diana_coman: | weirdly enough despite all cries about cft, there is no demand even for that; anyways: | [03:30] |
diana_coman: | AUCTION: 1320 TLC 230q 10mn heard mircea_popescu; 700 cft 262q opening bid 660k; closing Nov 3rd 8pm GMT | [03:30] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, t'was a remark | [03:31] |
shinohai: | diana_coman 660k on the cft | [06:13] |
diana_coman: | AUCTION: 1320 TLC 230q 10mn heard mircea_popescu; 700 cft 262q 660k heard shinohai ; closing Nov 3rd 8pm GMT | [06:13] |
diana_coman: | what q do you get on grass nowadays shinohai ? | [06:13] |
shinohai: | Haven't had any to make lately, sold you all I had. | [06:14] |
diana_coman: | ok, want to build 1 ord for me? | [06:14] |
shinohai: | Sure lemme log in here. | [06:15] |
diana_coman: | good luck with it | [06:17] |
shinohai: | thanx diana_coman | [06:18] |
diana_coman: | !~calc 0.1*2340*60*1.04*1.5 | [06:33] |
jhvh1: | diana_coman: 0.1*2340*60*1.04*1.5 = 21902.4 | [06:33] |
diana_coman: | not bad at all, thanks! | [06:33] |
shinohai: | q104 heh | [06:33] |
diana_coman: | my enum bumps up your quality too | [06:34] |
diana_coman: | but it's anyway good since I am totally out of anything below 200q | [06:34] |
shinohai: | And I only died once instead of 4 times this round! | [06:34] |
diana_coman: | ahaahha | [06:34] |
diana_coman: | getting the hang of it | [06:34] |
shinohai: | yeah ... keep forgetting about "The Glow" on the way back though | [06:37] |
shinohai: | get burned every. single. time. | [06:37] |
diana_coman: | lol! | [06:43] |
diana_coman: | it is basically... at the end of the world sort of | [06:44] |
mircea_popescu: | ohohoh left it working snails overnight, 13 ords + 1 remark! | [07:05] |
shinohai: | Nice one! | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu: | yep, 4.98mn pop | [07:07] |
diana_coman: | wow, congrats | [07:07] |
mircea_popescu: | >D | [07:08] |
mircea_popescu: | it's really nice to come back to a forest of ord keys i tell you that. | [07:17] |
diana_coman: | heh, it is indeed | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu: | btw, diana_coman hanbot you won, meet me in town in about half hour to settle ? | [07:17] |
diana_coman: | I am in town, lol | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu: | aite i just wanna let this run finish, few sticks left. | [07:18] |
diana_coman: | I'll go afk in about 5 min so laters | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu: | aite. | [07:19] |
mircea_popescu: | so the way i figure this, i'm pretty much guaranteed to pop on those snails - again! | [07:46] |
hanbot: | so i make technicolor dreamcoats at piddly 30k quality. i'ma need several, high q preferably, over the course of repairing, make me some mircea_popescu? | [15:30] |
mircea_popescu: | alright lemme look into it. | [15:31] |
mircea_popescu: | boy dat snail remark bundle is 5mn | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tzzg9/?raw=true | [15:55] |
mircea_popescu: | ahh that sweet sweet moment when you get 100+ snails from an ord | [16:15] |
diana_coman: | nice | [16:16] |
shinohai: | Did auction end yet? | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu: | mine ? surely. | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu: | ended yest just gotta get the gals lined up for delivery. | [16:43] |
shinohai: | nah I meant diana_coman 's | [16:46] |
diana_coman: | AUCTION: 1320 TLC 230q 10mn heard mircea_popescu; 700 cft 262q 660k heard shinohai <- closed, come pick up | [16:48] |
diana_coman: | indeed shinohai , it ended :) | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu: | im coming to town diana_coman | [16:48] |
shinohai: | \o/ | [16:49] |
diana_coman: | foxy's in town shaving splinters or what is that | [16:49] |
shinohai: | Do I just come trade w/ you? | [16:50] |
diana_coman: | aha, gimme 1 min to take them out of storage | [16:50] |
shinohai: | kk no rush | [16:50] |
diana_coman: | trade me shinohai | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu: | 23.5-10 = 13.5 | [16:52] |
diana_coman: | do you have change? | [16:52] |
mircea_popescu: | happens i do | [16:52] |
diana_coman: | thank you | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu: | thankee | [16:53] |
diana_coman: | enjoy shinohai | [16:53] |
shinohai: | ty diana_coman o/ | [16:53] |
shinohai: | Heh that was forst auction bid I have ever won | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu: | hanbot 29 coats q 96497 ready for pickup, bill's 6.4mn. you also got 403 wines at 67mn waitin fer ye. | [16:55] |
diana_coman: | heh, congrats shinohai | [16:55] |
diana_coman: | first auction won, not bad | [16:55] |
diana_coman: | now if I get those tokens, I can do some cons, get some tm bps and finally use the cheez | [17:00] |
diana_coman: | got tons of bods and the like and anyway bods were lapidary I think and I have highest skill in lapidary anyway | [17:01] |
