| chetty: | good morning diana_coman | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | good morning chetty | [08:35] |
| diana_coman: | how are you? | [08:35] |
| chetty: | better now, I found a whole new way for this to fail, and finally figured out how to fix it | [08:36] |
| chetty: | how are you? | [08:36] |
| diana_coman: | ha, that sounds really good actually | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | I'm quite enjoying eulora :) | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | so thank you :) | [08:39] |
| chetty: | thats good to hear, I really am enjoying seeing people play it :) | [08:39] |
| chetty: | Makes it a lot more enjoyable to keep working on | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | is there any plan to make a kind of player-market? like to be able to offer things for sale and buy things offered by other players? | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | or is it meant to be just through direct trade player to player? | [08:42] |
| chetty: | yes, but for now its direct trades | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | I mean character to character, meeting and setting up the trade on the spot | [08:43] |
| chetty: | I am actually still wrestling the merchant a bit, MP has some nutty requirements but eventually there will be a way to make a market | [08:44] |
| chetty: | for now meet up and trade | [08:44] |
| diana_coman: | sure :) | [08:44] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, I gotta go right now, but I'll be back a few hours later :) | [08:45] |
| chetty: | cya | [08:45] |
| diana_coman: | bye | [08:45] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, guess I am done in eulora for about 5 days now | [11:37] |
| chetty: | oh? dont want to miss sunday event if you can help it | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | no, no, precisely | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | I don't think there is much more I can do right now | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | or at least until I get around 5000 coppers more | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | I did not realise that getting the materials was so poor with low tinkering skills, I thought it relied more on gathering | [11:39] |
| chetty: | ahhh well tomorrow is sunday so I guess it will catch up, did you have a chance to try any crafting? | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | that's the thing: I did some crafting (I guess making the bundles count for that) but the results's quality was so abysmal that they are totally worthless, lol | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman im pretty sure mining is +ev | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | a tiny costs ~11 to exploit, a small ~77. | [11:41] |
| chetty: | ahh yes, quality is indeed an issue with a lot of things :) | [11:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | larger ones are more expensive, so perhaps not accessible, but you should be able to scrounge 11 together. | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | hmmmm, I did not look into that, I must have missed something | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [11:42] |
| chetty: | people do seem to be getting a lot of the larger claims they cant really do much with | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | that's the thing | [11:43] |
| diana_coman: | I have tons of remarkable this and that | [11:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well those will have to wait. also crafting higher level stuff. | [11:43] |
| diana_coman: | yes, all I wanted was to exploit some of those claims I had | [11:44] |
| diana_coman: | I chose an "ordinary" one, but still the cost of ingredients for the thing is quite high | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess it's not directly obvious that those are in fact rare/valuable, on account of how common they are atm. | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | wont last. | [11:44] |
| diana_coman: | lol, there seem to be some types that are rare in fact | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | i meant sizes. | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: bird's nest for instance is rare as far as I can see | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | while flotsam is all over the place | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | fact that one gets 4 remarkable out of 5 tries makes them think remarkable's not that remarkable lol | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yes types have their rarities. | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | also zones matter. | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | yes, somehow remarkable appeared a lot lately - I thought it had to do with my skill level at gathering rather | [11:46] |
