| jfw: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Oct-2019#1004867 - at risk of stating the obvious, the theme is new. Poking at it a bit, I see on some pages (http://younghands.club/2019/09/week-12-plan-sep-30-oct-6/) the comment form stretches outside the background box and there's a gap above the footer background image; but not so on other pages | [00:11] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-09 12:06:39 diana_coman: I've restored from own backup and as far as I can see there's no loss; let me know if you spot any trouble though | [00:11] |
| jfw: | (http://younghands.club/2019/10/review-of-sept-29th-oct-9th/) | [00:11] |
| jfw: | More practically, I see from archive there used to be a "Written by" at the top. And, goodness, something is spilling all over in http://younghands.club/category/shreyas_ragavan/ | [00:17] |
| jfw: | http://archive.is/xAWMs - same as what I'm seeing. Looks fine in 'links' though! | [00:20] |
| jfw: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-08-Oct-2019#1004844 - it sure is :[ | [00:22] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-08 07:15:48 diana_coman: the avoidance by hard work; it's a thing too. | [00:22] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: ask that Mia to register a key and come here, what; she's interested in finance after all, isn't she? invite her over. | [03:22] |
| diana_coman: | jfw: those were some tweaks to the theme I recall; it's somewhere down the list but yes. | [03:23] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: well done, looking forward to seeing your blog back + travel posts & pics later today. | [03:35] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes: let me know if you want me to dump somewhere that cobbled-up awk script from when I hunted a line; I don't even recall directly the state of it but problem was solved. | [03:36] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes: and happy 32nd birthday! | [03:36] |
| diana_coman: | apparently the easiest re younghands.club theme is to simply switch it over to the "classic" that I was using on my blog too; so now it looks like ossasepia did, lolz. | [04:14] |
| diana_coman: | it will do for now. | [04:14] |
| diana_coman: | btw if any of you is any good making a wordpress theme, speak up. | [04:15] |
| whaack: | http://ztkfg.com/ is alive again. for some reason i do not have the format toolbar on adding a new post, and uploading images (via the web interface) does not work. These are both problems i was traveling, so it leads me to believe i have some issue with htaccess files on my new server. | [08:33] |
| whaack: | these are both problems i had while traveling* | [08:54] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: the html format was never really supported by mp-wp; is that what you're looking for? | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | I think billymg cut it out entirely in the last patch too so probably if you pressed all the way to it, there is none of that | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: why upload them via the web interface anyway? scp is surely faster esp if you have a bunch of photos | [08:57] |
| whaack: | yup, no real need for uploading via the web interface. only useful aspect for the web interface is it i believe it automatically creates folders for archiving by date | [08:59] |
| whaack: | re html format not supported, okay cool. right i remember now billymg writing about getting rid of the gui. | [09:01] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: so make yourself a script that does that too, what | [09:02] |
| whaack: | then the last little issue i have is some css i have to get back since the code in http://ztkfg.com/2019/05/ch-22-hierarchical-data-and-the-closure-property/ overflows off the page | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | that is theme-related but it can probably wait atm | [09:03] |
| whaack: | okay. i think the first order of business is creating the cron task for backing up my blog. | [09:04] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: what's your new IP? | [09:05] |
| whaack: | 198.211.113.164 | [09:06] |
| diana_coman: | yep, that is a sensible no 1; and otherwise, it's precisely the ranking of stuff by importance that matters; not everything is just as important at any given time and your time is limited so it should be carefully spent rather than carelessly. | [09:07] |
| diana_coman: | hello crowncloud | [10:01] |
| crowncloud: | Hey, just saw the email | [10:01] |
| diana_coman: | glad you made it crowncloud | [10:01] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud: would you be able to register a key with deedbot? http://deedbot.org/help.html | [10:02] |
| crowncloud: | having a look now | [10:03] |
| diana_coman: | ask if you get stuck or anything | [10:03] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: stop flying, yo! | [10:04] |
| whaack: | heh XD | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud: it's a bit more than that but yes, it has wallet + invoicing + deeds + voice in #t | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | you can talk here, there's no problem | [10:06] |
| crowncloud: | ah okay | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud: there will be quite a few people around here interested if you can make it work | [10:07] |
