| diana_coman: | morning | [04:34] |
| chetty: | mornings | [05:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i looked at my st batch, you're prolly right re 5093! | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [09:24] |
| diana_coman: | do you have/make any more cft? | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | mnop, outta grass. | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, the game get grass to make grass | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | well ? | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, what do you sell grass or cft for? | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | you got like what, >1k cft ? where's the 5k grass from it!!11 | [09:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | didja use it to mine other shit ? | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | what are you saying? | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | you sold me 600 cft for that matter, not 1k | [09:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | that if you don't maintain grass-positive operations do not expect there to be grass lol. | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | and that was already for the > 3k grass I sold you before | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, I did mine grass mainly with it, but grass never worked well for me and there is no change in there, lol | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | you got 500 of which 250 was from your own and then 660 or somethinf also 250 from your own iirc. point being : | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | really | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | it doesn't matter it wasa "from before", 1\%, 50\%, 100\%. | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | because i can't put into crafting the same grass twice. | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | the k's sold before don't matter, right? | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | all of a sudden | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, they don't, because they went into cft, also sold before eh ? | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | no | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | that's the thing, lol | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | so if you bring 1mn grass, take 300k thread, and then do not bring back 1mn grass, | [09:39] |
| diana_coman: | maybe you sold it, but not to me | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's not going to be 300k thread no matter what, | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | and irrespective of any considerations. | [09:39] |
| diana_coman: | sure, I get that and I am not disputing that | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i didn't keep very close tabs, but i can assure you that grenadine dug up most of the grass ever dug up, like 55k of it. | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | so EVERYONE but her got more cft than they brought grass. | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's a fact. | [09:39] |
| diana_coman: | oh, considering it from the start I surely got more cft and I brought grass, fully agree on that | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, the chain of history may or may not be reconstructed, but in any case it doesn't so much matter. | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | grass' been on alert for weeks now, and what that means is, broadly, that if you use it to dig other things you draw down the supply. | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I don't get now: what is this about exactly? | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | that cft takes grass to make! | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | so bringeth grasses to me! | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | I did not use it to dig up other things, that was entirely your assumption there | [09:41] |
| diana_coman: | all I said was that mining grass is (and has always been) in the negative for me | [09:41] |
| diana_coman: | just that | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i asked, yo. | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | <mircea_popescu> didja use it to mine other shit ? | [09:41] |
| chetty: | I got some grass, couple hundred I think | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice. you need cft chetty ? | [09:43] |
| diana_coman: | well, I have about 800 grass and will get some out of some ordinaries too, but the thing is that basically I am blocked for more than half the time waiting for cft anyway | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | but whatever | [09:47] |
| chetty: | well diana_coman I can make cft, but doubt you would like the q | [09:48] |
| diana_coman: | yes chetty, I can make cft too and I still don't like the quality | [09:48] |
| diana_coman: | that's the trouble | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman if you used 1k+ cft in one day, 800 grass isn't helping you much is it. | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | essentially if I make it myself or get it lower quality | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | I am basically getting even less return probably | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | as in even less grass out of it | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | so even worse | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | what qual grass you dig up ? | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | 164 or there | [09:49] |
| chetty: | so not long ago we wanting more lower players, now we wantmore higher? | [09:50] |
| diana_coman: | I still want more lower players, chetty | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so you actually took 1160 q203 thread, went mining and got 800 q 164 grass back ? | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | now that sucks. | [09:50] |
| diana_coman: | they might actually get more grass out of it | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | no mircea_popescu it's not that bad (or even worse, depending on how you put it): since I was stuck for quite a while on this, I did make about 300 cft of my own too and use it to get at least the data on how it fares compared to higher q | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, unsurprisingly, not recommended | [09:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok so then you still got the thread i sold you ? | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | might I add that my cft is not *that* bad (about 155 or a bit higher iirc) | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | 1. used up all the thread and dug up about 2k of grass 2. made 300 cft out of 1k grass 3. dug up about 500 grass | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's pretty bad still. | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | yes, of course | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | ;;calc 2000 * 1.64 / (1160*2.03*3) | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | meh | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | < 50\% ffs. | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is a large part of our