#eulora Logs for 14 Apr 2016

April 14th, 2016 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> diana_coman> I still have the wm ones << selling these btw ? <- I have no idea how to price lottery tickets essentially so I can't really sell them [02:20]
Birdman: its getting close! ^_^ [02:34]
Birdman: wooo my first pop! 6mn no less! [03:06]
Birdman: 4424 tlc q125 [03:07]
diana_coman: heh, well done [03:11]
mircea_popescu: makes sense. [06:20]
mircea_popescu: wd Birdman [06:20]
mircea_popescu: so i'm doing a run of 1018 adzes. the bundle is q 204 ; the bp is valued 1002. this means i'm puttng in 1018×(9352 × 2.04+1002) = 20441521.44 ie 20.5mn [06:26]
mircea_popescu: curious what'll be coming out. [06:26]
mircea_popescu: promises to be 2 straight days of crafting in any case. [06:28]
mircea_popescu: also Birdman : 13mn for your tlc ? [06:34]
alikim: mmm... I won't try it but it seems you can create unlimited anoumt of money on the server [08:35]
alikim: is that on todo list? [08:36]
danielpbarron: you should try it [08:37]
diana_coman: o.o [08:37]
alikim: if mircea wants it I could [08:38]
diana_coman: how is that alikim ? [08:38]
diana_coman: how would you do that I mean? [08:38]
danielpbarron: i'm sure he would like you to confirm that it is possible or not [08:38]
danielpbarron: i once found an infinite item bug [08:38]
alikim: what if the server goes down? [08:39]
danielpbarron: so it goes [08:39]
alikim: hmm.. tempting [08:39]
danielpbarron: i don't know how you can even claim to have found such a thing without actually testing it [08:40]
danielpbarron: and anyway, if you go overboard with it, the money can just be deleted afterwards [08:40]
diana_coman: he didn't claim he found anything he just said it seems it might be possible; guess the thing to do is to try it and see if it really is possible [08:40]
danielpbarron: alikim, if you are wondering if you'll get in trouble or something, I can assure you that you won't [08:41]
alikim: kk [08:42]
mircea_popescu: alikim o.O ? [08:44]
mircea_popescu: go for it, let's see this wonde.r [08:44]
mircea_popescu: alikim so did it work ? [08:46]
alikim: I'll explain it to diana, not sure it's a good idea to put it into a logged chat just in case [08:47]
mircea_popescu: no, she explained it to me, test it in practice. [08:48]
mircea_popescu: does it work ? [08:48]
alikim: it will take too much time to do manually but I will explain, just a sec [08:49]
mircea_popescu: ah, ok then. i thought you can try it easily. [08:49]
mircea_popescu: reading server code to see atm ; but a practical test is always good. [08:50]
mircea_popescu: aaaand alikim's vuln is confirmed :D server will be down for maintenance nao. [09:07]
mircea_popescu: hopefully we can bring it back today. [09:07]
mircea_popescu: but when it's back, alikim you get 1mn base value of whatever resource or ingredient you want, lemme know what it'll be. [09:09]
alikim: what is 1mn? [09:10]
mircea_popescu: one million. [09:10]
alikim: ok, thanks! I'll take a rain check on that one, till I finish my bot do some mining and figure out what resource I'd like to have, coz now I've no idea [09:13]
mircea_popescu: aite. [09:17]
alikim: damn I was gonna finish my shiny new trading window and money widget [09:24]
alikim: how long do think it'll take? a few hours? [09:26]
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> hopefully we can bring it back today. " [09:26]
alikim: what's today? 23:36 for me [09:26]
mircea_popescu: it's kinda vague. [09:26]
alikim: btw, does the server check the distance between a player and the trading robot to open trade window? [10:27]
diana_coman: yes alikim [10:30]
diana_coman: but feel free to try it ofc [10:30]
alikim: just asking, the most obvious thing to do is to blow up the robot model so it's the size of the island and try to click it from whereever you are [10:32]
alikim: I don't wanaa dig into 3d stuff however [10:33]
mircea_popescu: alikim everything should work in principle. people disregarding that principle and trying it out anyway is how we find out things. [11:48]