diana_coman: | so will make more wheels to do more lapidary, lol! | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu: | lol | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu: | im trying to make some of my own bod actually. | [17:17] |
diana_coman: | ah, actually it's the ampoules that are lappy | [17:20] |
diana_coman: | bod is samovar so you are prolly way better there | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu: | im making some ampoules too. coming out q 117 which... meh! | [17:21] |
diana_coman: | well, I have some old ones at 157q | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu: | selling ? | [17:22] |
diana_coman: | sure, I think they are in the shop, no? | [17:22] |
mircea_popescu: | looks | [17:23] |
diana_coman: | omg, I'm even selling pickaxes, lol! | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu: | 390\% ? | [17:23] |
diana_coman: | and myeah, I can sell a few pickaxes but not many | [17:23] |
diana_coman: | yeah, I'll trust my previous calculations, lol | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu: | grits his teeth | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu: | btw you buying the lapidary numina ? | [17:24] |
diana_coman: | hm, so far I'm still kind of out of storage space in numina really | [17:26] |
mircea_popescu: | ah k | [17:26] |
shinohai: | likes how snails are classified as | [17:27] |
diana_coman: | maybe later after I get to burn with some cons | [17:27] |
diana_coman: | and eggs are mining , shinohai :D | [17:27] |
shinohai: | xD | [17:27] |
shinohai: | While wpl qualifies as groceries | [17:27] |
diana_coman: | I guess the price on lappy stuff including ampoules might come down depending on what hanbot charges for repairing a table | [17:32] |
diana_coman: | but atm I have to go with previous calculations | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu: | she didn't seem to excited to repair my wos | [17:40] |
mircea_popescu: | i got quite the pile of worn ones | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu: | btw you got bps ? | [17:41] |
diana_coman: | wos bps? sadly no:( | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu: | me either. | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu: | that may turn pretty fuckin tight. | [17:41] |
diana_coman: | still have some wheel bps but that's all | [17:42] |
diana_coman: | indeed | [17:42] |
mircea_popescu: | no wos no lbn | [17:42] |
mircea_popescu: | and what's worse - no lbn, no bouq cons clicking | [17:43] |
diana_coman: | that's the worse, the no cons | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu: | mhm. | [17:46] |
diana_coman: | tbh I suspect that wos bps in fact cannot be obtained with what cons we saw so far | [17:58] |
diana_coman: | wos is mcguyver and the apprentice mcguyver cons stopped well below the 40k that the wos bp would be | [17:58] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah i guess ima have to do a run of app book cons clicking to see maybe i manage better | [17:59] |
mircea_popescu: | anyone got uber high q mites ? | [17:59] |
mircea_popescu: | ohohoho wait wait, i have a path via toils. | [18:04] |
mircea_popescu: | ooookay, ima be doing this then. | [18:04] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman if i supply the poc, are you making ma ? | [18:06] |
diana_coman: | what deal do you have in mind exactly? | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu: | i dunno. but i should be making bod but not really ma. | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu: | did a test run, am nonplussed with results. | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu: | and this is using q 332 ps ;/ | [18:08] |
diana_coman: | I'd be quite happy to make ma, yes | [18:08] |
diana_coman: | quite ouch indeed | [18:08] |
mircea_popescu: | what's it take 2 poc 17 pss ? | [18:09] |
diana_coman: | yes | [18:09] |
diana_coman: | and 1 bp, obv | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu: | well think about it get back to me ? | [18:10] |
diana_coman: | what quantity do you have in mind? | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu: | i could make 1k+ poc | [18:11] |
diana_coman: | 17k pssl would clearly need a remark first, lol | [18:13] |
mircea_popescu: | aha. | [18:14] |
mircea_popescu: | well, 500 * 17 so only about a stack pss needed | [18:14] |
diana_coman: | !~calc 17*262*1.8 + 2273*4.94 +1345*10 | [18:15] |
jhvh1: | diana_coman: 17*262*1.8 + 2273*4.94 +1345*10 = 32695.82 | [18:15] |
diana_coman: | that's an estimate of what 1 single click costs at current market prices for what goes in, ignoring the pocc entirely since it's yours | [18:19] |
mircea_popescu: | well if you're gonna charge it at 1.8 i'd rather supply the pss myself. | [18:19] |
diana_coman: | don't you buy it at 1.8? | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu: | i thought i sold it at hm lemme see | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu: | ah right not a basic. kay. | [18:20] |
