| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu i mean it's half a datapoint, what about "used 70k worth of tool decay and 10k worth of thread/bits to dig up 5 md thus therefore per md value is like 1600" << yeah, crude and incomplete for sure, I think I mentioned that, lol | [02:53] |
| diana_coman: | if you want to consider the thread/bits too, then I'd have to consider the exp too and I have no idea how that goes in at all | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | so what I did was to leave the thread/bits and exp for now for starters, and otherwise just take tool worth/ number of md found | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | as in 26 hoes from the merchant, considered at 10k worth (they were 12k, but they are still worth 2k atm when worn-out) | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | so 260k worth of tools to dig up 33 beetles | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | that's about 8k per beetle | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, not sure whether that would change much for beetles and wm with more data, but for almost all others it seems to be getting in fact better | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | will crunch the numbers again tomorrow probably | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu if i go by my run so far, the value of q100 sb should be something like << how long was that run? | [03:01] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu lol @diana's page she's basicaly turning into a mining claim merchant :D << a miner whether I want it or not, I think I said it already, lol | [03:02] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu <diana_coman> not worth the money << i bought like i dunno, ~3k of em lol << yeah, me too | [03:03] |
| diana_coman: | but I start thinking it was a poor decision | [03:03] |
| diana_coman: | well, they might be worth for making imps or toolkits | [03:03] |
| diana_coman: | sure | [03:03] |
| diana_coman: | atm they seem ok for exploring around too | [03:03] |
| diana_coman: | but NOT for md and wm as far as I can tell | [03:03] |
| chetty: | morning | [04:44] |
| diana_coman: | a list of ingredients needed for various ordinary claims, for anyone interested (I linked it from the wiki too): http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/MiningRecipes.txt | [08:57] |
| chetty: | nice diana_coman , thank you | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | how's it going on the server side, chetty? | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | after my mini-experiences with the client I really feel for you if the server is similar as code | [09:53] |
| chetty: | yup its very similar | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | ouch | [09:54] |
| danielpbarron: | so 260k worth of tools to dig up 33 beetles << and rank up a bunch | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron: yes, but ranking up the same in the same time while exploring for wpl for instance is by far better | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | exploring exp has nothing to do with whether you find it or not, hence better to do it on something you find | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | that's really the reason why I preferred to leave out the exp all together and kind of consider for now that the thread+bits of nothing pay for the exp | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | so left those out too | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | and another data point: 10 hoes from merchant, hence 10*10k=100k for 29WM -> 3500 per WM | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu re data points ^ | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, for anyone interested in the rare items: I'll auction them on Sunday starting at 25\% on top of merchant's price, so that's the chance of getting them cheaper | [11:21] |
| diana_coman: | will prolly sell batches of 20 or similar | [11:21] |
| diana_coman: | and a tiny data appetiser for the hungry and the desperate: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/14/a-data-diet-of-wooly-mushrooms-and-elusive-purple-snails/ | [12:55] |
| lobbesbot: | A Data Diet of Wooly Mushrooms and Elusive Purple Snails in Ossasepia (at www.dianacoman.com) | [12:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw, 10 sets of smaovars ready in about an hour for you. | [13:02] |
| diana_coman: | yay, will be back in game in about 2 hrs, hope that's fine | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | mwahahahah | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | will give a party to my bot | [13:17] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [13:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [13:20] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu any high-quality thread for sale? | [13:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | for grass of equal value! | [13:55] |
| diana_coman: | lol, but you don't want me to extract it, or do you? | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | well someone's gotta. but i take smalls, too :D | [13:58] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, you will trade your high quality thread for high quality grass? | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [14:35] |
| danielpbarron: | 400 thread for 1k grass? | [14:40] |
| danielpbarron: | msg me in game if so | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu that sounds good to me, I'll leave then the bot overnight to get grass as that should also give me a good set of data on grass stats | [14:46] |
| diana_coman: | going back to the grass roots as it were or something, lol | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | hehehe | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron more like 300. | [14:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i'd rather make thread myself than trade 3 grass for even 1 thread, considering that my grass gives a very decent overcraft, as well as practice points in both tinkering and sortage | [15:25] |
| danielpbarron: | although i would like your higher quality thread, and would probably be inclined to buy yours in addition to making my own | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah the thing is im atm short in the sense of, running out. gotta get it going + count somehow. | [15:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly a great way fore a noob to make money btw, if his grass is q 50 i pay like 175! that's like > 3x what merchant pays. | [15:27] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i will also buy grass | [16:16] |
| danielpbarron: | i should put up a gribble ad | [16:16] |
| danielpbarron: | "Come make a eulora account and gather grass for me!" | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron would you buy grass at 160q? | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | I should have a big stash by tomorrow the latest, as I'll go on a grass run | [16:21] |
| Birdman: | I would be interested in that, if no one is already selling course threads | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | soo... slow-aucitoning 11 chetty sticks, functional | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | 20.85k or so iirc. | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | lemme know what everyone wants to pay! danielpbarron diana_coman Birdman and who else wanted. | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | mod6 maybe | [17:02] |
| Birdman: | 20.85k/ea? | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's their durability | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc needs 20.2k to shoot. | [17:03] |
