| alikim: | do storage items have permanent IDs or do they change with time? I have keys in storage that have IDs that I haven't recorded and I record all IDs when I put keys in. | [00:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim the game doesn't offer itemid as a guarantee outside of the session, don't code around that assumption. | [08:58] |
| alikim: | aww.. then I can't track keys ;) | [08:59] |
| alikim: | if they change their ID I don't know how old they are | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, there's going to be a client update later this year, to include a bunch of stuff, hopefully addresses the key problem at least to some degree. | [09:00] |
| alikim: | hopefully not too many changes to messaging system, I wouldn't like to rewrite the bot | [09:01] |
| alikim: | anyway, I'd like to sell 200k worth of beans if you'd like to buy | [09:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [09:04] |
| alikim: | 197 * 100 * 1.3 * 781 = 200k | [09:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | so trade me ? | [09:07] |
| alikim: | relogging | [09:07] |
| alikim: | that's a mil, I just need 200k ;) | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun have small change o.O | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i'm too overloaded to go into the bank hmm... | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | listen, take the 1mn, go to bank break it up and bring me back 800k how about that. | [09:10] |
| alikim: | kk I'll try | [09:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey, another 0.05 | [09:11] |
| alikim: | how do you exchange money? | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.eulorum.org/Banking < | [09:16] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Banking - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [09:16] |
| alikim: | thanks, I need to change design of that widget, I can't see numbers | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | hehe | [09:26] |
| alikim: | yeah it wasn't desinged for big boys | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | danke | [09:34] |
| alikim: | thanks! | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | feel free to expand the wiki article also | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | kinda dry. | [09:35] |
| alikim: | yeah when I'm done with more pressing matters | [09:36] |
| alikim: | diana_coman: I'd like to buy 70 cft at q109 and cft bps 28 at q32, 265 * 70 + 28 * 20 = 19110, when you ready | [09:43] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, you still want those blueprints? | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron aha. | [10:05] |
| jurov: | alikim just a reminder: if you traded non-round amount you'd have got smaller coins | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | if he huh ?! | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh you'd have given him change ? | [10:27] |
| jurov: | no he asked exactly one million, got exactly one coin :D | [10:28] |
| alikim: | jurov: I asked for 200k | [10:33] |
| jurov: | oh I confused you with another one, sorry | [10:42] |
| alikim: | where the client stores saved widget positions? | [10:43] |
| jurov: | in ~/.eulora | [10:44] |
| alikim: | is that a file name? | [10:45] |
| alikim: | I mean windows client | [10:45] |
| jurov: | wow you're developing under windows? which IDE? | [10:46] |
| jurov: | and the files are in \%APPDATA\% | [10:46] |
| alikim: | thanks! | [10:50] |
| alikim: | vc++ 2010, since day one | [10:50] |
| alikim: | funny, I run the original client and stopped seeing my bot widget. It changed thebot widget visibility in planeshift.cfg and that can not be overriden by this->Show() | [10:56] |
| alikim: | had to manually change it there | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know, you should make a wiki page and save all these notes there, even if they're not nicely formatted at first | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i remember people cursing about this exact same thing > 1 year ago. but i couldn't have told you about it before you found it. | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | time to stop wasting effort in this wya | [11:03] |
| alikim: | when I have time I'll make a bot that will carve out all my posts from logs and I'll paste technical ones in to wiki | [11:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | could work. tho from experience this works better when prospective rather than retrospective. | [11:06] |
| danielpbarron: | i've got the blueprints taken out and in a locked claim, and i've got the numbers all typed up; guess i can leave it that way for a couple days | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | alikim, you around? | [12:09] |
| alikim: | yes, wanna trade | [12:10] |
| alikim: | ? | [12:10] |
| diana_coman: | on my way to town to take them out and then will trade, yes | [12:10] |
| alikim: | kk omw | [12:10] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy | [12:12] |
| alikim: | thanks! | [12:12] |
| alikim: | it's for tests, if it works out I'll buy more | [12:13] |
| diana_coman: | well, there's limited quantities of everything , but as long as it's available, sure | [12:13] |
| diana_coman: | hm, made ich at 50k durability | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | that's apparently 305q, hence bv would be some 16.5k | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | ftr the above is with worn-out hoes | [12:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron hm ? | [13:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman pretty good. high bms ? | [13:33] |