diana_coman: | you are selling it at 1.95 lol | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu: | ya lol. | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu: | im actually kinda tempted to do a large pss run and see if i can sell some | [18:20] |
diana_coman: | I'm not going to pay 1.95 on it | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu: | im chronically short on pss somehow. | [18:21] |
diana_coman: | but I'm fine if you supply that too, I don't mind | [18:21] |
diana_coman: | well, I just used a ton to make cs | [18:21] |
mircea_popescu: | there is that yeah. | [18:21] |
mircea_popescu: | im making q 147 bod. | [18:22] |
diana_coman: | that's where my pss goes mainly | [18:22] |
mircea_popescu: | considering how shitty my bps are, i count this as an accomplishment. | [18:22] |
mircea_popescu: | anyway diana_coman this fixed cost thing doesn't really account for qualities you know ? | [18:25] |
mircea_popescu: | so it costs 32.7k per click to make... what q md ? | [18:25] |
diana_coman: | this is all at bv | [18:25] |
mircea_popescu: | well the wheel'd better be at bv lol. | [18:26] |
diana_coman: | ? | [18:26] |
mircea_popescu: | 2273*4.94 < | [18:26] |
diana_coman: | that's the decay, 2273 | [18:26] |
mircea_popescu: | right. | [18:27] |
diana_coman: | and 4.94 is the current markup for the wheel | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu: | yes, and it's always bv. | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu: | but anyway - so out of a bundle what q you get a md what q ? | [18:27] |
diana_coman: | lemme see | [18:27] |
diana_coman: | it depends on bv q too though so not sure what you want to find out | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu: | an' what q would teh bps be | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman bv q ? whassat ? | [18:28] |
diana_coman: | bp* | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu: | right. | [18:28] |
diana_coman: | bps would be just as shitty as it's only at 50q what I have for the quantity you want | [18:30] |
mircea_popescu: | ouch huh | [18:31] |
diana_coman: | do you have bps too? lol | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu: | so did you do any crafting with these ? what sort of bundle/product q did you see ? | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu: | i have a few, but they're about there too. | [18:31] |
diana_coman: | lemme dig out a skullcap and do this bundle I still have somehow | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu: | kk | [18:31] |
diana_coman: | btw if you supply everything (bps, pss, pocc), I'll provide the ampoules only and I'm fine to do it for the cost of decay only | [18:36] |
diana_coman: | so made ampoule with bp 50q, bundle 233 -> 124q, sigh | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu: | hahaha | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu: | so basically this is a way to get ... numina | [18:37] |
diana_coman: | it is | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu: | well... sux | [18:38] |
diana_coman: | do you prefer to pay instead and keep the numina or what? | [18:38] |
diana_coman: | yeah, the q sucks | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu: | i guess im just gonna make the poc and sell it at some point | [18:38] |
diana_coman: | I really used much higher q bundles, I think this is why this one remained; plus some higher q bps of which I just don't have enough anymore atm | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well the problem is, paying (in bps, and in tool decay) for the priviledge of turning 100q points of stuff with a \% of 180+ into stuff that doesn;t sell for 105\% is iffy | [18:39] |
diana_coman: | I think you are mixing something there | [18:40] |
diana_coman: | the stuff 105\% I take it to be numina, right? | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah | [18:40] |
diana_coman: | so then how are you paying in bps and tool decay? | [18:40] |
diana_coman: | or you mean that making it sucks | [18:40] |
diana_coman: | true, I see | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu: | well, you take 233 q points of bundle, which is stuff that goes for 200\% mark-up, and get 109q points of... numina | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu: | basically half. | [18:40] |
diana_coman: | myeah | [18:41] |
diana_coman: | that's the shitty bp really | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu: | more even, because the tool decayu also goes there. | [18:41] |
diana_coman: | I suppose this gets unblocked when more higher q bps to mix them up | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu: | here's the thing : since the bp is so shitty, how about i pay for the pss and you are so happy to get the xp for a large bundle that you don't charge for the rest. | [18:42] |
diana_coman: | wait what? lol | [18:42] |
diana_coman: | I pay for the xp with my own bp and my own table decay too? | [18:42] |