| crowncloud: | re: servers, currently we've got Intel Dual L5520's in stock | [10:07] |
| crowncloud: | with 72G RAM each | [10:07] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud: would you be able to colocate? | [10:07] |
| diana_coman: | I saw you have datacentres in Europe and the USA? | [10:08] |
| crowncloud: | colocation currently we've got it available at Los Angeles, USA | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | are you based in LA? | [10:09] |
| crowncloud: | no -- our datacenter partner is in LA :) | [10:09] |
| diana_coman: | ah, I see; I did think crowncloud was australian | [10:09] |
| diana_coman: | hello Metronix | [10:10] |
| Metronix: | Helli diana_coman, I here in responding to your email. | [10:11] |
| Metronix: | *hello | [10:11] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: which company are you with? | [10:11] |
| Metronix: | Thanks for contacting metroworldhost.com | [10:11] |
| Metronix: | diana_coman: I am from metroworldhost.com | [10:12] |
| diana_coman: | ah, welcome Metronix, glad you made it; can you register a key with deedbot please? see http://deedbot.org/help.html | [10:12] |
| Metronix: | Sure things diana_coman. While I am registering to the deedbot. Would you mind if I asking you some questions in responding your email? | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: go ahead | [10:14] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: ask anything | [10:17] |
| Metronix: | First, regarding to your questions about the AMD Dedicated Server, I need to inform you that the AMD processors is not available. we only have dedicated servers with Intel's processor. | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: all right; would you be able to colocate our own servers though? | [10:18] |
| Metronix: | Regarding colocation server, we are sorry to inform you that for this time colocation service is not available yet. | [10:22] |
| Metronix: | I will let you know when it's ready | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: are you working towards it? when is it planned to become available? | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: if you register your key and hang around, there might still be something working out. | [10:24] |
| Metronix: | Yes, I am working towards it. Our current collocation space is full for this time and I need to order more racks in by the next months | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: ok; regarding the amd dedicated servers - would you be able to order them for us, if you don't have any? | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud: how's it going? | [10:25] |
| crowncloud: | ah just setup irssi now | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | heh, nice. | [10:26] |
| crowncloud: | i'd rather use hexchat but then i'd need ZNC working. miight just do that instead | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | fwiw I'm on irssi; but any way that works so you stay connected is fine with me. | [10:27] |
| Metronix: | Could you please tell me what is the specific specs that you need? | [10:27] |
| Metronix: | *processor spec | [10:27] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: there are several machines and several people; atm you don't seem to have the capacity for what we want | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: mind giving Metronix your concrete specs for an amd box? | [10:29] |
| Metronix: | Yep | [10:30] |
| Metronix: | If you don't mind I will ask my partner for the AMD Servers | [10:30] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: for which is this box to be use, diana_coman ? they had diff specs | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: I thought you wanted a box for yourself too? or not? | [10:31] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: i wanted ~my~ box from uy, with FG, raid, that i personally built. | [10:31] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: if you're buying for self, you should already know the specs ? | [10:31] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: ok; so you are interested in colo only. | [10:31] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: correct | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: yes, I know for self but there it's colo. | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | heh, ok | [10:32] |
| Metronix: | I see | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: don't dispair, lol. | [10:33] |
| Metronix: | haha, I try to help if possible | [10:33] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: if you need help to spec box for self & others, will help. keep in mind e.g. this. | [10:33] |
| ossabot: | (trilema) 2019-10-08 asciilifeform: diana_coman: here is how FGs went in machine, if this helps. if that space aint there (and in most boxes, in asciilifeform's experience, it aint) then can only put'em by e.g. forgoing raid card and using that space. or in 5in. disk slot (which most also lack.) | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: what do you have available for dedicated? | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: yes; atm though I'm snowed in with getting stuff back online + eulora, hence building a box took a back seat; I will ping though when I get to that, thank you. | [10:34] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: your smg box was iirc this. | [10:34] |