alikim: amen [11:48]
jurov: alikim how could you understand the code so fast? [14:01]
jurov: uhhh, server is still being fixed? [14:12]
mircea_popescu: jurov he's fucking talented. [14:33]
mircea_popescu: anyway - not exactly being fixed, being checked. the thing is, server is tolerant, client ends up with the impression that - for instance - if you click on an item to drop it and then click it back in the inventory you've doubled it. this gets fixed on similar ping. by the same principle client can end up thinking it has a negative balance etc. server is not of the same idea, and this gets eventually flushed out correctly - bu [14:35]
mircea_popescu: t meh. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: things could / should be done better is the truth. [14:36]
jurov: oh that, i solved long ago by strictly scheduling one game state change per frame [14:37]
jurov: and never more [14:37]
jurov: foxybot does not use frame evets, but it has such collision avoidance, too [14:38]
jurov: frame events have the advantage that the client actually visibly draws what is happening, while still plenty of speed to do anything [14:41]
Birdman: <mircea_popescu>also Birdman : 13mn for your tlc ? << sounds like a deal [14:56]
mircea_popescu: aha. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: still, gotta drain the swamp bit by bit. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: and the server should be coming back up shortly. [16:23]
Birdman: mircea_popescu you around for these tlc? also, have a good 7k wwb if you want em 30\% over bv [16:50]
Birdman: q71 [16:50]
mircea_popescu: Birdman yup trade me [16:50]
Birdman: think i saw you mention you could use some [16:50]
Birdman: you did want the wwb? [16:51]
mircea_popescu: yep [16:51]
Birdman: ah gotta withdraw em 1 sec [16:51]
mircea_popescu: kk [16:52]
mircea_popescu: 7014 * .71 * 1.3 * 141 + 13000000 =13912823.002 [16:53]
Birdman: not sure i have change [16:53]
mircea_popescu: 8 coins ?! [16:53]
Birdman: i've like 18k coppers [16:54]
mircea_popescu: check me out, i do [16:54]
mircea_popescu: eenjoy! [16:54]
Birdman: thanks [16:54]
mircea_popescu: this guy lol, this trade and the sentiments got me for like 40mn. [16:55]
mircea_popescu: over a coupla weeks or so ? [16:55]
Birdman: i do what i can [16:55]
mircea_popescu: birdman, eulora's best rags to riches story. [16:55]
Birdman: lol perfect [16:55]
mircea_popescu: i remember a few months ago when you started with almost nothing! [16:56]
Birdman: yep think i built an ord for dan and he gave me some 100k ecu, then started doing the grass thing [16:56]
Birdman: i have put btc into the game though, but i cant imagine im in the red [16:57]
mircea_popescu: well good for you. [16:58]
Birdman: thanks [16:58]
Birdman: diana_coman i could use some more bod / dt [16:59]
Birdman: hanbot whenever you're ready i can buy those tokens [16:59]
mircea_popescu: im prolly gonna auction 1k adzes next week sometime, so dun blow it all in one place :D [17:00]
Birdman: hah! thats an intense amount [17:01]
mircea_popescu: btw danielpbarron you about ? [17:24]
danielpbarron: ya [17:24]
mircea_popescu: come pick up all this stuff ? [17:24]
danielpbarron: k [17:24]
mircea_popescu: anyone selling a stack or two of sb ? [17:24]
Birdman: anyone have some cft for sale? [17:37]
mircea_popescu: what q ? [17:41]
Birdman: preferably q80 [17:43]
Birdman: i think that'd match up pretty well with my tiny output q [17:44]
Birdman: but if you have higher q ill just build smalls with less threads [17:44]
mircea_popescu: yeah prolly can help you there lemme see [17:50]
Birdman: thanks [17:50]
mircea_popescu: 542 q 92 ? [17:50]
mircea_popescu: 953 q 93 [17:51]
Birdman: sounds good [17:51]
Birdman: \% over bv? [17:51]
mircea_popescu: looks [17:51]
mircea_popescu: say 1.3 ? [17:52]
Birdman: sounds good [17:53]
Birdman: building an ord way out here, be back soon [17:53]
mircea_popescu: kk [17:54]
