| ReadErr: | greetings | [03:24] |
| ReadErr: | new player looking to register with mircea_popescu | [03:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr one sec. | [03:24] |
| ReadErr: | sure np | [03:25] |
| ReadErr: | burning time @ work anyways ;) | [03:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vbQgr/?raw=true | [03:27] |
| ReadErr: | thanks, still reading things over not got to login part yet | [03:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol mkay | [03:29] |
| ReadErr: | alright think its downloading at the login screen now | [04:09] |
| ReadErr: | is the email the one associated with the public key? | [04:09] |
| ReadErr: | well I thought it was anyways, it seems to be changing randomly now though | [04:12] |
| ReadErr: | oh the paste, forgot | [04:12] |
| danielpbarron: | no email, use the username encrypted to your key | [04:14] |
| ReadErr: | got it | [04:24] |
| ReadErr: | need to figure out how to let it go fullscreen | [04:24] |
| ReadErr: | guess avoid using the launcher ? | [04:24] |
| danielpbarron: | alt enter | [04:25] |
| danielpbarron: | feel free to hack the client tho | [04:26] |
| danielpbarron: | you can do everything we can do, but if you wanna level up you'll need to buy skills from other players | [04:27] |
| danielpbarron: | or i guess you can technically get skill items without us, but it's not very likely | [04:27] |
| danielpbarron: | what's your character name btw? | [04:28] |
| ReadErr: | it assigned me one name Eva | [04:29] |
| danielpbarron: | are you a girl? | [04:29] |
| danielpbarron: | hehe | [04:29] |
| ReadErr: | Eva Justicegorge | [04:30] |
| danielpbarron: | hahahahah | [04:30] |
| ReadErr: | I guess so lol, didnt see a button to make one | [04:30] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah you don't get to choose anymore | [04:30] |
| danielpbarron: | in the long run it doesn't matter, you can eventually make offspring | [04:31] |
| ReadErr: | hmm alt-enter isnt doing it | [04:34] |
| danielpbarron: | shrugs | [04:34] |
| ReadErr: | lemme try on linux | [04:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | these names are fucking epic | [04:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, no idea why he can't just level up like anyone else. | [04:45] |
| ReadErr: | used to grinding | [04:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr the idea is to bot it anyway | [04:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | fucks with the character maybe an hour a week's worth. | [04:53] |
| ReadErr: | what do the bots do? farm materials? | [04:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | anything you want, really. | [04:57] |
| ReadErr: | are things generated synthetically ? | [05:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | what do you mean ? | [05:02] |
| ReadErr: | I mean in terms of materials and items | [05:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes but ? | [05:02] |
| ReadErr: | or are they all predetermined, created and input into the game by a person | [05:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah ; the latter is the case currently, but temporary. game is moving towards a former system, prolly this year. | [05:03] |
| ReadErr: | is this more of an MMO or instance style? | [05:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | no fighting implemented currently ; but when it will be, it'll work like old style tbs | [05:06] |
| ReadErr: | well I mean in the sense that, do others ingame share the same 'world' | [05:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes. | [05:07] |
| ReadErr: | like could I see danielpbarron | [05:08] |
| ReadErr: | gotcha | [05:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | only 1 world, no shards no bs | [05:08] |
| ReadErr: | was thinking the old diablo style vs mmo | [05:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. mmo all teh way. | [05:08] |
| ReadErr: | going to take some work to get the mouse feel right for me, always was a stickler for 'feel' | [05:29] |
| diana_coman: | ReadErr, fwiw Eulora's cli helps usually a whole lot more than the mouse | [09:54] |
| ReadErr: | not got to explore that but it's more native for me | [09:55] |
| ReadErr: | is there a guide on it? | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora + the client's help could be a starter (and you can define your own shortcuts anyway) | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | bot anyway had nothing to do with any mouse | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | native is no guarantee of usefulness | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | but everyone is certainly welcome to play as they wish | [09:58] |
| diana_coman: | good grief, ~300k for training 1 level in tinkering nowadays | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | come to think about it, yay for the ECu float! | [13:09] |
| danielpbarron: | top rank tinkerer problems | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, yes danielpbarron | [13:10] |
| danielpbarron: | i ranked up mcguyver recently and my bezzle items paid for it :D | [13:10] |
| diana_coman: | nice | [13:15] |