| Birdman: | after it goes under 20k do they stop working? | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | they get a one shot, worth 20k basically. | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | like you know how a normal tool decays x each time ? | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | these decay 20k | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | oh wow | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | out of my league | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | atm | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu any starting price? | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | so I don't start searching the logs now, lol | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | 230k i guess, | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | since it's what electron pays | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | oh, wow, defo worth more than what electron pays though | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | will get all of them at 250k each | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd expect. | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | at. 250k. each ? | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | 230k the lot of them? you got me confused, lol | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes for the lot. | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | lol, so then 250k | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | k. | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | I did pay for the first one 1 mil or so, geez | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | was it an auction ? | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | no | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | epic. | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | it was the very first stick though | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, it makes a good story for grandkids. | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | prolly should have kept it as a reminder NEVER to buy the first one made or something | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh. you never know. | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu I have 6 pps - do you want them? | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | uyp | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | you in game now ? | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | brt | [17:21] |
| chetty: | someone has stuck bot? | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got a macro making slag. that ? | [17:51] |
| chetty: | no I dont think its you, could be someone with a really bad connection | [17:52] |
| diana_coman: | my bot is mining happily | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | not stuck here | [17:53] |
| mod6: | < mircea_popescu> mod6 maybe << Thanks for the offer! Looks like diana_coman scooped 'em up. | [18:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, it's an auction. | [18:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | she bid 250k, or 108\% whatevs | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | feel free to top it mod6 if you want them | [18:02] |
| mod6: | That beats me out. I've got 2 in-stock as-is. Don't have much time to play atm anyway. | [18:02] |
| jurov: | btw i have 500 cft of q = 90 to use for mining | [18:03] |
| jurov: | would like to exchange for yet higher q | [18:03] |
| jurov: | (or it won't matter?) | [18:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd buy it. | [18:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't think iu have enough left to exchange it, but yes it matters. at least for xp, prolly for finds. | [18:04] |
| danielpbarron: | crashed | [18:12] |
| jurov: | down, prolly overgrazed | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha, overgrazed indeed | [18:12] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman> I would be interested in that, if no one is already selling course threads << don't make your own thread.. | [18:12] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> lemme know what everyone wants to pay! danielpbarron diana_coman Birdman and who else wanted. << i'll pay 35k each | [18:13] |
| diana_coman: | 400k for the lot of 11 | [18:14] |
| danielpbarron: | 450k | [18:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | 450 heard. | [18:15] |
| diana_coman: | btw danielpbarron, mircea_popescu declined interest in the ordinary grass claims so they are yours at 10k each if you want them, let me know | [18:16] |
| danielpbarron: | deal | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | ok, I'll get back to village and get them out | [18:16] |
| danielpbarron: | also all other basic harvestables? | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | 475k | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | nope | [18:16] |
| danielpbarron: | 500k | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | those go on auction | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, when the server gets back up, of course, lol | [18:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a very very special package to auction on sunday :D | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | anything from the altar? | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | da fuck were you doing jurov | [18:17] |
| danielpbarron: | says nothing else | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [18:18] |
| jurov: | O.o | [18:18] |
| jurov: | botmining, what else | [18:18] |
| diana_coman: | 525k | [18:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh auctionign sticks was a good idea o.O | [18:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | im sorry i used any b4. | [18:19] |
| jurov: | i knew server likes inventory full of randomly decaying keys | [18:19] |
| danielpbarron: | 550k | [18:19] |
| diana_coman: | lol, they are yours daniel | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i promise never to do it again! | [18:19] |
| diana_coman: | :))) | [18:19] |
| jurov: | gotta auction my grass too | [18:20] |
| diana_coman: | I hope you get at least some slithy toves with them, danielpbarron | [18:20] |
| diana_coman: | and crumbly rock | [18:20] |
| danielpbarron: | cr would be nice | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | go for it jurov. | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | what, st is not nice? lol | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | poor st | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | not a basic harvestable | [18:21] |
| jurov: | will mine more | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | back | [18:23] |
| diana_coman: | is wwb basic? | [18:23] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron coming in for your stix. | [18:23] |
| lobbesbot: | New post: http://trilema.com/category/smg/feed/ Sunday, August 16th event : Another auction! <http://trilema.com/2015/sunday-august-16th-event-another-auction/> | [18:35] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow, a truly divine and totally expensive new altar, lol | [18:38] |
| diana_coman: | or rather: set | [18:38] |
| Birdman: | looks like danielpbarron will have to pay a pretty penny to keep his monopoly on the sacrifice skill | [18:47] |
| jurov: | um, storage is now ratelimited too? | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | those berries etc should be pretty fun to use. | [18:53] |
| Birdman: | the overcraft will be crazy | [19:06] |
| Birdman: | i might want to get in on this auction myself | [19:06] |
| Birdman: | down | [19:58] |
| Birdman: | or crashed | [19:58] |
| Birdman: | oh maybe not, mine was just buggin | [19:58] |
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