 * 2.06 * 5623 * 1.42 * 1.25 = 9201012.329 [15:39]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [15:40]
mircea_popescu: you selling anu of the result ? [15:40]
DianaComan: do you want in the end the 20 ae now? [15:40]
mircea_popescu: nah going to do a bbb and supp run now, then make more ppb. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: get me a large pile these days tho, otherwise no way to ft. [15:41]
DianaComan: sure, atm anyway the ppb+ft I have would take quite a while to craft as it is [15:41]
DianaComan: + if I craft too much, no increase in quality so it's kind of a bitch to balance in any reasonable way [15:42]
mircea_popescu: aha. [15:42]
DianaComan: if I get to make a huge pile of sticks, I'll sell some, sure, so far I pretty much used up all I made as soon as I got the chance [15:43]
mircea_popescu: ha [15:43]
DianaComan: the best was some 120 lh from an ord I guess [15:43]
DianaComan: at least it bumped up a bit my building as it's hell to get it to budge now [15:43]
mircea_popescu: o yeah i need lh too [15:44]
mircea_popescu: god damned, my bbb bundle is 152. this is the absolute fucking worst [15:45]
DianaComan: do you remember at all what was that remarkable thread only of? I seem to have/find only thread+so [15:45]
mircea_popescu: .54 * 5355 = 2891.7 [15:45]
mircea_popescu: exactly the samovar decay. [15:45]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan grass. [15:45]
DianaComan: neah, you got that wrong, it nees so too [15:46]
mircea_popescu: does it ? [15:46]
DianaComan: 41 threads and 7 so [15:46]
DianaComan: yep [15:46]
mircea_popescu: ah k then [15:46]
DianaComan: I'd really love to build some remarkables now to just move this q up somehow [15:47]
mircea_popescu: well, auction ord bundle technically bigger than a remarkable. [15:47]
DianaComan: yeah, but for one thing it is only one and for the other who knows where it ends up exactly as price [15:48]
DianaComan: + 1 week until it, lol [15:49]
mircea_popescu: yea [15:51]
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danielpbarron: i'm gonna get cancer from all this social media [22:21]
thestringpuller: i'll def subscribe to the youtube channel [22:47]
mod6: haha, nice mugshot [22:59]

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