| ossabot: | (trilema) 2018-02-05 asciilifeform: (1) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | actually that's an idea, why not | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: that spec would work great ^ | [10:35] |
| Metronix: | Here is the spec list which is ready for right now: https://metronix.co.id/member/cart.php?gid=14 | [10:35] |
| Metronix: | 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G | [10:36] |
| Metronix: | ^ is it the required spec? | [10:36] |
| Metronix: | Let me check it to my partner | [10:36] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: yes, that's the required spec. | [10:37] |
| Metronix: | Would you mind to wait? I will let you know if I got any good news | [10:38] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: there's no rush at all; just register that key so that I know it's still you if you disconnect and otherwise if you can leave the chat on, it would work great | [10:40] |
| diana_coman: | not everybody is at their keyboards right now but people read the logs. | [10:41] |
| Metronix: | Okay | [10:41] |
| Metronix: | I am learning to create the key | [10:41] |
| Metronix: | Please wait.. | [10:41] |
| Metronix: | I launch a VPS to generate a gpg key lol | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: that's not a very good idea | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | you need to *keep* the private key *safe* and *not lose it* | [10:42] |
| Metronix: | Ah I see | [10:42] |
| Metronix: | So I could generate it on my Windows PC? | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | it is your identity as far as I'm concerned | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: you could, though it's a bit dubious that the pc is *yours* if you have windows on it | [10:43] |
| diana_coman: | but yes, use Kleopatra | [10:43] |
| Metronix: | Ah I see | [10:43] |
| diana_coman: | where was that link for the step-by-step thing even | [10:43] |
| whaack: | diana_coman: the airgapping guide? | [10:43] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: no, it was specifically to create a gpg key, iirc used for eulora | [10:44] |
| whaack: | does not know of this guide | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | heh, whaack ^ | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: you need only to make the key from there, no need to register with eulora too (though you *can*, if you want to, lol) | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: otherwise just look for a tutorial for Kleopatra I guess | [10:45] |
| crowncloud_: | hmm deedbot keeps saying "deedbot> Import failed for <url to public key>" | [10:48] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: use paste.deedbot.org | [10:48] |
| diana_coman: | paste there the public key | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | and give that url to deedbot | [10:49] |
| crowncloud_: | mhm same thing, !!register http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=<my-id-here> | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: not your key id | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | go to paste.deedbot.org paste in there your *public* key | [10:50] |
| crowncloud_: | yup the .ssh/id_rsa.pub value right | [10:50] |
| Metronix: | Which one is the public key? | [10:51] |
| Metronix: | http://prntscr.com/phguh9 | [10:51] |
| crowncloud_: | make a backup of the key-pair, 1 will be .pub thats the one usually | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: the content of the .pub file e.g. http://wot.deedbot.org/E72DCCB73A5E06694C5CD781D5196EE6390F999E.asc | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: the .pub is for public aka yes, the public key; the other you should keep secret; and crowncloud_ is right, make a backup at the very least, lol. | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: can you give me the paste.deedbot url you are trying to feed to deedbot? | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: it should be something like paste.deebot.org/?id=O-6u | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | aka 4 chars, not your key id | [10:54] |
| crowncloud_: | ah yep got it, i was using the ssh public key haha generating a gpg one now | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: ha; gpg key, yes. | [10:56] |
| whaack: | Metronix: re your pic, the fingerprint does not need to be kept secret. It is a hash of your public key. My blog actually displays my fingerprint prominently under my handle http://ztkfg.com/ | [10:56] |
| Metronix: | I see | [10:57] |
| Metronix: | I already get the public key | [10:57] |
| Metronix: | and the private key | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: keep the private key for yourself and yourself ONLY | [10:57] |
| Metronix: | Well noted | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | with the public key, go to paste.deedbot.org and paste there the contents; it should start with ----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK as in http://wot.deedbot.org/E72DCCB73A5E06694C5CD781D5196EE6390F999E.asc | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | once you paste it there, you'll get an url and you feed that to deedbot | [10:58] |
| Metronix: | !!register | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: to deedbot, not in here | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | go /msg deedbot !!register your-url | [10:59] |
