#eulora Logs for 07 Jun 2015


June 7th, 2015 by Diana Coman
mike_c: hey folks. is the server down or is my client borked? connection is failing. [00:05]
mod6: server is down [00:17]
mod6: chetty is afk for the night [00:17]
mike_c: ah, ok. thanks. at least that means my client might be working [00:18]
mod6: ah, ok cool :] [00:20]
diana_coman: morning [00:46]
diana_coman: chetty, I got another client seg fault: http://dpaste.com/1FWP41Q [00:46]
diana_coman: I could not replicate so far [00:46]
cazalla: anyone know what to do with the chicken scratchings? [01:17]
chetty: read them cazalla [04:11]
chetty: some one dies a lot :) [06:18]
mircea_popescu: lol [06:21]
diana_coman: hello [08:34]
diana_coman: there is some funny effect in eulora when my character is looking straight at something (a marker) and the marker...disappears [08:34]
diana_coman: the label is there, but the sprite is invisible [08:34]
chetty: yeah I have sen that happen but I have no clue why [08:40]
diana_coman: does it help to get a graphics bug report file at the moment when it happens? [08:44]
chetty: sure [08:44]
punkman: hello [08:46]
diana_coman: ugh, where did it save it? [08:46]
diana_coman: hello punkman [08:46]
punkman: so textures are pretty weird [08:47]
punkman: is the linux version better at that? [08:47]
punkman: oh found the Remarkable Nondescript Tubers Exploration Marker [08:48]
punkman: but I can't /pickup [08:48]
punkman: I guess that's not the item I need to be able to /explore [08:52]
diana_coman: no punkman, those markers cannot be picked up [08:53]
diana_coman: you get a marker when you explore successfully [08:53]
chetty: haha nope, yeah the textures are a bit rough, we still need an artist [08:53]
diana_coman: or you place a marker, rather [08:54]
punkman: not the quality of the textures per se, more like weird overlays and glitches [08:54]
punkman: I fell in the water from the top of the wreck and died! [08:58]
chetty: haha people are dieing a lot, they seem to like it [09:05]
diana_coman: yeah, it's a very ...healthy activity in eulora for the moment :p [09:06]
punkman: areas with a lot of bushes drop my fps pretty low [09:07]
chetty: server will go down briefly for rest in 2 [09:30]
chetty: *reset [09:31]
chetty: done [09:32]
chetty: server restart in 2 [10:09]
chetty: done [10:11]
diana_coman: why do I seem to be dead? [10:17]
diana_coman: all stats are 0 except stamina [10:17]
diana_coman: hmmm, now they are back [10:17]
chetty: seems there is sometimes a slight delay getting you the first set of stats when you log on [10:19]
diana_coman: is the server down? [10:40]
chetty: not now [11:10]
ben_vulpes: has *anyone* compiled CS successfully on os x? [11:13]
diana_coman: chetty, I got again that seg fault of this morning - did you get that? [11:15]
chetty: on your client? [11:16]
diana_coman: yes [11:21]
diana_coman: and uhm, the plain coarse flour recipe is blank? [11:21]
chetty: that could be, we are doing a lot of tweak the db now that we have enough people playing to exercise it, ty [11:23]
chetty: and keeping up with yuo guys is a workout :) [11:25]
diana_coman: why does it say "you probably should not leave 1 slag here?" - I have that 1 slag in my inventory [11:47]
diana_coman: there is no other slag I know of, lol [11:47]
diana_coman: oh, a TINY flotsam, lol [11:48]
diana_coman: ahaha - it gave 1 flotsam [11:51]
ben_vulpes: chetty: ping [11:53]
chetty: srry folks, MP figured out a way to crash and wont give me time to fix it :P [12:13]
diana_coman: lol [12:13]
diana_coman: once mined, the claim shouldn't go away? or is it still useful? [12:17]
chetty: it will go away eventually, the sweeper will get it [12:18]
diana_coman: ah, ok [12:20]
chetty: I usually leave the key in them after I mine it and let the sweeper take care of things [12:21]
diana_coman: that's a good idea to get rid of the key too [12:22]
diana_coman: thanks [12:22]
jurov: how do i switch focus in and out of command window? using mouse gets tedious [12:53]
