| jurov: | morning, any news? | [07:55] |
| chetty: | I hesitate to say, I keep being wrong :P | [08:38] |
| jurov: | heh | [09:06] |
| jurov: | programmers are wrong 99\% of the time | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | sooo... eulora server back up. trilema announcement coming too. | [14:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | also jurov i stole your bandar toolkit bundle as it was just sitting around there. ima pass it back to you next we meet. | [14:36] |
| jurov: | oh, so i succeeded to craft it after all? (^ ^) | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | well no, you got teh bundle. you can run the craft once you get it | [14:56] |
| jurov: | chetty so i get to keep the loot? thanks! | [15:16] |
| chetty: | well if MP didnt delete it ya | [15:16] |
| chetty: | hopefully this mess is ironed out, but this dang code is now over patched, hope I get some clear time to just clean tings up | [15:17] |
| jurov: | i'd script the business logic in some saner language | [15:18] |
| chetty: | lo well someday | [15:18] |
| jurov: | everyone: stuff is lying aronud, for whoever picks it up first (i'm keeping it there, content with my "loot") | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | haha what is laying around ? | [15:30] |
| jurov: | boulders | [15:31] |
| jurov: | hi diana_coman, we're online! | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | hi jurov, I just saw that, yay :) | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | an seg fault on the client again, damn | [15:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | boulders can be hard to carry lol | [15:32] |
| jurov: | twas helluva segfault | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | did the server die ? | [15:34] |
| chetty: | if the client keeps segfaulting you can try delete of user files the hidden .Eulora stuff | [15:35] |
| chetty: | no | [15:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | ^ | [15:35] |
| jurov: | do you plan client update soon? i want to try crashfix from planeshift and if ok, rerelease it | [15:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | this might be an idea. | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | what a no-claim landscape, lol | [15:38] |
| chetty: | sounds good, I dont expect to change clientmuch for a while, and then pretty much art files which shouldnt be an issue | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | old claims finally died yeah | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | and now they get scavenged | [15:41] |
| chetty: | there is one fix on the camera location that should go in jurov so if you put something out let meknow and we can include that | [15:41] |
| jurov: | or you can just push it to github | [15:41] |
| diana_coman: | lol, now I get what jurov was saying re looting: the craft-table loots itself! | [15:43] |
| jurov: | lol still? | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | I made some slag and got a coarse thread recipe out of the blue, lol | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep self-looting. | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | those keys I have now with "opens(null)" - I guess they are from claims that were wiped, right? | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | drop them anywhere they'll go away | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha, how did you get to hang those keys up in the air, jurov? | [16:17] |
| jurov: | put them on your head | [16:17] |
| jurov: | and stacked | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao | [16:17] |
| jurov: | looks like all were wiped, i stopped checking | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | and the eulorians built their babel tower out of useless keys.... | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | I can see them hanging up there | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | I look up and I see...keys! | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [16:18] |
| jurov: | see daniel over there? | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:19] |
| jurov: | does not seem like exploring got harder | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I got 2 tiny boulder claims and harvested 1 boulder from each | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | then 1 small | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | and harvested... | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | 1 boulder from it | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | geee | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | small = more work for same thing ? | [16:23] |
| jurov: | dunno if you were here when i explained | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | probably not, sorry, are there any logs? | [16:23] |
| jurov: | on in 10-20 you'll get windfall | [16:23] |
| jurov: | *one in | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman it varies. | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | were there any adjustments made to quality/crafting? as it seems to have gone down and I'm not sure whether there is something strange (i.e. some random results) about it | [16:26] |
| jurov: | are the enumerations bound to specific marker? or something like that? | [16:30] |
| jurov: | i found several markers, now revisiting them and it refuses to make me boulder | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | they are not jurov | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | but if marker is used, it's used. | [16:31] |
| jurov: | no it's defo not used and the message is i don't have the right items | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well... who knows these things :) | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov do you ? | [16:32] |
| jurov: | tiny boulder ennumeration on the brain, and a bit o' nothing in the marker | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | lol @ who knows | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | bizarre | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | don't throw the things out, so you can reproduce it for chetty when she's back | [16:33] |
| jurov: | chetty can you pls check what i'm doing now? | [16:33] |
| jurov: | oh ok | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | and for the variation...so far I haven't seen any: 4 small claims, all consistently gave 1 boulder each :p | [16:33] |
| jurov: | i said 10-20 | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | ah, I missed that jurov, sorry | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i must say im thoroughly enjoying this | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i will further say i consider this loot system to be the smartest thing i ever came up with. | [16:34] |
| jurov: | well after i put things out and back, now it works, werd. | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [16:35] |
| chetty: | yeah it can get confused if you lose the target or something like that in the middle | [16:36] |
| chetty: | the recipes are not bound to specific markers just the type has to match | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, how come I got a key on which it said it's crafted by Grundin? | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | whence you got it ? | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | I just explored and got a tiny boulder enumeration and apparently I got 2 keys | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | one of them this one | [17:07] |
| jurov: | was it near craft table? | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | I did not pick up anything | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | odd | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | I can't be sure I actually got this key right now, as I had a whole set of keys anyways - hard to keep track of new ones really | [17:08] |
| jurov: | guess client needs full logging of all activities, so that this can be traced | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | so ditch old ones | [17:09] |
| jurov: | and what is the key's position? | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, they were not old: they were from small new enumerations and I was just getting full of them before heading to make the shitty bundles | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | 315.34 47.86 82.98 jurov | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | nothing to do with where I am, as a matter of fact | [17:10] |
| jurov: | well.. you may check what's on that pos | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | eeeek | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | saw a mouse ? | [17:11] |
| jurov: | or dead mollusc? | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | no, saw jurov's idea to go and check a specific pos :p | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | gotta write another diary entry I guess: 1001 ways to cook up a boulder | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, so the item made on the craft-table is reported 74 quality but then it gets put in the pile with lower quality and so it gets downgraded? | [17:34] |