| diana_coman: | not really, high slag though | [13:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty good. | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | so that's what, 50mn bv of imp tool you're looking art | [13:38] |
| danielpbarron: | i have the blueprints you requested, most of them are in a locked tiny tuber claim next to the trainer | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite one sec we can trade danielpbarron | [13:45] |
| danielpbarron: | k | [13:45] |
| danielpbarron: | ready when you are | [14:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | logging in danielpbarron | [14:01] |
| danielpbarron: | 876*2000+10000*500+731*1000+42*5000+2239*100+153750*5+176*4000+25545*100+81*7000+3500*500+89*5000+1800*1000+176*5000+176+3000+105*5000+224*2000+14*2000+882*1000 = 19272326 | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | one sec. | [14:02] |
| danielpbarron: | all qualities are the ones you quoted | [14:02] |
| danielpbarron: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-05-13.log.html#t03:17:49 << here | [14:02] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Friday, 2016-05-13 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | a tyvm, was hunting for it | [14:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | wait what are you doing! | [14:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | dude... | [14:04] |
| danielpbarron: | hm? | [14:04] |
| danielpbarron: | i can put back | [14:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, put 'em in and leave them there ty. | [14:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | an' gimme a second. | [14:04] |
| danielpbarron: | apparently items in our trade window count against my weight and i couldn't use the bank | [14:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | 176*5000 < says 4k | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | 731*1000+3500*500+42*5000+2239*100+10000*500+105*5000+876*2000+89*5000+176*5000 = 11516900 this batch. ima look at the pcs see wtf's with it. | [14:07] |
| danielpbarron: | what's that, one of the shaped slags? | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [14:07] |
| danielpbarron: | i have another one that's 5 | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | carry the change for next one. | [14:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok so i'm short 1000 flat clump of slag here. | [14:08] |
| danielpbarron: | it's there | [14:09] |
| danielpbarron: | all that's left after this is the drudgeries | [14:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [14:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | all good, drudgeries + 727k comin' my way. | [14:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty kindly! | [14:11] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [14:11] |
| danielpbarron: | and with that my shop page is also updated, some things removed, some prices changed (particularily the tokens and sacrifice service!!) | [14:12] |
| Gaxaro: | Hello | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey | [14:23] |
| Gaxaro: | Yeah just been busy with stuff since it's pretty much summer here in Sweden lol | [14:23] |
| Gaxaro: | Haven't had time with Eulora sadly but might be able to do some work today, just waiting on diana to get back since it seems she is afk | [14:24] |
| Gaxaro: | So she can remind me what i need to get lol | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [14:24] |
| Gaxaro: | Also for some reason i cannot connect to freenode on mirc client | [14:24] |
| Gaxaro: | So i am on the web atm | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron i think that may be new trade record, maybe | [14:25] |
| Gaxaro: | Also i noticed something last time i logged in today about congrangulation "name" crafted worth "Bitcoin amount" | [14:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | that'd be a pop. | [14:27] |
| Gaxaro: | What? | [14:27] |
| Gaxaro: | I'm not up to count with all the new updates for the games lol | [14:28] |
| Gaxaro: | So what has been going on with the game lately? | [14:43] |
| jurov: | barehanded exploring was nerfed, otherwise nothing new | [14:50] |
| jurov: | and "pop" means someone got nice amount of loot | [14:50] |
| zakorus123: | heya | [15:06] |
| diana_coman: | hi zakorus123 | [15:08] |
| jurov: | hi zakorus123 | [15:08] |
| zakorus123: | hi :) | [15:08] |
| zakorus123: | my internet is acting wierd | [15:09] |
| zakorus123: | brb gonna fiddle with my router a bit | [15:09] |
| Wise: | Hey hey | [15:16] |
| zakorus123: | whats up wise | [15:18] |
| zakorus123: | did u get set up? | [15:18] |
| Wise: | Yes, I´m all setup but still lost ;) | [15:20] |
| zakorus123: | lol we'll help where we can | [15:20] |
| zakorus123: | :) | [15:20] |
| Wise: | I´v transfered some coppers into the game, I´v taken a 30 minute walk around the island, and I found 2 bags of some small loot (not anything of the 3 items it says on the eulora.org page) | [15:20] |
| Wise: | II´v tried picking up stone, or cutting trees (I do have an axe I got from Mircea), but no luck. | [15:21] |
| zakorus123: | u should try buying some tools | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | those are prolly just dumped by people Wise | [15:21] |
| zakorus123: | oh | [15:21] |
| diana_coman: | the items on eulora page are NOT spawning anymore | [15:21] |
| zakorus123: | have you tried the /explore and /bot explore commands? | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | Wise, tools are for exploring | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | meaning type /explore | [15:22] |
