| diana_coman: | !o uptime | [11:08] |
| ossabot: | diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 22d 20h 48m | [11:08] |
| diana_coman: | !s help | [11:16] |
| sonofawitch: | !s is my prefix for commands: hi, help | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | !o uptime | [11:34] |
| ossabot: | diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 22d 21h 14m | [11:34] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 26 Apr 2020 | [11:40] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/eulora-logs-for-26-apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #eulora Logs for 26 Apr 2020 | [11:55] |
| diana_coman: | in advantages of publishing the logs like any other text on blog... backlinks ; might even make for more motivation to finally get to the bottom of missing trackbacks otherwise. | [11:58] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/a-day-in-april/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Day in April | [16:17] |
| billymg: | !!ratings | [17:43] |
| deedbot: | http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=co2w | [17:43] |
| billymg: | ^ finally got around to that bit of housekeeping | [17:44] |
| billymg: | thank you to everyone who responded to my mp-wp survey, it cleared up a lot in my head about the desired direction for the project | [17:55] |
| billymg: | i'll publish my interpretation of the results soon, but even reading the raw responses i think should be interesting to anyone who uses mp-wp | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | billymg: fwiw, after doing all the scripts to import logs and to get real-time logging into mpwp and all that, I realised that in the process I pretty much got also ~all I'd need to not even look at the web-based interface anymore | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | sure, there'd be a bit more work to make stuff like comment moderation more convenient but otherwise it kind of boggles the mind why exactly did I put up with the web-based login for so long. | [18:14] |
| diana_coman: | (well: because I never took the time to really look at it; in turn, because there were bigger fires & more annoying things to sort out etc; as it always goes) | [18:15] |
| billymg: | diana_coman: yeah, one of the big takeaways for me is that JS can be removed entirely sooner than i had previously thought (the "libraries" of which are a big portion of the overall weight of the codebase) | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | ah, that for sure. | [18:18] |
| diana_coman: | billymg: I'm curious though what you make of it given that from what I saw, the answers from non-mpwp users were ~all mainly "shall never use it on ideological grounds" | [18:22] |
| diana_coman: | maybe I should say even religious grounds by now, lol. | [18:26] |
| billymg: | diana_coman: my read from the non-mpwp users was not quite as pessimistic. two of the three responses seemed to indicate that if the codebase was trimmed enough and a CLI introduced they would not be opposed to running it | [18:27] |
| diana_coman: | I think you are very optimistic but I'll be very happy to be proved wrong in this as well as above. | [18:28] |
| diana_coman: | shall be back later at the usual 7pm utc | [18:29] |
| billymg: | diana_coman: haha, it's the optimism that motivates. it also doesn't hurt that despite perhaps being in different ideological camps, both users and non-users alike have similar goals -- e.g. 1) run something with as small a footprint as possible that 2) doesn't require too much hassle and 3) allows for cli/script interaction to fit more efficiently into their preferred workflow | [18:35] |
| billymg: | diana_coman: i think you might be right about users already invested in another solution though. even if mp-wp becomes palatable to them there are switching costs. but getting to the point where, hypothetically, if they were starting fresh again mp-wp would be their first choice, would still be a win | [18:43] |
| billymg: | bbl, breakfast is ready | [18:44] |
| lobbes: | diana_comam: I have a massive log and blog debt to catch up on. Seems work on mpwp keeps moving forward and I'm still interested in lending a hand with any irc-to-blog work. The mp-wp-bot I was working on does indeed to real-time logging to mp-wp. I'll be spending today and early next week on getting back up to speed on things. | [20:50] |
| lobbes: | speaking of, auctionbot is MIA I see; I will fix | [20:50] |
| diana_coman: | oh hey, wb lobbes | [20:58] |
| diana_coman: | !!up #ossasepia LizTurner | [20:58] |
| deedbot: | LizTurner voiced for 30 minutes. | [20:58] |
| diana_coman: | LizTurner: hello | [20:58] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes: what happened to you this almost full April, anyway? | [20:59] |
| diana_coman: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020/#1025280 - this would be about the most generous interpretation indeed; to me there's a stark contrast between those answers and e.g. http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Apr-2020/#1024027 | [21:03] |
| sonofawitch: | 2020-04-26 18:35:29 (#ossasepia) billymg: diana_coman: haha, it's the optimism that motivates. it also doesn't hurt that despite perhaps being in different ideological camps, both users and non-users alike have similar goals -- e.g. 1) run something with as small a footprint as possible that 2) doesn't require too much hassle and 3) allows for cli/script interaction to fit more efficiently into their preferred workflow | [21:03] |
| sonofawitch: | 2020-04-09 16:14:08 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: ie make the trunk of mpwp so that I'm 2x more productive using it than whatever entrenched habits I might have, and I'll change the darned habits already | [21:03] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, to my mind the benefit would be in reaching out to new people rather than trying to convince anyone who has already made their mind to not use it. | [21:05] |
| diana_coman: | huh, those join-and-leave, not even spewing out some spam, boggles the mind | [21:07] |
| diana_coman: | it's like children's games - ring at the door and run away sort of thing? | [21:07] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: how's the Knuth & logs diet going for you? | [21:10] |
| sonofawitch: | 2020-04-22 16:58:06 (#ossasepia) cruciform: I've had enough Knuth for a bit, so gonna work on reading the logs; writing an article on "What is YH?" | [21:10] |
| cruciform: | !!up #ossasepia cruciform | [21:21] |
| deedbot: | You may not !!up yourself. | [21:21] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: ^ what's wrong there ? | [21:22] |
| diana_coman: | hm, I thought voice params were changed already. | [21:23] |
| sonofawitch: | 2020-04-18 18:15:44 (#ossasepia) trinque: diana_coman: sitting down to another round of deedbot tweaking now, will make sure the voice params are also changed. | [21:23] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, I went from not-doing-a-lot-inside to not-doing-a-lot outside for the last few days; I'll have a post up by tomorrow eve http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020#1025296 | [21:23] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2020-04-26 16:32:27 diana_coman: cruciform: how's the Knuth & logs diet going for you? | [21:23] |
| sonofawitch: | 2020-04-22 16:58:06 (#ossasepia) cruciform: I've had enough Knuth for a bit, so gonna work on reading the logs; writing an article on "What is YH?" | [21:23] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: ahaha, at least a change of ...scenery! | [21:24] |
| cruciform: | speaking of, enjoyed http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/a-day-in-april/ | [21:25] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: oh hey, glad to hear it! | [21:25] |
| jfw: | dorion: how's it going with the sales article revisions? | [21:51] |
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