| diana_coman: | morning | [02:25] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow, I got an ordinary md claim while mining bare-handed | [02:25] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron I guess that is an idea re things we haven't found | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | at least until spirover gets fixed or something | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | I kind of increasingly wonder when will spirover die though | [02:27] |
| chetty__: | no more stuck on explores? | [03:10] |
| diana_coman: | chetty__ I was stuck a bit earlier again | [03:19] |
| diana_coman: | and rather weird as I hadn't been overweight before that | [03:19] |
| diana_coman: | the bot was exploring happily but the inventory had gotten full so it was exploring with an ennum | [03:20] |
| diana_coman: | I stopped it, went to the village | [03:20] |
| diana_coman: | stored stuff | [03:20] |
| diana_coman: | re-logged in to get rid of keys/bits of nothing | [03:20] |
| diana_coman: | and then it was stuck | [03:20] |
| diana_coman: | re-logged in again and it was fine | [03:20] |
| chetty__: | hmm dpb had also just relogged cause of keys/bits | [03:39] |
| diana_coman: | I am stuck again chetty__ | [07:37] |
| chetty__: | dang. what did you do just before? | [07:55] |
| diana_coman: | just the same as earlier really: bot got inventory overflowing so stopped it, logged out and in to get rid of the old keys, tried to explore again | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | maybe related to the overflow, I don't know? | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | it's still stuck (I just logged in back again and first thing tried was exploring - still stuck) | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | chetty__ ^ | [08:10] |
| chetty__: | yeah it prolly wont clear until I restart server, but I need to figure out whats causing it, not just keep restarting | [08:13] |
| chetty__: | so was inventory overflow filling up hand slot? | [08:16] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | both this time and previous time | [08:19] |
| diana_coman: | so far based on all this, that'd be about my best guess, that it has to do with this overflow | [08:19] |
| chetty__: | hmm ok that gives me something to look at, lets see if I can do something with that and restart | [08:20] |
| diana_coman: | ok, thanks | [08:20] |
| chetty: | server reset in 5 | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | awww right in the middle of my craft | [08:47] |
| chetty: | oops srry | [08:48] |
| chetty: | hmm it may have time to finish | [08:49] |
| chetty: | lmao well you keep doing more .. | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol, | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | dun worry about it i'll just restart it once it's back up | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | but what would a game be without players bitching! | [08:50] |
| chetty: | :P | [08:50] |
| chetty: | quiet | [08:50] |
| chetty: | q | [08:51] |
| chetty: | done, pls report any issues with /explore or merchant promptly | [08:52] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, the merchant still has trouble updating its wares | [08:57] |
| diana_coman: | lol, daniel sold it 2 beetles it seems to get his load of beetles | [08:58] |
| diana_coman: | and in any case, not sure if it's intended mircea_popescu for the merchant to basically replenish stocks at each server reset? | [08:58] |
| chetty__: | so the beetles he sold it, then bought back are still there? | [08:58] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | and moreover, I tried again the thing with the nuts | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | and it still worked the same | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | what is the thing with the nuts again ? | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | so I bought 1 nut and it threw me into another tab | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | after which I got back to the same tab | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | and bought that nut again | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | it works for all the rare items at the merchant | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | tsk. | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | that's why daniel sold it the beetle | [08:59] |
| chetty__: | but you paid for it both times? | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | so that he can then buy 10k of them or whatever he needed | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | now at least one has to pay,that *is* sorted | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess the merchant needs more tinkering. | [09:00] |
| diana_coman: | from what I gather, until yesterday it wasn't only unlimited supply, but also free supply, lol | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [09:01] |
| chetty__: | alright, no good, but not deadly. so I can work on that issue latter .. its as best I can tell a cache vs. db issue .... | [09:01] |
| diana_coman: | it certainly sounds like that | [09:01] |
| diana_coman: | it's still weird though that it would remember that it had a nut someone sold him ages ago | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | and then just offer it again after a server reset | [09:02] |
| chetty__: | Spirover gets his memory from MP | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | if I sell him now a tove and BUY IT BACK, he would then supposedly sell a tove after reset | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | so mircea_popescu ^ | [09:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha/ | [09:03] |
| chetty__: | unless of course I fix it on the next reset ...unpredictable :P | [09:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | just gotta wipe out merchant stocks before resets from now on. | [09:03] |
| diana_coman: | of course, I was just trying to clarify the current state, since it seems it is not clear, lol | [09:03] |
| chetty__: | well details are useful me, chasing elusive bugs ... or beetles | [09:04] |
| diana_coman: | it should have been the magical purple snail and the elusive dung beetle or something :))) | [09:04] |
| diana_coman: | indeed | [09:04] |
| diana_coman: | so far exploring is ok, but it usually is after the reset- I'll let it get overflow again to test, if you want that tested | [09:10] |
| chetty__: | well I am sure it will get tested, and I am curious how it functions now. that stack of overflow items in the hands is a nasty issue | [09:11] |
| diana_coman: | well, since you fixed the explore-with-key issue, the overflow doesn't really get worse than 1 key in hand | [09:12] |
| diana_coman: | since once it gets there, one can't find anything anymore as far as I can tell :)) | [09:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | ^ | [09:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. | [09:12] |
| diana_coman: | yes, that is fine really, I don't mind it at all | [09:13] |
| diana_coman: | but apparently it still is enough to get stuck otherwise | [09:13] |
| diana_coman: | so that single item overflow | [09:13] |
| chetty__: | you stuck? | [09:13] |
| diana_coman: | not now, no | [09:13] |
| diana_coman: | not yet :))) | [09:13] |
| diana_coman: | it will take a bit to fill up the inventory I guess | [09:13] |
