| diana_coman: | jfw: v.pl does have its quirks and a relatively too-silent/uninformative fail mode, indeed. | [04:51] |
| diana_coman: | yay, welcome back feedbot ! | [04:51] |
| diana_coman: | spyked: what are you up to those days? | [04:51] |
| spyked: | diana_coman: juggling the torrent of work coming from saeculum, mostly. also reading and fiddling with feedbot's innards... was just installing some instrumentation in ircbot to figure out how to gracefully handle socket failures | [07:04] |
| diana_coman: | spyked: huh, still or even worse torrent of work? kind of interesting how this goes with "everything-but-not-quite stopped" otherwise, | [07:34] |
| spyked: | it's a tad better than last month, but still pouring in. latest events caused a change in priorities, so the number of people in the project went down and so on, and so the torrent inevitably propagated | [07:38] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/24/mirroring-the-vtools-v-tree/ << Ossa Sepia -- Mirroring the Vtools V-tree | [12:44] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/24/ossasepia-logs-for-23-Apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 23 Apr 2020 | [16:24] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/24/ossasepia-logs-for-24-Apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 24 Apr 2020 | [16:33] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2020/suburra/ << Trilema -- Suburra | [16:48] |
| feedbot: | http://younghands.club/2020/04/24/jfw-review-week-of-20-apr-2020/ << Young Hands Club -- JFW review, week of 20 Apr 2020 | [18:01] |
| jfw: | waves | [18:01] |
| jfw: | diana_coman: as I see you've maintained it from the blog-log style on trilema, what's the reason behind that character-level wrapping? Am I the only one who finds it a bit... jarring? | [18:05] |
| jfw: | maybe blame it on English for having whitespace delimiters significant to decoding/phonetics, but, they are | [18:08] |
| jfw: | recalls Tom Lehrer, "And you may have thought it tragic / Not to mention other adjec / tives to think of all the weeping they will do!" | [18:09] |
| jfw: | hm,ypiensoqueenespanollosespaciossonimportantestambien,peronose,quizaspuedaaclimatarseconunapocapractica | [18:13] |
| diana_coman: | jfw: I couldn't find a solution that is not-jarring; it's also a matter of reader's screen /display so not even something I can actually fully control from my side really. | [18:24] |
| jfw: | I haven't minded the full-width logs, but doesn't work with a narrow fixed-width blog style I guess | [18:25] |
| diana_coman: | lettuce experiment anyway, 1 min | [18:26] |
| diana_coman: | jfw: spot the diff & does it look any better? | [18:29] |
| jfw: | it no longer wraps within words but the justified alignment makes for some big gaps | [18:29] |
| diana_coman: | that's jarring number 2, indeed | [18:30] |
| diana_coman: | hence my earlier "couldn't find a solution that is not-jarring"; just different versions of jarring | [18:30] |
| jfw: | how about giving it more width to work with by having the timestamps inline or hover-only and less or no hanging indent? | [18:31] |
| diana_coman: | do you mean text under the speaker's name? | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | atm it's tabled so it's easy to follow who said what | [18:32] |
| jfw: | yeah looked like a table | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | the timestamps could go perhaps on the name indeed, that wouldn't be a problem | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | but anyway, moving the timestamps away would expand the line a bit, not terribly much | [18:35] |
| diana_coman: | possibly a bit better anyway; and moreover the timestamps as such are rather meaningless anyway | [18:36] |
| diana_coman: | come to think of it - if someone comes in with a nickname awijpetiojp3etj3ptojoq3jtpq3otj3potjqp3otjqp3otjqp3otjq3topj3t3qtpoj3qo3tj , the poor table is fully fucked | [18:37] |
| diana_coman: | though I think freenode has a limit on nickname length | [18:37] |
| jfw: | probably but yeah. | [18:38] |
| jfw: | well, looks great in 'links' at least, since that doesn't do the fixed-width css, heh | [18:38] |
| diana_coman: | that's the spirit! | [18:38] |
| diana_coman: | tbh my own theme used to have \% which I find way more reasonable since it doesn't restrict user's screen to whatever number of pixels; but myeah, the themes coming with mpwp were what they were and never quite sunk the time to fully port it; (I don't like css/html that much either) | [18:44] |
| jfw: | I was going to say 'dillo' looked good too, but no, it makes a mess of normal articles. CSS seems to be an all-or-nothing thing. | [18:45] |
| diana_coman: | possibly by the end of this it'll annoy me enough to change the theme too, can be. | [18:49] |
| jfw: | you want to really get annoyed, check the older articles with code like http://ossasepia.com/2018/02/01/eucrypt-chapter-8-bit-level-keccak-sponge/ | [18:51] |
| diana_coman: | gah | [18:52] |
| diana_coman: | it looks like something I'd need to go systematically through if it's to get sorted; iirc there were some wild pics too. | [18:55] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, what's with the zoom-fad all over the world | [18:55] |
| jfw: | skype not cool enough anymore apparently? | [18:56] |
| diana_coman: | eh, skype has been uncool for several years at least for sure; but what I can't get my head around is why just...one; it's like fashion-dream, dunno | [18:57] |
| diana_coman: | and initially I thought maybe it was just ...local, uk-madness; but apparently not so truly...pandemic, I guess; the zoom-infection. | [18:57] |
| jfw: | viral marketing! | [18:58] |
| diana_coman: | by next year it will be forgotten too (and rediscovered with a different name, to restart with the problems etc, ofc) | [18:58] |
| jfw: | just by the time someone will have cooked up a half-working open sores client | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | by now it's probably enough a quarter-working, it evolved! | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | tbf probably it looks/works great by comparison to facebook or similar. | [19:01] |
| jfw: | worked fine in my testing, and might help that it's a paid thing | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | oh, is it? I'm quite sure I saw some free version, maybe it was limited. | [19:04] |
| diana_coman: | admits she didn't really want to see much of it at all. | [19:05] |
| jfw: | what I saw was free to join meetings but needs an account to host them | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | I half-expect the child's school will discover the greatness of zoom any time soon, so I'll find out all about it. | [19:10] |
| jfw: | quite possible. | [19:11] |
| diana_coman: | jfw: takeaways look good to me (even biting the insurance!!) | [19:14] |
| jfw: | thanks | [19:14] |
| diana_coman: | just hm, maybe do push the writing back into some ...working gear? | [19:14] |
| jfw: | yeah and preferably not reverse. | [19:15] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, indeed! | [19:15] |
| diana_coman: | will be back tomorrow. | [19:18] |
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