#eulora Logs for 13 Jun 2017



June 13th, 2017 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: and in other wow news, apparently im making 10 woa [09:50]
diana_coman: the wow being that you managed to finish the click without dc:D [10:24]
mod6: adds some change with the magic bag [10:25]
mod6: is looting! [10:33]
shinohai: O.o [10:36]
mod6: doing some mining :] [10:39]
diana_coman: nice mod6 [10:42]
mod6: how goes? [11:06]
diana_coman: a bit slow, but it goes [11:26]
diana_coman: got the eulora box ready after all? [11:26]
mod6: oh yah, had it up for some time now [11:54]
mod6: but, had hijacked it for fg testing. [11:54]
mod6: which took some time. [11:54]
diana_coman: not a bad hijacking by any means :) [11:55]
mod6: is there any way to warp these days? [14:20]
diana_coman: mod6, there should still be, but it's relaxed at least at some points [14:32]
diana_coman: I think some people managed to fall off the map even [14:32]
mod6: ooh. lol. [14:32]
mod6: im sittin over here on da grassy knoll chalk full of goods. [14:33]
mod6: wondering if i need to make 23 trips. [14:33]
diana_coman: o.O don't you have enough tables? [14:33]
mod6: i have a table, but when i pick it up, then im overweight. [14:33]
diana_coman: so drag it [14:33]
mod6: oh you can drag it? [14:33]
diana_coman: pick up put down, move, repeat [14:33]
diana_coman: I guess you can make the bot do that still, but it will be slow [14:34]
mod6: ah ok [14:34]
diana_coman: basically point it towards where you want to go, make sure you are barehanded and start an explore - though you might end up full of keys too if not enough to build the claims [14:34]
diana_coman: mod6, at what markup do you need to sell those things to be +ev? cft is now ~140\% iirc but relatively low q [14:37]
mod6: no idea. [14:37]
mod6: i gathered most of it bare-handed. [14:37]
mod6: had some nice threads that i bought a while back [14:38]
mod6: made by you even! 113q [14:38]
diana_coman: those are actually not bad nowadays; onth you can use more cft to make a bundle now too [14:42]
diana_coman: what does your char see on the enums? [14:42]
diana_coman: do you get smalls barehanded? [14:42]
mod6: na, tinys [14:44]
diana_coman: ah; what bv goes in and out of tinies for you? somehow on tinies I just couldn't make it work at all lately [14:45]
mod6: bv? [14:46]
mod6: i stuck in 1 cft [14:46]
mod6: got out a several 17q solid branches [14:46]
mod6: low q compared to what i used to get. [14:46]
mod6: ~somewhere around 100+ [14:46]
diana_coman: base value [14:49]
diana_coman: hm; do you mean 1 bit of nothing or 1 thread? [14:49]
mod6: 1 thread [14:50]
diana_coman: so then the claim must be small, not tiny [14:50]
mod6: oh. hm. [14:50]
mod6: i wasn't watching /that/ close. [14:50]
mod6: what do tiny claims take? thread right? [14:50]
diana_coman: he he; tinies are built with little bits of nothing [14:50]
diana_coman: smalls are built with threads [14:50]
mod6: oh boy. [14:50]
mod6: lol. [14:51]
mod6: maybe i just stuffed a bunch of tinys with threads [14:51]
diana_coman: o.O [14:51]
diana_coman: that would be something if it worked, lol [14:52]
diana_coman: if it was bot-explore you could look into the logs I suppose [14:52]
diana_coman: should be in ~/.Eulora/logs [14:52]
mod6: ah, ok. [14:53]
diana_coman: re quality yeah, it's all over the place when exploring - makes for a lot of jamming of the bot too, sadly [14:53]
mod6: seemed to work great for me [14:53]
diana_coman: good then :) [14:54]
mod6: i did get mostly all tiny claims. 1 small. [14:55]
mod6: does the bot know to put in a little-bit-o-nothing if it calls for them AND i have them in my invenentory? [14:56]
diana_coman: yes [14:57]
diana_coman: it knows how to build both tinies and smalls with the corresponding stuff [14:57]
diana_coman: and assuming your char is not very skilled, it should still work with the standard values 1 lbn /7 cft [14:58]
mod6: awesome. should be g2g then [14:58]
diana_coman: have a look at some enums to see what it says on them - it says different things for different people basically [14:58]
diana_coman: it's one of the last updates - I think danielpbarron discussed it a bit lemme dig [14:59]
diana_coman: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-unreasonable-update/ <- there [14:59]
mod6: ok [14:59]
diana_coman: if you are relatively low skill at building you might be able to make good money by using foxy's bundles for instance or similar [15:00]
diana_coman: fox can bundle up more value so you'd basically put in more , hopefully get out more of each claim too [15:00]
diana_coman: from my observations higher q too [15:01]
mod6: whats in high demand these days as far as low q stuff? [15:05]
mod6: need anything> [15:06]
mod6: ? [15:06]
danielpbarron: i could use some shiny rock [15:08]
mod6: i've got a bunch [15:09]
mod6: im digging some stuff up, will meet you back at the spot in a few. [15:09]
mod6: diana_coman: yeah, now that im watching it, it is indeed putting in little-bits-o-nothin [15:11]
diana_coman: aha, cool [15:11]
mod6: 15 boulders! [15:11]
mod6: im rich. [15:11]