ben_vulpes: i'm going to try this one more time on my old mac box [12:58]
ben_vulpes: aah it totally works on my old mac [13:01]
ben_vulpes: ffs world [13:01]
mircea_popescu: lol [13:02]
mircea_popescu: scavenger world. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: jurov enter [13:03]
jurov: and out of it? [13:04]
chetty: lo ben does this mean you dont need the upload? [13:04]
ben_vulpes: i suppose yeah [13:04]
jurov: Esc closes it completel [13:04]
ben_vulpes: 10.7.5 apparently seems to configure [13:04]
ben_vulpes: chetty doesn't look like a repo problem, looks like a jam/os x problem [13:05]
mircea_popescu: jurov enter again no ? [13:07]
jurov: ah i see [13:08]
jurov: yay first tiny claim [13:10]
mircea_popescu: lol wd [13:19]
jurov: server down, this time on exploring [13:25]
chetty: up, ty [13:30]
jurov: what the number on login screen says? it shows 217 29\% [13:31]
chetty: the 217 is basically a ping, the 29\% is just nonsense [13:32]
jurov: survey marker at 365,-170 is mostly buried underground [13:33]
chetty: lo I tried to move is down a bit, guess I got carried away :) [13:33]
jurov: and when I stand on top of it and rotate camera, the erath buckles up and down [13:34]
jurov: *earth [13:34]
jurov: i noticed this elsewhere, too [13:34]
jurov: my pickaxe is gone!! halp!!! [13:35]
jurov: gods punished me for reckless exploring, i guess :( [13:36]
mircea_popescu: lol [13:37]
mircea_popescu: they decay [13:37]
jurov: oh, maybe *that* was what crashed the server [13:37]
jurov: so they decay more quickly than one's health without them? or the merchant is scammer and sold me bad pickaxe? [13:38]
chetty: yeah actually the tool decay is the server issue at the moment, working on it [13:39]
mircea_popescu: jurov they decay pretty fast, yeah. [13:41]
punkman: I didn't find anything to pickup earlier and gave up [13:48]
chetty: takes a bit of looking around for things [13:49]
jurov: yea, jus' several hours [13:49]
punkman: I found the boxy NPCs on the mountain and some whale fountain [13:50]
mod6: fountain used to be my favorite [13:50]
punkman: that glowing thing near the water stunned me for 30sec at a time [13:50]
chetty: well seems like some people find them fast, others take a while [13:50]
jurov: it says "you probably shouldn't leave 8 bits of nothing here" but they stay safely in my inventory [13:56]
danielpbarron: the /explore command used to hurt me and say it gave me practice and now it doesn't hurt and doesn't give practice [13:57]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron did you level up ? [14:08]
danielpbarron: my "gathering" skill is still 1 [14:11]
jurov: that's not it, mine is at 10 due to ingestion of murkysomethings [14:12]
mircea_popescu: but go talk to the trainer [14:12]
jurov: and it still hurts [14:12]
mircea_popescu: did you equip a tool or something in your hand ? [14:12]
jurov: he prolly stole my pickaxe! [14:13]
danielpbarron: i put a key in my sword slot and my shield slot [14:13]
jurov: orly? /me goes to try [14:13]
mod6: now there's an idea. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the key is the culprit [14:14]
danielpbarron: that's where they went when i typed /use key [14:14]
mircea_popescu: you're trying to mine with the kye [14:14]
danielpbarron: i tried doing it with the keys taken out [14:14]
jurov: hahahaha it works [14:14]
mircea_popescu: jurov what works ? [14:14]
jurov: exploring with key [14:15]
mircea_popescu: did you find anything ? [14:15]
danielpbarron: oh [14:15]
danielpbarron: huh [14:15]
danielpbarron: yeah it works in the shield slot alone [14:15]
danielpbarron: key as shield lets me explore without getting hurt [14:15]
jurov: no [14:15]
danielpbarron: but also not practice [14:15]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well, let me know if you manage to find something like that :) [14:15]
danielpbarron: have found nothing in any way so far [14:15]