problem really. in fact by far the largest : if grass mining is < 100\% cft stores draw down. | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | well, if you compute it globally | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | you'd have to add in daniel's hit | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i suspect a large part of WHY grass mining is < 100\% is because of remarkable and above finds which we store rather than dig | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | and then it prolly gets up | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | exactly. but daniel wait a second | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | NO. you don't add that in. because thread is not used there. | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | uhm? | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | did he get it out of a tiny? | [09:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | you use 0 thread to find | [09:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | a sizable or anything. | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | I don't mean that, no | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | I meant the 22k of grass he got out of a small or smth | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | and dunno, maybe it would make more sense for me to just sell *all* the claims, small and above, but who wants to build them ? | [09:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | he did ? | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | I don't really mind either way, as I wouldn't mine grass if it weren't needed | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | yes, he did | [09:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i suspect that may not be the case for strict grass counts (not for value per se) because well, you get lower q | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | or so he said | [09:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron you got 20k grass yo ? | [09:58] |
| diana_coman: | that supposition should really be tested sometime as I start doubting it | [09:58] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, whenever you are in, would you like to make a test? I give you some claims and stuff and you mine them so that we can compare your yield with mine ? | [09:58] |
| diana_coman: | or hanbot? ^ | [09:58] |
| diana_coman: | or mod6, jurov | [09:59] |
| diana_coman: | and btw, fwiw re that theory of yours, daniel gets higher q on grass than me so by your theory he should get less than me <- doesn't seem to be the case, lol | [10:00] |
| chetty: | I always get 1 on tiny and I havent had a small in along time but back when I did it was 1or2, but my qual stinks | [10:00] |
| diana_coman: | got 148 out of an ordianry.... | [10:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | chetty o you should do that. what q grass do you mine, under 100 ? | [10:00] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, it doesn't matter what quality you get | [10:00] |
| diana_coman: | and I'll give you the claims with all | [10:00] |
| diana_coman: | my idea is to test simply on a set of my claims (all of them): like I give you 20 small claims and you mine them, we make total; then I mine 20 small claims of mine too and we compare output or something like that | [10:01] |
| diana_coman: | same thread quality too | [10:01] |
| diana_coman: | well, assuming we have thread for that kind of experiment, lol | [10:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ^ good idea. | [10:02] |
| chetty: | uh, ok, let me put some stuff in storage and I will mine some for ya | [10:02] |
| chetty: | I have 54 threads I can contribute | [10:02] |
| diana_coman: | what q? | [10:02] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu I have 883 grass, would you make some cft out of it for the above exp? | [10:04] |
| chetty: | 42 (prophectic) | [10:04] |
| diana_coman: | and even better chetty, I just built one ordinary and got the grand total of 148 | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | I have another ordinary | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | I'll give it to you to build | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | I am really curious what you get out of it | [10:05] |
| chetty: | wow what does that take? | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | will give you everything for it too, of course | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | no worries, I'll give you all the stuff | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | *just* some lotus harlots, slithy tove, 14 eps and all that jazz | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | but hey, it's all positive in about 1million years, lol | [10:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman aite. i usually prefer to you know, put larger batches and forget it, but for experiument who can say no. | [10:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | firing it up. | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | I know, I wouldn't have asked if not the exp thing, thank you | [10:06] |
| chetty: | ok I am all set, not carrying extra grass or anything, just the threads and som little bits | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | 1 sec to give mp the grass | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | you can live the threads too | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | we need high q ones | [10:08] |
| chetty: | ok | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | will go now for the ordinary only | [10:09] |
| diana_coman: | 1 sec | [10:09] |
| diana_coman: | while mp makes the thread | [10:09] |
| chetty: | hmm I suspect I should have gotten your pilot program :P | [10:10] |
| chetty: | ftr my building rank is 16 | [10:11] |
| diana_coman: | oh, no worries, will go with you then | [10:11] |
| chetty: | oops wait a sec srry | [10:12] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | ah | [10:13] |
| chetty: | I had a snail .. | [10:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | apparently danielpbarron took a bite out of crafting too. making q 201 now | [10:14] |
| diana_coman: | oh, use those as I got everything as high q as I can | [10:14] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I think he has been crafting pretty much all the time with short breaks for mining grass | [10:14] |
| chetty: | yeah thats why I cancled, so I could store the snail :) | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | though he is surely on crafting mainly | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | from what he said earlier, I am quite a bit ahead on building+gathering still | [10:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i guess ima go try dig up some grass myself after this. | [10:19] |
| diana_coman: | I'll prolly get all the data together and calculate it exactly, though I did not log the quality of thread so it will be approximate anyway | [10:21] |