| Wise: | Aha! But it was a good walk, I´m putting on weight.. | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | you can explore both with and without tools | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | try it both ways, at least you see how it works | [15:22] |
| Wise: | Oh, so when they said "Young man, go explore the world", they meant "Old fart, typ /explore" ? | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | heh, kind of both really | [15:23] |
| zakorus123: | lol yea | [15:23] |
| zakorus123: | XD | [15:23] |
| Wise: | Then I´m gonna try that and feel a little less lost :) | [15:23] |
| diana_coman: | and prolly more like "/bot explore 100000" to do both | [15:23] |
| Wise: | Baby steps ! | [15:23] |
| Wise: | One good thing about this is that I got my interrest up for bitcoin/crypto again. | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | aha :) | [15:24] |
| Wise: | Bad thing is most tradesites are closed I hade crypto on. Good thing is it wasn't much anyway :) | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | eulora's here to stay | [15:25] |
| Wise: | By the way, I trasnfered 0,01 BTC into copper, so I guess I could buy some stuff I need. | [15:25] |
| diana_coman: | prolly the skill books ? | [15:25] |
| Wise: | Yes maybe, but everyone is so damn tricky (and I like it!) in here, so now I'm not sure skills are any good anymore. | [15:26] |
| diana_coman: | otherwise I'd say don't hurry, take it slowly and very carefully | [15:26] |
| diana_coman: | heh, the truth is that nobody is 200\% sure of anything around here | [15:26] |
| diana_coman: | but anyway: why are they not good? | [15:26] |
| Wise: | We´ll you can't take it slower than I have so far, I do need to do something else than just stand in one place and repeate "Hello?" over and over again :) | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | true, I meant: don't blow all your 0.01BTC in one go | [15:27] |
| Wise: | Since I don't understand the game! I´m not sure what people are telling me, it's all crypted words, and I read somewhere that low lvl´s can contribute to highlvls and reach higher qlt (or something) in something. | [15:28] |
| diana_coman: | eh, things also change all the time, to add to the confusion | [15:28] |
| Wise: | I will try not to! I asked if it was possible to drop them, and was answerd "Possibly, but I wouldnt recommend it". Everyting so cryptic ;) | [15:28] |
| diana_coman: | to drop ..what? | [15:29] |
| Wise: | the coppers | [15:29] |
| Wise: | BTC, from inventory (i meant by misstake) | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | you want to rain money on the ground? | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | you can try | [15:29] |
| Wise: | I want to avoid it :) And Im cloumsy! | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | doubt it will work tho | [15:29] |
| Wise: | So, you told me about books before Diana. Are there many ingames, and if so, could I get (if only a few) examples of them? What they are (and have I got it right that all books are also connected to = a skill) | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | yes, books are connected to skills | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | a skill is given by either a skill item or a book | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | books are basically introduced into the game when players first reach some milestone ranks in the skill | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | so for instance there is Foxy's Dismal Scribblings on Tinkering introduced when my character reached (first to reach) skill 200 in tinkering | [15:35] |
| zakorus123: | servers up down? | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | books are cheaper than skill items | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | zakorus123, ? | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | server's up | [15:35] |
| zakorus123: | looks like it might be on my side | [15:35] |
| Wise: | Hm, ok. And gz in you'r nr 1 :) | [15:36] |
| diana_coman: | eh, not anymore in tinkering | [15:36] |
| diana_coman: | meanwhile Mircea got his tinkering to some 800+ I think | [15:36] |
| Wise: | You can live on old records! | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | which means that he got tinkering books in his name when he reached 400, then 600 then 800 | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | basically at each 200 ranks more, there is a new book | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | which provides xp (when used) for levels up to half of that rank | [15:37] |
| Wise: | So you get the books for free at these stages. Howcome then, someone can sell me a book? Is it because they don't use it themself then? | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | so the 200 book works for 0-100, the 400 book up to 200 etc | [15:38] |
| Wise: | Ah, ok. | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | you get a blueprint for the book | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | so you can make a book and loot more blueprints | [15:38] |
| Wise: | So you can craft more books? | [15:38] |
| Wise: | Cool, ok. | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | initially the blueprints were also kind of more easily available so yeah, most old people got "my" books anyway | [15:39] |
| Wise: | Yesterday you said something about not beeing able to skill att all in something, if I didnt read a book first. Correct? | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, if you don't have the skill, you can't train it, can you? | [15:39] |
| Wise: | How many players are there registerd/active? Eulorum has been active since 2013, right? | [15:39] |
| Wise: | Ok | [15:40] |
| diana_coman: | there are some statistics published by s.mg | [15:40] |