danielpbarron: using /explore [14:16]
mircea_popescu: well you won't without a key. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: shit. i mean, you won't if you're wearing the key. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: and where did you get the key from anyway ? [14:16]
danielpbarron: i found 7 keys on the ground [14:16]
danielpbarron: near someone's camp [14:17]
danielpbarron: i think it's in the log here, whoever dropped them [14:17]
jurov: it's me or mod6 [14:17]
jurov: they are useless [14:17]
jurov: and cuz how the tiny claims work, there will be plenty of thrown out keys laying around [14:18]
Birdman: those are the seven keys to the tomb or arbakla [14:18]
mod6: i never dropped mine. [14:18]
mod6: i just stuck my zapped keys into storage. [14:18]
mircea_popescu: lol [14:20]
jurov: on unrelated note, i suggest when things fail, they should not vanish but fall out into some of raw materials [14:21]
mircea_popescu: you'll be able to repair stuff later. the idea is to keep an eye on your items. [14:22]
mod6: anyway, yeah /explore with keys equiped doesn't hurt you, but i don't think it works the same because you don't get any practice points in gathering. [14:23]
jurov: how to examine quality of stuff and recipes offered by merchant? [14:23]
mod6: *shrug* [14:23]
mod6: i'll keep trying. [14:23]
chetty: well it expects tools to explore with, but it lets you get away with using your barehands [14:25]
Birdman: Think im stuck at the bottom of a cliff [14:28]
mircea_popescu: jurov eye icon to the bottom right of window [14:29]
jurov: but it won't show recipe ingredients [14:29]
mircea_popescu: yeah, recipes you gotta own one. [14:30]
jurov: scam! [14:30]
mircea_popescu: haha what, recipe information wants to be free ? [14:32]
Birdman: does it require having the physical recipe? or if you know it can you still make it? [14:33]
danielpbarron: recipeleaks [14:33]
jurov: so, does the merchant allow examining the recipe for a fee? [14:36]
jurov: obv not, since you made it and don't need it [14:36]
danielpbarron: I DID IT [14:37]
danielpbarron: i found something with /explore with my bare hands [14:37]
danielpbarron: taking advantage of the death subsidy [14:37]
chetty: :) [14:39]
danielpbarron: and anothe one [14:40]
Birdman: How do i get that item that pays out satoshi? [14:43]
chetty: an item pays???? [14:44]
mod6: yah where should we meet? the craft table? [14:44]
mod6: i'll meet ya at the craft table around midnight. *wink* *nudge* [14:45]
punkman: do you have to squeeze the bag daily to get the coins? [14:46]
Birdman: yeah [14:47]
jurov: what midnight? UTC? [14:48]
jurov: they are more easir to find now [14:48]
mod6: i was just kidding [14:48]
jurov: ^sry wrong window [14:48]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wd! [14:49]
mircea_popescu: jurov lol the fee being, you buy the recipe [14:49]
mircea_popescu: (they can also be looted) [14:49]
diana_coman: hmmm, either I don't get something, or it's not really as it's meant to be [15:08]
diana_coman: I had a small claim with a blueprint listing the bundled bits of nothing several times [15:09]
diana_coman: last time when I had such a thing, I could use that number of bundled bits of nothing [15:09]
diana_coman: this time it did not work the same [15:09]
diana_coman: was there something changed relevant to this, chetty? [15:09]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i have the same problem, i suspect one small recipe is broken [15:10]
mircea_popescu: yhou got a flotsam ? [15:10]
diana_coman: the first time, that was that small flotsam thing [15:10]
diana_coman: this time it was a bird's nest [15:10]
diana_coman: small [15:10]
mircea_popescu: and basically the bits just don't make a bundle right ? [15:11]
diana_coman: ah, no, I mean: after trying all sorts, the first time I figured out you needed to make n bundles, each out of 7 bits [15:11]
diana_coman: and then I just mined with the n bundles [15:12]