| diana_coman: | I started digging up some claims now and will not mine the small ones | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | while chetty is building the ordinary | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | if I get enough of them, you can build some too and then we have 3 sets of different q to compare | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | and now I got 59 grass out of ..uhm, 3 tinies? | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | me you mean ? | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | yes, if you want to | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. i'll dig up a bunch of what, ordinaries ? smalls ? | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | smalls prolly, I am out of ordinaries for now | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I got 1 ord | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | so you can dig one of that too, lol | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | let me know when you are done with the cft | [10:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's literally 2k seconds. has it been that long ? | [10:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | mebbe in 10 minutes or so. | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | I did not check/keep track, sorry, but no hurry, the more smalls I dig, the more for the exp anyway | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | so chetty got 595 grass at q55 | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | from the ordinary | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | I got earlier 148 at q164 or there | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | mhm | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha. | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | and the bundles were quite the same as I gave here everything as I did mine | [10:30] |
| chetty: | I had a bundle q of 136 | [10:31] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, there are a few things that drag it down | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | such as the st | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | which is about 80q | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | yuck | [10:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | meh, so i started some ibs. | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | I was away for about 8 minutes, true | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I have only about 20 smalls for now, so will dig some more | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | when do you finish the ibs round? | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu? ^ | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh! horribly chosen 8 minutes. anyway, want this cft ? | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | yes, of course | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok trade me. i won't be able to move till it's done, be maybe 3 hours or so. | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | oh, ok, will be in town in 2 min | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | so far I am basically better off building only tiny, lol | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | on this new run | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | talking about grinding | [10:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | tinies are great tho | [10:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | they add to the grass engine without using any, see ? | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | yes, they are great for almost everyone else except me mining them | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | not that it surprises me | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can't possibly make a loss on tinies ? | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | on money terms no or highly unlikely, but why the hell to mine tinies of grass when in the same time I would clearly make more money mining tinies of eps or wm or whatever rare you name | [11:01] |
| diana_coman: | moss for that matter | [11:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, do you find them as frequently ? | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i quess that's not so much a consideration | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | quite | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | and oh, do you mean danielpbarron overtook you in crafting? o.O | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | but neah, bullshit | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | he makes 162q | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | (peeked at his table, lol) | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | overtake me ? no ? | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | wut ? | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | you said earlier that he was making quality 201? | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t14:14:07 | [11:07] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2015-08-29 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, i said i was making q 201 | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | used to be 203 | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I got confused then, my bad | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | he makes 162 and I make (or made) some 155+ | [11:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [11:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | tbh, thinking about it, it's prolly MY OWN crafting that sunk me | [11:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | because i made lots and lots of hoes | [11:13] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, not sure I follow: why would your own crafting sunk you? I gather you still made those with high q ingredients so you got considerable exp? | [11:14] |
| diana_coman: | or is it as they take a lot of time to make? | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | well cuz i am shittier in mcguyver, they're only like 195 | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | then again that doesn't make so much sense either | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, can't really see how would that be other than perhaps as in less exp/unit of time than what daniel (or me perhaps though I haven't been crafting much lately) got | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | I think it's most just that the gap got smaller | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | well the thing is, when grenadine hit those major finds my quality shot up. | [11:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | and since iirc the .17 btc i found on tools is the largest to date, | [11:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | it may account for the move | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, now that I can't follow at all; earlier daniel said that his quality went down when he hit the major grass find | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | oh, that one | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | if indeed the quality goes down after major finds, I guess that could be indeed, not as much the crafting, as that major loot | [11:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | probably daniel's went down like did mine because we were doing over 100 q | [11:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | whereas grenadine was doing under 100 | [11:20] |