| diana_coman: | look on trilema under s.mg category | [15:40] |
| zakorus123: | no actually its been in development | [15:40] |
| zakorus123: | it only just started like 12 months-ish ago | [15:40] |
| diana_coman: | eulorum is the wiki and is player-created/maintained | [15:40] |
| diana_coman: | the game itself is pretty much still in beta, but best read the s.mg category as that tells the whole story | [15:41] |
| Wise: | Ah, so that´s why 2 different name? Eulora is the name of the game, Eulorum just a name choosen by the wiki creator? | [15:41] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [15:41] |
| Wise: | Cool | [15:41] |
| Wise: | Trust me, I'm not asking all these stupid question without reading. I'v read for hours, understand some parts, totall miss on others :) | [15:41] |
| diana_coman: | btw, kindly add/modify/update the wiki Wise as you go through it | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | Wise\x08>\x08\x0F We´ll you can't take it slower than I have so far, I do need to do something else than just stand in one place and repeate "Hello?" over and over again :) << ahahaha so cute. | [15:42] |
| Wise: | Been thinking about that, however, I´ll wait until I understand some more basic. | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: for instance you read there about the items that are to be found and I just told you above that they are not spawning anymore | [15:42] |
| Wise: | :) Hello Mircea | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | so kindly update that , even a mention: apparently not spawning anymore might help other new people | [15:43] |
| Wise: | Ok, I will try next time. | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | Wise\x08>\x08\x0F So you get the books for free at these stages. Howcome then, someone can sell me a book? Is it because they don't use it themself then? << nah, they don't get one book. theyt get one blueprint to make the book, which also loots more blueprints. so basically they get to own the making of that level book. | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | and eulora only opened for players june last year, so soon to be 1yo. | [15:44] |
| Wise: | Is there just 1 copy of that specific book? | [15:44] |
| Wise: | k, tx | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, as many as the person makes. | [15:44] |
| Wise: | I meant the blueprint then | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | more blueprints are looted Wise | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, person who gets it can usually loot more. | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | hence, obtained | [15:44] |
| Wise: | Hmm, ok. | [15:45] |
| diana_coman: | the looting mechanism is something to get your head around | [15:45] |
| Wise: | So, now in-game, instead of exploring, i should /explore , yes? | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya lol. so did you manage to loot anything yet at all ? | [15:45] |
| Wise: | I looted 2 bags, that´s all. | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | bags ?! | [15:45] |
| diana_coman: | neah, those are not looted | [15:45] |
| diana_coman: | he found two items he means | [15:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | wut bags. | [15:46] |
| Wise: | And when you told me to explore yesterday, I walked around the Island :) Today i´ll try /explore :) | [15:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh. | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | probably whatever people left | [15:46] |
| zakorus123: | those are left by other players | [15:46] |
| zakorus123: | lol | [15:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol well, walking around the island ain't all bad :D | [15:46] |
| Wise: | I had to pinch myself not to take shortcuts. | [15:46] |
| Wise: | But now I´m a Vagabond and destined for bigger adventures. | [15:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | Wise, as a primer: whatever you do on eulora has a cost, let's call this input; whatever you get as a result of your action has some value (possibly 0 too), let's call that output; if the difference output-input is positive, you *might* get some of it (or more than it) as...loot | [15:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's how i got the 0.05 btc pop earlier today mwahahaha | [15:48] |
| Wise: | And I suppose, with the wrong skills, and wrong blueprint, and right materials, I could burn coppers like icecream on a sunny day? | [15:48] |
| zakorus123: | gz | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | oh, burning coppers is SO easy Wise | [15:48] |
| zakorus123: | sooo easy | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | don't even need wrong skills or wrong blueprints | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [15:48] |
| Wise: | ;) | [15:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | on the good news front, my storage is back to "you can't store more than 200 types of blueprints" | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | honestly i was missing that. panic city@ | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | for that matter check the durability (quality) of your tool Wise | [15:49] |
| Wise: | Can something be told about the background mechanics? Like "It´s not a casion, random loot" :) ? | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | every time you /explore with the tool equipped, it will wear-down a bit | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | until it's useless | [15:49] |
| Wise: | Ok | [15:49] |
| Gaxaro: | Anyone have the link for foxy's bot commands? I been looking around for like 20 min but haven't been able to find it lol | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | the most important thing would be that total spent by players = total looted by players. | [15:50] |
