| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron there's no use for high q shrooms that i know of tho ? | [00:32] |
| danielpbarron: | overcrafting improbable oil? | [00:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess. | [01:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | omfg | [01:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | dumbass tool ate my last SO. god damned it... | [01:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron you want to make me 8 unsteady scaffoldings ? | [01:45] |
| danielpbarron: | perhaps | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other news, selling cft, q 206, at 465 ea | [09:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i want 700k less the value of the ointment in excess of its base value, in return you get the sccaffoldings at approx quality 152 | [09:35] |
| DianaComan: | mircea_popescu I want 5k of that cft please | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron wait you what ? | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | DianaComan alright, about 3k made so far. | [09:41] |
| DianaComan: | oh, will get it after the event then I guess | [09:41] |
| DianaComan: | did it change again and it is worthwhile for you to process your own grass? | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | not really worthwhile, but had to do something overnight. | [09:44] |
| DianaComan: | aha | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot : 24*1.87*59*1.25 + 144 * 58 * 2.92 * 1.25 + 1500 * 465 + 24 * 2.08 * 62990 * 1.25 + 1 bp on credit = 4661870.7 | [10:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ill buy your eventual us bps past that first at q125. | [10:05] |
| mod6: | hi all, I might be afk while this weeks auction is going on :[ | [12:14] |
| mod6: | but good luck to all participants! | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot 503 * 540 * 1.48 = 401997.6 | [12:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | settle at the end | [12:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | everyone ready for this week's auction ? | [12:56] |
| hanbot: | i am | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | goes afk to prepare the packages. | [12:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | alrighty, here we go. | [13:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | DianaComan 1.286655 | [13:11] |
| DianaComan: | thanks! | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy | [13:12] |
| danielpbarron: | running late | [13:49] |
| jurov: | lol "Grenadine has managed 0.08BTC of (null)" | [13:53] |
| DianaComan: | :))) | [13:53] |
| hanbot: | hehe. they were very tiny sparkles, in fact. i'ma put up some screenshots later | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey | [14:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i guess it did work after all huh. | [14:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | how many sparks is 8 mn hanbot ? | [14:07] |
| hanbot: | 196 q51 | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | lordy. | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | didn't you pay 10 mn for a set of 20 or something ? | [14:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | and trade me at yer leisure, got the cc made. | [14:08] |
| hanbot: | ok | [14:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | 56 * 3708 * 2.06 * 1.25 = 534693.6 | [14:10] |
| hanbot: | ty. and i paid 65M for 21 x 176q | [14:11] |
| hanbot: | x_x | [14:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then the set you just made is worth 200mn ? | [14:11] |
| danielpbarron: | is here | [14:12] |
| hanbot: | something like that yeah | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | where's here danielpbarron ? | [14:13] |
| danielpbarron: | in game | [14:13] |
| hanbot: | wanna do the bp trade danielpbarron? i'll get stuff outta storage if so | [14:13] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [14:13] |
| hanbot: | kk | [14:13] |
| danielpbarron: | what is the whole auction over already? | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yeah | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's 7:15 you know | [14:15] |
| hanbot: | so danielpbarron: 527060 the cc, 332290 slag, 960300 ppb, 500500 dg = 2320150. originally stated counts less 50 count each | [14:21] |
| hanbot: | wonders if the particularly promising branch icon's similarity to a hashpipe was intentional | [14:24] |
| hanbot: | danielpbarron trade me w/e ready (i'm stupendously overweight ofc) | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | the branch of great promise! | [14:26] |
| hanbot: | look at that, exact change! | [14:26] |
| hanbot: | tyvm | [14:26] |
| danielpbarron: | yw | [14:28] |