| diana_coman: | in approx 1h, I got about 200 grass from tiny claims only, so would need about 5 hrs to get..1k of grass aka 330 cft that would be only slightly more than would go into the 40 small claims found in this 1 hr, lol | [12:05] |
| diana_coman: | anyone wants to buy small grass claims? | [12:06] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, so now it says "extraordinary stone adze bundle" - wonder what is so extraordinary about it | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | wonders if he should sell 10k q345 ibs recipes or keep em | [12:20] |
| diana_coman: | I'll be back for the experiment in about 2.5 hours; by that time all the tinies should be gone too, so that it's not such a mess to get to the small claims | [12:22] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> diana_coman if you used 1k+ cft in one day << sounds about right :D | [12:29] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect I would use more than that now really, see above, danielpbarron | [12:30] |
| diana_coman: | (at least if I explore for grass) | [12:31] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> anyone wants to buy small grass claims? << yes but here's what you need to do: mine in rows and call me over when you have just finished | [12:37] |
| danielpbarron: | by that time all the tinies should be gone too << do NOT lock smalls for the love of all other players please do not lock smalls! | [12:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [12:39] |
| danielpbarron: | someone spammed up my grass hill with small sticks everywhere / very annoying | [12:39] |
| danielpbarron: | i am not interested in buying locked smalls; only unlocked freshly gathered smalls | [12:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | foresees his foresight is abundantly correct, and the playerbase will be absolutely thrilled to defend its notions of "my grass hill" and so forth with sword in hand | [12:40] |
| diana_coman: | lol danielpbarron I did lock those smalls because I want to make the exp hence I need to make sure they are still there | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | but I will unlock and use them, of course, lol | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, if you want to buy smalls, I'm happy to sell them on the spot | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | lol @ my grass hill, indeed | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | mostly because THATS MY GRASS HILL DAMNIT | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | he he, at least until there is fighting, there can then be ...blackmail? I'll SPAM your grass hill if you don't x and y :))) | [12:45] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i had that thought | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | ponders a "spam" mode for the bot :))))) | [12:46] |
| danielpbarron: | "is someone doing this to mess with me?" | [12:46] |
| danielpbarron: | i think i would be ok with you dedicating your efforts to spam | [12:46] |
| danielpbarron: | because that would mean you are forgoing building exp | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha, no, why? | [12:47] |
| diana_coman: | I lock only tinies for instance | [12:47] |
| diana_coman: | still get the exp for the rest | [12:47] |
| danielpbarron: | narrows his eyes | [12:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [12:47] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [12:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | clearly land ownership gotta get added soonish | [12:47] |
| diana_coman: | there is claim ownership, what's wrong with that? | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | daniel's problem is mainly an artefact of how his macro works | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | my bot couldn't care less if there are 100 claims on the *very spot* on which it got a new one for that matter | [12:49] |
| danielpbarron: | it doesn't interfere with my macro | [12:50] |
| diana_coman: | so then what's the problem? | [12:50] |
| danielpbarron: | although i suppose it could | [12:50] |
| danielpbarron: | well it's sorta my macro, in that it dosen't mine smalls and i have to go back through picking them out | [12:50] |
| diana_coman: | so then what, "my grass hill has been defaced" or what? lol | [12:50] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so yes | [12:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i put the key on my sticks so it's still easy to find the right ones | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so not *that* bad really | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | more a matter of *my* hill then | [12:51] |
| danielpbarron: | but it could be bad i guess, if you were to intentionally cover the hill in locked tinies | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha, lol | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | I guess so | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | soo which one of you wants 7k ibs ~200 q ? | [14:42] |
| chetty: | 7k of em eh? that would be a busy miner | [14:44] |
| danielpbarron: | i do | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd have loved to sell them packaged with some thread, but apparently grass is a foregone conclusion. | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, you selling the bottles back ? | [14:48] |
| danielpbarron: | hadn't planned on it | [14:48] |
| danielpbarron: | 5 million for the lot? | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | I'm back for the build exp, I have 1 ord if you want to build it, mircea_popescu and 20 small if you want to build them, chetty? | [14:59] |
| diana_coman: | I'd sell back the ltf mircea_popescu if you are still selling those ibs | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | but of course it will take some time until I get all that cft too | [15:01] |
| danielpbarron: | gernika> mircea_popescu can I snag a eulora account? | [15:06] |
| danielpbarron: | hooray! | [15:06] |
| phf: | ^ successful eulora build on another person's machine | [15:07] |
| phf: | *mac build | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | wow, that's great, phf | [15:11] |
| phf: | also for the curious the build is done with the recent clang, rather then gcc-4.2 | [15:11] |
| phf: | i've used autogen.sh from eulora to regenerate configure etc. with clang relevant modifications, it's not fully portable yet, but i think with few modifications patches can just be integrated back into our cs/eulora code | [15:13] |
| chetty: | very cool phf, ty | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, are you still available to mine some small claims? | [15:43] |
| ben_vulpes: | hey phf where does eulora keep its configs on os x? | [16:35] |
| phf: | application support? | [16:37] |
| phf: | or ~/.eulora | [16:38] |
| ben_vulpes: | looks like application support | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman ok, youy aroyund ? | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | gernika yeah | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | yes, will get back to village then | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | lemme make his acct, 5 mins | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [16:44] |
