#eulora Logs for 30 Jul 2015



July 30th, 2015 by Diana Coman
chetty: server reset in 5 [04:23]
chetty: done [04:32]
mircea_popescu: for the record - buying chetty stick traditions for 10k a pop, any q. [09:33]
diana_coman: hello [10:30]
danielpbarron: down! [10:30]
danielpbarron: heh [10:30]
diana_coman: not sure if it wasn't me as I was messing about again with some changes to the bot [10:33]
chetty: looking at trace now [10:34]
diana_coman: ha, I'd suspect it was me judging by the state before and after, lol [10:35]
chetty: actually I am not sure from this, crash was while updating item views to client [10:37]
diana_coman: thing is: I started crafting some braided threads [10:37]
diana_coman: and the bot grabbed the bundle while it was crafting [10:37]
diana_coman: and it was in my inventory when the server was not responsive [10:37]
diana_coman: now that I got back [10:37]
diana_coman: I actually had a braided thread on the table [10:38]
diana_coman: and no bundle in the inventory [10:38]
chetty: yeah I peeled back previous crashes from too early grrabs a bit, now we got a new one a little further along [10:38]
diana_coman: just in case it has something to do with it [10:38]
diana_coman: ha ha, glad the bot does a good job of finding crashing points at least [10:38]
chetty: the lack of that bundle/end item is in fact what crashed it [10:39]
diana_coman: for now it seems to work surprisingly fine without re-targeting so that should take care of the double-wear down issue otherwise [10:39]
diana_coman: that's good [10:39]
chetty: yea but it still gets a bit lost when you move stuff around while its crafting [10:40]
diana_coman: move stuff around as in getting items and placing them somewhere else? [10:41]
diana_coman: not really sure it's something that one should really be able to do while crafting at the same time, no? [10:41]
diana_coman: the only thing I can think of to avoid that would be that target lock thing [10:42]
diana_coman: but it seems to need more looking into as last time it wasn't really working.... [10:42]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it is a VERY useful debug tool. [10:44]
diana_coman: really glad to hear it :) [10:44]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what closed source houses that are like "no bots because we can't design but would like to pretend we made a game!11" do. [10:45]
mircea_popescu: i guess more of the same lalala hands in ears business. once you start with that... [10:45]
diana_coman: get burried under a pile of shit I suppose and pretend it smells wonderfully, what else could they do? [10:46]
diana_coman: is my understanding correct that the base value of items does not/will not change? [10:47]
mircea_popescu: yes. [10:47]
diana_coman: cool, as I think a public list with that is just about sorely needed by now, lol [10:48]
mircea_popescu: IF, and it is a very big IF, if for bitcoin appreciation reasons i will see myself forced to scale the value of items so the game stays playable, this will be announced early and implemented after giving everyone a change to sell out. [10:48]
diana_coman: oh, that's perfectly ok [10:48]
diana_coman: ugh, so there is supposedly a log class in the util package in the client but then the chat window does all the work itself in its own log method?? [11:12]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [11:12]
chetty: so 5 minutes and server reset, yet another patch to try [11:13]
danielpbarron: ready [11:14]
chetty: it keeps a chat log in your .eulora files [11:14]
diana_coman: wait a bit chetty, please [11:15]
diana_coman: I'm in the middle of a craft, should finish soon [11:15]
chetty: ah ok, I think I can see when it finishes [11:16]
diana_coman: done :) [11:16]
diana_coman: thanks [11:16]
diana_coman: I guess the bot could do with a delayed stop [11:17]
diana_coman: lol [11:17]
chetty: done [11:17]
diana_coman: chetty, help [15:21]
diana_coman: I dropped some branches [15:21]
diana_coman: and they are in space! [15:21]
diana_coman: I basically can't reach them :( [15:21]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:22]
mircea_popescu: eulora launches 1st artificial satellite. [15:22]
diana_coman: yeah, a bag of sb [15:22]
sueastside: And all the science he don't understand, its just his job 5 days a week. [15:22]
diana_coman: but it's 335 sb... [15:22]
sueastside: Chetty the rocketman, rocketman, not the man they think he is at home, oh no, a rocketman, coding out there....alone. [15:24]
diana_coman: http://www.dianacoman.com/available_resources/shot21.jpg [15:26]