diana_coman: lol [15:11]
mod6: i love this game [15:11]
diana_coman: :) [15:12]
mod6: danielpbarron: i've got; 9 SR @ 123q, 210 @ 53q, and 1149 @ 1q [15:16]
mod6: what's that like (9*123)+(210*53)+1149 ? [15:17]
diana_coman: !~calc 79*(9*1.23+210*0.53+1149*0.01) [15:19]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 79*(9*1.23+210*0.53+1149*0.01) = 10574.94 [15:19]
diana_coman: that would be base value mod6 [15:19]
diana_coman: I've been selling basics at 185\% bv [15:19]
mod6: ah, gotcha. [15:20]
diana_coman: !~calc 1.85*79*(9*1.23+210*0.53+1149*0.01) [15:20]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 1.85*79*(9*1.23+210*0.53+1149*0.01) = 19563.639000000003 [15:20]
diana_coman: I don't know though what \% works for you really, hence my questions earlier [15:20]
diana_coman: base value was value at 100q hence the 1.23 for 123q etc [15:21]
mod6: ok. [15:21]
mod6: danielpbarron: anyway, just let me know how many, etc. we can figure out a price. [15:31]
danielpbarron: i'll take them all if the price is right [15:31]
mod6: 17.5k [15:32]
danielpbarron: how about 15k [15:33]
mod6: 16 and its a deal. [15:34]
danielpbarron: !~calc 16000/10574.94 [15:35]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 16000/10574.94 = 1.5130109485254761 [15:35]
danielpbarron: aight [15:35]
mod6: ok. cool. one sec. [15:37]
mod6: i can put different qual stacks into the craft-table and it wont mix 'em right? [15:40]
mircea_popescu: epic dealin' over here hehe [15:40]
mircea_popescu: mod6 right. nor in your inv [15:41]
mircea_popescu: only mixes if you deliberately do it now [15:41]
mod6: ah, ok cool. [15:41]
mod6: just wanted to be sure. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: yeh [15:42]
mod6: seems like i can't get the 1149 in there at the same time as the two other stacks., [15:43]
mod6: wonder what I'm doing wrong.. [15:43]
mod6: "You can not move an item being exchanged." [15:44]
diana_coman: mod6, that's because of how exchanges work atm; don't try to mix stuff while exchanging it basically [15:45]
diana_coman: take them in inv first with take all [15:45]
mod6: im just trying to put it in its own slot. [15:45]
diana_coman: and then move the full stack/how many they are [15:45]
diana_coman: from table? [15:45]
diana_coman: or from inv? [15:45]
mod6: na, pulling them back into my inv mixed 'em [15:46]
diana_coman: also, the slot remains "occupied" in inv as long as the exchange is opened [15:46]
mod6: dangit. [15:46]
mircea_popescu: no way ?! [15:46]
diana_coman: o.O how's that? [15:46]
diana_coman: did you have the table down and took them with take all and they got mixed? [15:46]
mod6: yah. now i've got 1359 @ 9q [15:46]
mod6: and 9 @ 123q [15:46]
mircea_popescu: and before ? [15:46]
diana_coman: uhm, so not all mixed either? [15:47]
mod6: na, i CTRL+clicked and moved them one stack at a time. but it wouldn't let me put in the 3rd stack to the trade window. [15:47]
mod6: well, had: < mod6> danielpbarron: i've got; 9 SR @ 123q, 210 @ 53q, and 1149 @ 1q [15:47]
mircea_popescu: so it mixed when you took all from trade ? this is weird af. [15:48]
diana_coman: I suspect he dropped them on a previous stack basically [15:48]
mod6: yah, i tried to move them back into my inv and re-place them in the trade window. guess was a bad move. [15:48]
mircea_popescu: did you drag them by hand into wrong stack maynbe ? [15:48]
mod6: well, not graphically, diana_coman . i did attempt to place them in an empty slot. but it didn't seem to matter. [15:48]
mircea_popescu: hm [15:49]
mircea_popescu: thisll hafta be checked [15:49]
diana_coman: thing is whether it was an empty slot or a reserved slot [15:49]
mod6: anyway, not a big deal really. but could be something to look at. [15:49]
danielpbarron: !~calc 1359*0.09*79 [15:49]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 1359*0.09*79 = 9662.49 [15:49]
mod6: danielpbarron: ok. so now it's 9 @ 123q & 1359 @ 9q. [15:49]
mod6: my apologies. say 10k for the load? [15:50]
danielpbarron: k [15:50]
diana_coman: o.O [15:50]
diana_coman: !~calc 9662*1.5 [15:50]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 9662*1.5 = 14493 [15:50]
mod6: well, i fucked it up. [15:51]
mod6: so, no sweat. [15:51]
danielpbarron: ty [15:51]
mod6: yup, np [15:52]
mod6: im just grabbing up the grass, and fruit. daang. [16:15]
mod6: i've got some tools that get me the smalls pretty regular. [16:15]
mircea_popescu: cool huh [16:20]
mod6: yeah, i like mining [16:20]
mod6: ive got like 3000 grass in ~11 attempts here [16:21]
mircea_popescu: what q ? [16:21]
mod6: 1 [16:24]
mircea_popescu: a yeah. not bad tho [16:24]
mod6: yah, not bad for one pass of the bot [16:25]
mod6: 1741 rr's too [16:27]
mod6: 2900 fruit [16:27]
mircea_popescu: nice [16:28]
mod6: i need to get good enough with tinkering to turn my craft table into a quadrotor and fly the stuff back automagically [16:42]
mircea_popescu: lel srsly. [16:42]
mod6: heheh, remember the piles of keys we used to leave everywhere? [16:49]
mircea_popescu: oya [16:56]
mod6: :D [16:56]
mircea_popescu: hehe [16:57]

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