| diana_coman: | (having improved it quite significantly :P ) | [11:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | i just fed the pool a little to start it off is all :) | [11:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | and no, anything under 1k is scarcely worth the mention :D | [11:46] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [11:46] |
| diana_coman: | the thing is: atm I did not see anything below 18 to exploit (adding the costs of items for the "bundle" from the merchant) | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | either I just don't have something small enough | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | or I missed something | [11:47] |
| chetty: | you have any claims that say tiny, or small? | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | where does it say tiny/small/smth else? | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | it says 1000 as size | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | mainly | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | most of them | [11:48] |
| chetty: | well the recipe name, or the description of the key | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | yep, the key description says size: 1000 | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | not tiny/small | [11:49] |
| chetty: | hmm | [11:49] |
| chetty: | meet me by merchant? | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | on my way | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | gt there | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | indeed, small seems to be actually truly... remarkable for now :))) | [12:08] |
| chetty: | sigh | [12:09] |
| chetty: | I am pretty sure either danielpbarron or mod6 has one | [12:10] |
| diana_coman: | yaaaay | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | :)))) | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | I got one now, too | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | ahahahah | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | lol, so many bits o' nothings | [12:12] |
| chetty: | coolness, grats | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | yes, only in eulora :p | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | haha | [12:18] |
| diana_coman: | are those bits of nothings purposefully confusing? | [12:20] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: some are bigger and some are smaller (as far as I can tell) | [12:20] |
| diana_coman: | ahh, nevermind | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [12:29] |
| diana_coman: | bah, need a mule now | [12:36] |
| diana_coman: | yaaaay made and sold some flotsam, lol | [12:42] |
| danielpbarron: | i haven't found the murky thing yet | [12:47] |
| diana_coman: | btw chetty, the small visual issue with the merchant interface is fixed at the merchant, but not at the trainer (storing) | [12:52] |
| chetty: | ah okies ty | [12:53] |
| chetty: | did anyone other than jurov get on with windows yet? | [13:21] |
| jurov: | hi chetty, idk | [13:22] |
| thestringpuller: | i'll try later today | [13:22] |
| jurov: | and i forgot to ask - where are the VS files from? | [13:22] |
| thestringpuller: | i'll grab binaries from jurov blog. | [13:22] |
| jurov: | thestringpuller: they have a problem - compiled with debug dlls that are not readily available | [13:23] |
| chetty: | leftovers from the base I started develpment with, enitely possible they have problems since I have no way to debug or keep them up with out a win system | [13:24] |
| jurov: | but there are added references to ../../cs , who did that? | [13:25] |
| jurov: | the core of the issue is that without these references compile obv blows up and they are only in one debug configuration | [13:26] |
| jurov: | and as said yest to mp, configurations are hairy mess | [13:27] |
| jurov: | generally in msvc | [13:27] |
| chetty: | yeah I bet they are, interesting the added references.. wasnt me,only stuff I have messed with is the jamfiles, touching the windows stuff without a win system si counterproductive, imo, wouldnt have a clue what needed to be done | [13:30] |
| chetty: | frnakly I am a bit astounded you managed a compile that works at all | [13:31] |
| chetty: | been 5-6 years since I had a win system and compiled anythig, what a bitch it was too | [13:32] |
| jurov: | well.. this time i'm retrying with "ReleaseWithDLLs" and will try to add missing references as they'll come up | [13:33] |
| chetty: | cool, I dont know if I can be any help but I will try :) | [13:34] |
| danielpbarron: | aha! i found the murky thing! | [13:40] |
| chetty: | woohoo grats danielpbarron | [13:43] |
| chetty: | hello Birdman | [13:46] |
| Birdman: | Hello | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | he's gonna attempt the windows binary | [13:47] |