| Metronix: | deedbot 20:57:37 | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: hm? | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: you did it, well done! | [11:01] |
| Metronix: | I am done registering | [11:01] |
| Metronix: | Yep, finally :)) | [11:01] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: how come you ran out of space in the dc, lol? | [11:02] |
| Metronix: | I am sharing space with my partner | [11:03] |
| Metronix: | And I need to wait for my partner to order more space | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: so who is your partner? | [11:04] |
| Metronix: | my own brother lol | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | so then why have to wait? lol | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | did it fill unexpectedly or what? | [11:05] |
| Metronix: | Recently we got so many order from a local company | [11:06] |
| Metronix: | They already book lot of space | [11:06] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: that's good though, no/ | [11:06] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [11:06] |
| Metronix: | including my brother company | [11:06] |
| diana_coman: | heh, he overflowed his own associate-isp or what | [11:07] |
| Metronix: | Indonesian data centre is very limited for this time | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: so do you have plans to expand further afield then? | [11:07] |
| Metronix: | I need to look up for a newer dc | [11:07] |
| Metronix: | yep | [11:07] |
| Metronix: | but still counting for the cost of expanding | [11:08] |
| diana_coman: | well, better look for them before you really need them urgently, by the sounds of it | [11:08] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: that's no reason not to collect all the data and have a clear plan upfront though. | [11:08] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: what data centre are you with currently? | [11:08] |
| Metronix: | Cyber Data Center Cyber Building 2nd Floor Jl. Kuningan Barat No.8 Jakarta Selatan 12710, Indonesia | [11:09] |
| Metronix: | That's my dc location | [11:09] |
| Metronix: | lot of hosting company right there | [11:10] |
| Metronix: | and the dc is a little bit crowded :)) | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | Metronix: for how long have you been with them? | [11:10] |
| Metronix: | since 2010 lol | [11:10] |
| Metronix: | I already know everyone on the dc. | [11:10] |
| Metronix: | by the way, I got to go | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | in that time, I'd expect you do indeed. | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | ok, feel free to leave the chat on and come back later | [11:11] |
| Metronix: | i will come back later | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | the chan is logged too so you can catch up with anything anyway | [11:11] |
| Metronix: | it's already 9pm in Indonesia | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | ah; good night then! | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: how's that rsa key making? | [11:11] |
| Metronix: | You could email me to ryo@metroworld.co.id | [11:11] |
| Metronix: | See you later | [11:12] |
| crowncloud_: | yep all done | [11:13] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: ah, you registered it from crowncloud_ | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | works for me | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | I'll rate you a bit later today and then you'll have access to #trilema too | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: what dedicated servers do you have available and where? | [11:17] |
| crowncloud_: | currently, we could do 2-3x of Intel Dual Xeon L5520 / 72 GB RAM @ Los Angeles, California | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | los angeles is a bit iffy for sending machines really but I'll look into it anyway. | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: can you put gentoo with python 2.7 (NOT older) + gcc 4.9 (not older) on them? | [11:19] |
| crowncloud_: | I could get you a KVMoverIP on it (remote-console thing with ISO mount support) and you can install any operating system on them you like :) | [11:19] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: your site lists some servers in atlanta too; what's that? | [11:19] |
| crowncloud_: | yeah Atlanta, Georgia, USA / US - East | [11:19] |
| diana_coman: | eh, my likes don't quite include another ton of operating systems really if I can help it | [11:20] |
| diana_coman: | atlanta might at least be closer to some people, I'll have to ask | [11:20] |
| crowncloud_: | could do a Dual Intel Xeon E5620 @ 2.4Ghz / 12GB GB RAM | [11:20] |
| crowncloud_: | there | [11:20] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: for a current emergency it might work; what OS *can* you install on it so I don't have to do that too? | [11:21] |
| crowncloud_: | We usually do the common ones like CentOS 6/7/8, Debian 8/9/10, Ubuntu 16.04/18.04/19.04/19.10 | [11:22] |
| diana_coman: | ah, centos 6 can work for the emergency, yes. | [11:22] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: can you get http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-02-05#1781749 ? | [11:22] |
