| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> i'd say of the 3.3mn this cost, maculature prolly covers 1mn ; leaves 2.3mn to be covered out of ~80k bv of bps. if we credit the 1/3 loot thing, a fair price for these bps would be 1000\%. <- myeah, sounds quite similar to my experience getting bps so far tbh; fwiw it really seems to be something that might work better at lower skill really (+ high q cons bp though) | [02:40] |
| Birdman: | is that the secret to making noobs useful in clicking consids? i used my lower q looted ones and got q5 out of noob click | [02:41] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, there is no secret really, not sure what is not making sense for you | [02:42] |
| diana_coman: | you used low q bundle and low q bp and low skill, what do you expect to get if not low q? | [02:42] |
| Birdman: | and you used what to get over q100 from a noob | [02:43] |
| diana_coman: | I reported in the logs, just read it | [02:43] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, 3600 ibs 151q , 2mn total, let me know if you want it | [02:49] |
| diana_coman: | I can also sell 2000wm q1, as previously agreed - http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-05-09.log.html#t16:25:16 - 500 each, so another 1mn | [02:57] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Monday, 2016-05-09 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | after this I guess I'll have to offer wm+ibs only as part of a tool-provision agreement | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, I'll take 20 tokens | [05:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm is teh server down ? | [07:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman not terribly sure low q bps are actually useful though. | [07:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman and yes i'll take the ibs and the wm | [07:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | so the server wasn't down, i just lost conn overnight ? | [07:46] |
| diana_coman: | yes mircea_popescu server was up all the time | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, do you consider 138q low q now? | [07:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool deal. | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | no bps I mean | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | on bps* | [07:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | well no, but i mean as opposed to 7 or w/e | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | I don't follow | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> diana_coman not terribly sure low q bps are actually useful though. <- what are you talking about here? | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | yes, q7 and the like are not very useful, hence I chose to shred them rather than higher q | [07:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman> is that the secret to making noobs useful in clicking consids? i used my lower q looted ones and got q5 out of noob click < | [07:58] |
| diana_coman: | but if this is about getting noobs to click cons - I got 138q from the noob | [07:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | not ALL the log is about yourself you know! | [07:58] |
| diana_coman: | that because he put in low q everything | [07:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | for whatever reason! | [07:58] |
| diana_coman: | well then why did you ping me there, lol | [07:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess i got confused :D | [07:58] |
| diana_coman: | lol, let me get those wm and ibs out | [08:01] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, trade | [08:04] |
| diana_coman: | happy bottling | [08:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | danke schon | [08:04] |
| diana_coman: | if only I had enough tools and cft and lbn to explore all day (and night, ha) | [08:05] |
| diana_coman: | was there something else you needed for making tools? | [08:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | didn't you buy a shitton of lbn ? no way you used all that up ?! | [08:06] |
| diana_coman: | not yet, no, lbn still ok, but running out of tools pretty much | [08:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well... bps. as it is kinda running out | [08:06] |
| diana_coman: | and I need all of them basically | [08:06] |
| diana_coman: | aha, well, hopefully when hanbot gets in and fills my order for 20 tokens | [08:06] |
| diana_coman: | with a bit of luck afterwards I should get some bps too | [08:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | a you got mcguyver cons ? | [08:07] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [08:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | nb. | [08:07] |
| diana_coman: | although basic tools are actually tink, not mcguyver | [08:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | so imp might come from mcguyver I suppose, but basic would come from tink cons, no? | [08:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd expect so ya | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | got a few tink too | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | no bouq and no gung-ho though | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | any more cons coming out? | [08:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibru. | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | looted 46 ss 238, nice | [08:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty cool! | [08:17] |
| diana_coman: | ftr, that ibs I just sold was made with mixed flotsam to end up some...40q | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | but high q sr | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | quite a bitch to figure out the optimum combination, kind of settled for some reasonable gain basically rather than fully solving that | [08:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | srsly. | [08:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | then you know, six months down the road you make the grenadine discovery, "omfg so you mean i've been fuckingmyself all this time ?!?!?!" | [08:23] |
| diana_coman: | lol, that is certainly possible, but essentially on a different side, namely selling it in the first place and then settling on the price for it | [08:23] |
| diana_coman: | since bps are still an unknown value | [08:23] |
| diana_coman: | if I am to take what you said earlier and consider bp as half the value of output then yeah, I should have sold those for way more than that | [08:24] |
| diana_coman: | and what, have you fully solved that for your tinkering? | [08:25] |
| diana_coman: | foxy's a part-time, amateur tinkerer, lol | [08:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | have not, no. | [08:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | moreover, teh cons bp floats. | [08:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | particularly hard to fucking solve. | [08:28] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, well, at least basic stuff like basic tinkering would still be a good start | [08:28] |
| diana_coman: | meanwhile on the gathering front: I CAN get any rare stuff by throwing some cs at it (well, A LOT of cs in some cases) | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | on the other hand I can't get some basic sb and the like the same way | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [08:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [08:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | so far euloran unknowns expand faster than euloran player knowledge does. quadratically so. | [08:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | pledges to keep this scandalous outrage going for as long as possibru. | [08:31] |
| diana_coman: | or possibly erratically-euloratically so | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's some rather nice confusion being loaded up in the cannons as we speak :D | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | oh hi DicePower how's it going? | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | hola DicePower | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | confusion is probably one of the most abundant resources in eulora | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | no need to go and find it - it will find you | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | zakorus123, plox don't vanish over the next few days as I'll have more lucrative clicks for you as soon as I get some tokens | [08:34] |
| alikim: | I just threw out about 100 keys - they do not decay ;( | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim have you logged out ? | [08:38] |
| alikim: | storage got full | [08:38] |
| alikim: | yes ofc | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | were the claims unlocked ? | [08:38] |
| alikim: | I had 100 bits and keys, now I have 16 bits left and no keys, they bleed out like crazy | [08:38] |
| alikim: | ofc unlocked | [08:39] |
| alikim: | can't accumulate enough bit for a long run | [08:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [08:49] |
| alikim: | some of these do decay but not enough to cache up bits | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | will be looking into this alikim | [08:52] |
| alikim: | thanks | [08:52] |
| jurov: | yes, some keys refuse to decay. i even made a function to scan inventory for these and throw em | [10:22] |
| hanbot: | <diana_coman> hanbot, I'll take 20 tokens << cool, workin' on it. | [11:18] |
| diana_coman: | yay, let me know when ready | [14:32] |
| Birdman: | sigh, so the trainer does exchange your copious smaller coins for million coins when you train | [16:07] |
| zakorus123: | that sucks | [16:20] |
| zakorus123: | i kinda like having alot of smaller coins | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman put em in bank | [16:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | then he'll make change free of charge. | [16:57] |
| Birdman: | yeah thats what i do, but i had all my small coins on me so i trained and it stuck em all together | [18:23] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu were you interested in wwb? | [18:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [18:24] |
| Birdman: | alright, im thinking what i want to price resources at is <q100 30\%, q100-200 50\%, q200+ 100\% is that agreeable? | [18:25] |
| Birdman: | i've about a stack of bits left to work through then ill get back to you on how much, should have a few hundred tlc with it too | [18:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun think i'm paying over 130\% for wwb. | [18:26] |
| Birdman: | no problem | [18:27] |
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