| danielpbarron: | so nothing else is going on then? | [14:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. i'm buying stuff. | [14:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | sell me some md. | [14:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i have some keys to locked tiny claims for sale -> http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/claims.txt | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | aww i want like 5000 shrooms | [15:13] |
| danielpbarron: | working on that | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | :D | [15:14] |
| danielpbarron: | i need lobbes or some other noob to make something for me | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, once i get my us from grenadine ima make some screens and burn them down, should be some lbn. | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | curently completely out ;/ | [15:14] |
| mod6: | sorry I missed out today. how did it go? | [15:24] |
| DianaComan: | hi mod6, somehow it seems only hanbot made it in the end right on time so she got everything at starting price and went on to loot some 0.8 | [15:25] |
| DianaComan: | 0.08 | [15:25] |
| mod6: | ahh, wow. dangit. i hate missing the auctions. | [15:26] |
| mod6: | congrats hanbot! | [15:27] |
| mod6: | DianaComan: i've put it on my cal to get the bot working on wednesday. | [15:31] |
| mod6: | if i don't put it on there, it'll just keep slipping away from me. :] | [15:31] |
| mod6: | i'd like to work on it now, but I gotta finish this updated rotor script. | [15:31] |
| DianaComan: | yay, I still have a chance of keeping to my original plan and release an update today, lol | [15:31] |
| mod6: | nice! | [15:32] |
| mod6: | does it require much testing before release? | [15:32] |
| DianaComan: | mhm, it's more that testing now is a). difficult (as in: takes me ages to rank up in tinkering to test if that works...) b). can't really automate much c). disrupting and therefore basically expensive | [15:34] |
| danielpbarron: | mod6, what is your tinkering rank? | [15:34] |
| mod6: | tinkering... | [15:34] |
| DianaComan: | so it takes a lot although it is not really a lot of testing done | [15:34] |
| mod6: | im gonna go out on a limb and say it might be like 65-70? | [15:35] |
| mod6: | b). can't really automate much << would any unit tests help at all? are End to End (blackbox) tests out of the question? | [15:35] |
| danielpbarron: | do you know what quality you output? | [15:35] |
| DianaComan: | so nice mod6, would you mcguyver some stuff for me when you get in? | [15:36] |
| mod6: | danielpbarron: i used to know... but its been ages since I made my first samovar. so im sure whatever I'd make now would be different. | [15:36] |
| DianaComan: | mhm, it involves the server so not sure what I can do with that; I can of course write unit tests for my code as it is but the main trouble is usually context (as in: if someone mines next to me, will it get confused? why/how?) | [15:37] |
| mod6: | hmm. | [15:38] |
| danielpbarron: | mod6, you want to tinker some stuff for me? I need some low quality improbable oil and slag | [15:38] |
| mod6: | DianaComan: maybe once I get it running, maybe there is some automation I can dreamup for you -- will help to know exactly what it does I suppose. hehe. | [15:38] |
| mod6: | So as far as the help with the crafting... | [15:39] |
| DianaComan: | eh, that's the thing mod6: by the time I end up writing a full testing environment, I'm SURE I'm far better off writing a new minimal client | [15:39] |
| mod6: | If I can do what needs doing in the next 20 minutes, we're good. Because I must get at least 2 hours of coding work in on this script before 5pm CDT. | [15:39] |
| DianaComan: | it's by far time/effort better spent | [15:39] |
| DianaComan: | oh, are you in? | [15:40] |
| DianaComan: | I can get stuff out and it shouldn't take that long really | [15:40] |
| mod6: | not yet. | [15:40] |
| mod6: | ok | [15:40] |
| mod6: | :] | [15:40] |
| DianaComan: | kk, will get it ready | [15:40] |
| mod6: | i'll help | [15:40] |
| mod6: | danielpbarron: get your items ready. | [15:40] |
| DianaComan: | thanks! :) | [15:40] |
| mod6: | i'll give you each 10 minutes. | [15:40] |
| mod6: | that's all i can spare today. | [15:40] |
| mod6: | :/ | [15:40] |
| DianaComan: | I had someone say that they'll come by this evening and ask for an account, but well, I don't see them around so dunno | [15:47] |
| danielpbarron: | shinohai, do you have an account yet? | [15:47] |
| shinohai: | I had one, mp sent me a login but I didn't backup and twas on my stolen lappy | [15:48] |
| danielpbarron: | you still have your key, no? | [15:48] |
| mod6: | hey shinohai | [15:51] |
| shinohai: | yeah I have my key, i never keep gpg keys on computer | [15:56] |