| ossabot: | (trilema) 2018-02-05 asciilifeform: (1) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G | [11:22] |
| crowncloud_: | could something newer in AMD could work? AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX ? | [11:24] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: mind joining #trilema please? there's Mircea Popescu who wants to talk to you (he's the CEO of Minigame, among other things) | [11:25] |
| crowncloud_: | benchmarks at 23163 vs 10405 of the Opeteron | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: reasons are complicated why I prefer older, not to do with benchmarks. | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | crowncloud_: please join #trilema and we'll get back to this later; I'll probably take an Intel for now anyway. | [11:26] |
| crowncloud_: | aha | [11:26] |
| crowncloud_: | ok am there. | [11:26] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: do you have anywhere/can I have an image of what you installed on the s.mg machines? as it's on older, frozen version of gentoo, I'm not sure I can reproduce it exactly otherwise. | [13:31] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: i'ma look to see what is most recent backup of this | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | fwiw I'm still digesting #t logs. | [13:38] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: can you get BingoBoingo to plug in your smg box in his pad to access ? my backup here seems to be missing that tarball (it was huge, apparently got aborted during load) and as ill-luck has it, the other copy is on dulap disks, which i already had him mail... | [13:41] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: it is also my understanding that hanbot has a copy. | [13:42] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: and for some reason i thought you had already moved to proper cuntoo ? | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: no, it was proto-cuntoo, remember? the "proper cuntoo" didn't really move past the genesis & tarballs | [13:43] |
| asciilifeform: | grr | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: at any rate, there are 2 servers and the production one still carries all dependencies so it won't compile on cuntoo for sure | [13:44] |
| thimbronion: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-10-Oct-2019#1004972 << will ask. I saw you recommended Kleopatra. Any other recommendations for getting noobs through the process on a windows machine? | [13:44] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-10 03:22:29 diana_coman: thimbronion: ask that Mia to register a key and come here, what; she's interested in finance after all, isn't she? invite her over. | [13:44] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: if it cannot be quickly found, i'ma rebake it for you from 0 for phree, plz lemme know. | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | for the dev one, when I'm done trimming *all* mess, it should work, but still. | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: does it take a lot to rebake? | [13:45] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: takes a day. | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: what are *you* doing on a windows machine? | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: ugh. | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | what do you rebake it from? | [13:45] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: I am not on a windows machine, she is. | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: who? Mia? | [13:46] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: gentoo 2015. | [13:46] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: yes | [13:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | diana_coman asciilifeform: I am willing a maneuver to help the OS image's recovery. Think of concrete instructions on how you want to get the image off. Mind that the speed at which data leaves my present connection over prolonged transfers is slow and prone to reset when Antel blinks me on to new IP address | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: there is that tutorial on eulorum, I linked it earlier for one of the isp guys, that's about it | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: kleopatra and gpg4win, usually even the most noobish people managed to follow but you might still need to hold her hand over it | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | BingoBoingo: that's a bit last option , I'd say; thank you; atm I'm rummaging to see if I have any gentoo 2015 | [13:47] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: boot from stick (one that understands raid, bv's should work) and dd if=/dev/sda gzip /mnt/aspare1tbssd/image.gz . then sftp to diana_coman's current temp box. | [13:47] |
| asciilifeform: | err, gzip -c | [13:48] |
| diana_coman: | I found a 2014, lol | [13:49] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: That solution's going to have be done tomorrow at the earliest. Involves either wheeling box or acquiring some sort of monitor. Maybe be able to do it getting a cable to adapt it display to the tv. Absolutely NOT using the bv bootstick except as an absolute last resort. | [13:53] |
| diana_coman: | BingoBoingo: aha, don't do that please; | [13:53] |
| diana_coman: | hm, I have 2014 and I have 2016, lolz; anyway, I'll try to work with what I have. | [13:54] |