| diana_coman: | btw chetty__ whenever you have some time, I have some claims for you to build if you want to | [09:15] |
| chetty__: | oh cool, I figured on playing some later today | [09:16] |
| diana_coman: | yaaay chetty__ so far it seems good really - it got to overflow, it said that wasn't an exploration tool, I cleared up the hand and explored again and it worked! | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | thank you | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | there was just one single "you can't explore in the same place..." but it might really have been because I hadn't moved enough, I can't really tell | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, it cleared up afterwards | [09:52] |
| chetty__: | ok, so far so good then | [10:02] |
| chetty: | server rest in 5, will be down about 10 min | [10:28] |
| chetty: | oops srry about that I mistyped and took it down a little fast :P | [10:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | so : there was an error discovered wrt Supplication of Old Lists Draft. the item was mistakenly valued at 121, instead of the correct 5207. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | all held stacks have been adjusted (rounded up). thus if you owned 46 of the things now you own 2 etc. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, Mircea's Dismal Scribblings on Tinkering and Foxy's Dismal Scribblings on Gathering are now available in game. ima give myself and diana_coman 1 recipe of respectively to celebrate! | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | (they're also lootable via booq.) | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | and server will be back in ~5 minutes | [10:35] |
| chetty: | done | [10:41] |
| danielpbarron: | i finally bothered to sacrifice my sparks | [11:33] |
| danielpbarron: | result is not very novel | [11:33] |
| danielpbarron: | same as when i did the other rare stuff | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | grotesque token | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | no loot | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | so whenever we're both on diana_coman, i have a token for you | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | also worth noting, only got 1 rank up | [11:34] |
| danielpbarron: | some very odd math behind sacrifice | [11:35] |
| danielpbarron: | seems like no matter what quality or base value inputs i use, always get 1 rank up | [11:35] |
| danielpbarron: | and it took longer than an hour for the sparks sacrifice | [11:35] |
| danielpbarron: | maybe 2, i didn't time it | [11:35] |
| danielpbarron: | i also see that the merchant no longer sells stuff | [11:36] |
| danielpbarron: | good timing, i had just sold 1 of each: canine, snakeskin, and other unfound rares, and some rare blueprints as well | [11:37] |
| danielpbarron: | (and bought them back of course) | [11:37] |
| danielpbarron: | also, http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt << updated | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | in general you probably want to do as many of the cheapest craft you can until it no longer autolevels you | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you're aiming to maximize levelling, that is. | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron you got MORE shavings ? | [11:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | you made these ? or is this the merchant duping thing | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | i made them | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | i had bought like 0.2 btc worth of flotsam when it was for sale | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | and added to my big shiny rock find | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | i mixed in maybe 500 low quality shavings, some of which i guess were duped | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | but not much | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> in general you probably want to do as many of the cheapest craft you can until it no longer autolevels << idealy i would have waited for this, but seeing as how october I don't know how accessible i will be, i didn't want to hold up the show for everyone else | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | although it's also worth noting that I did not "autolevel" twice | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | each sacrifice only gives a single rank up, and I have come to understand that this is not a waste of exp | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | i thought it's only wasting some if I get 2 ranks from the craft | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | anyway, afk again | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | heh i came running back to remove them from my shop when i realized i should better save the 140 quality shavings for myself | [12:39] |
| danielpbarron: | i think that's how that works? i want to craft either with higher quality stuff or lower quality stuff but not the same quality i produce? | [12:40] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron you around? | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu also, Mircea's Dismal Scribblings on Tinkering and Foxy's Dismal Scribblings on Gathering are now available in game. ima give myself and diana_coman 1 recipe of respectively to celebrate! <- yay, still need a description for foxy's gathering notes? | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | also, are yours still dismal? not even slightly less dismal or something? :))) | [16:09] |
| phf: | jurov: i'll see what i can do | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | lol mircea_popescu @ description of ds-ga-100 mystery | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | how to tell beetle from dung is by far closer to reality :))) | [16:28] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> danielpbarron you around? << ya | [17:32] |
| diana_coman: | ok, will come to the village then | [17:32] |
| jurov: | sha152sum: f0026cbf9b91e632bef2c2fd99143a0ab8665684597b9df09c902d79a2ac96c9aa4f685b538f9ccbf30b8729de3f295bee98f926df5a98fd52fdab2472b0fadc Eulora-V0_1_1-win32.7z | [18:04] |
| jurov: | http://minigame.bz/jurov/Eulora-V0_1_1-win32.7z | [18:04] |
| jurov: | anyone up to quick check whether it works? | [18:04] |
| jurov: | installation of cs-winlibs no longer needed, the dlls are bundled | [18:04] |
| jurov: | put a git repo there, too (details in http://minigame.bz/jurov/ ) | [19:36] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulora Releases by Jurov (at minigame.bz) | [19:36] |
| jurov: | but without apache configuration and enabling of DAV module, it's read only | [19:37] |
| jurov: | dunno if mircea would be amenable to it... currently i "push" by ftp-syncing local repo, it's rather unwieldy | [19:38] |
| phf: | jurov: you can still do push by email, or push to dpaste. git makes patch workflow really straightforward | [19:46] |
| jurov: | well.. depends on chetty, too. so far it was too big overhead for her to use git at all, apparently | [19:47] |
| danielpbarron: | aw yeah, 0.01 worth of solid branch just found | [21:26] |
| danielpbarron: | that's 117 ppb and a bunch of sortage training | [21:27] |
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