diana_coman: have a look... [15:26]
diana_coman: it basically got it into the ground although I just dropped it [15:27]
diana_coman: it doesn't even want to target it nor anything, ugh [15:27]
mircea_popescu: ouch. [15:28]
diana_coman: I managed to target it (text mode) but then it says I am too far away to pick it up :( [15:28]
diana_coman: I really need help with this one, lol [15:28]
mircea_popescu: "don't drop things" help any ? :D [15:29]
diana_coman: oh really now [15:30]
diana_coman: it's supposed to burry them? [15:30]
diana_coman: and at least if it gets them there when one drops them, it should also be able to pick them up again instead of saying that they are too far away when I targeted them [15:31]
mircea_popescu: tru. [15:32]
diana_coman: apparently by "you are too far away to pick up Solid Branch" it means in fact "they are too deep down for you to pick them up" lol [15:33]
mircea_popescu: sit ? [15:34]
diana_coman: the same [15:34]
diana_coman: prolly the only option is to hack the client again to get into the ground myself and pick them up [15:35]
mircea_popescu: got like an hour before they poof i think [15:35]
diana_coman: if not moved from the server back onto the ground [15:35]
diana_coman: is now in space looking for a floating bag of solid branches... [15:42]
diana_coman: hooooraaaay [15:46]
mircea_popescu: :) [15:47]
mircea_popescu: wd. [15:47]
diana_coman: yeah, fishing sb in space for fun and profit :)))) [15:48]
jurov: happened to me too. but nothing so valuable [15:53]
diana_coman: it did happen before, but not THIS bad [15:53]
diana_coman: slowly rising from the sands... [15:57]
diana_coman: so anyway on this occasion mod6 let me know if you need more/other screenshots from up high [16:18]
mod6: plz. if you can get any of the entire island that'd be great. and/or any similar shots like before without the chat window in there -- if you can somehow take a screenshot with a different, outside tool than say /screenshot [16:21]
jurov: mod6 how do you map coordinates to screenshot? [16:30]
mod6: its not an exact science or anything. [16:33]
mod6: i just try to find some visual reference points in game and then plot them where they are on the map. most common items are scattared in a "general" area, so those you'll see in bunches. for the ones that are in very spcific places I use an asterisk to make a "footnote" of sorts that contains the actual coords. [16:34]
mod6: I don't have a better way to do this. Maybe someone else can/does? [16:34]
diana_coman: hmmm [16:36]
diana_coman: yes, I can [16:36]
diana_coman: I can take an external screenshot I meant [16:37]
diana_coman: for one thing [16:37]
diana_coman: lol [16:37]
diana_coman: for the other I am still thinking of ways to make the client spit out the map maybe [16:37]
diana_coman: basically by spiting out the result of /pos [16:37]
diana_coman: as you move about [16:37]
diana_coman: and then get that and make the map with something external [16:38]
diana_coman: but tbh I didn't have time to look into this properly [16:38]
jurov: but client should have the map in memory [16:38]
diana_coman: thing with an image of the entire island is that it will be too smal I think [16:38]
diana_coman: uhm, it doesn't jurov [16:38]
diana_coman: it has sectors [16:38]
diana_coman: only those of interest [16:38]
diana_coman: as far as I could tell [16:38]
diana_coman: I guess you could make it out of sectors maybe [16:39]
diana_coman: or try to request from server more if possible, not sure [16:39]
jurov: diana_coman i want to return to you the coppers [16:39]
diana_coman: it's worth investigating that for sure though [16:39]
diana_coman: oh, ok [16:39]
diana_coman: wow, not it crashed the server [17:32]
mircea_popescu: omfg don't tell me he crashed it [17:32]
diana_coman: but tbh before this I had this trouble now too as I kept trying to build a tiny claim and the bit of nothing wouldn'y change [17:32]
diana_coman: yeah [17:32]
diana_coman: lol [17:32]
diana_coman: he did [17:32]
mircea_popescu: my last recipe is gone ? what the shit already. [17:32]
diana_coman: uhm, I hope not [17:33]
diana_coman: otherwise I guess the next award for some work will have to be chetty stick traditions, lol [17:33]
mircea_popescu: iirc daniel has a few, grenadine made 9 he got 4 [17:33]
diana_coman: oh, good then [17:33]
mircea_popescu: back up [17:34]
mircea_popescu: how he managed to crash it without clicking or anything is anyone's guess. [17:34]
jurov: lol was it me? [17:34]
diana_coman: maybe it wasn't jurov really [17:34]