| shinohai: | hai mod6 | [15:56] |
| shinohai: | gonna try to reinstall and try that nvidia driver | [15:56] |
| danielpbarron: | so then i think you can just get the credentials re-sent? | [15:56] |
| danielpbarron: | mod6, i think it finished? | [15:57] |
| mod6: | danielpbarron: yeah, sorry only 3, but just pressed for time today. and i really wanna try to get the rotor script changes complete today. although, don't know if I'll make it. but getting to 80\% would be awesome. | [16:22] |
| DianaComan: | lol Grenadine in the end I got the wrong base q there for the beetles - it seems it's 1088 rather than 664? would you please check it with storage too? | [16:27] |
| DianaComan: | hanbot ^ | [16:27] |
| DianaComan: | uhm, I'm totally confused as to what values the storage/spirover show | [16:28] |
| danielpbarron: | 1088 is correct | [16:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i have noticed a method to the madness of base pricing | [16:30] |
| DianaComan: | thanks danielpbarron | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | it changes at each unit interval | [16:30] |
| DianaComan: | which is? | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | that is, under 100 quality it is 0 | [16:30] |
| hanbot: | DianaComan they're q143 | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | at 100+ it's the "base" | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | and at 200+ it's twice the "base" | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | and so on | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol DianaComan i thought you wrote the book on base values | [16:30] |
| DianaComan: | yes hanbot, but apparently the base value (so at 100q) for beetles is actually 1088 and NOT 664 as I thought, lol | [16:30] |
| DianaComan: | yeah, and precisely this one is wrong, lol | [16:31] |
| DianaComan: | the beetle | [16:31] |
| DianaComan: | oh danielpbarron so you mean it just doesn't care in between? could be, geez | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. it rounds to the nearest 100 | [16:31] |
| danielpbarron: | makes me wonder if the inbetween is actually not relevant | [16:31] |
| danielpbarron: | a scary thought | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, just the evaluator is busted. | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | trivial display issue, was going to be fixed the next day but then chetty went sick. | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | most successful bug of all time, i hate it in utter disproportion to its diminutive size by now | [16:33] |
| hanbot: | DianaComan so trade me for your 14.18k? | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | Magical Dungbeetle (MD) - 1088 | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | eulorum has it at 1088 | [16:36] |
| DianaComan: | where? I looked and it was ? | [16:36] |
| DianaComan: | and in my list for some reason it was 664 | [16:36] |
| DianaComan: | I think it's in too many places, lol | [16:36] |
| DianaComan: | thanks hanbot | [16:37] |
| hanbot: | np | [16:37] |
| DianaComan: | http://www.eulorum.org/Resource_Base_Values | [16:37] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Resource Base Values - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [16:37] |
| DianaComan: | here it's ? | [16:37] |
| DianaComan: | are they somewhere else on eulorum too? | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.eulorum.org/Index_of_Resources | [16:37] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Index of Resources - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm i guess those have to be merged | [16:38] |
| hanbot: | actually a problem is i dunno how to delete pages ;p | [16:38] |
| hanbot: | some of the edits i did rendered pages obsolete | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually wouldn't hurt if the meaning of the numbers were explained on page alos | [16:38] |
| danielpbarron: | DianaComan> where? I looked and it was ? << i think i updated that one just the other night | [16:38] |
| DianaComan: | I think it's better there with the index of resources but it would make sense to add the explanation as to wtf is that | [16:39] |
| danielpbarron: | aha yeah it's in a second place, here -> http://www.eulorum.org/Index_of_Resources#Advanced_Resources | [16:39] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Index of Resources - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [16:39] |
| DianaComan: | actually hanbot why the new page in the first place as it's anyway a copy of that with just the base values added or isnt' it? | [16:39] |