| ben_vulpes: | phf: seems to work even | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | oh and gernika when you get your account maybe you want to build some claims too? | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | gernika http://dpaste.com/1YWXRH5 | [16:47] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 1YWXRH5 (at dpaste.com) | [16:47] |
| gernika: | diana_coman perhaps - my screen time is limited atm - recovering from an eye operation | [16:49] |
| gernika: | I'm in! | [16:56] |
| diana_coman: | no worries gernika, it's mainly if you want something to do quickly and get free exp basically | [16:56] |
| danielpbarron: | figure out how to bot and then leave your character doing stuff all day | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | it's like the early days of bitcoin mining | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | can be done with your laptop | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | whatever you make, it will sell | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't know why more people aren't doing this | [17:00] |
| gernika: | will do | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | so danielpbarron your offer's not bad, but ideally i would want a deal whereby i get either IO or LTF back for em | [17:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | gernika meet me in town, ima give you some starter items | [17:40] |
| jurov: | hanbot and daniel are going to drain me of coppers | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw, you got a working tiny miner ? | [17:47] |
| jurov: | Grundin needs resupply | [17:47] |
| diana_coman: | and small, yeah | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov o srsly ? | [17:48] |
| diana_coman: | so what of it? | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman it occurs to me the best use for my char is prolly mining. since high q | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, you releasing it ? | [17:48] |
| diana_coman: | it explores in patterns (linear or radial so far), it builds whatever it can and leaves the key in the claim after it's done | [17:48] |
| diana_coman: | and it locks whatever it can't build | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | sounds pretty good. how do i define its area and spacings for linear ? | [17:49] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, you get high q for basic, not for rare | [17:49] |
| diana_coman: | but dunno | [17:49] |
| diana_coman: | it's just starting from the point you are in and you give it the number of steps | [17:49] |
| diana_coman: | as in explore linear 10 | [17:49] |
| diana_coman: | so it goes 10 steps in that direction and then back and again | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it changes tools too ? | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | it actually tries to train too, but that is such as mess | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it goes train ? :D | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | it tries to... | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | but what can I say | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. what makes it fail ? | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | that's the thing why I wouldn't really say it's ready for release | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | well, if I set it to actually walk to the merchant thing, it can get stuck/fall off a cliff whatever | [17:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah but... for instance right now im not doing anything cuz out of craftables. | [17:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | if i could dig up grass it'd ease the grass issue | [17:51] |
| diana_coman: | how is that out of craft tables? | [17:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | craftables! not craft tables. | [17:51] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I keep making things easier for others, lol | [17:52] |
| diana_coman: | ah | [17:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | looks through his lists | [17:52] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, you have nothing to craft? want to make me thread? 3k grass at 284 quality for 1k threads at ~200q ? | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | ahahahaha, love this | [17:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao | [17:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | maffs | [17:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | i gotta save that fucking formula somewhere proeminent | [17:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | 955 danielpbarron | [17:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i think i make them 202 | [17:55] |
| danielpbarron: | 3k grass for 955 thread? | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | and tbh about the training thing with the bot: there are some funny instances when it fails and I don't know why (it's rather difficult to test in the first place) | [17:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | + some corner cases, such as if you happen to rank in more than 1 skill at a time I suppose | [17:56] |
| danielpbarron: | ok deal | [17:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | meet me in game! | [17:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o btw, care to make it 30k ? | [17:57] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [17:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh today was just my crafting day | [18:44] |
| diana_coman: | congrats | [18:44] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron I have 2 more ordinaries for grass, do you want them? | [18:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | nono sell them to me | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | 50 grass guartanteed! | [18:47] |
| diana_coman: | he pays 10k and tbh atm I'll sell them instead for that value in cft | [18:48] |
| diana_coman: | want them? | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah im knee deep in crafting, was just beinf funny | [18:48] |
| diana_coman: | thought so | [18:48] |
| diana_coman: | updated shop with current stock, let me know if there is something specific you want more of (rare items only): http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/foxystore.html | [19:08] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Foxy's Useful Items (at www.dianacoman.com) | [19:08] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, mircea_popescu and anyone interested ^ | [19:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mostly want basics tbh | [19:30] |
| gernika: | mircea_popescu how do I find town? | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | up on a hill slightly, where a coupla animated fruitboxes and a few people are. | [19:36] |
| gernika: | found it | [19:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok brt | [19:42] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> danielpbarron I have 2 more ordinaries for grass, do you want them? << yes | [22:13] |
| lobbes: | takes his first steps on Eulorian soil | [22:35] |
| danielpbarron: | lobbes, you are Geater? | [23:13] |
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