diana_coman: there is the bundle in the toolkit [17:35]
diana_coman: jurov are you getting in before it dissappears? [17:35]
jurov: nothing disappears [17:35]
mircea_popescu: ah ok then [17:35]
jurov: it jsut keeps sitting in the toolkit and nothing happens [17:36]
diana_coman: it gets swept away [17:36]
diana_coman: and sometimes things DO vanish [17:36]
mircea_popescu: yeah pick up the toolkit once [17:36]
diana_coman: I know I lost quite a few mushrooms that way [17:36]
diana_coman: :p [17:36]
diana_coman: and 1 bandar toolkit .... [17:36]
jurov: oh you meant to relogin [17:37]
diana_coman: yeah, lol [17:37]
mircea_popescu: jurov did it werk eventually ? [17:51]
jurov: yes but it said toolkit is worn [17:52]
mircea_popescu: what does this mean ? [17:52]
jurov: retrying with blessed one [17:52]
mircea_popescu: oh [17:52]
mircea_popescu: well duh of course you couldn't complete it with a worn toolkit eh [17:52]
jurov: but it waits till the end... [17:53]
diana_coman: how many pss do you need/will you buy, mircea_popescu? [17:53]
mircea_popescu: 50 ? 100 ? [17:53]
mircea_popescu: basically i wanna make a bunch of bp research packages. [17:53]
mircea_popescu: also, need TPT, 35, 70 [17:53]
diana_coman: oh, ok [17:53]
diana_coman: is tpt also rare? [17:53]
diana_coman: oh, I think it is, yeah [17:53]
mircea_popescu: nah, tons of people found em [17:53]
mircea_popescu: its like moss [17:54]
diana_coman: as in what qual I get, lol [17:54]
diana_coman: so yes, it is [17:54]
mircea_popescu: aha yea [17:54]
diana_coman: basically that's what I am best at atm so well [17:54]
diana_coman: interesting what I get in the console: <src/client/psclientdr.cpp:223 HandleDeadReckon SEVERE>Thu Jul 30 22:55:02 2015, Got DR message for unknown entity EID:10842. [17:55]
diana_coman: oh, and mircea_popescu do you sell any of that flotsam? [17:57]
jurov: still no cigar :( [17:58]
diana_coman: got stopped again??? [17:59]
jurov: not stopped [18:00]
jurov: no nothing [18:00]
diana_coman: uhm [18:00]
diana_coman: weird [18:00]
diana_coman: it didn't say anything [18:00]
diana_coman: but the bar finished and nothing? [18:00]
jurov: moved it iside toolkit, it said "starting" , but without progressbar, waiting... [18:00]
diana_coman: that's what I got a bit earlier right before the server crash [18:00]
diana_coman: .... [18:00]
jurov: yes, the bar finished and nothing happened [18:00]
diana_coman: ugh, I had that only long-long time ago [18:01]
diana_coman: never really got why [18:01]
jurov: nothing new for me either, i just was not doing so big craft jobs and hoped it will eventually get resolved [18:02]
jurov: i knew chetty would clamor for details and there are no detaisl to be had at all [18:02]
chetty: srry guys I am still on resolving bots causing crashes, I'll look into this at some point [18:24]
diana_coman: mod6 this is about the best I could get to have all the island fitting in : http://www.dianacoman.com/available_resources/shot24.jpg [18:45]
diana_coman: not sure if it's not too small though, but at least it's all in there [18:45]
diana_coman: btw, the black thing in the very middle is....me [18:45]
diana_coman: lol [18:45]
danielpbarron: i just picked up a bandar toolkit someone left in town [18:55]
jurov: lol how did you manage that high? it was resetting my position long before that [18:55]
danielpbarron: 266k quality on it for the record [18:56]
diana_coman: uhm, did you check it truly was? [18:56]
diana_coman: jurov, is that your toolkit? [18:56]
jurov: yes mine :( [18:56]
jurov: diana_coman: it said so [18:56]
jurov: and it stopped moving [18:56]
diana_coman: ah, well [18:56]
diana_coman: I am NOT moving [18:57]
diana_coman: no way [18:57]
diana_coman: lol [18:57]
diana_coman: I am teleporting [18:57]
diana_coman: and as long as I don't move, it's fine [18:57]
jurov: nice loophole [18:58]
diana_coman: I hadn't even still on, but well, the solid branch thing.... [18:59]
diana_coman: it saved the day in the end [18:59]
diana_coman: well, I think the server basically doesn't really know about it [19:00]
diana_coman: unless it monitors requests for the map or something [19:00]
diana_coman: as my "position" as far as the server is concerned [19:00]
diana_coman: is still the one before the teleport [19:00]
diana_coman: that's the thing with the teleport: unless you do something that updates your position, your actions will happen at the old one [19:01]
diana_coman: it's quite interesting really: that's a way of haunting places I guess :))) [19:01]
jurov: i see [19:02]

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