| BingoBoingo: | also disinclined to power on servers in environment with long barely visible Latina hairs that appear about as fast as they can be swept. | [13:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | can put servers at height above where here head maxes, but... | [14:01] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: plox to try, it is almost certainly faster than the other options to help diana_coman | [14:05] |
| asciilifeform: | curses the shit pipe again, this thing oughta 100\% have been in the autobackup | [14:06] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: Willing to try, but at least a tomorrow task at the earliest | [14:06] |
| diana_coman: | BingoBoingo: asciilifeform I would just leave it, really; I'll set it up on what I have and see how it works out since if it really doesn't, I might have a bigger problem anyway. | [14:26] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: ok | [14:26] |
| diana_coman: | thank you, I really do appreciate the offer though. | [14:26] |
| diana_coman: | I'm a bit tired so it might not come across properly but I do. | [14:26] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: offer stands, plox to ping asap if needed so i can begin preparation | [14:26] |
| diana_coman: | thanks, I will. | [14:27] |
| asciilifeform: | hey diana_coman i found it | [14:49] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: do you want it ? | [14:49] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: i'ma upload to ancient host, but may take hr or so | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: yes! | [15:08] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: uploaded ! writing instructions nao | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | thank you. | [15:08] |
| asciilifeform: | ( afaik no one other than myself has fired this thing, so i'ma have to explain how ) | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | please do, yes. | [15:12] |
| asciilifeform: | proofreading instructions, will post shortly. | [15:32] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944670 . | [15:42] |
| ossabot: | (trilema) 2019-10-10 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/dulap_construction_kit.txt | [15:42] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: tarball url inside. | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | I'll get on it, thank you asciilifeform | [15:43] |
| asciilifeform: | np diana_coman . please do not hesitate to ask q, the instructions were written hastily and may contain mistake. | [15:43] |
| diana_coman: | will do. | [15:43] |
| diana_coman: | I might get to follow them tomorrow only, with a fresh(er) mind. | [15:44] |
| asciilifeform: | aite. | [15:44] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: i neglected to include 'regen yer ssh hostkey' but imho this is obvious to ~erryone. | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | at least everyone here, hopefully yes. | [15:52] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: it is possible to 'emerge' packages on a machine filled with this. but under no circumstances run 'emerge --sync' . | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: aha. | [15:55] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: packages for whom the mirrors have fallen down , can be taken from trinque's collection and placed in /usr/portage/distfiles , and will then emerge. | [15:55] |
| asciilifeform: | dulap-gentoo is a wartime creation and considered -- obsolete. but i have been using it. | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | I think by now *that* might be just about the only potential trouble really; ie if some needed package meanwhile became unobtainable. | [15:56] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: do not hesitate to ask for tarballs that for some reason cannot be found in trinque's, i will pull'em from tapes. | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | will do. | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: what's your plan re yuour blog, I don't recall? | [16:16] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: the plan was to have it back up by Sunday eod. I have retrieved my backups, so things are looking good. I'm probably going to put it on digitalocean for now, until I can find something better. | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: ok; just remember that Sunday eod is also deadline for the plan + review anyway. | [16:19] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: i am considering to house 4u of irons incl. new rk plant experimentally in bmor at own risk & expense. will see whether anyone wants in, otherwise will e.g. trb. | [16:19] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: I ran into an issue while pressing mp-wp: http://paste.deedbot.org/ | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: you forgot the actual paste? | [16:21] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: yes, it is getting a bit tight to be getting the blog up, writing a new plan and review, and finishing the summary review on Sunday. | [16:21] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=mch3 | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: are you using a keccak V? | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | because that looks like you are not. | [16:23] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: I am not | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | all vpatches currently in use are meant to use keccak hashes. | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: do you have a keccak V? | [16:23] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: I don't | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: why didn't you want to do that when mp asked but you want to do it now? I'm confused; maybe I still did not digest the #t logs. | [16:24] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: he wanted whole cabinet. i cannot cover cost of cabinet + pipes to cabinet's worth of machines atm. | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | but the way I read it, you weren't meant to personally cover it anyway; and the "asked" was esp re list of items because now it seems you actually have at least 4u of irons, possibly more? | [16:25] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: it is very easy to obtain irons. the part where barf is 'here's pile of btc, convert it to what dc eats.' presently i do not have a reliable means for this. | [16:26] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: if/when can find this missing instrument, can get rack, or even multiple racks. | [16:27] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: but atm i cannot attest to the quality of this machine park, it has to be tested . | [16:27] |
| asciilifeform: | there is only 1 way to test. | [16:28] |
| whaack: | thimbronion: lmk if you have any issues with setup on digitalocean. I used ubuntu 18, the default mysql from apt-get, and php5.6 | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect you sometimes barf a bit too early really; and can't quite expect one confronted with barf to then also wait for what might follow. | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: yuuuuuck | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: I suppose you also installed latest wordpress though, didn't you? | [16:29] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: i'ma proceed w/ reconnaissance by fire re bmr , at own risk. | [16:29] |
| whaack: | no, using mpwp | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: I get it; just... it so seems you are making it harder for yourself at every juncture, sigh. | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: ok, at least that. | [16:30] |
| whaack: | i didn't use any of their one-click things through their web portal, although apt-get is ~same thing | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | yeah and ubuntu 18 is already rather dog-food but anyways. | [16:31] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: can you point me to where I can get a keccak v? | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: let me upload it to younghands.club | [16:32] |
| whaack: | i think ubuntu 16 was the earliest version they had | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | it used to live on my blog, sigh. | [16:32] |
| whaack: | i considered going with centos, but i have not used it before and didn't want to get stuck during desperate times | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | whaack: that makes sense at least, yes. | [16:37] |
| diana_coman: | and on looking again I think I read "python" instead of php hence ultra-barfed on the version. | [16:37] |
| whaack: | LOL | [16:37] |
| whaack: | i guess it is not inconceivable that reddit would have reached some v5.6 for python by now | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion see http://younghands.club/v-trees/ | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | anyone else interested, the v_keccak starter zip + my sig for it is ^ | [16:42] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: thanks | [16:45] |
| thimbronion: | diana_coman: I'm unable to build gprbuild on my gentoo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Rf_N. I'm wondering if you've run into this before? | [16:55] |
| thimbronion: | oh hmm. actually that just means I neede to pick a use flag... | [16:58] |
| thimbronion: | Is there a preference between gnat_2016 and gnat_2017? | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: no, you need a gnat,lol | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: go with 2016 | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | it's anyway not fully sure it will work properly since it's probably not adacore's | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | dang, I'll have to upload *that* too,won't I | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | thimbronion: go with 2016 and see | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | will be back tomorrow | [17:07] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-10#1004974 << I'd love a copy of said script, but pls don't feel the need to rush. I've got many omelettes to push out of the kitchen in the meantime | [20:51] |
| ericbot: | Logged on 2019-10-10 06:35:54 diana_coman: lobbes: let me know if you want me to dump somewhere that cobbled-up awk script from when I hunted a line; I don't even recall directly the state of it but problem was solved. | [20:51] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-10#1004975 << ty btw | [20:51] |
| ericbot: | Logged on 2019-10-10 06:36:09 diana_coman: lobbes: and happy 32nd birthday! | [20:51] |
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