| chetty: | oh nice :) | [13:47] |
| Birdman: | Now when it says to replace the files, i should be deleting everything it says to replace then add the others right? | [14:13] |
| jurov: | what "it"? | [14:14] |
| Birdman: | http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows | [14:14] |
| jurov: | oh just copy new files over the old ones, don't remove anything | [14:15] |
| Birdman: | kk | [14:15] |
| jurov: | but hold on, ive made a progress and will publish updated package in few minutes | [14:15] |
| jurov: | it seems to no longer load the debug dll | [14:15] |
| Birdman: | i think i got that same message | [14:17] |
| Birdman: | or it says it is missing | [14:17] |
| jurov: | well, few other things changed as well, so i reuploaded complete bundle (only cs-winlibs are needed, nothing else): http://www.explo.yt/eulora/Eulora-Jun12015-win32-r2.7z | [14:24] |
| jurov: | sha256sum: 1bc602c0a0dbc794b4cdce056256deebf8f3937397d54aa33611d2937ff2af2d | [14:25] |
| thestringpuller: | ick those cs-winlibs | [14:29] |
| thestringpuller: | i'll install those first | [14:29] |
| jurov: | http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows updated | [14:30] |
| chetty: | :D | [14:34] |
| Birdman: | should i uninstall cs-winlibs and redownload | [14:35] |
| chetty: | I should think that depends on version you have? | [14:35] |
| Birdman: | The one not just updated | [14:36] |
| jurov: | which version you had before? | [14:36] |
| jurov: | if you had _003 installed, it's fine | [14:37] |
| thestringpuller: | wait i need to install msys and cygwin too? | [14:37] |
| thestringpuller: | >:( | [14:37] |
| Birdman: | i do, so what do ineed to do now? | [14:38] |
| Birdman: | I replaced files and installed winlibs | [14:38] |
| jurov: | run the .bat? | [14:38] |
| Birdman: | thestringpuller: it says they're not needed | [14:38] |
| Birdman: | a command box shows up for a second and closes itself | [14:39] |
| jurov: | weird, there is "pause" in the end of eulora.bat so that you can see what heppened | [14:41] |
| jurov: | if you don't have it there you have wrong version, better create from scratch | [14:41] |
| Birdman: | what do you mean pause | [14:41] |
| jurov: | you don't have to reinstall cs-winlibs, only wipe c:\eulora and extract -r2 there | [14:41] |
| Birdman: | gotcha | [14:42] |
| jurov: | fuck yeah, remembered i have win7 image tucked away and... IT RUNS THERE | [14:46] |
| chetty: | oh wow, neat | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [14:47] |
| jurov: | but you need additionally if you don't have installed already: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8328 | [14:48] |
| jurov: | what a silence | [14:58] |
| chetty: | people busy making it work? | [14:58] |
| jurov: | yes i hope so | [14:59] |
| chetty: | someone is online dieing | [14:59] |
| Birdman: | Im waiting for it to re download | [14:59] |
| Birdman: | will keep you posted | [14:59] |
| danielpbarron: | heh that was me | [15:02] |
| Birdman: | Ok, it says libcal3d-csvc10.dll is missing | [15:04] |
| jurov: | are you on 32bit system? | [15:04] |
| danielpbarron: | lost connection to server | [15:05] |
| danielpbarron: | gtg eat anyway lol | [15:05] |
| Birdman: | 64 bit | [15:05] |
| jurov: | Birdman check that all the diretories that eulora.bat adds to PATH exist and do contain dlls? | [15:08] |
| jurov: | libcal3d-csvc10.dll should be in c:\program files(x86)\CS | [15:10] |
| Birdman: | it is not | [15:11] |
| Birdman: | but the rest seem to be ok | [15:11] |
| jurov: | hm.. perhaps i'm mistaken and cs-winlibs should be installed *with* MSVC support | [15:12] |
| jurov: | you don't have to reinstall them, there's utility in their start sumbemu to do it | [15:12] |
| jurov: | *start submenu | [15:12] |
| jurov: | "Set up VC support" | [15:13] |
| jurov: | (just my educated guess why the dll is not there) | [15:14] |
| Birdman: | i dont see that in the submenu | [15:15] |
| jurov: | weird. it's there both in win 7 and win8 | [15:17] |
| jurov: | did you really install it with default settings? | [15:17] |
| Birdman: | yeah completely | [15:18] |
| jurov: | try running C:\CrystalSpaceLibs\VCsupport.exe ? | [15:20] |
| Birdman: | im just going to re install it | [15:21] |
| Birdman: | because i dont even see that | [15:21] |
| jurov: | kk | [15:21] |
| jurov: | install the msvc redistributable first, maybe it's a precondition | [15:25] |
| jurov: | anyone else thying? thestringpuller? | [15:26] |
| jurov: | *trying | [15:26] |
| jurov: | brb | [15:27] |
| Birdman: | it doesnt say it is missing anymore, but it says psclient.exe has stopped working | [15:51] |
| Birdman: | oh there it goes | [15:56] |
| Birdman: | and it stopped working again | [15:56] |
| Birdman: | its running no | [15:58] |
| Birdman: | now | [15:58] |