| danielpbarron: | i'd like a page of all base values, not just of harvestables | [16:40] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll even curate it myself, but what is the right way to make this? | [16:40] |
| DianaComan: | it's in my list of things for the bot to spit out | [16:40] |
| hanbot: | DianaComan because the index is a list *with* base values rather than just base values, if that makes sense. danielpbarron nothing keeps nonharvestables from appearing on the index | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have one made on paper right here by the kbd lol | [16:41] |
| DianaComan: | and integrate with the index of bps really, but lately I haven't really had time at all to go through it | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot well it is called "index of resources" | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe the right way to do it is make "index of Tinkering items" "index of McGuyver items" etc ? | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | or maybe just one big page, "Item Index" | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | it could be name, base value, recipe, and staqtically linked so if you click on an item's ingredient ytou jump up or down the page to that one. | [16:42] |
| DianaComan: | lol, that's basically one of the due updates on http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/index.html | [16:43] |
| hanbot: | that sounds like a good idea. | [16:43] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Euloran Cookbook Version 1.1 (at www.dianacoman.com) | [16:43] |
| DianaComan: | meanwhile I've updated at least this one http://www.eulorum.org/Resource_Base_Values | [16:47] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Resource Base Values - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [16:47] |
| danielpbarron: | DianaComan, are you interested in this? -> http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/claims.txt | [16:48] |
| danielpbarron: | each key also comes with an enumeration | [16:48] |
| DianaComan: | uhm danielpbarron it's not really worth the hassle for the tinies given how much you want for them too, honestly | [16:49] |
| danielpbarron: | should be profitable | [16:49] |
| DianaComan: | by such a tiny margin that it's actually NOT if you factor in the time to find the claim | [16:50] |
| danielpbarron: | what is time worth? | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah i think this trading tinies thing would work if there were a cloud of noobs barehand mining AROUND a mining vet | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | who dug out their found tinies. | [16:50] |
| DianaComan: | exactly mircea_popescu | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | need a team of maybe i dunno, half a dozen noobs ? so they keep digging them up at the rate the guy mines them | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | should probably yield a decent satoshi for an evening's work, but we're not there yet. | [16:51] |
| DianaComan: | danielpbarron time is worth what other thing I can do with it and bare in mind that I can leave the bot to mine on its own whatever, but I'll have to manually go after your tinies | [16:51] |
| DianaComan: | of course there's additional trouble there mircea_popescu, as "guarded" | [16:52] |
| danielpbarron: | you can mine at a profit? | [16:52] |
| DianaComan: | other things than wm yes | [16:52] |
| DianaComan: | and even wm as long as I don't mine specifically them so kind of "not intensive" | [16:52] |
| DianaComan: | that's the reason why there were those 18 md earlier for hanbot too | [16:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron i've certainly been profitable over the past 10-20mn mining. | [16:53] |
| danielpbarron: | hm, ok | [16:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | hard to say exactly how much, but if i had to guess something in the range of 10k an hour maybe. | [16:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | course if i spend that hour making something like say noob qual shaped slag into tools, i'm massively profitable, which is how i can afford to pay 3x merchant to people with low q. | [16:55] |
| DianaComan: | btw danielpbarron found anything new? (snakeskins, canines etc) | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i already have snakeskins | [17:01] |
| danielpbarron: | didn't find them gathering though | [17:02] |
| lobbesbot: | News from dianacoman: Foxybots v1.2 <http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/11/16/foxybots-v1-2/> | [18:39] |
| DianaComan: | ha, nice lobbesbot | [18:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice changelist for foxybot | [22:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill be testing this later on | [22:14] |
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