| diana_coman: | (I even took the items out 1 by 1 and they were all the lower quality now) | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | they get average out | [17:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you stack two items | [17:36] |
| chetty: | quality will vary, depending on a lot of factors ... | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | but I did not stack! | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | it stack them whether I wanted it or not | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | and still, if you separate them afterwards it should un-average, no? | [17:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | in any case: I did not stack them | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | I did not intend to stack them I mean | [17:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah well. | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | it decided they should be stacked regardless | [17:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you click pickup all it autoputs it in your stack | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, the second time around I took it and gingerly put it on another slot - to no avail | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | hard to keep track :) | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | this will be a specioal skillset | [17:38] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: you must put the lowq stuff to storage | [17:40] |
| diana_coman: | I did now... | [17:40] |
| jurov: | but not sure if it averages with whatever is already there | [17:41] |
| diana_coman: | did not know that everything was the proverbial wine/mud :p | [17:41] |
| jurov: | it change only some 2 weeks ago | [17:41] |
| diana_coman: | with the small claims thing it simply seems to not be worth it | [17:42] |
| diana_coman: | got a small claim? stuck it in storage and forget about it | [17:42] |
| diana_coman: | got a tiny one? explore it | [17:42] |
| diana_coman: | much easier, same result | [17:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | nobody can tell you how to play your own game eh :) | [17:43] |
| diana_coman: | sure | [17:44] |
| jurov: | damn the bought bandar toolkit isn't even suitable for makign a straw hat | [17:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i made my own toolkit and it says i don't have the right tool to make indistinct bark shavings | [17:52] |
| danielpbarron: | i have the toolkit, the head-chair, and the bundle | [17:52] |
| jurov: | yes, looks like no one can do it right, must have it blessed | [17:52] |
| jurov: | the toolkit needs higher quality to make stuff | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | help chetty | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | I messed it up entirely it seems, lol | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | I made a craft-table | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | and it got completely bonkers | [17:53] |
| danielpbarron: | how can i make it higher quality? i made this one myself | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | first all the items from my inventory disappeared | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | then (after another click) I got some showing in the craft-table, some in my inventory | [17:54] |
| jurov: | mp will bless it on the event, if you present it to him,. dunno how otherwise | [17:54] |
| diana_coman: | and some duplicate | [17:54] |
| danielpbarron: | i wanted to make a pickaxe for blessing | [17:54] |
| danielpbarron: | but i need this other thing to make it | [17:54] |
| jurov: | yes this is yet unsolved problem | [17:55] |
| danielpbarron: | aha | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, apparently it was just the interface messed up... | [17:56] |
| chetty: | well I was just trying to see in log here what diana_coman, but really hard to tell which actions are yours, I never meant to be able to track users here :) | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | I made a craft-table | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | that was the trouble | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | so made a craft-table, no problem | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | and then I right clicked on it... | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | and as a result everything went empty | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | inventory empty | [17:57] |
| chetty: | sounds like I need to throw in a few more, updates views so things dont get so confusing | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | craft-table (the original one) empty | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | then I closed and re-opened the inventory | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | and items re-appeared, but now they were in duplicate | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | meaning in the inventory and then on the craft table | [17:58] |
| chetty: | yeah I actually think the craft table is a big issue, probably shouldnt have a recipe for those | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | I could even move them around, lol | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | well, it would be good to have one | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | portable as it were :p | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | so I could move stuff around like in the mirror, lol | [17:59] |
| chetty: | well basically the bandar toolkit and the other thing are portable crafting things, you should outgrow the craft table pretty quick | [17:59] |
| diana_coman: | well, now I made myself one already :p | [18:00] |
| chetty: | anyway, I have to look but it maybe you cant pick it up again once you drop it | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | ha | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | :))) | [18:00] |
| jurov: | heh | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | I can pick it up | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | just tested | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | no problem, portable table, lol | [18:01] |
| jurov: | is it heavy? | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | neah | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | not heavy | [18:01] |
| chetty: | ahh good, well I guess have your own crafting spot, uder the sea or something :) | [18:01] |
| chetty: | <<< does not know every item in the database, it may be impossible to know all that :) | [18:02] |
| jurov: | lol it said items can't be added, it's guarded | [18:03] |
| jurov: | but added anyway | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | and now? | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | if I took the table away? | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | it did not show any items on it | [18:03] |
| jurov: | it did nothing | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | so you have the items at least, you did not lose them I hope | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | I could use it | [18:03] |
| jurov: | you don't have them? | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | no | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | I don't have anything that I did not put there | [18:04] |
| jurov: | i forgot to remmeber how many bit i had before :DDD | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | I made some bundle for the damn small boulder thing | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | so it's not just me not remembering those things | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | we can try again | [18:04] |
| jurov: | now it says it's guarded and did not add | [18:05] |
| diana_coman: | maybe you saw mine in fact | [18:05] |
| diana_coman: | not yours | [18:05] |
| diana_coman: | I added probably the same thing as you | [18:05] |
| jurov: | you put little bit of nithing there? | [18:05] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [18:05] |
| jurov: | hahaha | [18:05] |
| diana_coman: | well, that was why I made it in the first place: to be able to make the shitty bundles directly at the claim :p | [18:06] |
| chetty: | you can make bundles at the claim, they do combines | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | ha | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | thanks chetty | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | I did not realise that | [18:06] |
| chetty: | its hard and annoying, but not that much that would be cruel | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | well, I like my table, lol | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | anyone got anything other than 1 item from a small claim? | [18:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | grins from on high | [20:29] |
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