| jurov: | no details? | [15:58] |
| jurov: | oh | [15:58] |
| Birdman: | i think it was just freezing up for some reason | [15:58] |
| jurov: | yes, it does some processing that causes win to think it is "not responding" | [15:58] |
| Birdman: | right | [15:59] |
| jurov: | do you have account? | [16:00] |
| Birdman: | no, i asked mp for one | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman ya 1 sec | [16:04] |
| Birdman: | thanks | [16:04] |
| jurov: | so... gotta make signed manifest and upload the thing ... once mp's paranoid ftp server lets me in | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov you still can't get in ? | [16:06] |
| jurov: | not even connect anymore | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | on looking into this | [16:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | i tried it yest and it was working o.O | [16:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman http://dpaste.com/2SX5P25 | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov, check it out, it's banned us! | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | lfd: (sshd) Failed SSH login from * (SK/Slovakia/*): 5 in the last 300 secs - Fri Jun 5 16:42:05 2015 | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | lfd: * (AR/Argentina/*), 5 distributed sshd attacks on account [jurov] in the last 300 secs - Fri Jun 5 16:42:15 2015 | [16:12] |
| jurov: | haha | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway : use normal ftp, port 21. should werk nao. | [16:12] |
| Birdman: | are there supposed to be more than one option for the race? and also i can't change the way the character looks | [16:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes, not that many models in yet. | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov lemme know if you manage | [16:18] |
| Birdman: | right | [16:18] |
| chetty: | only one male and one female model so far | [16:19] |
| Birdman: | I like the message of the day | [16:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | hehe | [16:20] |
| chetty: | hahahaha you guys messin with mu server :P | [16:22] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: i'm in, i realized i tried minigame.biz instead of minigame.bz | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah. cool then. | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | so yeah, make manifests like the http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ stuff. and do include anything that may need mirroring | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | like whatever people complained was slow yest. | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | is there any way to carry more stuff? | [16:39] |
| diana_coman: | any backpack or anything | [16:39] |
| chetty: | not yet diana_coman | [16:52] |
| chetty: | there are a lot of inventory slots ... | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | and still more to carry | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | if anyone wants to help, there is money to be made, lol | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, are things safe in a locked claim (after having mined them)? | [17:01] |
| jurov: | i'd say yes | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | well, the game keeps warning it seems, so I am not sure | [17:13] |
| jurov: | what warnings? | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | something like you should not leave 10 flotsam here | [17:14] |
| jurov: | heh, the landscape is funny with all the markers... and we're only 3 | [17:17] |
| chetty: | server restart coming up | [18:07] |
| mod6: | ok | [18:08] |
| cazalla: | i take it that number near servers on login client is ping | [18:12] |
| chetty: | ya | [18:12] |
| cazalla: | 210-230ms ping from down under so not that bad considering | [18:15] |
| chetty: | nice, and welcome aboard | [18:15] |
| cazalla: | so how does /explore work? i get a notificaton that "ouch that hurts!" when i use it | [19:13] |
| mod6: | yeah that's what happens if you use your hands, and you hvae no tools. | [19:15] |
| mod6: | did the server change make it so you can't see who's markers are whos? | [19:22] |
| mod6: | oh nevermind, i guess if it's mine it'll say so. | [19:23] |
| mod6: | O Eulora Server, wherefore art tho Eulora Server. | [19:46] |
| mod6: | s/tho/thou/ | [19:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand i killed it o.O | [20:29] |
| mod6: | ah, did you do anything specific? | [20:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have no idea, but chet's offlinbe for the day so... we're stuck lol | [20:33] |
| mod6: | ah, heheh. np. | [20:33] |
| mod6: | we're still on for tomorrow right? | [20:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [20:43] |
| mod6: | sweet | [20:43] |
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