| Wise: | And my "Stone adze" is such a tool? | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | time someone put those on the wiki huh | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | so by no means random | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman totally. | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | yes Wise stone adze is a tool | [15:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey, 9 players online. record. | [15:51] |
| zakorus123: | anyone got extra cft bps at 100 or 150 q | [15:51] |
| zakorus123: | oh wait | [15:51] |
| zakorus123: | i promised to do a click for you didnt i | [15:52] |
| Wise: | Ok, cool | [15:52] |
| zakorus123: | diana | [15:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got some q 158 | [15:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | which one of you is blazeblue ? | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | that's gax | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah! | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. used to be i knew who everyone was. | [15:53] |
| Wise: | Whats up with quality? When it´s 0, it breaks down, or with a higher one, i get higher results? | [15:53] |
| Wise: | I did my first explore! | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | items are worth more to merchant if higher q | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey wd. what did you get ? | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | well done Wise | [15:53] |
| Wise: | Totally opposite from yesterday. No walking. | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [15:53] |
| Gaxaro: | Yup that's me lol | [15:53] |
| zakorus123: | lol | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | he means the tool there mircea_popescu | [15:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, well once it gets low enough you can't use it anymore. | [15:54] |
| Wise: | I was not succesfull! | [15:54] |
| Wise: | :) | [15:54] |
| Wise: | But I will be! | [15:54] |
| zakorus123: | keep trying | [15:55] |
| zakorus123: | it usually takes 100+ attempts to find something | [15:55] |
| zakorus123: | unless your using tools | [15:55] |
| zakorus123: | then its 4-5 | [15:56] |
| zakorus123: | or depending on location | [15:56] |
| zakorus123: | it could be 1-2 | [15:56] |
| zakorus123: | depending on skill results may vary | [15:56] |
| zakorus123: | hehehee | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | zakorus123, trade | [15:56] |
| zakorus123: | wish us both good luck | [15:57] |
| zakorus123: | hoping for a good pop | [15:57] |
| Wise: | When i stod still and explored, at the market, it said "Not successful", now, when I walked and explored, I got "You stop working". Did I stop because I walked, or it´s a normal phrase? | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, could do with more luck really | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | you need to stay still until the explore finishes | [15:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, to celebrate teh new players online record, ima give 9 CFT bps to any noob that trades me in the next 10 minutes. | [15:57] |
| Wise: | k, tx | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | basically if you move, then it fails and tool is still worn | [15:57] |
| zakorus123: | mircae im busy with dianas click | [15:58] |
| zakorus123: | can you give me the bps later? | [15:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | o noes! | [15:58] |
| zakorus123: | like in 2 hours when its done | [15:58] |
| zakorus123: | its a big craft | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | zakorus123, I'll give you 10 bps | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | don't worry | [15:59] |
| zakorus123: | ok ty diana | [15:59] |
| zakorus123: | :) | [15:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey, nice :) | [15:59] |
| zakorus123: | i gotta go do some chores | [16:00] |
| zakorus123: | brb in an hlour or so | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | 7 minutes. | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | Wise, did you get your free bps from mircea_popescu ? | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | one rule is clear so far in eulora: if you can get something, get it ; then think of whether to use it, but first get it anyway | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | awww so much for my click | [16:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. | [16:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | omaygerd last minute | [16:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand it's done. | [16:09] |
| zakorus123: | internet crashed | [16:14] |
| zakorus123: | sorry | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | whole internet? o.o | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [16:15] |
| zakorus123: | mine | [16:15] |
| zakorus123: | yes | [16:15] |
| zakorus123: | hope it didnt cancel the craft | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | ofc it did | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | disconnect is a bitch | [16:15] |
| zakorus123: | yeah | [16:15] |