| ReadErr: | hmm so building from source, am I correct in thinking that cs-forupload needs to be built first? | [13:28] |
| ReadErr: | instead of cal3d | [13:28] |
| ReadErr: | anyways cal3d was requiring a cssysdef.h which wasnt satisfied without installing nvidia-cs | [13:29] |
| shinohai: | ReadErr: what OS were you using again? | [13:29] |
| danielpbarron: | you want cal3d first i think | [13:29] |
| ReadErr: | linux | [13:29] |
| shinohai: | (Same build anyway cal3d is indeed first) | [13:29] |
| danielpbarron: | ReadErr, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/VJoSX/?raw=true | [13:29] |
| ReadErr: | oh bit different, are the directory names/structure hardcoded ? | [13:30] |
| ReadErr: | that doc has it renaming to cs | [13:30] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't think so | [13:30] |
| shinohai: | nah I've always renamed cs-forupload as cs | [13:31] |
| danielpbarron: | just a naming convention i picked up years ago | [13:31] |
| ReadErr: | ohh i see, the steps after are just renamed too | [13:32] |
| ReadErr: | whats the \% at the login screen | [13:40] |
| danielpbarron: | ping | [13:40] |
| ReadErr: | ah so the \% is quality ? | [13:41] |
| ReadErr: | hmmm if its doable over CLI | [13:42] |
| ReadErr: | an irc bot interface could be fun | [13:42] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i think many people would very much like to have that | [13:42] |
| ReadErr: | how text heavy is the cli? | [13:42] |
| danielpbarron: | no idea | [13:43] |
| ReadErr: | I have code to distribute across n bots | [13:43] |
| ReadErr: | to avoid flood thresholds | [13:43] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't know i'd want to give my login info to someone else so i'm not sure how that would work | [13:47] |
| lobbesbot: | Post from eulora: MiniGame (S.MG), December 2017 Statement <http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-december-2017-statement/> | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr very much fun, and if you read the logs (see topic), it's often also 32121. | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | also there's not going to be a flood threshold in that sense. minigame is very much botter friendly. heck, current CTO started life as player-who-made-a-bot | [13:53] |
| ReadErr: | looking over the cmd___ files, is there a native interface for hooking in to it? fifo or tcp? may have not gotten to that point yet | [14:09] |
| ReadErr: | never used jam before, but ./configure seems to finish fine without any errors, no Jamfile gets made though so it fails on 'jam' | [14:20] |
| shinohai: | ReadErr: Dunno if you are a lisper (or if this even still works) but there is http://explo.yt/post/2016/02/29/Embedded-Common-Lisp-for-Eulora | [14:22] |
| ReadErr: | im not, i noticed the foxy directory though and had a look | [14:23] |
| ReadErr: | I gotta be missing some dependency, or maybe have a difference file, but theres no AM_USE_UNITTESTCPP in configure.in | [14:29] |
| ReadErr: | and its failing on unittest pkg check, i did install libunittest++-dev | [14:29] |
| shinohai: | ReadErr: do | [14:31] |
| shinohai: | then recompile, will work | [14:32] |
| ReadErr: | actually let me blow this directory away and start over, maybe i did something by mistake | [14:34] |
| shinohai: | Weirdness, is this an Ubuntu or a proper linux? | [14:34] |
| ReadErr: | debian | [14:34] |
| shinohai: | oh kk, I used to be pretty stuck on Debian - I did encounter weird errors from time to time. | [14:35] |
| shinohai: | For some reason (this was a few yrs back, even!) I had to manually remove the line AM_USE_UNITTESTCPP from the configure.in | [14:36] |
| ReadErr: | http://rip.run/gwj | [14:38] |
| ReadErr: | im comfortable with debian normally, just strange here | [14:38] |
| ReadErr: | thats a fresh untar with just your sed command run | [14:38] |
| ReadErr: | are kind of odd.. | [14:38] |
| shinohai: | Can you do a double-check for me and see if sed indeed commented out that line? | [14:40] |
| ReadErr: | i couldnt find that string at all in configure.in | [14:40] |
| ReadErr: | $ grep AM_USE_UNITTESTCPP configure.in | [14:41] |
| ReadErr: | $ | [14:41] |
| shinohai: | Hmmmmm ....... | [14:43] |
| ReadErr: | http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/cal3d.tar.gz | [14:44] |
| ReadErr: | using that version | [14:44] |
| shinohai: | Oh wait .... this is Debian, so ..... what is your gcc version? | [14:46] |
| ReadErr: | 7.2.0 | [14:46] |
| ReadErr: | hmm that seems to high | [14:47] |
| shinohai: | Indeed .... Last I could build this on was 4.9.3 without a ton of issues. Others results may vary. | [14:47] |
| ReadErr: | oh wow, no thats right apparently | [14:47] |
| ReadErr: | news to me, didnt know gcc was up in the 7s | [14:47] |
| shinohai: | They bolt on more useless shit every year, breaks all the stuff you could build with previous version. | [14:48] |
| shinohai: | I'd like to napalm them all. | [14:48] |
| ReadErr: | lol yea, it was LTO for me last upgrade | [14:48] |
| ReadErr: | did a hail marry and ran 'apt-get install -y make build-essential libssl-dev zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev libreadline-dev libsqlite3-dev wget curl llvm libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev xz-utils tk-dev' | [14:57] |