diana_coman: | and my time ? | [18:42] |
diana_coman: | and what else? | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu: | hm. | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu: | but you get 233 q points of xp, and i get 100q points of result! | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu: | somebody's gotta pay! | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu: | do crafting like normal people, where you take q 150 bundle, spit out q 210 product, then you're on your rights to ask for 2722$ for the bp etc. | [18:43] |
diana_coman: | but you know, I can get those points of xp and keep the ampoules and wait until someone will pay for them something | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu: | i guess. | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu: | well... if you get coal, that is. | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu: | which is why i guess the only practical thing here is for me to sell it. | [18:44] |
diana_coman: | basically the bps at this moment are too shitty for this to work | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah | [18:46] |
diana_coman: | so out of this solutions that I see would be about 2: either I get some higher q bps | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu: | oh that's maybe a solution : do some clicks on lapidary cons. if you get the bundle say 400+ you might loot some q 300 or w/e bps | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu: | mix with these, suddenly you got something. | [18:47] |
diana_coman: | or otherwise I buy pocc and do my stuff and then sell the ma | [18:47] |
diana_coman: | myeah, but waiting on the tokens, lol | [18:47] |
diana_coman: | that's why I actually placed my bid on that: for the tokens | [18:47] |
mircea_popescu: | what else is there in lapidary, rastrums and stuff | [18:47] |
diana_coman: | it is for some reason that sort of buy this book and take this shit with it, but hey | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | that's the sad thing | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | there isn't much in lapidary still | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | so one gets shit | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | the numina thing | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu: | oh and all the toils! wowza. | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | but for that daniel has the waters | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu: | no dude the toils are huge. | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu: | i got water. | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | and he doesn't even seem to be around anymore | [18:48] |
diana_coman: | oh, you have? | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu: | sure, i looted on cooking cons. | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu: | i was actually preparing to do a run of toils, i didn't realise it's lapidary. | [18:49] |
diana_coman: | wow, didn't know that; all of a sudden things look better, lol | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu: | alright, let me get all this shit lined up and ima talk to you about that. | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu: | toils are the sine qua non condition of unsticking the bouq cons clicking because need mites. | [18:49] |
diana_coman: | do you have that remambrance tincture thing too? | [18:51] |
mircea_popescu: | lemme see | [18:56] |
mircea_popescu: | nop | [18:56] |
diana_coman: | that's needed for those famed lvl 3 numina from what I see | [18:57] |
diana_coman: | btw, anyone ever got one of those? | [18:57] |
diana_coman: | livresque horrors? | [18:58] |
diana_coman: | I have only 490 mites 295q, lol | [19:06] |
mircea_popescu: | i got some vapors | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu: | but like...3 | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu: | anyway how much for teh mites ? | [19:25] |
hanbot: | AUCTION: package of 50 Inconsequential Sacrifice Tokens, q101; 50 Doubtful Tome Doodles, q200; and 50 Giant's Rotten Canines, q1337. 60mn heard diana_coman ; ETA Thursday Nov 3rd at 23:59 ART. << only a coupla hours left | [19:27] |
hanbot: | mircea_popescu i'll pickup coats + aw here | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu: | cool | [19:28] |
mircea_popescu: | sweet delishius 73 mn :D | [19:29] |
hanbot: | thanks mr. vinterweaver | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu: | lol my pleasure | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu: | grats diana_coman | [22:19] |
hanbot: | auction package goes to diana_coman - pick up at your leisure | [23:02] |
lobbesbot: | Post from eulora: MiniGame (S.MG), October 2016 Statement <http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-october-2016-statement/> | [23:22] |
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