diana_coman: and it worked [15:12]
diana_coman: now instead [15:12]
jurov: bought plain coarse flour recipe, it is empty [15:12]
diana_coman: yes jurov, I saw that too earlier [15:12]
diana_coman: now the mining did not allow me to use more than 1 bundle [15:12]
diana_coman: or at least it did not allow me to use the full number of bundles [15:12]
diana_coman: I should have tried with slightly fewer, but I didn't [15:13]
chetty: nothing in that area has changed, code wise [15:13]
mircea_popescu: this is weird. [15:13]
mircea_popescu: what do you mean full numbe of bundles ? [15:13]
diana_coman: so: [15:13]
diana_coman: first time, small flotsam claim [15:13]
diana_coman: made something like 10 bundles of nothing [15:13]
diana_coman: (don't remember the number, but let's say 10) [15:13]
diana_coman: got there [15:13]
diana_coman: mined [15:14]
diana_coman: either with all 10 bundles, or 1 by 1 but several times (can't truly remember which version, but surely more bundles) [15:14]
diana_coman: as far as I remember I mined several times with 1 bundle each time [15:14]
diana_coman: until the recipe disappeared [15:14]
diana_coman: the recipe said like 7 bits of nothing with 7 bits of nothing, 7 bits of nothing with 7 bits of nothing, etc [15:15]
diana_coman: something like 20 times or so, 2 pages of it, lol [15:15]
diana_coman: got one again now, will try it [15:17]
diana_coman: nondescript tubers this time [15:17]
mod6: yeah, i bought like 250 to satisfy the request. [15:17]
diana_coman: and did it work several times, mod6? [15:17]
mod6: only to find out my small mining claim that needed 'em had been zapped. [15:17]
diana_coman: awww [15:17]
mod6: well, i think that defect is fixed now, so shouln't be a problem. [15:18]
mod6: going forward anyway. [15:18]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so you got mining results multiple times ? the recipe didn't go away after first completion ?! [15:18]
diana_coman: it seemed so on the very first claim, yes, but "multiple times" while there, I did not leave in between or something [15:19]
mircea_popescu: test this because it shouldn't actually happen [15:19]
diana_coman: well, a bit earlier it didn't, lol [15:19]
mircea_popescu: is it possible the following scenario played out : [15:20]
diana_coman: ugh, now it was even more bizarre...there is something strange there [15:20]
mircea_popescu: a) you had multiple finds of the same type (say small flotsam) ; b) the recipes stacked in your inventory as you found them ; c) you put the recipe in head not noticing it's 2 items, or more ; d) you used them as per normal. [15:20]
diana_coman: nope [15:21]
diana_coman: there was 1 single claim [15:21]
diana_coman: I had searched for it a whole lot, lol [15:21]
mircea_popescu: lol. aite, ima look into this and the flour [15:21]
diana_coman: plus anyway, would you be able to use them all at the same claim? [15:21]
diana_coman: I mean: if I have 4 recipes for small flotsam [15:22]
diana_coman: I can just go to 1 small flotsam claim [15:22]
diana_coman: and use them all? [15:22]
mircea_popescu: not for long :D [15:23]
diana_coman: in any case, it surely was just one single claim [15:23]
diana_coman: that I am 100\% sure [15:23]
mircea_popescu: but recipes ? [15:23]
diana_coman: where from? [15:24]
diana_coman: I had just one single small claim in total [15:24]
diana_coman: of all kinds [15:25]
diana_coman: so 1 small recipe too [15:25]
mircea_popescu: aha [15:31]
mod6: well,... i guess I've gotta head out. [15:35]
mod6: i might be back before 23:00... [15:36]
jurov: what happens when you have 80 items in your inventory and buy another ones? [15:36]
diana_coman: anyway, the recipe doesn't really make sense then: why does it repeat the thing 20 times? [15:36]
diana_coman: if you just make and use a single one? [15:37]
jurov: i bought something and noticed my inv is full and it isn't there [15:37]
diana_coman: any bundle around? [15:37]