| ReadErr: | and something there satisfied unittest (build-essential was already installed) | [14:58] |
| shinohai: | madness lol | [14:58] |
| shinohai: | Do remember you can always use "update-alternatives" to build with a lower version gcc anytime on Deb/Ubuntu | [15:00] |
| ReadErr: | knock one down another pops up, i may just try ubuntu | [15:02] |
| ReadErr: | 16.04lts workable? | [15:02] |
| shinohai: | Should be, last I tested it worked. | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr http://logs.minigame.bz/search/?q=AM_USE_UNITTESTCPP >> log also has a search function | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr 10.04 last anyone seriously tested ; but try and see. | [15:19] |
| diana_coman: | I'd be surprised if everything worked with cpp 7 whatever | [15:19] |
| ReadErr: | im updating a 16.04 to try now | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i'd be curious to see specifically if not and what exactly. but yeah. | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr fwiw republic is pretty much set on gcc 4.x as final gcc. | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | huh, why not just downgrade cpp ReadErr ? | [15:20] |
| ReadErr: | +1 | [15:20] |
| ReadErr: | 4 is the last I remember | [15:20] |
| ReadErr: | then somehow they are on 7 | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | wreckers. | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | quantitative easing!!11 | [15:21] |
| ReadErr: | diana_coman: didnt want to break anything else (not that it would 100\% but..) | [15:21] |
| shinohai: | as I said previously, update-alternatives lets you use older gcc without breakage. | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | it's after all another sort of printolade to borrow alf's term anyway | [15:22] |
| ReadErr: | shinohai: yea ive used that for python, I use that machine for other stuff so dont want to tamper with it too much | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman quite ; delivers the http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#comment-122811 neet hope, after a fashion. | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr if all else fails, danielpbarron cooked together a known-to-work machine, which he sells but i think he published the recipe too. | [15:23] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, gah, that stood out so horribly that I even recollect it | [15:24] |
| ReadErr: | which distribution is dev work done off of? | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | ReadErr, client is for players to hack /write/chop as they wish so no fixed thing there, can't be | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | ReadErr it's not done lol, client is community maintained. we're currently working on a proper api for the server. | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | hence all the eucrypt stuff. | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose that made no sense as such, let's try again : | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | eulora is a game published by minigame, which is a game publisher listed on mpex (which is the bitcoin stock exchange) ; eulora constits of a server, which is closed, and a client, which is open. minigame has mostly been dedicated to fixing the server first ; client work is very much open in the sense of -- everyone is welcome to run with their own client ; there's been some push to get a text-only client going, etc. the idea | [15:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | is to get the server in enough of a shape to have a proper api for it so the foregoing can proceed in earnest, which is what minigame's doing atm. | [15:26] |
| ReadErr: | saw the lisp project but, is there a better way to interact with the CLI (fifo buffer or tcp)? | [15:29] |
| shinohai: | I was recalling about a year ago or so was it, trying to help thestringpuller with the gcc thing ... 'twas worse than hand-holding a noob. | [15:29] |
| shinohai: | ReadErr: I'm all ears if you want to experiment with CLI interactions, I was poking at it for a while but irl got in the way last year. | [15:29] |
| ReadErr: | shinohai: i would like to go ircbot route | [15:30] |
| shinohai: | Me too tbh | [15:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | that'd be hella cool ftr. | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | im giving yall unique items if you manage to pull it off. | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1766048 but for eulora, have a bot bridge you can !!bot craft 9999 5000 m 99999999 into and which goes "craft finished" or w.e | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | would rock. | [15:43] |
| ReadErr: | fingers cross, 16.04 seems to be building fine | [16:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. put a word on wiki so we know in the future plox. | [16:58] |
| ReadErr: | ill try and get a package list too w/ versions | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | perfect | [17:19] |
| Birdman2: | huh, my guy isnt facing forward | [21:48] |
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