| diana_coman: | lobbes: did you ever saw the questions/feedback of yesterday? | [08:43] |
| lobbes: | diana_coman: where was this again? blog or in a castle? If you point me, I will read | [08:56] |
| lobbes: | or perhaps already read! | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | here; not yet in the logs as the bot was not yet on | [09:05] |
| diana_coman: | lemme fish it out | [09:05] |
| diana_coman: | 11:36 diana_coman: lobbes, looking through your http://blog.lobbesblog.com/category/reporting/ posts there are 2 things that strike me: 1. some seem to just slip off without clarity as to what happened/what's your decision there (e.g. pizarro ads - did you hit a wall with it? did you postpone it (when/what)? did you abandon it? what exactly is it and from what specific causes?) 2. it doesn't seem all that clear/pointed anywhere: how do yo | [09:06] |
| lobbes: | ty, this is exactly the feedback I seek. Yes, I think you have a point there. I have this habit of not being clear in both my causes, and my results it seems | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes: did the above get cut? or is it just the logger? | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | it read: clear/pointed anywhere: how do you choose your hopper items anyway? | [09:21] |
| lobbes: | it was indeed cut | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | kk; at least no bug to report re logger, heh. | [09:22] |
| lobbes: | re: how do I choose... I think I try and go with whatever seems the 'most pressing need for the republic that I can also do with the skills I have' | [09:24] |
| lobbes: | but perhaps I need to refine my choosing methods here. problem with the pressing need qualifier is that needs are always changing by nature | [09:24] |
| diana_coman: | aha; and that you keep the whole thing entirely out of yourself which is not that good for building yourself up | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | basically yes, answer the trumpet calls by all means but that shouldn't be *all* you do | [09:27] |
| lobbes: | this is very true. I guess I have trouble knowing when I should ignore certain calls | [09:28] |
| lobbes: | and when I should just stick to what I'm currently working on | [09:28] |
| diana_coman: | the 1st point is to build yourself up as roundely as possible (and as a side effect this will inevitably *also* position you in a much better place to help/answer pressing needs) | [09:29] |
| diana_coman: | I don't know if it's about ignoring really, I wouldn't go that far; but for one thing pressing needs can't really make for a full, sane path just in themselves, it's a bit like living for emergencies only | [09:31] |
| lobbes: | this makes sense | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | and for the other thing offering is not just a "good intentions" thing - it's a commitment | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | for that matter it's rather easy to end up in hot soup *because of * good intentions (that were just that, wanted to but had poorly evaluated/bit more than could chew) | [09:32] |
| lobbes: | yeah, I think the Inca state likes to breed this sort of "a good worker says yes to *everythin*" kind of toxic thinking | [09:32] |
| diana_coman: | there is some space for "bit sligthly more so as to motivate and advance faster" but it has to be still a considered choice I'd say | [09:33] |
| lobbes: | yeah, that's kind of it too. I figured that I need to grow, so I'd challenge myself. Buuut I don't think I thought things through enough in most cases | [09:33] |
| diana_coman: | quite possibly yes, I can see that (a combination of "saying yes is easy" + "no real consequences if not delivering" + "works means sort of ") | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | growth yes, but it has to build on where you are, it can't just jump 10 levels up all of a sudden "because that's what's needed right now" | [09:35] |
| lobbes: | speaking of work that has no real consquences of not delivering, I got to head to the mines. BUT thank you very much already for helping me think through this stuff. It is appreciated | [09:35] |
| lobbes: | and yeah, realistic growth is the key, huh | [09:35] |
| lobbes: | I will be reading these logs now that they exist! | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | in other words: the world (and tasks) is not flat and if you don't even see the mountain, it just means you are actually ...underground, not yet at ground level even | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | kk | [09:36] |
| shrysr: | diana_coman: i see some glimpses of the mountains from my underground lair | [10:39] |
| diana_coman: | shrysr: so come out to the light! heh | [10:44] |
| shrysr: | trying to! what did lobbes mean by heading to the mines ? | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | shrysr: he went to his place of employment aka "the mines" ; also known as "the slave galley" | [10:48] |
| diana_coman: | if you are not familiar with it, salt mines (and rock quaries or similarly hard labour) was done with convicts mainly/only | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | you call your salt mines "the office" iirc | [10:49] |
| shrysr: | ah. I did not know it was done mainly/only with convicts | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | european history; USA equivalent would be cotton-picking (aka slave labour, obv) | [10:51] |
| shrysr: | :D yes i do call it the office/. | [10:53] |
| shrysr: | diana_coman: did you get a pingback notification? | [14:57] |
| shrysr: | I see you got my earlier pingback for http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/30/my-first-2-years-as-cto-for-minigame/ ... did you get another just now ? | [14:59] |
| asciilifeform: | shrysr: 'salt mine' is traditional parlance for where (usually) programmer does ultimately pointless, backbreaking sweat, so as to pay for food/flat. (an especially odious saltmine may be next level, 'gulag', see e.g. .) | [15:02] |
| diana_coman: | shrysr: no notification of it at least; also no notification of your post - did you change your rss link for posts and/or comments? | [15:16] |
| shrysr: | diana_coman: how about just now? its just a test, for another article | [15:29] |
| shrysr: | the rss may have changed.. right now it is http://s.ragavan.co/index.xml i tried this on my feedreader and it works | [15:30] |
| shrysr: | diana_coman: it should be working actually >> see my webmention linking on this post https://scripter.co/splitting-an-org-block-into-two/#webmentions | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | shrysr: eh, so what, you imagine I jump and change every time you futz it about ? | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | will bblx01 | [15:39] |
| shrysr: | :( futz it about is so crude ... i am making it awsome ! wtffffffff | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | fff is for futz-futz-futz, obv | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | but seriously, either you get the rss links to what they were or whatever, I'll see it when it happens. | [17:13] |
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