| zakorus123: | it loks like craft got canceled top | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | I took the screens, but the clogs got worn-out anyway, ugh | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | wheres the wooden? | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | :((( | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | thing is: is you connection fine now or not really? | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | not rlly | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | internet is experiencing issues | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | comcast is expanding its lines so its to be expected | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | so then best leave it for another time | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | lemme give u ur stuff back | [16:16] |
| zakorus123: | and well do this later | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | I'm at 57 289 | [16:17] |
| Wise: | sorry, was away | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | aww Wise | [16:17] |
| zakorus123: | 57 289 what | [16:17] |
| zakorus123: | ur missing the z coord | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | that's first and last coordinates zakorus123 | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | nope, the middle one is y and it doesn't really matter | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | so give some 57 1 289 | [16:18] |
| zakorus123: | ok | [16:18] |
| zakorus123: | where u go | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | got it | [16:19] |
| zakorus123: | did u get the clogs? | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:19] |
| zakorus123: | good | [16:19] |
| zakorus123: | i think i might be crashing again soon | [16:19] |
| zakorus123: | lol | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | lol, get yourself some anti-crash then | [16:20] |
| zakorus123: | lol if only that existed | [16:20] |
| zakorus123: | gonna see if i cant call comcast and see whats up with the internet | [16:21] |
| zakorus123: | i already know they announced laying down lots of new fiber in my area | [16:22] |
| zakorus123: | thats probably it | [16:22] |
| zakorus123: | aaaand crashed | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [16:23] |
| Zakorus123_: | ughhh | [16:23] |
| Zakorus123_: | i saw that coming a mile away | [16:23] |
| Zakorus123_: | ill see u guys when the internet is a bit more stable | [16:24] |
| Zakorus123_: | later | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | laters zakorus123 | [16:24] |
| Wise: | So, I have my axe on, it´s down moe then 2000 ql, I did 17 /explore, and all fails. Am I doing something wrong, or totally normal? | [16:28] |
| Wise: | adze* | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | probably due to lack of skill although I can't really tell tbh | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | did it say "you were not successful"? | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | for each of the attempts I mean | [16:29] |
| Wise: | Yes | [16:32] |
| Wise: | It´s probably just Lootius beeing angry with me again. Happend before. | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | haha, could be; and yes, if it said that each and every time, it's just that really: not successful | [16:36] |
| Wise: | So 11k ql down on my adze, and not successful. I see now it says charges: 0. Might that have something to do with it? | [16:49] |
| Wise: | Stone adze broke, not usefull anymore, and just "No success" for almost 40 minutes :o Lootius must be furious with me. | [16:56] |
| diana_coman: | no, charges are not yet used at all | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | aww Wise | [17:06] |
| Wise: | ;( | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | listen, want better to do some clicks for me ? I'll pay you some coppers for it and you see how it goes | [17:07] |
| Wise: | I would be happy to try that tommorow maybe, will be off for today :) | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | cool | [17:08] |
| Wise: | Thanx for your help! | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | yw | [17:08] |
| hanbot: | <diana_coman> I mean: for instance you read there about the items that are to be found and I just told you above that they are not spawning anymore << you know, it -says- they used to spawn and that new players will have to find other ways to get skills. | [17:57] |
| alikim: | jurov: maybe for people running more that one version of the client it's not a good idea to use \%APPDATA\% because every version overrides stuff there. If I go thru all config files and change \%APPDATA\% to some local folder it might fix all such problems | [21:52] |
| alikim: | \%APPDATA\% is not hardcoded in the source as well, is it? | [21:56] |
| jurov: | why would someone run multiple versions? | [21:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's not a good idea to use \%windows-bullshit\% anyway anywhere. | [21:58] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: it's only equivalent of /home/ossa | [21:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm hatin'. | [22:00] |
| jurov: | alikim: you're free to change the code to use \%appdata\%\\eulora-(version)-(build)-(developer)-(moonphase) but leaving the cruft there every time client is updated is not friendly to en users | [22:01] |
| jurov: | *end users | [22:02] |
| jurov: | or is such consideration beyond windows programmers? wouldn't surprise me ;) | [22:06] |
| alikim: | jurov: no, I suggest you move evrything you store in \%APPDATA\% to a folder inside the client, like "EuloraV0.1.1/AppData", that will leave no garbage and serve equally well people who have one or multiple clients. Make sense to do as apparently I'm not the first person running into this kind of problem | [22:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | not a bad idea. the fucking notion that an app uses any path that's not relative to its location is anathema | [23:24] |
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