chetty: check your hands? [15:39]
mircea_popescu: so dear eulorians : the magical bags will be given out soonish. [15:39]
mircea_popescu: make sure you're in game ! [15:39]
jurov: chetty i have 100 nothings somewhere and can't access them cuz i had full inventory when i ought them [15:40]
jurov: oh nm i put them and retrieved from storage [15:41]
chetty: lmao [15:46]
diana_coman: the ordinary solid branch is a circular thing, lol: you need a solid branch to mine more solid branches - is it for bait, or what? [15:46]
jurov: chetty: of all people you could know it's possible to have more than 80 things in the bag :D [15:50]
jurov: lol so when you stack things with different quality in your inventory, they average out [15:56]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what time is the event? [16:54]
diana_coman: it's now on [16:54]
cazalla: where at? [16:55]
diana_coman: in the ravine close to the craft-table [16:55]
diana_coman: let me check pos [16:55]
diana_coman: 190 47 110 [16:56]
cazalla: ah i see yas [16:56]
jurov: chetty: http://www.explo.yt/eulora/eulora_34_smallshinyrock.jpg same thing that diana got [17:18]
diana_coman: I always get that for small claims it seems [17:19]
jurov: down [17:34]
Birdman: yeah [17:34]
chetty: playing with tools agian I see [17:39]
mod6: is the server down, or is it just me? [18:10]
danielpbarron: down [18:10]
mod6: thx [18:11]
chetty: up now [18:16]
mod6: nice [18:17]
ben_vulpes: - cp breakpad/src/client/apple/Framework/* eulora-src/src/client/macosx/Frameworks [18:22]
ben_vulpes: derp, sorry [18:22]
chetty: hey ben, how goes? [18:24]
ben_vulpes: oh, derpin [18:25]
ben_vulpes: i am now compiling client again [18:26]
ben_vulpes: first time forgot cal3d, had to build that and then rebuild cs and now finally eulora again [18:26]
chetty: well make MP give you a bag even if you didnt get there in time, you was tryin [18:26]
ben_vulpes: heh and found some bitrot in the process [18:27]
ben_vulpes: nbd, i'm hacking to play, not for the freebies [18:27]
chetty: :D [18:27]
jurov: chetty did you notice the problem with giving coins? that if you have only a few larger coins, you can't break them down? [18:35]
mircea_popescu: aaaand it's crashed lol. [19:51]
mike_c: hmm.. I'm seeing a bot that posts in channel when the server goes down and up :) [20:13]
ben_vulpes: ...failed ObjC++ ./out/macosx/optimize/src/client/macosx/maccrashreport.o ... [20:14]
ben_vulpes: *sigh* [20:14]
Birdman: hopefully that wont be necessary? [20:18]
mircea_popescu: mike_c haha nah, we'll get it smooth. [20:18]
mircea_popescu: btw, you ever managed to get it going ? [20:19]
mike_c: i think so, but went to sign on last night and just now and no server :) [20:19]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes people were askin' about you at the rave yo. there's another someone called foxy [20:19]
mircea_popescu: mike_c aww you missed teh event! [20:19]
mike_c: yeah.. kids. who needs 'em [20:20]
mircea_popescu: awww [20:20]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: elorave? [20:30]
ben_vulpes: eulorave* [20:31]
mircea_popescu: lol ya [20:41]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how many in all? [20:48]
ben_vulpes: nm [20:51]
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/0XRXFWS << down the rabbit hole [23:28]
ben_vulpes: any notion of how to point the cs configure script at the os x opengl headers? [23:31]
mircea_popescu: you're the only os/x guy i know ;/ [23:33]
ben_vulpes: i hates it [23:40]
mircea_popescu: you know a) ubuntu takes ten minutes to install and b) eulora compiles in about 10 minutes on it. [23:42]
mircea_popescu: not to say that ubuntu doesn't suck, for it does, but there's suck and then there's suck. [23:42]
ben_vulpes: it's all windows of different pedigrees [23:46]
ben_vulpes: tomorrow i procure a thinkpad [23:46]
ben_vulpes: or a garbagetower [23:46]

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