Birdman: gonna build all my old ords just for the boost in building. its an interesting line of thought, because every q increase i get i make 1\% more on everything i build thereafter [17:54]
Birdman: then it sort of compounds with whatever \% over bv i charge [17:54]
Birdman: mircea_popescu here [17:56]
mircea_popescu: 542 * 180 * .92 * 1.3 = 116681.76 [17:58]
Birdman: 323k for both [17:59]
mircea_popescu: ye [17:59]
Birdman: thanks! [17:59]
mircea_popescu: 953 * 180 * .93 * 1.3 = 116681.76 = 207391.86 [17:59]
mircea_popescu: cheerios. [17:59]
Birdman: lol holy shit [18:00]
Birdman: goin through my old keys had a claim with nearly a stack of wpl in there [18:00]
mircea_popescu: o.O [18:01]
mircea_popescu: ill buy [18:01]
Birdman: you'll buy all my wpl? [18:02]
mircea_popescu: sure. [18:02]
Birdman: kk ill get back to you on that one [18:02]
Birdman: danielpbarron are you trying to sell any of those SI? [18:16]
Birdman: sigh, idk why i thought it was a good idea to use a cs on the edge of the map [18:20]
Birdman: yorick you here? [18:31]
Birdman: want some free moneyz? [18:31]
mircea_popescu: lol noobs back in high demand ? [18:41]
Birdman: nah, just had some 305 wpl right on the edge of the map directly across from town, went to go lug it back and accidently reset back to the ord, twice, so i cant be bothered to get it [18:47]
Birdman: orb ** not ord [18:47]
mircea_popescu: lol [19:38]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile danielpbarron paid me 7 odd million, so i'm not going entirely bankrupt over here [19:38]
mircea_popescu: in fact, over the past week or so i show close to 20mn trade and a net balance of under 1mn [19:39]
mircea_popescu: wtf mercantilism is this ;/ [19:39]
hanbot: <Birdman> hanbot whenever you're ready i can buy those tokens << will be in town for a spell [19:39]
mircea_popescu: it sucks tho, when you get a screenfull of "you looted feelings!1111" and it turns out you got 61 [19:40]
hanbot: yeah some especially lackadaisical loot messages would be nice [19:42]
Birdman: will be there after this ord builds hanbot [19:44]
Birdman: ill come take out all my wpl too for you mircea_popescu [19:44]
mircea_popescu: coo [19:44]
mircea_popescu: hanbot it's funny too - sometimes i get a lot of loot messages and few items [19:48]
mircea_popescu: just now, got 2 messages, 200+ feelings [19:49]
hanbot: how dare it overlook your feelings like that. [19:53]
mircea_popescu: lol [19:53]
mircea_popescu: can't wait to see what the numina market will be after sunday [19:54]
mircea_popescu: you bidding btw ? [19:54]
hanbot: i plan to, yeah. [19:54]
mircea_popescu: cool [19:54]
Birdman: ready hanbot [20:04]
hanbot: thanks [20:04]
Birdman: mircea_popescu 6954 q83; 55 q213; 557 q162 [20:05]
Birdman: thanks [20:05]
Birdman: mircea_popescu you mentioned i could make a shop page on the wiki? [20:10]
alikim: jurov: it took me a whole week to figure out a fare share of it, not that fast [20:15]
mircea_popescu: Birdman i dun see why not ? you got your user page no ? [20:42]
mircea_popescu: and hit me for the wpl [20:42]
Birdman: no [20:42]
mircea_popescu: alikim "fair" [20:43]
mircea_popescu: Birdman so we trading wpl ? [20:44]
alikim: you are right, speaking 3 languages is a bitch ;) [20:44]
Birdman: ya [20:44]
mircea_popescu: hey, you fixed my game, least i can do is fix your spelling :D [20:44]
alikim: ;D [20:45]
mircea_popescu: what's the other two ? [20:45]
Birdman: mircea_popescu its all in the table [20:45]
alikim: mmm.. I rather will not divulge ;) [20:45]
danielpbarron: o.O [20:46]
mircea_popescu: (6954 * .83 + 55 * 2.13 + 557 * 1.62) * 1.3 * 152 =1341962.856 [20:46]
Birdman: sounds good [20:46]
mircea_popescu: got it. [20:47]
mircea_popescu: let me guess, farsi and basque [20:47]
Birdman: ty [20:48]
mircea_popescu: danke Birdman [20:48]
mircea_popescu: btw you got any stacks of basics worth teh mention ? [20:52]
Birdman: ill check in a bit [20:53]
Birdman: bout 6k high q birds nests [20:59]
mircea_popescu: i want like 100k f / sr [21:04]
Birdman: what did you find some oxy clean, davout ? [21:27]

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